God Knows I Won't Defend T.O., but...

[Quarterback Coach]

where is all the buzz about Wayne cutting off that route? Or why he and Peyton were not on the same page like Roy 11?

Funny how things go in the media when there ain't a star on the side of your head...

Blame Reggie for that pick, not Manning.

[CowboyWay]

I have to agree in the blame for Reggie. I really thought he stopped short on that route. However, comparing the chemistry between Reggie and Payton vs Roy and Romo are ludicrious. I don't even know where to begin to discredit it.

[Romo 2 Austin]

when i get the chance to blame a manning for something i take it.

[Quarterback Coach]

I have to agree in the blame for Reggie. I really thought he stopped short on that route. However, comparing the chemistry between Reggie and Payton vs Roy and Romo are ludicrious. I don't even know where to begin to discredit it.

I'm just pointing out hypocrisy...

[jcollins28]

They were saying just that this morning on the Dan Patrick show. Can't remember who he had on but they were saying that Wayne quite on the route.

[dadymat]

because it dont happen every game and he didnt blame it on anyone but himself and Manning blames himself as well.....

[Bungarian]

because it dont happen every game and he didnt blame it on anyone but himself and Manning blames himself as well.....

Can you provide proof? I heard in the news conference both said the New Orleans player just made a great play.

[RS12]

Reggie Wayne also dropped a catchable ball at the goal line, end of game. Peyton's receivers did him no favors yesterday.

[CowboyWay]

I'm just pointing out hypocrisy...

But its not hypocrisy. You could argue that Manning and Wayne have the best QB/WR chemistry in the league. One of them screwed up (whoever you blame, Manning or Wayne). Regardless, it happens.

Comparing the RW and TR situation is completely different. They have zero chemistry. They have zero skins on the wall. When RW does 1/4 of what Wayne does on a football field, come back and talk about hypocrisy. But until then, there simply is no comparison.

[CowboyWay]

Reggie Wayne also dropped a catchable ball at the goal line, end of game. Peyton's receivers did him no favors yesterday.

This was a good observation. None of those receivers stepped up yesterday. Normally they are making plays all over the field, but all of them looked completely average yesterday.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

T.O. begs for it w/ his overly ctitical of teammates attitude. C'mon now.

But for the record

TO > Marvin Harrison

on and off the field

[mldardy]

This was a good observation. None of those receivers stepped up yesterday. Normally they are making plays all over the field, but all of them looked completely average yesterday.
Give me a break with this 'none of those receivers stepped up nonsense'. How bout some blame for Manning. He threw a terrible pass early in that drive that he was intercepted on. That pass should have been intercepted by Jenkins. The only misstep's I saw from the receivers was Garcon's drop and Wayne's route on the INT and I am not going to fully blame that on him. Manning made some poor decisions out there. He tried to go for it all on that 3rd and 11 and missed the receiver which resulted in Stover having to kick that 51 yarder. When instead Manning should have tried to get 5-10 yards to get closer for a FG or go for it on 4th down. He also missed Collie on the INT when he was cutting across the middle trying to force it to Wayne.

[Rampage]

o look Peyton Manning getting another pass for being an average qb in the postseason....

[Future]

I haven't heard Wayne's comments, but I would have to assume that he realized the corner had jumped the route, and probably new that it was an easy 6 if Peyton just throws it up.

[Quarterback Coach]

But its not hypocrisy. You could argue that Manning and Wayne have the best QB/WR chemistry in the league. One of them screwed up (whoever you blame, Manning or Wayne). Regardless, it happens.

Comparing the RW and TR situation is completely different. They have zero chemistry. They have zero skins on the wall. When RW does 1/4 of what Wayne does on a football field, come back and talk about hypocrisy. But until then, there simply is no comparison.

We can get caught up in symantics, but it is hypocrisy. It is what it is. Remember the first year that T.O. was in town, there was no "issue" with breaking off routes. It all came out/happened as the team slid in year two.

Granted Manning and Wayne are solid, maybe the best. But my point is that if we are going to pile on when things go bad (i.e the above example), then we must pile on when things go bad (i.e Super Bowl)...Just stay consistent.

That's it...if this was Romo it would be a front page headline and you know it.

[CowboyWay]

Give me a break with this 'none of those receivers stepped up nonsense'. How bout some blame for Manning. He threw a terrible pass early in that drive that he was intercepted on. That pass should have been intercepted by Jenkins. The only misstep's I saw from the receivers was Garcon's drop and Wayne's route on the INT and I am not going to fully blame that on him. Manning made some poor decisions out there. He tried to go for it all on that 3rd and 11 and missed the receiver which resulted in Stover having to kick that 51 yarder. When instead Manning should have tried to get 5-10 yards to get closer for a FG or go for it on 4th down. He also missed Collie on the INT when he was cutting across the middle trying to force it to Wayne.

Newsflash. QB's will throw bad passes every now and then. It doesn't mean he's not a great QB. With MAYBE one or two exceptions, there isn't a team in the league that isn't better if they had him as QB.

[Quarterback Coach]

Give me a break with this 'none of those receivers stepped up nonsense'. How bout some blame for Manning. He threw a terrible pass early in that drive that he was intercepted on. That pass should have been intercepted by Jenkins. The only misstep's I saw from the receivers was Garcon's drop and Wayne's route on the INT and I am not going to fully blame that on him. Manning made some poor decisions out there. He tried to go for it all on that 3rd and 11 and missed the receiver which resulted in Stover having to kick that 51 yarder. When instead Manning should have tried to get 5-10 yards to get closer for a FG or go for it on 4th down. He also missed Collie on the INT when he was cutting across the middle trying to force it to Wayne.

Trust me...I'm a Florida grad. No one is harder on Manning than we were. Garcon, Collie, Wayne...none of them showed up when he needed them.

[dadymat]

Can you provide proof? I heard in the news conference both said the New Orleans player just made a great play.

i shouldnt have wrote that they blamed themselves ..i was more meaning to point out that they didnt blame each other

[mldardy]

Newsflash. QB's will throw bad passes every now and then. It doesn't mean he's not a great QB. With MAYBE one or two exceptions, there isn't a team in the league that isn't better if they had him as QB.
Uh where did I say he's not a great QB and where did I will say QB's don't throw bad passes. I think you need to start over and read what is going on in this thread.

[mldardy]

Trust me...I'm a Florida grad. No one is harder on Manning than we were. Garcon, Collie, Wayne...none of them showed up when he needed them.
I disagree I think they did but Wayne was covered pretty good. Garcon caught the only TD, Collie made catches that he could get to. I mean Manning threw for over 300 yards so his receivers did a lot of things right including Addai and Clark as well. Like I said I don't recall the receivers doing much wrong yesterday except for Garcon's drop and maybe Wayne on that INT.

[ethiostar]

where is all the buzz about Wayne cutting off that route? Or why he and Peyton were not on the same page like Roy 11?

Funny how things go in the media when there ain't a star on the side of your head...

Blame Reggie for that pick, not Manning.

I haven't watched much coverage since the game last night but every time I turned the tv or radio on and put it on sport channels, everyone was talking about how Raggie was at fault.

So I'm not sure what your talking about.

[Quarterback Coach]

I haven't watched much coverage since the game last night but every time I turned the tv or radio on and put it on sport channels, everyone was talking about how Raggie was at fault.

So I'm not sure what your talking about.

I haven't seen that. If they are...then good. They are right.

[Bob Sacamano]

I haven't watched much coverage since the game last night but every time I turned the tv or radio on and put it on sport channels, everyone was talking about how Raggie was at fault.

So I'm not sure what your talking about.
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[ethiostar]

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What did i miss?

Outside of misspelling Reggie's name and used your instead of you're.

[Bob Sacamano]

What did i miss?

Outside of misspelling Reggie's name and used your instead of you're.

you mad?:p:

[ethiostar]

you mad?:p:

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[rathalarge]

Wayne injured an ankle @ Fridays practice i believe, so he may have been slighty bothered by this during the game. Don't know if this was mentioned in this thread? If so, sorry!

[Muhast]

wat about Wayne getting alligator arms by the end zone b/c he saw a Saints player coming?

[Romo 2 Austin]

Newsflash. QB's will throw bad passes every now and then. It doesn't mean he's not a great QB. With MAYBE one or two exceptions, there isn't a team in the league that isn't better if they had him as QB.

Were one of the exceptions.

[casmith07]

Nope. You're Peyton Manning, with a chance to tie with plenty of time left. You're supposed to be the best ever and you telegraph a throw to the DB.

That INT was on Peyton Manning. THAT of all throws is the one pick you cannot have.

[DallasKnight]

Wayne alligator armed that pass. He knew he was about to get lit up, and knocked out and went limp.

[SharutoX]

I think it was just a great play by porter, he looked like he knew it was coming all along whenever wayne tried to do his stutter step or juke or whatever it was. Porter reacted so fast that Wayne didn't even have a chance to trip or tackle him