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Woods
03-15-2010, 10:02 AM
Panthers sign Pettiti

3/15/2010 9:50:56 AM | More


Ralph Cindrich reports via Twitter OT Rob Pettiti has signed with the Carolina Panthers.

No word on the length of contract or contract terms.

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Oh, the memories. :D

ShiningStar
03-15-2010, 10:14 AM
There are no details in the contract except the words

"we'd rather die before we give up on Pettiti"


Immediately right after that statement, he was released.

burmafrd
03-15-2010, 10:50 AM
Sometimes you have to give up on a player. The fact that Petitti has not played in the NFL since we cut him pretty much says it all.

BrAinPaiNt
03-15-2010, 10:58 AM
Sometimes you have to give up on a player. The fact that Petitti has not played in the NFL since we cut him pretty much says it all.

He has played for Two NFL teams since being cut by us...St.Louis and New Orleans...now he is on his third NFL team.

burmafrd
03-15-2010, 11:24 AM
I don't think he actually got in a game with either one from what I remember.

BrAinPaiNt
03-15-2010, 11:28 AM
I don't think he actually got in a game with either one from what I remember.

Played in 5 games the Rams and 1 for the saints although he only started once.

burmafrd
03-15-2010, 11:31 AM
Actually played in 5 games? Wow. Lot more then I thought. Though it kind of makes you think when you realize he started a whole season for us.

BrAinPaiNt
03-15-2010, 11:33 AM
Actually played in 5 games? Wow. Lot more then I thought. Though it kind of makes you think when you realize he started a whole season for us.

Yeah...It kind of surprised me as well.

Although as much as many hated on him...he really was not ready to start and was pushed into the role where it was clear he was not ready.
Sad thing is the hate here for him also was because of his dad being a board member and people wanting to push buttons over the issue.

Illini88228
03-15-2010, 11:37 AM
Always struck me as a good kid who was asked to do way too much here. What was he a 6th round draft pick?

All the best.

arglebargle
03-15-2010, 04:41 PM
A testament to having little to zilch depth. Hope we work on that again this draft.

SDogo
03-15-2010, 05:51 PM
Yeah...It kind of surprised me as well.

Although as much as many hated on him...he really was not ready to start and was pushed into the role where it was clear he was not ready.
Sad thing is the hate here for him also was because of his dad being a board member and people wanting to push buttons over the issue.

Love ya man but I have a correction. The hate grew for him once it was "implied" that we need to walk on egg shells because his dad posted here.

It almost seemed as if he could not be judged in the same manner as any other player on the Cowboys because his dad posted here and it really did make the issue bigger then it needed to be. Many went out of there way in spite to criticize him.

Truth be told, he deserved it. He was a human baffle gate but people took it to a personal level once they realized his father was here and were told to reduce the criticism.

SDogo
03-15-2010, 05:56 PM
By the way, if your looking for a connection. Dave Magazu who is the OL coach with Carolina is regular side kick of Parcells at the Horse Tracks.

Big Dakota
03-15-2010, 05:58 PM
good god:o:

burmafrd
03-15-2010, 06:08 PM
Pettiti just did not have the footwork to play tackle. Just too slow there. Nothing you can do about that. I was kind of surprised that no one has tried him at guard though. THe guy gave all he had while he was here- one should never hate on any player that is clearly putting all he has out on the field.

Hostile
03-15-2010, 06:33 PM
Love ya man but I have a correction. The hate grew for him once it was "implied" that we need to walk on egg shells because his dad posted here.

It almost seemed as if he could not be judged in the same manner as any other player on the Cowboys because his dad posted here and it really did make the issue bigger then it needed to be. Many went out of there way in spite to criticize him.

Truth be told, he deserved it. He was a human baffle gate but people took it to a personal level once they realized his father was here and were told to reduce the criticism.I don't agree with your correction at all. Pittdawg handled the criticism of his son like a champ. I can only recall one time that we jumped on his butt because he was out of line. One time despite all the things he endured about his son.

BP is exactly right. People saw a chance to really have their criticism heard and they pounced on the guy. I don't recall this site ever saying that people could not voice their opinions on Rob Pettiti. Perhaps you can show me that thread. Posters came to his defense. Some vehemently because the criticism was over the top.

Pittdawg even shared with this forum the news of the death of Parcells brother. 6 hours before any news outlet had the story. He was crucified on other forums as a liar.

Ever since then when I know someone is a family member of one of our players I advise them to keep that information quiet. I know of family members for 3 of our current players and they don't post. Thank heavens.

I hope a player's family member never posts on this site again. I am dead serious too. I don't care how great that player is, I have no doubt the lynch mobs would assemble.

SDogo
03-15-2010, 06:42 PM
I don't agree with your correction at all. Pittdawg handled the criticism of his son like a champ. I can only recall one time that we jumped on his butt because he was out of line. One time despite all the things he endured about his son.

Oh I'm not arguing how he handled himself. I give him all the credit in the world for how he handled himself. I was talking about how certain board members acted because he posted here and how new rules seemed to grow simply by his presence.

BP is exactly right. People saw a chance to really have their criticism heard and they pounced on the guy. I don't recall this site ever saying that people could not voice their opinions on Rob Pettiti. Perhaps you can show me that thread. Posters came to his defense. Some vehemently because the criticism was over the top.

I'll be honest Hos I'm not going to find anything at this point in time and maybe I'm recalling wrong for the majority. I just know I was very vocal about my feelings for Rob as a player just as I am with any player (you know that) and more then a few times it was suggested that I tone it down even though I never took it to a personal level or voiced my opinion any louder the I would have with any player.

Pittdawg even shared with this forum the news of the death of Parcells brother. 6 hours before any news outlet had the story. He was crucified on other forums as a liar.

There were benefits to having him here and the fact that he was so front and center were a experience many posters did not know how to handle.

Ever since then when I know someone is a family member of one of our players I advise them to keep that information quiet. I know of family members for 3 of our current players and they don't post. Thank heavens.

I hope a player's family member never posts on this site again. I am dead serious too. I don't care how great that player is, I have no doubt the lynch mobs would assemble.

I know of one who has posted maybe a handful of times and I doubt that number will grow much. VERY smart move.

Bob Sacamano
03-15-2010, 06:54 PM
Being a Parcells' pet still carries a lot of weight I see lol

The Emperor
03-15-2010, 07:04 PM
Actually played in 5 games? Wow. Lot more then I thought. Though it kind of makes you think when you realize he started a whole season for us.

Yeah, and that's what sealed our fate when Flozell went down in Week 6 of the '05 season. At that point, we were having to hide two tackles. Remember ol' Torrin Tucker?

Hostile
03-15-2010, 07:04 PM
Oh I'm not arguing how he handled himself. I give him all the credit in the world for how he handled himself. I was talking about how certain board members acted because he posted here and how new rules seemed to grow simply by his presence.What new rule? I would really be interested in knowing that since I am the guy who updates them. Maybe you can let me know something that I don't even know that I did. We have edited the format and made things clearer, but it is news to me that we created a rule for Rob Pettiti. Help me out please.

I'll be honest Hos I'm not going to find anything at this point in time and maybe I'm recalling wrong for the majority. I just know I was very vocal about my feelings for Rob as a player just as I am with any player (you know that) and more then a few times it was suggested that I tone it down even though I never took it to a personal level or voiced my opinion any louder the I would have with any player.Fan and poster opinions do not equal rules.

To my knowledge no one got banned for disliking the player. Some got infractions because their comments were over the top. That happens regardless of the topic.

There were benefits to having him here and the fact that he was so front and center were a experience many posters did not know how to handle.I agree. Benefits we will probably never have again. I find that kind of sad.

I know of one who has posted maybe a handful of times and I doubt that number will grow much. VERY smart move.I probably know who you are talking about. I know of a couple of semi-active posters. One guy let it be known who he was related to one time but thankfully no one really noticed it.

SDogo
03-15-2010, 08:11 PM
What new rule? I would really be interested in knowing that since I am the guy who updates them. Maybe you can let me know something that I don't even know that I did. We have edited the format and made things clearer, but it is news to me that we created a rule for Rob Pettiti. Help me out please.

I never accused you of writing any rules. It seemed at the time to be more of a unwritten rule. Perhaps mods were protecting Pittdawg and were trying to quiet things before they got out of hand but it just seemed at the time criticism of Rob was being held to a different standard then other players because of his father.


To my knowledge no one got banned for disliking the player. Some got infractions because their comments were over the top. That happens regardless of the topic.

I never recall anyone getting banned because of it either but I can promise you, if we were able to pull up old PM's the threat was made to myself for comments that were no more outrageous or personal then those I might make of any player. I wont say if this happened to other members, it's not my roll to speak for them.

Again, it's just at the time it did seem a rash of unwritten rules and standard seemed to follow Pittdawg around.

There are no hard feelings over it. It's long passed. I have no reason to hold a grudge or for that matter make up any stories or dramatize how I felt. It's just how I remember it in my case and that of the other members I remember speaking to that felt the same way.

SDogo
03-15-2010, 08:15 PM
One more thing Hos, to clear something up. Not so much of this was due to critism of Rob but the extra protection Pittdawg seemed to receive. It was like because of who he was you were not able to approach him and openly dispute him because of his status.

Hostile
03-15-2010, 09:36 PM
I never accused you of writing any rules.http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3309416&postcount=16

1st paragraph...

"I was talking about how certain board members acted because he posted here and how new rules seemed to grow simply by his presence."

I don't know how I could assume you meant we made "new rules" when all you said was "new rules."

It seemed at the time to be more of a unwritten rule. Perhaps mods were protecting Pittdawg and were trying to quiet things before they got out of hand but it just seemed at the time criticism of Rob was being held to a different standard then other players because of his father.I simply don't agree with this. There was no unwritten rule. There were no stricter standards. Posters felt it was over the top and they defended him. It was no different than the defense of Quincy Carter, Roy Williams, or any other controversial player.

I never recall anyone getting banned because of it either but I can promise you, if we were able to pull up old PM's the threat was made to myself for comments that were no more outrageous or personal then those I might make of any player. I wont say if this happened to other members, it's not my roll to speak for them.I find this a little hard to believe. I know that it was before we used the infraction system, but it is completely against our policies on how we Moderate. The only thing we have changed in all the years I have been doing this is to go to an infraction system. We have NEVER banned, warned, or suspended anyone for their opinions unless racism or some other such gross ideology was involved.

Again, it's just at the time it did seem a rash of unwritten rules and standard seemed to follow Pittdawg around.Your perception of it is wrong from where I sit. Posters defended him, but rules were not enacted.

There are no hard feelings over it. It's long passed. I have no reason to hold a grudge or for that matter make up any stories or dramatize how I felt. It's just how I remember it in my case and that of the other members I remember speaking to that felt the same way.It has been my observation that posters immediately feel they are being challenged on the rules if a Mod has an opinion. That doesn't make it a rule. That is why I disagree with your perception. It strips the entire staff of the right to have their own opinions.

One more thing Hos, to clear something up. Not so much of this was due to critism of Rob but the extra protection Pittdawg seemed to receive. It was like because of who he was you were not able to approach him and openly dispute him because of his status.he didn't receive any extra protection. He didn't run to us. I don't think he ever reported a post. Not even ones that were so over the top that they got deleted. Other fans here appreciated the guy and defended him. You didn't. Others didn't. Don't make it any more than that.

SDogo
03-15-2010, 09:43 PM
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3309416&postcount=16

1st paragraph...

"I was talking about how certain board members acted because he posted here and how new rules seemed to grow simply by his presence."

I don't know how I could assume you meant we made "new rules" when all you said was "new rules."

I simply don't agree with this. There was no unwritten rule. There were no stricter standards. Posters felt it was over the top and they defended him. It was no different than the defense of Quincy Carter, Roy Williams, or any other controversial player.

I find this a little hard to believe. I know that it was before we used the infraction system, but it is completely against our policies on how we Moderate. The only thing we have changed in all the years I have been doing this is to go to an infraction system. We have NEVER banned, warned, or suspended anyone for their opinions unless racism or some other such gross ideology was involved.

Your perception of it is wrong from where I sit. Posters defended him, but rules were not enacted.

It has been my observation that posters immediately feel they are being challenged on the rules if a Mod has an opinion. That doesn't make it a rule. That is why I disagree with your perception. It strips the entire staff of the right to have their own opinions.

he didn't receive any extra protection. He didn't run to us. I don't think he ever reported a post. Not even ones that were so over the top that they got deleted. Other fans here appreciated the guy and defended him. You didn't. Others didn't. Don't make it any more than that.

Like I said Hos, I know what I was told by a mod on this board more then once. I'm not going to make it up and I dont harbor any ill feelings toward them. This is not something I made up in my head or occurred during a debate where I disagreed with a mod, you should know me better then that.

I'm not hear to call a mod out or to even single out a poster. I swear on my children and everything I believe in and our friendship, I received more then one PM suggesting that it would be in my best interest to not attack Pittdawg and let me say, personal attacks were never made. Opinions were expressed directly to him about his sons play, opinions that should be expected if he was going to make himself available just as you would expect from any poster. With that statement I also stand by it when I say I was not the only one who received this PM.

SDogo
03-15-2010, 10:03 PM
On a side note Hos, I had to laugh going back and look at some of the old threads. In one of them you were adimate that there was no way Rob would not be a Cowboys uniform in 2006 after starting the whole year as a rookie. You know I can say your never typically that far off in your judgments but reading some of those threads, you flunked 2005. lol

Hostile
03-15-2010, 10:28 PM
On a side note Hos, I had to laugh going back and look at some of the old threads. In one of them you were adimate that there was no way Rob would not be a Cowboys uniform in 2006 after starting the whole year as a rookie. You know I can say your never typically that far off in your judgments but reading some of those threads, you flunked 2005. lolLet me ask you a serious question. Can you name me any other rookie who started 16 games and was waived the next year? Just one. Any position.

SDogo
03-16-2010, 04:09 AM
Let me ask you a serious question. Can you name me any other rookie who started 16 games and was waived the next year? Just one. Any position.

No I cant but I also cant think of a rookie who would of have had that type of year and not been replaced at some point. Heck, I cant think of a vet that would not of been replaced if they had that kind of year.

THUMPER
03-16-2010, 07:28 AM
Love ya man but I have a correction. The hate grew for him once it was "implied" that we need to walk on egg shells because his dad posted here.

It almost seemed as if he could not be judged in the same manner as any other player on the Cowboys because his dad posted here and it really did make the issue bigger then it needed to be. Many went out of there way in spite to criticize him.

Opinion be told, he deserved it. He was a human baffle gate but people took it to a personal level once they realized his father was here and were told to reduce the criticism.

I fixed it for ya. :rolleyes:

burmafrd
03-16-2010, 07:54 AM
I just feel that he got too much personal sounding hate. Pettiti gave all he had in the games and there was no reason for that hate.

Hostile
03-16-2010, 08:09 AM
No I cant but I also cant think of a rookie who would of have had that type of year and not been replaced at some point. Heck, I cant think of a vet that would not of been replaced if they had that kind of year.Then perhaps rather than take a shot at me, take a shot at Parcells. My guarantee would have been based on the fact that Parcells told him he'd die before he let him fail and then started him the entire season. My analysis of 2005 was off? No, I think I read the tea leaves just fine. The man in charge did something unheard of and broke a promise to the kid.

SDogo
03-16-2010, 04:26 PM
Then perhaps rather than take a shot at me, take a shot at Parcells. My guarantee would have been based on the fact that Parcells told him he'd die before he let him fail and then started him the entire season. My analysis of 2005 was off? No, I think I read the tea leaves just fine. The man in charge did something unheard of and broke a promise to the kid.


No, no, no Hos........nothing to take personal! I was not taking a shot at you! It's just funny going back and reading those threads in hindsight is all. Damn man, When I have ever questioned you judgment? Like I said, for the most part your always pretty on your game. Dont take what I said the wrong way.

SDogo
03-16-2010, 04:27 PM
I fixed it for ya. :rolleyes:

Uh it was never an opinion. The guy was horrible, thus his exit after one year and inability to really catch on in the NFL. That's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Hostile
03-16-2010, 05:04 PM
No, no, no Hos........nothing to take personal! I was not taking a shot at you! It's just funny going back and reading those threads in hindsight is all. Damn man, When I have ever questioned you judgment? Like I said, for the most part your always pretty on your game. Dont take what I said the wrong way.I didn't take it wrong.

I just think a guarantee he was going to be on the team based on 16 starts and a promise from his coach is not all that mind boggling. I liked the kid. I think he got thrown to the wolves.

Mostly I just really disagree with the contention that there were special rules here. I believe I would have been included in the discussions. I think people were overly rude to Pittdawg and he handled it well.

I will never again wish for a player's family to let the people here know who they are if they post. I was never more embarrassed of people on this site than those days.

SDogo
03-16-2010, 05:39 PM
Mostly I just really disagree with the contention that there were special rules here. I believe I would have been included in the discussions. I think people were overly rude to Pittdawg and he handled it well.


Well we will just have to agree to disagree on that one.

Chocolate Lab
03-16-2010, 06:58 PM
There are no details in the contract except the words

"we'd rather die before we give up on Pettiti"


Immediately right after that statement, he was released.

:lmao:

Hostile
03-16-2010, 07:49 PM
Well we will just have to agree to disagree on that one.Yeah, because I am not going to budge. I know we didn't have special rules.

Teague31
03-16-2010, 08:00 PM
:lmao2:

SDogo
03-16-2010, 08:34 PM
Yeah, because I am not going to budge. I know we didn't have special rules.

Then a certain mod went against the grain with out sharing it with the rest of you because I assure you I received the PM's as certain as I'm sitting here breathing.

Hostile
03-17-2010, 01:02 AM
Then a certain mod went against the grain with out sharing it with the rest of you because I assure you I received the PM's as certain as I'm sitting here breathing.That may well be. I can't prove it never happened and I am not saying it didn't. We are all human. It was not in our rules and not discussed or enforced. Things that got people in trouble are the same things that will in any topic.

As I said, people were horribly out of line. If you were and someone stepped in then it happened. I remember being very on edge those days out of sheer embarrassment. I highly doubt I am the only person on the staff who was appalled.

Hoofbite
03-17-2010, 02:47 AM
I just feel that he got too much personal sounding hate. Pettiti gave all he had in the games and there was no reason for that hate.

This isn't little league where everyone gets a trophy for trying.

If you suck and are doing a terrible job, you are holding the team back.

MarionBarberThe4th
03-17-2010, 03:11 AM
This isn't little league where everyone gets a trophy for trying.

If you suck and are doing a terrible job, you are holding the team back.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1608809/results.mp3

Idgit
03-17-2010, 04:06 AM
Then a certain mod went against the grain with out sharing it with the rest of you because I assure you I received the PM's as certain as I'm sitting here breathing.

Taking you off ignore for a moment: is the heart of your argument really that people were justified in acting like idiots to Pittdawg because the mods on the board really wanted everybody to show some class to a family member of one of our players? Because that's not a very good justification.

If I were getting PMs at the time from mods because my behavior in a chat room was offensive to somebody's family on a personal level, I'd shut my mouth about it and hope to learn from my mistake rather than justifying it with more nonsense relating to how oppressed you felt at the time by the board's volunteer moderators going out of the way to police you when you were unable to do the job properly yourself.

SDogo
03-17-2010, 05:18 AM
Taking you off ignore for a moment: is the heart of your argument really that people were justified in acting like idiots to Pittdawg

No, no, no not at all! The personal attacks were ugly and uncalled for. As I stated I never took it to a personal level against Pittdawg. To me, he was treated as any member of this board. There were times we agreed and time we disagreed. It was never personal on my end with Pittdawg even though as Hos said, it happened and was ugly.

SDogo
03-17-2010, 05:19 AM
As I said, people were horribly out of line.

I'm not arguing that fact at all Hos

burmafrd
03-17-2010, 07:35 AM
This isn't little league where everyone gets a trophy for trying.

If you suck and are doing a terrible job, you are holding the team back.


Typical. when a person is doing his best, leaving all he has out on the field, there is NO JUSTIFICATION for posting hate on him. I really dislike the proctologist, but even there I admit I have never seen any real sign that he is not doing the best he can. Sad thing is his best is not very good.

Idgit
03-17-2010, 09:46 AM
No, no, no not at all! The personal attacks were ugly and uncalled for. As I stated I never took it to a personal level against Pittdawg. To me, he was treated as any member of this board. There were times we agreed and time we disagreed. It was never personal on my end with Pittdawg even though as Hos said, it happened and was ugly.

Ah, SDogo, then I misunderstood and owe you an apology. I thought you were saying you were PM'd on the topic and I mistook that to mean the mods were warning you.

In my mind, there's a huge difference between venting frustration on players on a message board when it's nothing more than blowing off steam anonymously, and doing the same thing when you know you're communicating with that person's family or to the person's face. I don't remember who the culprits were, but I do recall being embarrassed for them when it was going on. The mods were a lot more lenient than I would have been, I think. I'd have just started shutting down user accounts.

Hostile
03-17-2010, 09:50 AM
I'm not arguing that fact at all HosI don't feel like you are arguing at all. We all have opinions. My only reaction is that we did not have special rules for him.

One person who shall remain nameless posted that Pittdawg and his wife should have aborted Rob. How exactly is that "honest commentary" on his abilities?

The kid was physically beat up, struggling, and yet Parcells kept him out there. Parcells gets a pass and the kid continues to get beat up.

It disgusts me. It always has.

burmafrd
03-17-2010, 11:31 AM
Well Hoss who did we have to replace Pettiti? We were flat out of options and even injured he was the best we had. Which is pretty sad in itself. With Flo out we found out the hard way how thin we were at tackle.

HoleInTheRoof
03-17-2010, 11:37 AM
Hug it out, drama queens.

SDogo
03-17-2010, 12:10 PM
Ah, SDogo, then I misunderstood and owe you an apology. I thought you were saying you were PM'd on the topic and I mistook that to mean the mods were warning you.

In my mind, there's a huge difference between venting frustration on players on a message board when it's nothing more than blowing off steam anonymously, and doing the same thing when you know you're communicating with that person's family or to the person's face. I don't remember who the culprits were, but I do recall being embarrassed for them when it was going on. The mods were a lot more lenient than I would have been, I think. I'd have just started shutting down user accounts.

That's alright, looking back over the posts I can see how what I said may have been misunderstood even though I thought I made it clear.

Nah, Pittdawg was a good guy, heck I know I board he posts on now and we still talk from time to time.

SDogo
03-17-2010, 12:12 PM
I don't feel like you are arguing at all. We all have opinions. My only reaction is that we did not have special rules for him.

One person who shall remain nameless posted that Pittdawg and his wife should have aborted Rob. How exactly is that "honest commentary" on his abilities?

The kid was physically beat up, struggling, and yet Parcells kept him out there. Parcells gets a pass and the kid continues to get beat up.

It disgusts me. It always has.

You know Hos I do owe you an apology. Looking back at those threads it was never really the mods who seemed to protect him beyond what they would for anyone else as it was some of our posters. To be honest outside my isolated incident the mods handled it VERY well considering some of the things that were said.

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong and this appears to be one of those cases.

BrAinPaiNt
03-17-2010, 01:08 PM
Hug it out, drama queens.

:lmao2: :lmao:

zrinkill
03-17-2010, 01:41 PM
How exactly is that "honest commentary" on his abilities?


Yup ..... the original post in that thread was this.


"Parcells Protection Plan! Was it built for Rob Pettiti cause HE SUCKS!"


Truly an honest and intelligent discussion about a rookie 6th round draft pick who was forced to start 16 games, out of position, by a legend in our sport.

SDogo
03-17-2010, 02:32 PM
Yup ..... the original post in that thread was this.


"Parcells Protection Plan! Was it built for Rob Pettiti cause HE SUCKS!"


Truly an honest and intelligent discussion about a rookie 6th round draft pick who was forced to start 16 games, out of position, by a legend in our sport.

In all honesty, I'll take the heat for this because with out looking I do believe that was my post. I'm not going to hide from that fact. With that said, I was not about to expect any less from a starter on our team despite his draft position then I would any other. I highly doubt Hamlin or Barbie would be getting a free pass right now if they were a 6th round picks.

Hostile
03-17-2010, 05:36 PM
You know Hos I do owe you an apology. Looking back at those threads it was never really the mods who seemed to protect him beyond what they would for anyone else as it was some of our posters. To be honest outside my isolated incident the mods handled it VERY well considering some of the things that were said.

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong and this appears to be one of those cases.No sweat. I appreciated your candor all the same.