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hendog
01-30-2005, 04:13 PM
who do you think the players are on our board that JJ and BP feel are worth the #11 pick?


QB's Rogers or Smith - If one of them is there do we dare?

RB's Benson,Cadillac or Brown - Just asking?

WR's Big Mike or Braylon - Real possibility I think.

LB's DJ or Merriman - Another real possibility I believe.

DE's Spears or another - Maybe after the week he had at Mobile.

CB's Rolle or Jones - Maybe Rolle if you stay true to your board & he is BPA.

OL's Barron - Would they take a probable starter @ RT?

My gut tells me that DJ or Merriman,Mike or Braylon or Alex Barron would be the choice.OT wouldn't be a very sexy pick but if we don't add a starting caliber OT in FA then I wouldn't doubt it. BP has no choice but to upgrade Both sides of our line.

If they're sure about Henson then I say the pick is

Mike Williams



What 'ya think?

Hostile
01-30-2005, 04:17 PM
who do you think the players are on our board that JJ and BP feel are worth the #11 pick?


QB's Rogers or Smith - If one of them is there do we dare?

RB's Benson,Cadillac or Brown - Just asking?

WR's Big Mike or Braylon - Real possibility I think.

LB's DJ or Merriman - Another real possibility I believe.

DE's Spears or another - Maybe after the week he had at Mobile.

CB's Rolle or Jones - Maybe Rolle if you stay true to your board & he is BPA.

OL's Barron - Would they take a probable starter @ RT?

My gut tells me that DJ or Merriman,Mike or Braylon or Alex Barron would be the choice.OT wouldn't be a very sexy pick but if we don't add a starting caliber OT in FA then I wouldn't doubt it. BP has no choice but to upgrade Both sides of our line.

If they're sure about Henson then I say the pick is

Mike Williams



What 'ya think?I think both QBs will be gone in the top 5. If one isn't then we trade down with some team wanting one of them.

Mike Williams or Derrick Johnson would be my hopeful choice but I won't be shocked if I am deeply disappointed.

Pay attention to Marcus Spears because the Cowboys certainly are.

Q_the_man
01-30-2005, 04:29 PM
If Mike Williams is there at #11, I would literally cry if we passed on him.

Seriously, I would trade up to get him forget what we need if we can part ways with maybe coakley and a 2nd next season plus the#11 to move up to the #8 spot I would be the happiest fan in the world....

If williams is gone I guess we can trade down 5 or 6 times, Because anything after that would assure me we would be going into next season we 3 injure WRs, Glenn, Johnson and Morgan, which would be like wacthing a CFL team or Europe team.......the all geritol team

Sarge
01-30-2005, 04:38 PM
I think both QBs will be gone in the top 5. If one isn't then we trade down with some team wanting one of them.

Mike Williams or Derrick Johnson would be my hopeful choice but I won't be shocked if I am deeply disappointed.

Pay attention to Marcus Spears because the Cowboys certainly are.

If we take Spears at 11 - I will kill someone.

diehard2294
01-30-2005, 04:45 PM
If we take Spears at 11 - I will kill someone.I agree I wouldn't take spears with the 11th, I dont know about killing anyone though Sarge
:p I believe we might be in the situation whether to take the best athlete or a position need this year.

Reed
01-30-2005, 04:47 PM
Parcells loves possesion recievers. That's what mike wiliams is. He is like a keyshawn johnson but taller bigger and faster. They both went to usc and maybe keyshawn can teach him the ropes, if we get him hopefully.

ghst187
01-30-2005, 04:48 PM
If we take Spears at 11 - I will kill someone.

that's my biggest fear too...now if we're bent on drafting him I won't mind a great trade-down and pick up an extra second or third and then taking Spears in the late teens of round 1, but at 11.....NOOOOOOOOOO. We don't have a good history of drafting DEs. I don't even care if we use both our firsts to draft Spears and Merriman but if that's the case, i want an extra second or third pick from a trade down to do it.
But Mike Williams and Rolle are the headlines on my wish list.

dargonking999
01-30-2005, 04:50 PM
who do you think the players are on our board that JJ and BP feel are worth the #11 pick?


QB's Rogers or Smith - If one of them is there do we dare?

RB's Benson,Cadillac or Brown - Just asking?

WR's Big Mike or Braylon - Real possibility I think.

LB's DJ or Merriman - Another real possibility I believe.

DE's Spears or another - Maybe after the week he had at Mobile.

CB's Rolle or Jones - Maybe Rolle if you stay true to your board & he is BPA.

OL's Barron - Would they take a probable starter @ RT?

My gut tells me that DJ or Merriman,Mike or Braylon or Alex Barron would be the choice.OT wouldn't be a very sexy pick but if we don't add a starting caliber OT in FA then I wouldn't doubt it. BP has no choice but to upgrade Both sides of our line.

If they're sure about Henson then I say the pick is

Mike Williams



What 'ya think?


'im tired of drafting QB's we have our RB we dont need another "star" RB

WR we can get in FA or 2-4

i say we either get spears or merriman

Sarge
01-30-2005, 04:52 PM
I agree I wouldn't take spears with the 11th, I dont know about killing anyone though Sarge
:p I believe we might be in the situation whether to take the best athlete or a position need this year.

I'm not kidding - we take Spears at 11 - someone's goin' down.

NO WAY.

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jimmy40
01-30-2005, 04:53 PM
who do you think the players are on our board that JJ and BP feel are worth the #11 pick?


QB's Rogers or Smith - If one of them is there do we dare?

RB's Benson,Cadillac or Brown - Just asking?

WR's Big Mike or Braylon - Real possibility I think.

LB's DJ or Merriman - Another real possibility I believe.

DE's Spears or another - Maybe after the week he had at Mobile.

CB's Rolle or Jones - Maybe Rolle if you stay true to your board & he is BPA.

OL's Barron - Would they take a probable starter @ RT?

My gut tells me that DJ or Merriman,Mike or Braylon or Alex Barron would be the choice.OT wouldn't be a very sexy pick but if we don't add a starting caliber OT in FA then I wouldn't doubt it. BP has no choice but to upgrade Both sides of our line.

If they're sure about Henson then I say the pick is

Mike Williams



What 'ya think?Just remember one thing. Parcells #1 goal as far as personel this year was to replace Coakley with Bradie James. Didn't happen. Do you think he's given up? Not a chance. How about replacing him with someone faster and 6 inches taller?

Bullet22
01-30-2005, 04:53 PM
The draft will depend on who we get in free agency...

Hostile
01-30-2005, 04:53 PM
I'm not kidding - we take Spears at 11 - someone's goin' down.

NO WAY.

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/waffen/violent-smiley-014.gifI hope you're right. Parcells worries me.

jimmy40
01-30-2005, 04:54 PM
I'm not kidding - we take Spears at 11 - someone's goin' down.

NO WAY.

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/waffen/violent-smiley-014.gifI'll swear in court that you were with me shooting pool at the time.

Hostile
01-30-2005, 04:54 PM
I'll swear in court that you were with me shooting pool at the time.I'll second that. All about the alibi.

blindzebra
01-30-2005, 05:00 PM
No DE is a good pick at #11, but I'd take Spears or Roth at #20.

maloy
01-30-2005, 05:06 PM
take the best player available. real simple.

Sarge
01-30-2005, 05:09 PM
take the best player available. real simple.

..and it's also real simple that Spears will not be the BPA at #11.

jimmy40
01-30-2005, 05:09 PM
..and it's also real simple that Spears will not be the BPA at #11.Doesn't get more simple.

dargonking999
01-30-2005, 05:11 PM
..and it's also real simple that Spears will not be the BPA at #11.


lets say this
the best player availble for us. And this is not a strong class so....you never know

Sarge
01-30-2005, 05:12 PM
lets say this
the best player availble for us. And this is not a strong class so....you never know

No matter HOW the draft unfolds - Spears is not the BPA at 11 - PERIOD.

Cbz40
01-30-2005, 05:19 PM
8T + 3F = 11 and the square root of 11 = Derrick Johnson
Mike Williams

Simple

dargonking999
01-30-2005, 05:21 PM
8T + 3F = 11 and the square root of 11 = Derrick Johnson
Mike Williams

Simple


intresting math. ...hmm very intresting indeed :cool:

Sarge
01-30-2005, 05:21 PM
8T + 3F = 11 and the square root of 11 = Derrick Johnson
Mike Williams

Simple

Quite possibly your best post ever.
;)

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Sarge
01-30-2005, 05:22 PM
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Spears at #11



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StateCollegeCowboy
01-30-2005, 05:32 PM
No matter HOW the draft unfolds - Spears is not the BPA at 11 - PERIOD.

Every year some player shoots up the draft boards that shouldn't. Spears looks like the early favorite this year for that role.

If he does really well at the combine (from what I've heard, that won't be too hard) then he very well could be picked before #11.

Either way, I would be afraid Sarge. Be very very afraid.

Rack Bauer
01-30-2005, 05:32 PM
If we take Spears at 11 - I will kill someone.


I'll help you. I'll the the person down, you stab 'em in the eyeball with a dirty spoon.

Seriously, we don't need to take Spears at #11 when he'll probably be available at #20, or possibly even the second round. If not, there's always Shaun Cody.


'im tired of drafting QB's we have our RB we dont need another "star" RB


Tired of drafting QBs? We haven't drafted a QB in the first round in 15 years. You still tired from that?



No matter HOW the draft unfolds - Spears is not the BPA at 11 - PERIOD.


Exactly. Not unless 30 some odd players somehow get drafted in the first 10 picks.


If he does really well at the combine (from what I've heard, that won't be too hard) then he very well could be picked before #11.


I sure as hell hope so.

dargonking999
01-30-2005, 05:36 PM
Tired of drafting QBs? We haven't drafted a QB in the first round in 15 years. You still tired from that





let me say this, 'im tired of gettting QB after QB i say we give henson this year to play. if he doesnt he must not be the QB for parcells then we go get us another one. but right now we need to stick to one QB untill we see if he can play or not

Rack Bauer
01-30-2005, 05:37 PM
let me say this, 'im tired of gettting QB after QB i say we give henson this year to play. if he doesnt he must not be the QB for parcells then we go get us another one. but right now we need to stick to one QB untill we see if he can play or not


I agree with that. I'm not saying I'd want one of those QBs, just wondering how someone can be tired of doing something we rarely ever do.

I wouldn't mind taking a look at Jason Campbell or Charlie Fry in the 2nd though.

Sarge
01-30-2005, 05:42 PM
Seriously, we don't need to take Spears at #11 when he'll probably be available at #20, or possibly even the second round. If not, there's always Shaun Cody..

Agreed. I don't even want him at 20 but I wouldn't kill anyone over it. Possibly break some bones or something, or some form of moderate torture.

I can see Spears honestly dipping into the early second round.

ghettogandhi
01-30-2005, 06:22 PM
With the 10th pick Ill take either Derrick Johnson-best defensive player in this draft-/Mike Williams then at
20 I ll take either Shawn Merriman or Troy Williamson and finally in the second with the
42nd pick I ll take Chris Canty or Jason Campbell-dont think JC will be there though

Of course if a stud olineman appears we could always use one of those-especially with jacobs hurt and peterman coming back from an injury.


I think both QBs will be gone in the top 5. If one isn't then we trade down with some team wanting one of them.

Mike Williams or Derrick Johnson would be my hopeful choice but I won't be shocked if I am deeply disappointed.

Pay attention to Marcus Spears because the Cowboys certainly are.

Howboutdemcowboys31
01-30-2005, 07:03 PM
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Spears at #11



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haha your really dont like this guy huh? If I could get anyone, it would be derrick johnson or Mike Williams with the 11th pick. Then draft a DT with our 20th pick and move glover to de (3-4 defense)

Bobo
01-30-2005, 10:27 PM
Both Spears and Cody may be gone at 20, especially with SD and Houston picking before that. But maybe Hawthorne is still there, and surely some of the 3-4 olb types would be too. And maybe Travis Johnson could fit in as a 3-4 end?

Derinyar
01-31-2005, 12:03 AM
haha your really dont like this guy huh? If I could get anyone, it would be derrick johnson or Mike Williams with the 11th pick. Then draft a DT with our 20th pick and move glover to de (3-4 defense)
What is this boards obsession with turing a speed guy into a space filler?

nathanlt
01-31-2005, 08:53 AM
Every year some player shoots up the draft boards that shouldn't. Spears looks like the early favorite this year for that role.

If he does really well at the combine (from what I've heard, that won't be too hard) then he very well could be picked before #11.

Either way, I would be afraid Sarge. Be very very afraid.

Players that shoot up the draft board that shouldn't, that's due to performance not related to football talent, such as combine events. Things like a shuttle run or a bench press repetitions. A mediocre football player who can bench press 225 35 times is still a mediocre football player. That is, except in draft guru world.

InmanRoshi
01-31-2005, 10:34 AM
Spears was regarded on most Top 10 lists heading into the season. Most people projected him as a first round pick if he had declared last year (in a much stronger draft). The last 290 lb. defensive end who was a former tight end and basketball star to come out in the draft was the #1 overall pick.

I just don't think he's suddenly springboarding up the charts. He's just cementing his place.

I would have no problem taking Spears at #11. We need an outside pass rushing DE, but if there is one thing this draft isn't lacking is late-1st/2nd round tweener pass rushers. Roth, Swancutt, Tuck, Merriman, Pollack, Ware, Blastock. Most likely several of them will be there in the 2nd round, or you could take the cream of the crop at #20.