View Full Version : S Earl Thomas posted 21 reps of 225 pounds on the Combine bench press Monday
cowboyjoe
03-01-2010, 03:21 PM
Earl Thomas-DB- Player Mar. 1 - 3:27 pm et
Texas S Earl Thomas posted 21 reps of 225 pounds on the Combine bench press Monday.
Other totals of note: Boise State CB Kyle Wilson (25), Michigan CB Donovan Warren (12), USC S Taylor Mays (24) and Florida State S Myron Rolle (21). Amid question marks about his strength and size, Thomas showed up to Indianapolis much bigger than expected and outdid both Eric Berry and Joe Haden on the bench. Thomas is also likely to tear up the forty on Tuesday.
Source: Shawn Zobel on Twitter
Related: Myron Rolle, Donovan Warren, Taylor Mays, Kyle Wilson
cowboyjoe
03-01-2010, 03:22 PM
Joe Haden-DB- Player Mar. 1 - 2:37 pm et
Florida CB Joe Haden had 18 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press at the Scouting Combine Monday.
Tennessee S Eric Berry, competing with Haden and possibly Texas S Earl Thomas to be the first defensive back off the board, had 19 reps of 225. Haden's bench press was impressive, but his forty time is more crucial. The DBs run on Tuesday, and there is speculation that Haden may not best 4.5.
Source: Shawn Zobel on Twitter
Related: Eric Berry
AustnIsMySaviour
03-01-2010, 03:37 PM
wilson had more then Mays? LOL thats humiliating man.
TheCount
03-01-2010, 03:40 PM
wilson had more then Mays? LOL thats humiliating man.
Not really, Mays is 5 inches taller, bet his arms are quite a bit longer.
AustnIsMySaviour
03-01-2010, 03:56 PM
Not really, Mays is 5 inches taller, bet his arms are quite a bit longer.
please, he has 40 pounds on Wilson and hes been dubbed the workout warrior by many. 24 reps is brutal for him. You can't say that your not surprised.
rkell87
03-01-2010, 04:05 PM
please, he has 40 pounds on Wilson and hes been dubbed the workout warrior by many. 24 reps is brutal for him. You can't say that your not surprised.
:fact:
dmoore
03-01-2010, 04:10 PM
please, he has 40 pounds on Wilson and hes been dubbed the workout warrior by many. 24 reps is brutal for him. You can't say that your not surprised.
24 doesn't sound too bad. I'm interested in seeing what he runs. I'm not going to doubt his strength. I think it's just a good performance by Wilson, who's one of my favorite CBs in this draft.
I'd take Berry and Haden over Thomas still.
please, he has 40 pounds on Wilson and hes been dubbed the workout warrior by many. 24 reps is brutal for him. You can't say that your not surprised.
Mike Iupati had just 27 reps and I don't think anyone is questioning his strength. And he has around 100lbs on Mays.
The fact is both of them have some of the longer arm lengths at their positions.
Mays arm length 34 inches (longest)
Iupati 34 3/4 (longest for OG)
Fact is the bench favors players with shorter arms because they don't have to push the bar as far.
VACowboy
03-01-2010, 04:15 PM
I like Wilson at #27 more and more.
8FOR!3
03-01-2010, 04:19 PM
Techinically seeing how many times you can rep 225 isn't even muscle strength for these guys, it's muscle endurance. It is pretty funny though to look at, Stephen McGee having the same amount of reps last year as Taylor Mays.
AustnIsMySaviour
03-01-2010, 04:22 PM
Mike Iupati had just 27 reps and I don't think anyone is questioning his strength. And he has around 100lbs on Mays.
The fact is both of them have some of the longer arm lengths at their positions.
Mays arm length 34 inches (longest)
Iupati 34 3/4 (3rd longest)
Fact is the bench favors players with shorter arms because they don't have to push the bar as far.
I could say the same thing.. mccluster posted 20 reps. So are you telling me its normal for Mays, the man that everyone is boosting about in terms of strength, workout warrior etc to have 24 reps at 230 pounds which is only 4 more then a 170 pound man?
RamziD
03-01-2010, 04:42 PM
24 doesn't sound too bad. I'm interested in seeing what he runs. I'm not going to doubt his strength. I think it's just a good performance by Wilson, who's one of my favorite CBs in this draft.
I'd take Berry and Haden over Thomas still.
I don't think anyone will argue with you on that one. Both those guys are Top 10 locks.
dmoore
03-01-2010, 04:56 PM
I could say the same thing.. mccluster posted 20 reps. So are you telling me its normal for Mays, the man that everyone is boosting about in terms of strength, workout warrior etc to have 24 reps at 230 pounds which is only 4 more then a 170 pound man?
What are you arguing? Yes, it's normal for Mays to put up 24 reps. He certainly didn't hurt everyone's opinion of him. Bench press isn't the sole indicator of strength.
Also, you haven't addressed the arm length comment. Long arms do hurt you on the bench press. I've lifted for a long time and I can bench more than a lot of guys that I know are stronger than me because I have short arms that were made for the bench.
I could say the same thing.. mccluster posted 20 reps. So are you telling me its normal for Mays, the man that everyone is boosting about in terms of strength, workout warrior etc to have 24 reps at 230 pounds which is only 4 more then a 170 pound man?
Please show me someone claiming Mays is one of the strongest players in college football. Just one please. Shouldn't be hard because "everyone" is "boasting about his strength".
Again, 330lb Iupati had only a few reps more than Mays despite being 100lbs more than him. Are you questioning his strength too?
For comparison's sake, Roy Willy who most people would agree was a pretty stong S coming out of college, benched 225 just 13 times. Mays putting up 24 reps with 36 (edit 34) inch long arms is not "brutal" period. Saying so is dumb.
And I am not a fan of Mays at all. I wouldn't draft him. He seems like Roy Willy 2.0.
What are you arguing? Yes, it's normal for Mays to put up 24 reps. He certainly didn't hurt everyone's opinion of him. Bench press isn't the sole indicator of strength.
Also, you haven't addressed the arm length comment. Long arms do hurt you on the bench press. I've lifted for a long time and I can bench more than a lot of guys that I know are stronger than me because I have short arms that were made for the bench.
Agree 100 percent with this.
Roy Willy had an extremely strong lower body and it's the reason why when he hit someone, he lowered the boom on their ***.
rkell87
03-01-2010, 05:17 PM
Mike Iupati had just 27 reps and I don't think anyone is questioning his strength. And he has around 100lbs on Mays.
The fact is both of them have some of the longer arm lengths at their positions.
Mays arm length 34 inches (longest)
Iupati 34 3/4 (longest for OG)
Fact is the bench favors players with shorter arms because they don't have to push the bar as far.
Please show me someone claiming Mays is one of the strongest players in college football. Just one please. Shouldn't be hard because "everyone" is "boasting about his strength".
Again, 330lb Iupati had only a few reps more than Mays despite being 100lbs more than him. Are you questioning his strength too?
For comparison's sake, Roy Willy who most people would agree was a pretty stong S coming out of college, benched 225 just 13 times. Mays putting up 24 reps with 36 inch long arms is not "brutal" period. Saying so is dumb.
And I am not a fan of Mays at all. I wouldn't draft him. He seems like Roy Willy 2.0.
......
BigWillie
03-01-2010, 05:22 PM
please, he has 40 pounds on Wilson and hes been dubbed the workout warrior by many. 24 reps is brutal for him. You can't say that your not surprised.
Dexter McCluster - 172lbs - 20 reps
LeGarrette Blount - 241lbs - 19 reps
Chris Brown - 210lbs - 17 reps
Anthony Dixon - 233lbs - 15 reps
Ryan Matthews - 218lbs - 19 reps
James Starks - 218lbs - 15 reps
Only 3 WR's were able to manage 20 reps. None were able to get more than 20 reps. And only 3 of these WR's weighed less than 186lbs.
As someone else stated, bench is more about muscle endurance more than raw strength.
......
Yeah, my mistake. 34 is the number, tops for both S's and CB's.
Chris in Arizona
03-01-2010, 05:30 PM
I know it looks like I'm defending my boy.. but Mays knocking out 24 reps and Wilson knocking out 25 isn't a negative on Mays. It is incredibly positive on Wilson though.
For those who don't understand arm length's effect on this particular test, you simply aren't paying attention. If you watch the combine or even the combine highlights, the analysts talk about it the whole time.
Also impressive was Russell Okung, who knocked out 38 reps with very long arms. The question marks on him were his strength and his weight and he put an end to those with that performance.
AustnIsMySaviour
03-01-2010, 06:07 PM
Please show me someone claiming Mays is one of the strongest players in college football. Just one please. Shouldn't be hard because "everyone" is "boasting about his strength".
Again, 330lb Iupati had only a few reps more than Mays despite being 100lbs more than him. Are you questioning his strength too?
For comparison's sake, Roy Willy who most people would agree was a pretty stong S coming out of college, benched 225 just 13 times. Mays putting up 24 reps with 36 (edit 34) inch long arms is not "brutal" period. Saying so is dumb.
And I am not a fan of Mays at all. I wouldn't draft him. He seems like Roy Willy 2.0.
why the **** would I find a link that says that? where did I say he's the strongest player in college football? *** are you talking about. My point is everyone is putting this guy on a pedestal, in terms of his workouts, physique. In case you didn't know there a huge difference between people boasting about his strength and being the strongest player in college football. Quote me where I said that please. Mccluster has 31 inch arms, so its not the greatest difference in the world btw.
casmith07
03-01-2010, 06:09 PM
I'm not sure when I've ever seen a player bench press another guy during a game.
why the **** would I find a link that says that? where did I say he's the strongest player in college football? *** are you talking about. My point is everyone is putting this guy on a pedestal, in terms of his workouts, physique. In case you didn't know there a huge difference between people boasting about his strength and being the strongest player in college football. Quote me where I said that please. Mccluster has 31 inch arms, so its not the greatest difference in the world btw.
You stated EVERYBODY was BOOSTING( you meant boasting) about his strength. Post some links.
And 31 inch arm length is not that big of a difference from 34 inches?
:laugh2: You're a clown and I'm done with you.
You're flat out wrong and I'm not the only one who has told you this in this thread. Read more and stop posting and you might learn something.
rkell87
03-01-2010, 06:27 PM
I'm not sure when I've ever seen a player bench press another guy during a game.
its always what the guy that ends up under bigg tries to do when bigg pulls.
Muhast
03-01-2010, 06:34 PM
How many weeks until he fails a drug test for performance enhancing drugs?
:) lol I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to have him, although I think Berry is better, we wouldn't have a shot at him. Thomas may drop, but probably not.
AustnIsMySaviour
03-01-2010, 06:37 PM
You stated EVERYBODY was BOOSTING( you meant boasting) about his strength. Post some links.
And 31 inch arm length is not that big of a difference from 34 inches?
:laugh2: You're a clown and I'm done with you.
You're flat out wrong and I'm not the only one who has told you this in this thread. Read more and stop posting and you might learn something.
LOL post some links? Ok buddy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=3745225
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2008528790_mays17.html
there you go, you ****ing plug. Bite your tongue buddy. If im not mistaken both those articles claim hes the ' strongest player your going to find'. Why don't you read some scouting reports you duster. Why, don't YOU read some more, and YOU might learn something, what a joke. You asked for links, there are links, so **** and take it in, cause your wrong.
Muhast
03-01-2010, 06:40 PM
LOL post some links? Ok buddy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=3745225
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2008528790_mays17.html
there you go, you ****ing plug. Bite your tongue buddy. If im not mistaken both those articles claim hes the ' strongest player your going to find'. Why don't you read some scouting reports you duster. Why, don't YOU read some more, and YOU might learn something, what a joke. You asked for links, there are links, so **** and take it in, cause your wrong.
You need to chill out, seriously. Or your going to get yourself put on time out (Banned)
rkell87
03-01-2010, 06:44 PM
LOL post some links? Ok buddy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=3745225
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2008528790_mays17.html
there you go, you ****ing plug. Bite your tongue buddy. If im not mistaken both those articles claim hes the ' strongest player your going to find'. Why don't you read some scouting reports you duster. Why, don't YOU read some more, and YOU might learn something, what a joke. You asked for links, there are links, so **** and take it in, cause your wrong.
lol your pissy today. you might need these.
http://yoshi2me.com/sexual-health/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/tampons.jpg
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AustnIsMySaviour
03-01-2010, 06:47 PM
lol your pissy today. you might need these.
http://yoshi2me.com/sexual-health/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/tampons.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pCZ1TCwBxHU/SeObnRHis7I/AAAAAAAAADw/vI4yv8YLPAs/s320/midol.jpg
when you don't wanna use your fingers, that first pic is pretty useful.
rkell87
03-01-2010, 06:53 PM
when you don't wanna use your fingers, that first pic is pretty useful.
http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/guides_ax/assets/widget_c9C8HLAP9hYjKaUPQ5SPKc.jpg
silverbear
03-01-2010, 06:56 PM
LOL post some links? Ok buddy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=3745225
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2008528790_mays17.html
there you go, you ****ing plug. Bite your tongue buddy. If im not mistaken both those articles claim hes the ' strongest player your going to find'. Why don't you read some scouting reports you duster. Why, don't YOU read some more, and YOU might learn something, what a joke. You asked for links, there are links, so **** and take it in, cause your wrong.
I just read a couple of your posts to this thread, and decided I'd go check out your profile... I did so because I thought, by your "debating" style, that you might be about 16... imagine my surprise when I found out you're 38, and a freakin' lawyer...
Most lawyers I know, know the difference between "your", and "you're", and most can phrase an argument without having to rely on the cuss filter bleeping out the profanity...
Next, permit me to observe that the two links you found, both actually reference the SAME quote... and both articles are over a year old... and both come from his head coach, who's obviously trying to pump up his player in the media...
So I don't know what you think you proved here, other than ONE source, who has an agenda, made a claim about how strong he is (and if I read this thread correctly, he DID put up the second best bench numbers among all the DBs, one less than Kyle Wilson)...
Just to be clear, I'm no Mays fan, and don't want him on the Cowboys... I'm just pointing out that you need to grow up, that you get all bent out of shape every time somebody DARES to disagree with you... I'm also pointing out that by DB standards, Mays is pretty strong...
I ask you, is it really necessary to be a vulgar jerk when you engage in debate?? Sarcasm I can appreciate, but the earlier poster is right, you might be in serious need of a temp ban...
You must be a VERY bad lawyer...
Chris in Arizona
03-01-2010, 07:04 PM
...... You must be a VERY bad lawyer...
Oooohhhhh, he's gonna sue you......
INTERNET TOUGH GUYS UNITE!
I love the virtual chest puffing I have been seeing on this board lately.
AustnIsMySaviour
03-01-2010, 07:08 PM
I just read a couple of your posts to this thread, and decided I'd go check out your profile... I did so because I thought, by your "debating" style, that you might be about 16... imagine my surprise when I found out you're 38, and a freakin' lawyer...
Most lawyers I know, know the difference between "your", and "you're", and most can phrase an argument without having to rely on the cuss filter bleeping out the profanity...
Next, permit me to observe that the two links you found, both actually reference the SAME quote... and both articles are over a year old... and both come from his head coach, who's obviously trying to pump up his player in the media...
So I don't know what you think you proved here, other than ONE source, who has an agenda, made a claim about how strong he is (and if I read this thread correctly, he DID put up the second best bench numbers among all the DBs, one less than Kyle Wilson)...
Just to be clear, I'm no Mays fan, and don't want him on the Cowboys... I'm just pointing out that you need to grow up, that you get all bent out of shape every time somebody DARES to disagree with you... I'm also pointing out that by DB standards, Mays is pretty strong...
I ask you, is it really necessary to be a vulgar jerk when you engage in debate?? Sarcasm I can appreciate, but the earlier poster is right, you might be in serious need of a temp ban...
You must be a VERY bad lawyer...
OMG thanks for the story gramps, I don't even know where to begin, so i'm not even going to start. Read the article carefully and theres 2 different quotes btw lmao. How long did it take you to right that? Thanks for taking so much time to criticize me, it means a lot. especially coming from a 57 year old grandpa. When I'm 57 I hope I have the time and energy to be posting on internet forums, ALL POWER TO YOU!!!!
casmith07
03-01-2010, 07:12 PM
Oooohhhhh, he's gonna sue you......
INTERNET TOUGH GUYS UNITE!
I love the virtual chest puffing I have been seeing on this board lately.
www.internet-thugz.com :D
TheCount
03-01-2010, 08:02 PM
please, he has 40 pounds on Wilson and hes been dubbed the workout warrior by many. 24 reps is brutal for him. You can't say that your not surprised.
I don't think you know much about lifting weights (or physics for that matter) if you think 24 is brutal for Mays.
Muhast
03-01-2010, 09:16 PM
OMG thanks for the story gramps, I don't even know where to begin, so i'm not even going to start. Read the article carefully and theres 2 different quotes btw lmao. How long did it take you to right that? Thanks for taking so much time to criticize me, it means a lot. especially coming from a 57 year old grandpa. When I'm 57 I hope I have the time and energy to be posting on internet forums, ALL POWER TO YOU!!!!
Write*.
This guy is not 38. He writes like he's alot younger. Either that or he's a little slow. Seriously who picks a fight with SilverBear? That's forum suicide. Save the time and change your username now kid.
I swear reading Austn's retorts reminds me so much of Masteer Cheef from Arby N The Chief (youtube).
There is no way he's 38. None.
Chris in Arizona
03-01-2010, 10:11 PM
so dude is a lawyer and a scout for SMU?
Sweet.
silverbear
03-01-2010, 10:33 PM
OMG thanks for the story gramps, I don't even know where to begin, so i'm not even going to start.
And yet, you go and do exactly that... LOL...
Read the article carefully and theres 2 different quotes btw lmao.
Quote 1, from an article dated 12/4/08:
"He's the biggest, strongest, fastest guy that you're going to find," Carroll said."His numbers are enormous, but what makes him who he is, he's really a diligent competitor."
Quote 2, from an article dated 12/17/08 (13 days later):
Carroll said. "He's the biggest, strongest, fastest guy that you're going to find. His numbers are enormous. That's nice to have that. But what makes him who he is, he's really a diligent competitor"...
Same source, same EXACT quote... I sure hope you do better research when preparing for trial... :D
How long did it take you to right that?
Didn't take me long to WRITE it at all, counselor... and how exactly did you become a lawyer, when you apparently couldn't even pass high school English??
When I'm 57 I hope I have the time and energy to be posting on internet forums,
Maybe by then, SMU will have a semi-decent football program... it would help if they found some better "part-time scouts"... at least one such current scout seems to be profoundly clueless, and inordinately belligerent when somebody disagrees with him...
SLATEmosphere
03-01-2010, 10:34 PM
OMG thanks for the story gramps, I don't even know where to begin, so i'm not even going to start. Read the article carefully and theres 2 different quotes btw lmao. How long did it take you to right that? Thanks for taking so much time to criticize me, it means a lot. especially coming from a 57 year old grandpa. When I'm 57 I hope I have the time and energy to be posting on internet forums, ALL POWER TO YOU!!!!
Bro, you're annoying and there's no way your a lawyer with your childish writing style. Go take your **** somewhere else.
silverbear
03-01-2010, 10:36 PM
so dude is a lawyer and a scout for SMU?
Sweet.
Just another internet tough guy, lying about who he is to make himself seem important...
It's pretty pathetic, really... I know I laughed when I read his profile, saying to myself "yeah, RIIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHTTTTT"...
silverbear
03-01-2010, 10:37 PM
This guy is not 38. He writes like he's alot younger. Either that or he's a little slow. Seriously who picks a fight with SilverBear?
Well, actually, I picked this fight... :D
silverbear
03-01-2010, 10:39 PM
Oooohhhhh, he's gonna sue you......
For what, definition of character??
JustDezIt
03-01-2010, 10:48 PM
You guys are missing the point. Our KICKER is stronger then all of them except Kyle, who he tied.
And there is no way that dudes a lawyer. For a while i thought it might be an alter ego of R2A.
Thanks for the laugh SilverBear, it's always a pleasure watching you lay into trolls or in this case a youngin. :)
And to Austn, I warned you that this was coming. Do yourself a favor and find another forum to pollute.
silverbear
03-01-2010, 10:56 PM
Thanks for the laugh SilverBear, it's always a pleasure watching you lay into trolls or in this case a youngin. :)
I live to entertain, KD...
And to Austn, I warned you that this was coming. Do yourself a favor and find another forum to pollute.
He shouldn't be slacking off on his part time job as an SMU scout, anyway...
AustnIsMySaviour
03-01-2010, 10:59 PM
Sorry guys,
it's me Brian, Aka romo2austin. I just felt like that people weren't taking me seriously, so I made a account for people to make me more believable. Everyone just thought that because I was 16 I didn't no anything, so I just wanted to make an account for people to take me seriously. I apologize if I offended anyone, but I ask that this account be removed. Brian.
He shouldn't be slacking off on his part time job as an SMU scout, anyway.
Gold. :bow:
:draw: :scram:
That would be The Bear and Austn for anyone who didn't read the entire thread.
Sorry guys,
it's me Brian, Aka romo2austin. I just felt like that people weren't taking me seriously, so I made a account for people to make me more believable. Everyone just thought that because I was 16 I didn't no anything, so I just wanted to make an account for people to take me seriously. I apologize if I offended anyone, but I ask that this account be removed. Brian.
Ban this man!
Well I don't care if Mods do this or not but at least the kid said sorry.
Austn= Glover97 at the RanchReport. Don't worry if you don't get that.
JustDezIt
03-01-2010, 11:14 PM
Sorry guys,
it's me Brian, Aka romo2austin. I just felt like that people weren't taking me seriously, so I made a account for people to make me more believable. Everyone just thought that because I was 16 I didn't no anything, so I just wanted to make an account for people to take me seriously. I apologize if I offended anyone, but I ask that this account be removed. Brian.
DAMN! I called it on the page before this.
silverbear
03-01-2010, 11:16 PM
Sorry guys,
it's me Brian, Aka romo2austin. I just felt like that people weren't taking me seriously, so I made a account for people to make me more believable.
It doesn't seem to have worked...
Perhaps that will tell you that it's the message, not the messenger, that's the problem...
JustDezIt
03-01-2010, 11:52 PM
interesting how that all unfolded right before my eyes. bet he didnt plan on gettin that account banned today. Dont take it too hard tho lil dude, we all did dumb **** when we were sixteen. You gotta work on the quality of your posts and not quantity. You got the chance to be the most knowledgeable cowboys fans of your generation by startin this young, but ya gotta type wit ya brain and not ya heart and listen to some older people that ya trust around here.
Hostile
03-02-2010, 05:30 PM
Sorry guys,
it's me Brian, Aka romo2austin. I just felt like that people weren't taking me seriously, so I made a account for people to make me more believable. Everyone just thought that because I was 16 I didn't no anything, so I just wanted to make an account for people to take me seriously. I apologize if I offended anyone, but I ask that this account be removed. Brian.This post was a lie by someone trying to get Romo 2 Austin banned.
I thought you all should know. I explain it further in the link below.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3293408&postcount=26
ABQCOWBOY
03-02-2010, 06:01 PM
You guys are missing the point. Our KICKER is stronger then all of them except Kyle, who he tied.
And there is no way that dudes a lawyer. For a while i thought it might be an alter ego of R2A.
Possibly the single best point made in this entire thread.
:laugh2:
JustDezIt
03-02-2010, 07:36 PM
Possibly the single best point made in this entire thread.
:laugh2:
Why thank you, it had previously gone unnoticed and i thought it was a good one myself.
Dash28
03-02-2010, 07:49 PM
so dude is a lawyer and a scout for SMU?
Sweet.
:laugh2:
2much2soon
03-02-2010, 08:25 PM
I'm not sure when I've ever seen a player bench press another guy during a game.
You aren't seriously dissing the positive affect bench pressing and upper body strength have on football player's game are you?
I played in high-school, at a real small school. We had no lifting program back then (early '80s) and my upper body was pretty weak. I got into lifting in college and my best bench press was like 265. I didn't think that was bad considering my size (175), the fact that I wasn't in structured, pro-instructed training program and I wasn't on 'roids like a lot of people I knew. (And I partied, hard-core, all the time, LOL.)
I went back and played in an alumni football game 10 years after high-school and was totally shocked at how much stronger I was after a few years of lifting. I was easily pushing guys around that used to handle me in high-school. And these were dudes that logged and did construction work, not office workers.
Kyle Wilson, barring injuries, should have a nice NFL career. He will be able to jack up WRs at the LOS and run with nearly any of them when he has to. And he has a good head on his shoulders.
Wilson is going to do his 40 at BSU's pro day. I may have to swing down there and check it out. I think he clocked his fastest 40 at BSU's practice facility last year, a low 4.3 when the Charger's scouts were there.
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