New USA World Cup kits

[Temo]

Don't know how many soccer fans are here (I grew up playing it, and still follow it internationally), but here's the new world cup jerseys (http://www.sbnation.com/2010/3/2/1333694/new-usa-soccer-world-cup-uniforms-are-awesome)for the US. I think they look pretty cool.

[Temo]

The sash is pretty hit-or-miss. Some like it, some don't.

[xWraithx]

goin over to Trinity Hall Pub in Dallas (on Mockingbird) to watch the US v Holland tomorrow

do you live in the area?

[xWraithx]

oh ok cool.

[tomson75]

Not a big fan.

The first comment on that page is funny though...

[CanadianCowboysFan]

For me it will be Anybody but Italy/England, then anybody but Brazil.

I hope France wins but I doubt they will.

[Alumni2k11]

Can't say I'm a fan either. The big white line reminds me of something girls wear during a beauty pageant.

[UKCowboysFan]

For me it will be Anybody but Italy/England, then anybody but Brazil.

I hope France wins but I doubt they will.

No, Not the cheating French.

[daschoo]

since we're not there, again!, i'll be supporting the germans

[CanadianCowboysFan]

No, Not the cheating French.

ah yes the myth they cheated to get to the World Cup forgetting of course that Ireland was not guaranteed a qualification, all they would have done is forced a penalty shootout.

[daschoo]

ah yes the myth they cheated to get to the World Cup forgetting of course that Ireland was not guaranteed a qualification, all they would have done is forced a penalty shootout.

he handled the ball not once but twice to set up that goal. ok it would have been penalties so france might have won that and qualified but they clearly cheated to score the goal that took them through.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

he handled the ball not once but twice to set up that goal. ok it would have been penalties so france might have won that and qualified but they clearly cheated to score the goal that took them through.

handball is not cheating, it might break the rules but it is not cheating

what is next a hold in football is cheating?

Don't blame Henry, blame the ref who didn't call the hand ball.

[daschoo]

handball is not cheating, it might break the rules but it is not cheating

what is next a hold in football is cheating?

Don't blame Henry, blame the ref who didn't call the hand ball.

breaking the rules in order to win is not cheating?
of course you blame the ref for not seeing it but it doesn't exonerate henry of blame for cheating in the first place.

[UKCowboysFan]

handball is not cheating, it might break the rules but it is not cheating

what is next a hold in football is cheating?

Don't blame Henry, blame the ref who didn't call the hand ball.

So breaking the rules is not cheating. :rolleyes:


And yes, you are correct that the French may still have got to the World Cup anyway, but it would have been a 50/50 call. However, it's just more fun to label them as cheats.


Anyway, Brazil are going to win.

They remain the only country to have won a World Cup outside of their own continent, so unless it's an African team (not going to happen) it must be Brazil :D

[CanadianCowboysFan]

to brand it cheating is ridiculous, that would mean that every foul not called is cheating, every penalty not called is cheating etc

say he hand balled it fine but to say cheating is silly

[Ren]

handball is not cheating, it might break the rules but it is not cheating

what is next a hold in football is cheating?

Don't blame Henry, blame the ref who didn't call the hand ball.

That's sig worthy stupidity right there :lmao2:

[Ren]

to brand it cheating is ridiculous, that would mean that every foul not called is cheating, every penalty not called is cheating etc

say he hand balled it fine but to say cheating is silly

going outside of the set rules to gain an unfair advantage is the very definition of cheating

[UKCowboysFan]

to brand it cheating is ridiculous, that would mean that every foul not called is cheating, every penalty not called is cheating etc

say he hand balled it fine but to say cheating is silly

A foul is usually an attempt at a tackle that is mis-timed, but is an attempt to do something within the rules of the game.

For an outfield player to handle the ball is in no way similar to a foul in as much that it's not an attempt to do something within the rules of the game. If the ball just hits you on the hand/arm then that's different, but to deliberately handle the ball, not once but twice is blatantly cheating.

As a result France should not only be kicked out of the World Cup but banned from all international football until they are back to being rubbish again like they were in the 70's :D

[CanadianCowboysFan]

That's sig worthy stupidity right there :lmao2:

so is holding in football cheating?

When Flotell tripped Tuck, was he cheating?

Did Michael Irvin cheat when he pushed off to gain an advantage, he broke the rules, what about a DB who holds/commits PI but is not called, is that cheating? If not, how is that different?

Henry reacted, handballed it and France scored. It wasn't cheating.

To me cheating is bribing an official, taking illegal performance enhancing drugs, etc

[CanadianCowboysFan]

A foul is usually an attempt at a tackle that is mis-timed, but is an attempt to do something within the rules of the game.

For an outfield player to handle the ball is in no way similar to a foul in as much that it's not an attempt to do something within the rules of the game. If the ball just hits you on the hand/arm then that's different, but to deliberately handle the ball, not once but twice is blatantly cheating.

As a result France should not only be kicked out of the World Cup but banned from all international football until they are back to being rubbish again like they were in the 70's :D

Just because England hasn't won anything since 1966 is no reason to be bitter.

I always say re England, if they held World Cups between World Cups, England would be the champs.

England could be tough this time though. Should handle the US easily in their first game and I think they have a decent draw to the Final. Just don't go to a penalty shootout because you couldn't win one if the opponent had no goalie and couldn't take any shots against your goalie.

[Ren]

so is holding in football cheating?

When Flotell tripped Tuck, was he cheating?

Did Michael Irvin cheat when he pushed off to gain an advantage, he broke the rules, what about a DB who holds/commits PI but is not called, is that cheating? If not, how is that different?

Henry reacted, handballed it and France scored. It wasn't cheating.

To me cheating is bribing an official, taking illegal performance enhancing drugs, etc

Yes, and he was fined accordingly

When Irvin pushed off back in the day it was completely within the rules of the game

Someone already explained to you the difference between incidentally breaking the rules trying to do something within the rules and blatantly breaking them.

[Ren]

Just because England hasn't won anything since 1966 is no reason to be bitter.

I always say re England, if they held World Cups between World Cups, England would be the champs.

England could be tough this time though. Should handle the US easily in their first game and I think they have a decent draw to the Final. Just don't go to a penalty shootout because you couldn't win one if the opponent had no goalie and couldn't take any shots against your goalie.


When was the last time Canada qualified for the WC? :rolleyes:

[CanadianCowboysFan]

When was the last time Canada qualified for the WC? :rolleyes:

what does that have to do with anything, we are crappy at soccer, we acknowledge it.

We are as bad at soccer as Norway is in hockey.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Yes, and he was fined accordingly

When Irvin pushed off back in the day it was completely within the rules of the game

Someone already explained to you the difference between incidentally breaking the rules trying to do something within the rules and blatantly breaking them.

that is in the eye of the beholder

A hold or push off is no more incidental than a hand ball.

Again, don't blame Henry, one of the greatest players of his generation, blame the three refs who missed it.

VIVE LA FRANCE

[Ren]

that is in the eye of the beholder

A hold or push off is no more incidental than a hand ball.

Again, don't blame Henry, one of the greatest players of his generation, blame the three refs who missed it.

VIVE LA FRANCE

It was blatant, he's even admitted it

Blatantly breaking the rules to gain an unfair advantage is cheating i don't know what kind of bizzaro world you live in the try and claim otherwise.

The definition of cheating:

v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats
v.tr.1. To deceive by trickery; swindle: cheated customers by overcharging them for purchases.
2. To deprive by trickery; defraud: cheated them of their land.
3. To mislead; fool: illusions that cheat the eye.
4. To elude; escape: cheat death.

v.intr.1. To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
2. To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
3. Informal To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.
4. Baseball To position oneself closer to a certain area than is normal or expected: The shortstop cheated toward second base.

[UKCowboysFan]

that is in the eye of the beholder

A hold or push off is no more incidental than a hand ball.

Again, don't blame Henry, one of the greatest players of his generation, blame the three refs who missed it.

VIVE LA FRANCE

So don't blame the person who cheats, instead blame the referee who didn't catch him.

On that basis do you think it's not the criminal that's responsible for the crime, but the police force that fails to catch them?

As for England, I agree that we won't win it.
As you correctly point out we have a terrible record in Penalty shoot-outs, (only time I can remember us winning one was against Spain in 1996).

The only chance we might have on pens is if we get a shoot-out against the Dutch, their record is equally as bad. :D

[tomson75]

Lmao....unbelievable.

[peplaw06]

Lmao....unbelievable.:laugh2:

I'm just watching and it's surreal.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

So don't blame the person who cheats, instead blame the referee who didn't catch him.

On that basis do you think it's not the criminal that's responsible for the crime, but the police force that fails to catch them?

As for England, I agree that we won't win it.
As you correctly point out we have a terrible record in Penalty shoot-outs, (only time I can remember us winning one was against Spain in 1996).

The only chance we might have on pens is if we get a shoot-out against the Dutch, their record is equally as bad. :D

isn't there an old adage, if you ain't "cheating" you ain't trying?

Henry might have said blatant handball (although I believe the first one was a normal human reaction) but he didn't say it was cheating. It was incidental to the game to use the words in other posts.

I just expect you and the other holier than thou types to call every penalty not called against the Cowboys next season "cheating". I have yet to see that when we aren't called for holding or PI, never once have I seen a poster say "we cheated to win".

[Expedia.co]

I really like Holland's.
Brazil's home jersey is great as always. I like their away jersey too.
Slovenia's looks like something Charlie Brown would wear lol