Rather have Roberts that Tate

[UnoDallas]

Andre Roberts, The Citadel
Height: 5-11. Weight: 195.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44.
Combine 40 Time: 4.46.

Strengths:
Highly productive and consistent
Sneaky athletic
Has an intriguing second gear in open field
Savvy route runner
Understands how to set up corners
Simply doesn't drop the football - period
Very good sideline awareness
Nice footwork
Changes speeds, uses head fakes, dips hips - does the little things as a receiver
Comes back to the football and presents a window
Very competitive and fearless
Great Y.A.C. receiver
Love his hand-eye coordination
Terrific intangibles
Highly underrated skill set

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[CanuckCowboysFan]

LMFAO, I'm not even going to say anything

[UnoDallas]

go ahead you know your dieng to spew something

cause we would not have to reach for Roberts

Roberts will be better fit for the Cowboys

not going to bother me - my mind is made up already

[burmafrd]

how many plays did he make and against who?

[Gaede]

Tate's my favourite player in the draft and Roberts is my second...I don't think we're gonna have a chance at Tate, but Roberts we can pick up anywhere from the 2nd to 3rd.

He fits what we're looking for; really quick, shifty guy, great moves and a returner as well. He's a great prospect; only thing about him negative is the competition--but you can see from the tape that he's athetlic enough to play in the NFL, so it's just a matter of his route running (which, actually, was widely praised at the senior bowl).

[Eskimo]

He isn't very big and not a blazer for his size and played at a low level of competition.

I do like his hands as he catches the ball very cleanly and shows good ability to adjust to the ball in-flight. I like his ability to maintain concentration over the middle and in traffic. He also looks like he is a good return man.

I think he'd have to be a consideration in the 3rd round if he is still on the board. He seems to be a faster version of Crayton.

[casmith07]

I like what I see in the video. One thing you know about this guy coming out of the Citadel is that you'd have no character issues whatsoever.

how many plays did he make and against who?

How many plays did DeMarcus Ware make and against who?

How many plays did Jay Ratliff make and against who?

How many plays did Miles Austin make and against who?

How many plays did Patrick Crayton make and against who?

How many plays did Tony Romo make and against who?

How many plays did Mike Jenkins make and against who?

[ThreeSportStar80]

GREAT value pick, I'd be happy to take him in the 3rd round.

[CowboyFan74]

Starting to peak my interest, especially if he can be our return guy...

[jswalker1981]

I like what I see in the video. One thing you know about this guy coming out of the Citadel is that you'd have no character issues whatsoever.



How many plays did DeMarcus Ware make and against who?

How many plays did Jay Ratliff make and against who?

How many plays did Miles Austin make and against who?

How many plays did Patrick Crayton make and against who?

How many plays did Tony Romo make and against who?

How many plays did Mike Jenkins make and against who?


:bow:

[gmoney112]

I would not mind him at all in a later round. Didn't he tear up the Senior Bowl workouts?

[UnoDallas]

I would not mind him at all in a later round. Didn't he tear up the Senior Bowl workouts?


the Senior bowl

Andre Roberts, WR, The Citadel
WOW. I hadn't seen any of Roberts all year, but he destroyed Mobile. He showed crisp route running and solid athleticism, and he rarely dropped passes. The jump in competition didn't faze him and his stock is soaring. I think he is a likely third-round pick now. He doesn't have a high upside, but Roberts might be a solid No. 2 receiver in the league.

Andre Roberts excelled in today’s practice as well. The word is tossed around a lot this week, but Roberts really is a very fluid athlete. He has nice speed and runs precise routes

Andre Roberts should have probably received more praise earlier in the week. Roberts may be the best route runner here on either team and has been as consistent as anyone else. He hasn’t made too many explosive plays, but has left some top cornerbacks here looking foolish while he makes grabs with ease. I’ve heard comparisons to Derrick Mason and Steve Smith (NYG), both which I like very much

[UnoDallas]

Starting to peak my interest, especially if he can be our return guy...

thats what I use him for first couple years an work him in on a few at WR - Crayton's spot

12/27/2007: Signed a four-year, $14 million contract extension through 2011

Crayton is gome in 2012

[UnoDallas]

He isn't very big and not a blazer for his size and played at a low level of competition.

I do like his hands as he catches the ball very cleanly and shows good ability to adjust to the ball in-flight. I like his ability to maintain concentration over the middle and in traffic. He also looks like he is a good return man.

I think he'd have to be a consideration in the 3rd round if he is still on the board. He seems to be a faster version of Crayton.


he the same size as Tate

Golden Tate, Notre Dame
Height: 5-11. Weight: 202.
Projected 40 Time: 4.41.
Combine 40 Time: 4.36.

Andre Roberts, The Citadel
Height: 5-11. Weight: 195.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44.
Combine 40 Time: 4.46.
Vertical: . Broad: 10-0.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4

the third round is where I have him

[ThreeSportStar80]

I also like the punt return value he brings to the table... Hopefully Dallas has him on their draft board.

[gmoney112]

thats what I use him for first couple years an work him in on a few at WR - Crayton's spot

12/27/2007: Signed a four-year, $14 million contract extension through 2011

Crayton is gome in 2012

This is exactly what I was thinking. Future slot/punt returner. Groom him for 2 years and let him play. He has the tools. If Roy doesn't work out and Ogletree steps up, we'd have Miles/Ogletree/Roberts. That's a lot of speed on the field, and they all can use it to get seperation. That's a great WR combo if Roberts translates to the NFL well, which I think he will.

[Bob Sacamano]

I see no reason why Roberts couldn't line up outside in the future

5'11" is plenty tall enough. Heck DeSean Jackson lines up outside at the same height.

[gimmesix]

he the same size as Tate

Golden Tate, Notre Dame
Height: 5-11. Weight: 202.
Projected 40 Time: 4.41.
Combine 40 Time: 4.36.

Andre Roberts, The Citadel
Height: 5-11. Weight: 195.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44.
Combine 40 Time: 4.46.
Vertical: . Broad: 10-0.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4

the third round is where I have him

I'd prefer Tate because I think he's a special player with his speed and ability to break tackles at his size. He would allow us to put another player on the field who can really stretch the field as the slot receiver.

However, I have no problems taking Roberts or Central Michigan's Antonio Brown (who I really like) if we either can't get Tate or a better player falls to us in the first round.

I don't think No. 27 is a reach for Tate, though, so if Iupati or Thomas isn't there, I'd probably take him (depending on who else is available, of course).

[CanuckCowboysFan]

I see no reason why Roberts couldn't line up outside in the future

5'11" is plenty tall enough. Heck DeSean Jackson lines up outside at the same height.


no kidding, what is it with everyones obsession with putting everyone in the slot. All these guys are capable of playing out wide.

[gmoney112]

no kidding, what is it with everyones obsession with putting everyone in the slot. All these guys are capable of playing out wide.

Because Miles and Roy/Ogletree are the #1, #2 receivers. Will Edwards beat them out? Probably not.

[CanuckCowboysFan]

Because Miles and Roy/Ogletree are the #1, #2 receivers. Will Edwards beat them out? Probably not.

So what thats not my point. My point is all these guys are equally capable of playing out wide, but everyone has some obsession with putting them in the slot. If RW flops, Roberts can take over. KO can be in the slot. BTW who the hell is Edwards?

[gmoney112]

So what thats not my point. My point is all these guys are equally capable of playing out wide, but everyone has some obsession with putting them in the slot. If RW flops, Roberts can take over. KO can be in the slot. BTW who the hell is Edwards?

The point is your ******* said why are people obsessed with people putting them in the slot? I gave you the reason. He's not as tall as our receivers out wide, hes two inches shorter than Ogletree. The shorter/shiftier guys work the slot. That's how it works. Do you see a 5''11 170lb receiver out wide beating the press? Now stop being dumb.

[gimmesix]

So what thats not my point. My point is all these guys are equally capable of playing out wide, but everyone has some obsession with putting them in the slot. If RW flops, Roberts can take over. KO can be in the slot.

I think most people are obsessed with putting them in the slot for now, because of the starters being "set."

I know when I wrote about Tate as a slot receiver, that's what I meant. He'd come in this year and most likely play the slot, but eventually move into the No. 2 role.

They've got to start off somewhere and the slot is the most obvious spot for now. They can upgrade the speed at that position while working to gain a starting role.

[UnoDallas]

So what thats not my point. My point is all these guys are equally capable of playing out wide, but everyone has some obsession with putting them in the slot. If RW flops, Roberts can take over. KO can be in the slot. BTW who the hell is Edwards?

I am still wondering BTW who the hell is Edwards

[UnoDallas]

no kidding, what is it with everyones obsession with putting everyone in the slot. All these guys are capable of playing out wide.

perfect example Carolina - Steve Smith Height: 5 ft 9 in Weight: 185 lb

NYG Steve Smith Height: 5 ft 11 in Weight: 195 lb

[UnoDallas]

I'd prefer Tate because I think he's a special player with his speed and ability to break tackles at his size. He would allow us to put another player on the field who can really stretch the field as the slot receiver.

However, I have no problems taking Roberts or Central Michigan's Antonio Brown (who I really like) if we either can't get Tate or a better player falls to us in the first round.

I don't think No. 27 is a reach for Tate, though, so if Iupati or Thomas isn't there, I'd probably take him (depending on who else is available, of course).

well we all perfer Tate - but Roberts an Brown are more likely
JMO

[ThreeSportStar80]

I am still wondering BTW who the hell is Edwards


:laugh2: I was wondering the same...

[UnoDallas]

Antonio Brown - Central Mich. (HT: 5-10⅛ - WT: 186 - 40: 4.54)
Projection: 5th Round

Positives: Electrifying player, is a real game-changer in the same mold as Santana Moss... Very good return man, averaged 9.4 yards per punt return, including two touchdowns, and had a kickoff for a score in the GMAC Bowl... Productive, has 301 career receptions in three seasons for 3,176 yards and 22 TD... Can be a threat on running plays as well, 8.1 rushing average and 3 TD on 42 attempts out of the Wildcat, reverses, etc.... Runs good routes, has great hands to catch anything thrown his way, would be a good slot WR to work the middle of the field and utilize his elusiveness after the catch... Very dangerous after he catches the ball, very explosive.

Negatives: Needs to get stronger, might currently be unable to compete with NFL defensive backs... Has not seen the speed of NFL caliber defenses coming from the MAC, has been shut down to the tune of 24 catches for 181 yards in his last four games vs. BCS opponents... Not real physical, won't be able to win against press coverages on the outside... Because of his small frame, won't have much of an impact as a blocker

[gmoney112]

I am still wondering BTW who the hell is Edwards

I meant Roberts.

[gimmesix]

well we all perfer Tate - but Roberts an Brown are more likely
JMO

Depends on how it falls. I think all things being equal, we take an offensive lineman or safety in the first. But if those options are out, then I can see Jerry picking Tate because of his return ability and ability to stretch the field.

We'd be foolish to reach for a position of greater need to pass on a superior talent.

If we do get an offensive linemen in the first, then that opens things up for Dexter McCluster, Roberts, Jacoby Ford, Brown ... the types who can return kicks/punts while also attempting to contribute as game breakers in the passing game.

[jobberone]

McCluster appears as fast as Ford is on the football field. Ford doesn't run routes really well and has never had to run a tree. Roberts is slower than those two but runs better routes from what I've seen and esp what I'm hearing. Roberts is not as quick as McCluster.

I'd take any of the three although I'd prefer McCluster first. I can't separate the speed of Ford from the routes of Roberts. Both will go in the third at least. McC will go in the second probably before we pick unless we move up far enough.

[Chocolate Lab]

One thing you know about this guy coming out of the Citadel is that you'd have no character issues whatsoever.
Amen to that. Just another reason why some of us have been talking about him for a while. ;)

The part about route running is key. What we lack right now is that guy with the quickness to really create separation out of his breaks. Maybe Roberts could be that guy -- and wouldn't require a high draft pick, either.

But I hate diva WRs so much... At least Tate wouldn't be one, either, I don't think.

And I don't know why, but every time I see just "Tate", I think of Brandon. Guess I'm stuck in last year. Or that's what you get with a first name like "Golden".

[gimmesix]

McCluster appears as fast as Ford is on the football field. Ford doesn't run routes really well and has never had to run a tree. Roberts is slower than those two but runs better routes from what I've seen and esp what I'm hearing. Roberts is not as quick as McCluster.

I'd take any of the three although I'd prefer McCluster first. I can't separate the speed of Ford from the routes of Roberts. Both will go in the third at least. McC will go in the second probably before we pick unless we move up far enough.

I wouldn't want to take Ford until the bottom of the third because of the issues with his route-running and inconsistent hands. He will be a work in progress because of those things.

But his speed can help us on returns in the meantime.

[CowboyFan74]

thats what I use him for first couple years an work him in on a few at WR - Crayton's spot

12/27/2007: Signed a four-year, $14 million contract extension through 2011

Crayton is gome in 2012


Any chance he falls to the 4rth?

[UnoDallas]

Any chance he falls to the 4rth?

who knows - I think not with the showing he had at the senior bowl

an we draft so late in the 3rd it might as well be the 4 th

2009: Roberts was a finalist for the Walter Payton Award for the second consecutive season, finishing 18th overall,and he was presented with more honors to add to his extensive collegiate resume, he was named to The Sports Network All-America third team as a punt return specialist, was named to both The State and the Post and Courier newspapers' All-Decade teams at wide receiver. Also earning Southern Conference first team honors at both wide receiver and return specialist, and he finished first in the SoCon and sixth in the nation in punt return average in 2009, after earning the national title and first team All-America honors in 2008. Roberts wrapped up his collegiate career at The Citadel holding school records for single-game catches (14), single-game punt returns (8), season catches (95), season receiving yards (1,334), season punt return yards (461), career catches (285), career receiving yards (3,743), and career punt return yards (1,160). He also ranks second all-time in the conference for catches and receiving yards in a career and fourth in punt return yards in a career

2008: Roberts had an astonishing 95 receptions, 1,334 yards and 14 TDs in a breakout year. His career totals of: 209 grabs for 2,951 yards and 29 TDs attest to his talent as does his track career. At the Furman Invitational 2007 he finished third in the 400m, running 50.91, also at Furman, finished second in the 200m with a time of 23.49... ran a personal-best 200m time of 23.05 at the Chanticleer Invitational (4/14)... finished fifth in his preliminary heat of the 200m at the Southern Conference Championships (4/21), running 23.29.
Roberts ran the anchor leg of the 4x100m relay that ran 41.94 at the Southern Conference Championships (4/22), garnering All-Conference honors, he ran the anchor leg of the 4x100m relay team that won at the Penn Relays for the fifth-consecutive time in Citadel history, earning his first Penn Relays Championship watch.
Strengths

Both quick and fast, like Dillard plays bigger that he is; great character, a hard worker and was a captain this year. He's definitely a vertical threat with elite ability as a return specialist. He is a generally a good route runner who can make the first person miss and does a good job of getting up field, he has impressive body control, solid ball skills and above average hands and can use his shiftiness to avoid the jam through subtle angling. Despite his size he is unafraid of the middle of the field.
Weaknesses

Small frame and can be muscled, also he could work on showing the QB his numbers on in-breaking and crossing routes. He is not a factor as a down field as a blocker, not for lack of willingness but his technique and leg drive need improvement.
Projection

Possible early to mid 2nd day selection whe based on another great year and a combine invitation, he could keep climbing. He is very similar to Santonio Holmes in stature and upside.