View Full Version : Does Anyone Know What This Weight Equipment is Called?
Kristi
03-22-2010, 03:59 PM
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I'm writing my first blog for the Reeve Foundation and it's about working out from a wheelchair at a normal gym. I am in my second spinal cord study and this is what we are doing and I just LOVE it! The eye candy is NICE too. ;)
I am getting on equipment I never dreamed I thought I could transfer on, but with a little assistance on some machines it is doable. The machine above seriously makes my arms HURT. I did a big workout Thursday (that'll teach me to ask to do another set) and today my triceps are still sore and I think it's this machine. My goal is to lift the big weights. I'm working my way up!
I need to know what this equipment is called for my blog. Anyone know?
I'll be sure to post the blog address once I get it.
Hoofbite
03-22-2010, 04:53 PM
Pain.
Chocolate Lab
03-22-2010, 05:12 PM
It's hard to tell exactly from the pic, but if I'm seeing it right, it's Hammer Strength. That looks like their Jammer machine.
You load plates on it like a barbell, right?
This stuff was started by the son of Arthur Jones, the genius inventor of Nautilus. The idea was to make machines that increased in resistance as you got closer to full contraction, only far cheaper to make and ship because you didn't have to pay for the stack of selectorized weights.
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab55/kristina_allen/equipment.jpg
I'm writing my first blog for the Reeve Foundation and it's about working out from a wheelchair at a normal gym. I am in my second spinal cord study and this is what we are doing and I just LOVE it! The eye candy is NICE too. ;)
I am getting on equipment I never dreamed I thought I could transfer on, but with a little assistance on some machines it is doable. The machine above seriously makes my arms HURT. I did a big workout Thursday (that'll teach me to ask to do another set) and today my triceps are still sore and I think it's this machine. My goal is to lift the big weights. I'm working my way up!
I need to know what this equipment is called for my blog. Anyone know?
I'll be sure to post the blog address once I get it.
I have memberships to several different gyms and I'm not sure what that machine is but it definitely doesn't look like anything for the triceps. It looks like it could be an upper chest workout. What body part were you working out?
Kristi
03-22-2010, 05:32 PM
It's working my arms. Now granted I am sitting in a chair. My physical therapist described how football players use it and they squat a little and push out. I'm sitting in wheelchair and pushing it out and up extending my arms straight. I can't push it unless someone steps on my footplate because my chair doesn't stay on the ground.
It may not be a tricep machine, but how I am positioned it's working my triceps and pretty much my entire under part of my arm. Pain I was in when I got done with it and still a little sore today. Love it though --- means it is working.
Yes, CL you load plates onto it like a barbell.
I might have to wait til Thursday when I go back to the gym and get actual names of the equipment I am using. This is pretty close to what I am using at the Wellness Center.
It's working my arms. Now granted I am sitting in a chair. My physical therapist described how football players use it and they squat a little and push out. I'm sitting in wheelchair and pushing it out and up extending my arms straight. I can't push it unless someone steps on my footplate because my chair doesn't stay on the ground.
It may not be a tricep machine, but how I am positioned it's working my triceps and pretty much my entire under part of my arm. Pain I was in when I got done with it and still a little sore today. Love it though --- means it is working.
Yes, CL you load plates onto it like a barbell.
I might have to wait til Thursday when I go back to the gym and get actual names of the equipment I am using. This is pretty close to what I am using at the Wellness Center.
Because you're sitting in a wheelchair you're having to compensate which is causing the movement you're performing to focus more on your arms than the intended body part the machine is designed to work.
Kristi
03-22-2010, 07:08 PM
Yes, I know. I just want to know what this machine is called. It has to have a specific name. Right?
Bob Sacamano
03-22-2010, 07:12 PM
Yes, I know. I just want to know what this machine is called. It has to have a specific name. Right?
Thingamajig.
ethiostar
03-22-2010, 07:14 PM
Thingamajig.
No, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure its called the doohickey.
Bob Sacamano
03-22-2010, 07:16 PM
No, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure its called the doohickey.
But are you positive?
Kristi
03-22-2010, 07:17 PM
Thingambobber was already mentioned on FB. I want an official technical word for it.
Yes, I know. I just want to know what this machine is called. It has to have a specific name. Right?
It appears to be an Iso-lateral machine for the back/chest/shoulders
ethiostar
03-22-2010, 07:22 PM
But are you positive?
Come to think of it, i think its called thingamabob.
Thingambobber was already mentioned on FB. I want an official technical word for it.
It's clearly a plate loaded Iso-lateral machine.
Chocolate Lab
03-22-2010, 09:43 PM
It's working my arms. Now granted I am sitting in a chair. My physical therapist described how football players use it and they squat a little and push out.
Yep, it's a Hammer Strength Jammer, then. :)
http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/content.cfm/jammer
And I like that machine, too. Like your therapist said, it's like you'd do a push press, only with more of a forward component. I don't know why someone said you're not using the "body part" intended... It's kind of a two-part movement, and you are doing the top pushing part just like anyone else would.
But I agree that those machines do feel good to use. I think it's because they get harder though the range of movement and are still very smooth. Much better than traditional machines with weight stacks.
Way to go and get strong, Kristi! :) Keep us updated... I bet your strength goes up really fast if this kind of training is new for you.
Yep, it's a Hammer Strength Jammer, then. :)
http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/content.cfm/jammer
And I like that machine, too. Like your therapist said, it's like you'd do a push press, only with more of a forward component. I don't know why someone said you're not using the "body part" intended... It's kind of a two-part movement, and you are doing the top pushing part just like anyone else would.
But I agree that those machines do feel good to use. I think it's because they get harder though the range of movement and are still very smooth. Much better than traditional machines with weight stacks.
Way to go and get strong, Kristi! :) Keep us updated... I bet your strength goes up really fast if this kind of training is new for you.
If it's only her arms that are sore then she's not using the correct technique. She's sitting in a wheelchair and isn't able to squat and use her legs as intended. This is causing her to have to press the weight up and down with just her arms and upper body.
Kristi
03-23-2010, 11:23 AM
Well, obviously I can't use it the correct way, but this IS another machine I can use in a normal gym. I have to wheel over the top of it, but that doesn't take much. They don't have equipment like this in outpatient rehab.
The point being is a lot of disabled people don't think they can work out in a gym or afraid to because they don't think there is equipment they can use. I'm guilty of thinking that. My physical therapist is doing a study transitioning about 7 of us into working out with him and then doing it on our own and he hopes to take this study nationwide.
I'm having a blast working out in a normal gym (I have great equipment at home too that I use that is accessible) as there are people my age. It's a good motivating factor as opposed to recovering stroke and broken hip patients at outpatient rehab. It's a big difference.
CL -- I like the Jammer. My therapist has me doing a couple set of 20 with each arm and one set pushing it with both arms. I like that my arms are sore after it -- means I'm working the muscles. I also like being able to get on a mat, stick my head over the side and do some tricep exercises that way too.
Eskimo
03-23-2010, 01:37 PM
Remember to focus on the smaller stabilizing muscles of the upper extremity as they are very important for wheeling. There is an extremely high rate of rotator cuff tears that develop over time in wheelchair athletes.
Chocolate Lab
03-23-2010, 06:39 PM
If it's only her arms that are sore then she's not using the correct technique. She's sitting in a wheelchair and isn't able to squat and use her legs as intended. This is causing her to have to press the weight up and down with just her arms and upper body.
Good grief. You're one of those people who will argue about anything, aren't you?
Have you ever used this machine?
You can, and many people do, just stand straight and press out with arms and shoulders only. So how can you say she isn't using "correct" technique?
Anyway...
Kristi -- that's cool. I usually lift free weights, but there's a rehab clinic that I sometimes join for a month or so at a time that has a bunch of Hammer stuff. You're making me want to go sign up and use the Jammer again. :)
Hostile
03-23-2010, 06:55 PM
Good grief. You're one of those people who will argue about anything, aren't you?
Have you ever used this machine?
You can, and many people do, just stand straight and press out with arms and shoulders only. So how can you say she isn't using "correct" technique?
Anyway...
Kristi -- that's cool. I usually lift free weights, but there's a rehab clinic that I sometimes join for a month or so at a time that has a bunch of Hammer stuff. You're making me want to go sign up and use the Jammer again. :)Oh you have so opened yourself up to being LOLed to death in countless replies that spin off into dementia. I counted something like 17 LOLs in one response from him. Pretty much told me it wasn't worth my time to discuss anything with him.
Good grief. You're one of those people who will argue about anything, aren't you?
Have you ever used this machine?
You can, and many people do, just stand straight and press out with arms and shoulders only. So how can you say she isn't using "correct" technique?
Anyway...
Kristi -- that's cool. I usually lift free weights, but there's a rehab clinic that I sometimes join for a month or so at a time that has a bunch of Hammer stuff. You're making me want to go sign up and use the Jammer again. :)
I'm not arguing just pointing out why her arms are sore from using that machine. I've never used that particular machine but I've seen people use it and you're suppose to stand, lean slightly forward and squat using your legs as support. She's not able to use the proper technique because she's sitting in a wheelchair that has to be stabilized by someone using their foot to hold her chair down. The machine wasn't designed for sitting or there would be a seat there. :rolleyes: She's obviously having to compensate from sitting in a wheelchair and not being able to use the proper techniquie is putting most of the stress on her arms.
Oh you have so opened yourself up to being LOLed to death in countless replies that spin off into dementia. I counted something like 17 LOLs in one response from him. Pretty much told me it wasn't worth my time to discuss anything with him.
You know all about being LOL'ed to death after our last argument may you rest in peace. LOL It's obviously still sticking in your craw. I don't what bugged you more the LOL's or the emoticons. :nana: :laugh2:
Kristi
03-23-2010, 11:39 PM
Don't you think my physical therapist, the Wellness Center trainers or hell even the football players that watch me do this machine would stop me if I was in danger of hurting myself? I found a new way of using the machine to suit me. That rocks in my book! My physical therapist works with people with all disabilities -- he's not going to put me on a machine that's not going to benefit me in anyway and definitely not put me on one that is going to hurt me.
And how can you tell someone you are doing a machine wrong if you have never used one yourself? And how do you know sitting at it is so bad? Isn't the saying no pain, no gain? I'm glad my arm muscles are sore -- it means I am working out.
I'm sweating and out of breath at the end of two hours -- I think sore arms are an accomplishment of what I did that day. I did 7 different exercises on the free weights, hit the heavy bag, two different exercises on the pull down bar, stomach and back exercises on the mat (that used my arms), and this jammer on Thursday. Wouldn't you be sore after all that?
My arms, abs, and back are getting a good workout with this Jammer. All things beneficial to me for wheeling and transfers. I am in a chair -- my arms, shoulders, and back are what we work out. As Eskimo mentioned the rotator cuff surgery --- I'm trying to prevent that as best I can and keep this body going as long as possible. I've spent half my life in a chair and my rehab doc suggested a power chair, but I'm not ready for that.
I am adapting myself to the equipment I can use the best I can. That's what we do. Until the Wellness Center gets accessible equipment (and I am not holding my breath on that happening anytime soon) this is what I get to use.
Check back with me in May when this study ends and I'll let you know how my progress is and if this Jammer was beneficial to me or not.
How is it you guys talk about your arm muscles? Pythons and guns right? I'll definitely have some bigger ones in May. :D
Kristi
03-23-2010, 11:41 PM
Oh and CL I encourage you to jump back on the Jammer. :D ;)
Hostile
03-23-2010, 11:43 PM
How is it you guys talk about your arm muscles? Pythons and guns right? I'll definitely have some bigger ones in May. :D
My brother David, has some funny lines.
"Got any tape?" he flexes, "I'm ripped."
"Got a band aid?" another flex, "I'm cut."
"Get your tickets," flex, "to the gun show."
Hostile
03-23-2010, 11:44 PM
You know all about being LOL'ed to death after our last argument may you rest in peace. LOL It's obviously still sticking in your craw. I don't what bugged you more the LOL's or the emoticons. :nana: :laugh2:Nothing stuck in my craw because it was completely juvenile and insignificant to me. I was talking to Chocolate Lab anyway.
Kristi
03-24-2010, 12:18 AM
My brother David, has some funny lines.
"Got any tape?" he flexes, "I'm ripped."
"Got a band aid?" another flex, "I'm cut."
"Get your tickets," flex, "to the gun show."
:lmao:
PERFECT! Come May -- I'm using all those in one gigantic long sentence because my muscles will be just that -- gigantic! ;)
Quite honestly I don't want them that huge. I just want to be stronger cause all that helps with transfers. The stronger you are the easier they are and the quicker they go.
Nothing stuck in my craw because it was completely juvenile and insignificant to me. I was talking to Chocolate Lab anyway.
You were talking to him about me referring to our disagreement awhile back. He isn't the first poster you've mentioned this to so if it was insignificant you wouldn't keep mentioning it.
Hostile
03-24-2010, 12:42 AM
:lmao:
PERFECT! Come May -- I'm using all those in one gigantic long sentence because my muscles will be just that -- gigantic! ;)
Quite honestly I don't want them that huge. I just want to be stronger cause all that helps with transfers. The stronger you are the easier they are and the quicker they go.He has another one too. I will try and remember it for you.
Hostile
03-24-2010, 12:43 AM
You were talking to him about me referring to our disagreement awhile back. He isn't the first poster you've mentioned this to so if it was insignificant you wouldn't keep mentioning it.Yeah, I would.
Don't you think my physical therapist, the Wellness Center trainers or hell even the football players that watch me do this machine would stop me if I was in danger of hurting myself? I found a new way of using the machine to suit me. That rocks in my book! My physical therapist works with people with all disabilities -- he's not going to put me on a machine that's not going to benefit me in anyway and definitely not put me on one that is going to hurt me.
And how can you tell someone you are doing a machine wrong if you have never used one yourself? And how do you know sitting at it is so bad? Isn't the saying no pain, no gain? I'm glad my arm muscles are sore -- it means I am working out.
I'm sweating and out of breath at the end of two hours -- I think sore arms are an accomplishment of what I did that day. I did 7 different exercises on the free weights, hit the heavy bag, two different exercises on the pull down bar, stomach and back exercises on the mat (that used my arms), and this jammer on Thursday. Wouldn't you be sore after all that?
My arms, abs, and back are getting a good workout with this Jammer. All things beneficial to me for wheeling and transfers. I am in a chair -- my arms, shoulders, and back are what we work out. As Eskimo mentioned the rotator cuff surgery --- I'm trying to prevent that as best I can and keep this body going as long as possible. I've spent half my life in a chair and my rehab doc suggested a power chair, but I'm not ready for that.
I am adapting myself to the equipment I can use the best I can. That's what we do. Until the Wellness Center gets accessible equipment (and I am not holding my breath on that happening anytime soon) this is what I get to use.
Check back with me in May when this study ends and I'll let you know how my progress is and if this Jammer was beneficial to me or not.
How is it you guys talk about your arm muscles? Pythons and guns right? I'll definitely have some bigger ones in May. :D
I never said you were hurting yourself or in danger or that the machine won't benefit you I'm just explaining why you could be suffering soreness in just your arms. :rolleyes: It's obvious the machine wasn't designed for a handicapped person sitting in a wheelchair so you're having to compensate. I may not have used that particular machine but I've used machines that are similar. Like I mentioned I've seen guys use that machine and the technique they used. The proper form is in a standing, squatting position that's why there's no seat it works the arms, shoulders, back and legs. It works the entire body. The machine was built without a seat but that doesn't mean you can't use one. I would assume if you're sitting at the machine you would be lower than a person who's standing and squatting which probably causes you to have to press the weight more straight up over your head rather than at an incline which could explain why you're having soreness in your triceps. I'm not trying to start an argument I'm just giving you some feedback as to why it's hurting your arms. LOL All I can do is go by what you've said. You're doing the entire lift with your arms with no help from your legs. You should also be sore in the shoulders, chest and maybe even your thighs if you were able to do the proper form.
Yeah, I would.
Then it's more significant than you're letting on. Eventually you'll get over it and to think it all got started because I called Maryb immature. LOL Anyone who would jump on me for that are the ones looking for an argument.
Hostile
03-24-2010, 08:44 AM
Then it's more significant than you're letting on. Eventually you'll get over it and to think it all got started because I called Maryb immature. LOL Anyone who would jump on me for that are the ones looking for an argument.There's your proof I haven't let it gnaw at me. I couldn't have told you the topic. You knew. I remember the juvenile tactics, not the discussion.
There's your proof I haven't let it gnaw at me. I couldn't have told you the topic. You knew. I remember the juvenile tactics, not the discussion.
You're crying about all my LOL's and emoticons and you're calling me juvenile? :rolleyes: As for the topic we argued I can't blame you for wanting to forget about it. LOL
Hostile
03-24-2010, 09:00 AM
You're crying about all my LOL's and emoticons and you're calling me juvenile? :rolleyes: As for the topic we argued I can't blame you for wanting to forget about it. LOLI called the tactics juvenile, not you. Yeah, I'm crying. Sure.
Kristi
03-24-2010, 11:24 AM
OK - KJJ I get what you are saying, but my arms could be sore from the other exercises I do too. I do a lot in two hours -- they are probably sore from a combination of exercises, not just this specific machine.
You keep talking about the technique and proper form and well, I'll never be able to do it the proper way unless you have the cure for spinal cord injuries in your pocket and feel like giving it to me --- I have to make do and use it the way I and my physical therapist see fit for me. You can talk about proper form to me until your blue in the face, but since I can't stand, not even a little bit -- proper form for this machine doesn't apply to me.
Until gyms around the country get proper accessible equipment I am adapting the best I can to the equipment they have. It's a different workout then I do at home and different muscles. It's all good for my body and health and that's what matters.
I just wanted to know what the machine was called. Not start a big hoopla disagreement on what/who is right and wrong.
Hostile
03-24-2010, 01:21 PM
:lmao:
PERFECT! Come May -- I'm using all those in one gigantic long sentence because my muscles will be just that -- gigantic! ;)
Quite honestly I don't want them that huge. I just want to be stronger cause all that helps with transfers. The stronger you are the easier they are and the quicker they go.I remembered his other one.
"Did the zoo call?" flex, "I found their pythons."
OK - KJJ I get what you are saying, but my arms could be sore from the other exercises I do too. I do a lot in two hours -- they are probably sore from a combination of exercises, not just this specific machine.
You keep talking about the technique and proper form and well, I'll never be able to do it the proper way unless you have the cure for spinal cord injuries in your pocket and feel like giving it to me --- I have to make do and use it the way I and my physical therapist see fit for me. You can talk about proper form to me until your blue in the face, but since I can't stand, not even a little bit -- proper form for this machine doesn't apply to me.
Until gyms around the country get proper accessible equipment I am adapting the best I can to the equipment they have. It's a different workout then I do at home and different muscles. It's all good for my body and health and that's what matters.
I just wanted to know what the machine was called. Not start a big hoopla disagreement on what/who is right and wrong.
The soreness in your arms could be from the other exercises you're doing but you did say you thought it was from that particular machine but anyway. Mind if I ask how you injured your spinal cord and how long ago it happened?
Kristi
03-24-2010, 07:13 PM
A virus called Transverse Myelitis attacked my spinal cord during a grand maul seizure I had during a Lupus relapse where the Lupus flared in my brain (it's been in every major organ except my heart since I was diagnosed at 10). I was 15 when it happened so half my life.
A virus called Transverse Myelitis attacked my spinal cord during a grand maul seizure I had during a Lupus relapse where the Lupus flared in my brain (it's been in every major organ except my heart since I was diagnosed at 10). I was 15 when it happened so half my life.
I'm sorry to hear about that Kristi. You sound like a strong minded person who's coping with it well under the circumstances. You're certainly not allowing your disability to stop you from being as active as you can.
Hostile
03-24-2010, 10:10 PM
I'm sorry to hear about that Kristi. You sound like a strong minded person who's coping with it well under the circumstances. You're certainly not allowing your disability to stop you from being as active as you can.She's wonderful.
Kristi
03-25-2010, 08:18 PM
Awww --- thanks Hos. I think you all are wonderful too!
CL -- you were right. It's called a Jammer. I'm getting stronger with everything as I'll probably bump up the weights on it again next week.
Here is my workout routine twice a week.
Warmup on the Heavy Bag. I like boxing this and my speed bag at home.
Get on the mat and get stretched by my PT.
Free weights on the mat on my stomach and on my back (5 different arm exercises).
Weight bar on the mat -- I think it was 45 lb.
Head dangling over the mat for tricep curls (almost slid off the mat and onto my head today -- gym pants and mat sometimes not a good combination)
Weight bar over my head in my chair with a spot - 25 lb.
Pull Down Bar (frontwards and backwards)
Lat Pull (frontwards and backwards)
Rotary Torso (today it smelled like armpits and tacos --- so gross! Deodorant is a wonderful invention people!)
Jammer
We are going to add a machine next week if we can find the belt for it so I can pull the weight out while wheeling. Be good for my trunk.
I want to add laps around the track, but I am so worn out after 2 hours of this! It's all a good hurt though.
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