heres a novel idea for the Mavs

[UnoDallas]

sign LeBron - an trade Dirk for a big man

Championship

com on Cuben use some of that money

[Biggems]

sign LeBron - an trade Dirk for a big man

Championship

com on Cuben use some of that money


Oden might be available :lmao2:

[Biggems]

or even better

just accept being Texas' NBA version of the Philadelphia Eagles......:laugh1:

[MegaMagick]

or even better

just accept being Texas' NBA version of the Philadelphia Eagles......:laugh1:

..And just how many championships do the spurs have?

Oh that's right, no one cares.

Also, no trade dirk.

[UnoDallas]

Dirk is such a cry baby man I don't watch any more because of his whining

[UnoDallas]

Biggems not a fan of the Mavs - but Cuban has the money - he made a billion for selling yahoo - he just buy LeBron an trade WHINEY DIRK for a good big man - I like Stoultmire of Phenoix

you can tell I not a faan anymore

but still love my Celtics kicked some *** tonight

[Christiann]

Biggems not a fan of the Mavs - but Cuban has the money - he made a billion for selling yahoo - he just buy LeBron an trade WHINEY DIRK for a good big man - I like Stoultmire of Phenoix

you can tell I not a faan anymore

but still love my Celtics kicked some *** tonight

I think Lebron is going to Chicago, that would be beast I'd hate to say, Rose, Noah, Hinrich, and Lebron? ****

[Danny White]

sign LeBron - an trade Dirk for a big man

Championship

com on Cuben use some of that money

Money has absolutely nothing to do with it.

LeBron is getting a Max contract regardless of where he signs, so Cuban's money means squat.

And by going to a market like New York, he's probably guaranteeing himself even more endorsement money, if that's even possible.

[Danny White]

..And just how many championships do the spurs have?

Oh that's right, no one cares.

Also, no trade dirk.

bitter

[SkinsandTerps]

I think Phoenix actually has some cap space. That would be more likely.

[Biggems]

..And just how many championships do the spurs have?

Oh that's right, no one cares.

Also, no trade dirk.


way to come across as sounding like an Eagles fan.....

BTW, Spurs have 4 Championships....The Spurs are the Cowboys, The Rockets are the Giants/Skins.....and the Mavs are the hapless Eagles.

Oh and believe me, Spurs, Suns, Mavs, Knicks, Nets, Pistons, and Cavs fans all care that the Spurs have 4 rings. You are lying if you say it doesnt upset you that our little podunk city has the best basketball in Texas........

GO SPURS GO

[DallasCowpoke]

Biggems not a fan of the Mavs - but Cuban has the money - he made a billion for selling yahoo

Mark Cuban invented Yahoo!? News to me.

[Maikeru-sama]

way to come across as sounding like an Eagles fan.....

BTW, Spurs have 4 Championships....The Spurs are the Cowboys, The Rockets are the Giants/Skins.....and the Mavs are the hapless Eagles.

Oh and believe me, Spurs, Suns, Mavs, Knicks, Nets, Pistons, and Cavs fans all care that the Spurs have 4 rings. You are lying if you say it doesnt upset you that our little podunk city has the best basketball in Texas........

GO SPURS GO

You guys got lucky that David Robinson got hurt one year and it allowed you to get Tim Duncan.

And you won one of those championships during a shortened season.

[kev8822]

sign LeBron - an trade Dirk for a big man

Championship

com on Cuben use some of that money


Mavs don't have the cap space to sign LBJ

[Hostile]

I assume LeBron James is the best basketball player in the NBA by now. I have no idea if he is or not. I think I saw where he won the MVP. Has he won it before? Again, I don't know. Maybe Kobe is considered the best. Again, don't know.

Unless Cleveland has won a title with him (I don't think they have) I wouldn't go anywhere else to try and make a franchise into a power. He can do that by staying where he is and winning in his home state.

If he is intent on moving because of titles it seems like he needs to go to Boston or Los Angeles.

If he is looking for marketability Los Angeles, New York or Chicago might be preferable. I remember one time reading that he was a Bulls fan and wears 23 because of Michael Jordan.

The only reason to go to Dallas is because he is a Cowboys fan. :D

[Biggems]

You guys got lucky that David Robinson got hurt one year and it allowed you to get Tim Duncan.

And you won one of those championships during a shortened season.

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

we won the lottery twice. may have been luck, but we won it. btw, I wouldnt call having David get hurt a lucky thing. Sean was also hurt that year. Actually my favorite part of that year was having Dominique Wilkins play for us. He is one of my all-time favorites. He looked damn good in Silver and Black.

last time i checked, every team in the league played during the shortened season.....we won. we also won 3 more times in complete seasons.

the facts are this. Aside from the Lakers, the Spurs are the only other team to make the playoffs at least 30 times since the mid 70s. The Spurs have only missed the postseason 4 times, and have only had 2 losing seasons. If not for the debacle of 1978, when they choked away a 3-1 series lead to Washington, the Spurs could be either the only team, or one of very few teams to have won a Championship while a part of either conference. They were in the East when they first entered the NBA.

The have 4 Championships in 4 appearances. Only the Celtics, Lakers, and Bulls have more Championships (all large market teams). They have the 2nd best all-time winning % in NBA history....Lakers being 1st, Celtics being 3rd. We are also, the only ABA team to win an NBA Championship....Nets 0-2, Pacers 0-1, Nuggets 0-0.

So considering that in the mid 70s, we were just a podunk city in south central Texas....with no real media market to speak off....we have done pretty well for ourselves. We are still a small media market. We are still unattractive to potential free agents. We still have to live by a tight budget.....we definitely do not have the resources the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, and Knicks have.....yet look at us.....one of the top 3-4 franchises in the history of the league.....

Lucky, good, blessed....all 3.....and damn proud of it.

GO SPURS GO

[Jed_70]

One of the Mavs main problems is they never value good role players.

They refuse to keep a couple of good hustle and defensive players on the roster for long periods of time.

Pretty much every championship team has a guy or two on the roster that does the dirty work; the Mavs will rarely keep guys like that on the roster.

[UnoDallas]

Mark Cuban invented Yahoo!? News to me.

In 1995, Cuban and fellow Indiana University alumnus Todd Wagner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Wagner) started Audionet, combining their mutual interest in college basketball and webcasting. With a single server and an ISDN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Services_Digital_Network) line[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban#cite_note-21), Audionet became Broadcast.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast.com) in 1998. By 1999, Broadcast.com had grown to 330 employees and $13.5 million in revenue for the second quarter.[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban#cite_note-22) In 1999, during the Dot-com boom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble), Broadcast.com was acquired by Yahoo! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!) for $5.9 billion in Yahoo! stock.

[UnoDallas]

One of the Mavs main problems is they never value good role players.

They refuse to keep a couple of good hustle and defensive players on the roster for long periods of time.

Pretty much every championship team has a guy or two on the roster that does the dirty work; the Mavs will rarely keep guys like that on the roster.

one problem is they don't a Big man that is worth his weight - then they trade for Jason Kidd you gotta be kidding me

if they got one in a trade for Dirk - I think Cuban could swing a deal for Amare Stoudemire and

then get out an buy LeBron

[CATCH17]

One of the Mavs main problems is they never value good role players.

They refuse to keep a couple of good hustle and defensive players on the roster for long periods of time.

Pretty much every championship team has a guy or two on the roster that does the dirty work; the Mavs will rarely keep guys like that on the roster.

The Mavs would've been a lot better at the 2 guard spot had they kept Raja Bell early in his career.

He played to much defense for Nelly though.

[zrinkill]

bitter

Very ...

[zrinkill]

You guys got lucky that David Robinson got hurt one year and it allowed you to get Tim Duncan.

And you won one of those championships during a shortened season.


So the players should have been even more rested ..... whats your point?

[Danny White]

You guys got lucky that David Robinson got hurt one year and it allowed you to get Tim Duncan.

And you won one of those championships during a shortened season.

All teams have luck... some of it good, some of it bad. You just have to roll with the opportunities when they come.

Were the Mavs "lucky" that they were able to trade a turd draft pick in Tractor Traylor for a future hall-of-famer in Dirk? Where would the Mavs be today if they'd have kept their original pick? (well, they'd probably still have no championships, but they'd suck a lot worse)

I think the shortened season does have a small asterisk next to it (as all strike shortened seasons do), but I think that asterisk grew smaller and smaller with each subsequent championship the Spurs won... proving they were a team worthy being called "the best". You could also make an argument that the strike hurt the Spurs as a full season would have given a very young Tim Duncan more time to learn and develop.

[DallasCowpoke]

In 1995, Cuban and fellow Indiana University alumnus Todd Wagner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Wagner) started Audionet, combining their mutual interest in college basketball and webcasting. With a single server and an ISDN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Services_Digital_Network) line[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban#cite_note-21), Audionet became Broadcast.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast.com) in 1998. By 1999, Broadcast.com had grown to 330 employees and $13.5 million in revenue for the second quarter.[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban#cite_note-22) In 1999, during the Dot-com boom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble), Broadcast.com was acquired by Yahoo! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo%21) for $5.9 billion in Yahoo! stock.

Hey . Ya MIGHT wanna reread your original post. Pay CLOSE attention to the bold parts in BOTH quotes.

Biggems not a fan of the Mavs - but Cuban has the money - he made a billion for selling yahoo

Sing it with me now.... "1 of these things, is not like the other...."

[Avaj]

Hmm...someone else was thinking this

http://www.lebrontothemavs.com/

[Biggems]

All teams have luck... some of it good, some of it bad. You just have to roll with the opportunities when they come.

Were the Mavs "lucky" that they were able to trade a turd draft pick in Tractor Traylor for a future hall-of-famer in Dirk? Where would the Mavs be today if they'd have kept their original pick? (well, they'd probably still have no championships, but they'd suck a lot worse)

I think the shortened season does have a small asterisk next to it (as all strike shortened seasons do), but I think that asterisk grew smaller and smaller with each subsequent championship the Spurs won... proving they were a team worthy being called "the best". You could also make an argument that the strike hurt the Spurs as a full season would have given a very young Tim Duncan more time to learn and develop.


good post.....

i find it rather comical how the same Cowboys fans that bash the Eagles, will sit there and make excuses for the Mavs....and even call out the best professional basketball team the state of Texas has ever produced.

Dont call the Spurs lucky...call me Lucky.....cause aside from the Astros and TAMU-CC Islanders, all of my favorite teams have won multiple championships. In fact, all of them are the best Texas team in their sport too, aside from the Penguins (my only non-Texas favorite team). Cowboys, Spurs, and Longhorns are far better than any other team in the state over the history of their existence. The Astros are better than the Rangers....as far as overall record goes, plus the Astros have at least played in the World Series (getting swept).....And even though both Texas baseball teams are nothing but giant turds....at least the Astros history doesn't smell quite as bad as the Rangers. As far as my Islanders go, the won the Southland Conference a few years ago, in their first season in the conference...and made it to March Madness, before bowing out to Wisconsin in the first round.

So call me lucky....afterall, instead of being born and raised in South Texas, I could have been born and raised in Cleveland:puke:

[SLATEmosphere]

Grow up Peter Pan.

LeBron is staying with Cleveland and Bosh is coming on over too.

dyNASTY.

[Biggems]

Grow up Peter Pan.

LeBron is staying with Cleveland and Bosh is coming on over too.

dyNASTY.

wow i guess the ban was lifted.....I hope LeChoke stays in Cleveland.....that sesspool of winlessness suits him just fine.

[rkstevens]

Grow up Peter Pan.

LeBron is staying with Cleveland and Bosh is coming on over too.

dyNASTY.

Won't happen. Next season's salary cap is projected to be $56.1 million. The Cavs are already at $66 million for next season which includes Lebron's $17 million player option which he obviously won't exercise, leaving them at $49 million. That would give the Cavs $7 million to sign a player but they could only do it BEFORE Lebron re-signs if he chooses to. No way Bosh or any other player his caliber is coming to Cleveland of all places for $7 million when they will be able to get a max contract elsewhere. Plus, a free agent would be stupid to sign with the Cavs with no assurance that Lebron would be back. Don't forget that every dollar over the salary cap is a one for one luxury tax so they'd have to pay that too.

At best the Cavs would re-sign Lebron and pick up a piece or two with the mid-level exception or bi-annual exception (assuming they have it). Or they could always try to pull off another salary cap-circumventing trade like they did with Ilgauskas/Jamison. Maybe then they can get out of the second round... Good to see that cheating got them nowhere.

[Bob Sacamano]

Grow up Peter Pan.

LeBron is staying with Cleveland and Bosh is coming on over too.

dyNASTY.

Don't you actually have to win a Championship 1st in order to look forward to a dynasty?

[SLATEmosphere]

Won't happen. Next season's salary cap is projected to be $56.1 million. The Cavs are already at $66 million for next season which includes Lebron's $17 million player option which he obviously won't exercise, leaving them at $49 million. That would give the Cavs $7 million to sign a player but they could only do it BEFORE Lebron re-signs if he chooses to. No way Bosh or any other player his caliber is coming to Cleveland of all places for $7 million when they will be able to get a max contract elsewhere. Plus, a free agent would be stupid to sign with the Cavs with no assurance that Lebron would be back. Don't forget that every dollar over the salary cap is a one for one luxury tax so they'd have to pay that too.

At best the Cavs would re-sign Lebron and pick up a piece or two with the mid-level exception or bi-annual exception (assuming they have it). Or they could always try to pull off another salary cap-circumventing trade like they did with Ilgauskas/Jamison. Maybe then they can get out of the second round... Good to see that cheating got them nowhere.

You sound like a hater so your opinion means nothing.

Hickson,Jamison,Mo,Delonte and Eyenga will do it for Bosh and Calderon. Bosh has already commanded a sign and trade. The Raptors were etxremely high on Eyenga in the draft. They want to get rid of Calderons contract and AJ,Mo and Delonte have very few years till they expire. Not to mention Hickson and Eyenga costs next to nothing for a few more years.

The roster would be pretty depleted but you could fill that roster with D-leagers if you had LeBron and Bosh and still rattle off championships

[SLATEmosphere]

Don't you actually have to win a Championship 1st in order to look forward to a dynasty?

I dunno. People asked that about Jordan his first 7 years in the league.

[Bob Sacamano]

I dunno. People asked that about Jordan his first 7 years in the league.

Did people say anything about a dynasty during those 7 years?

[UnoDallas]

Cuban goes public with quest for James

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5205952


"Come July 1st, yeah, of course, anybody would be interested in LeBron James, and if he leaves via free agency, then it's going to be tough," Cuban said. "If he does like I'm guessing, hoping he will, which is say, 'I'm not going to leave the Cavs high and dry,' if he decides to leave -- there's still a better chance he stays -- then he'll try to force a sign-and-trade, and that gives us a chance."

Dallas' interest in pursuing a sign-and-trade deal for James has been the subject of speculation for months, but Cuban's comments are believed to be his first public acknowledgment of that plan.

[kev8822]

LMAO @ Bosh doing a S+T to Cleveland. No big name free agent wants to go to the mos depressing city in america. Cleveland can't even get MLE guys to go there, but they can convince a star too? The cavs struck out on Villanueva, Artest, Ariza, Rasheed. Had to settle for Jamrio Moon, and Anthony Parker.

It will never happen.

[SLATEmosphere]

Did people say anything about a dynasty during those 7 years?

I have no idea what message boards said in 1989(since they didn't exist) but I bet if they did they would say the same thing if Jordan ever got some legit superstar to join him.

And they would be right.

[Danny White]

LMAO @ Bosh doing a S+T to Cleveland. No big name free agent wants to go to the mos depressing city in america. Cleveland can't even get MLE guys to go there, but they can convince a star too? The cavs struck out on Villanueva, Artest, Ariza, Rasheed. Had to settle for Jamrio Moon, and Anthony Parker.

It will never happen.

You're just hating... hater. :p:

[SLATEmosphere]

You're just hating... hater. :p:

Haters in theee building!

[Biggems]

Haters in theee building!


if being a realist = being a hater....then I am a hater.

Cleveland sucks.....I dont care how many wins they get in the regular season, until they win a ring, they suck. LeChoke will continue to fail in the postseason, cause he doesn't have the stones to be a true leader of men.

Why did Jordan become so successful.........cause he was slighted in HS, he was slighted in college, and then he got injured early in the NBA...that made him angry at the world and he felt like he had something to prove....dont believe me, just listen to his HOF speech. He is still angry.

James has been coddled and handed everything since before his Prep School days. He has lived the silver platter lifestyle.....so he never learned early on how to deal with adversity. Because of this, his stones never grew enough to help him overcome those mountains that block his path.

Call me a hater all you want, but my boy Colt will win a ring for Cleveland before LeChoke does.

[zrinkill]

I dunno. People asked that about Jordan his first 7 years in the league.

The fact that you compare Lebron to Michael Jordan shows anywon who knows anything about basketball all they need to be shown about your "opinion".

[SLATEmosphere]

The fact that you compare Lebron to Michael Jordan shows anywon who knows anything about basketball all they need to be shown about your "opinion".

Why? Jordan didn't become "Jordan" until he got some real help.

I think it's a very fair comparison as we speak. Give it some time. Look at their accomplishments and numbers at this same time in their careers.

[SLATEmosphere]

if being a realist = being a hater....then I am a hater.

Cleveland sucks.....I dont care how many wins they get in the regular season, until they win a ring, they suck. LeChoke will continue to fail in the postseason, cause he doesn't have the stones to be a true leader of men.

Why did Jordan become so successful.........cause he was slighted in HS, he was slighted in college, and then he got injured early in the NBA...that made him angry at the world and he felt like he had something to prove....dont believe me, just listen to his HOF speech. He is still angry.

James has been coddled and handed everything since before his Prep School days. He has lived the silver platter lifestyle.....so he never learned early on how to deal with adversity. Because of this, his stones never grew enough to help him overcome those mountains that block his path.

Call me a hater all you want, but my boy Colt will win a ring for Cleveland before LeChoke does.

I agree, Cleveland does suck. Tell me one player besides LeBron or Hickson on that team that you'd trade for?

Ya I can't think of one either.

As much as I hate Gasol and Bynum they are forces and really good players. It allows Kobe to not have to be superhuman for them to win.

You get LeBron that help and it will bring multiple championships to the Cavs.

[Maikeru-sama]

if being a realist = being a hater....then I am a hater.

Cleveland sucks.....I dont care how many wins they get in the regular season, until they win a ring, they suck.

So any team that hasn't won a championship sucks?

[zrinkill]

Why? Jordan didn't become "Jordan" until he got some real help.
Its like R2A comparing Miles Austin too Jerry Rice.



I think it's a very fair comparison as we speak. Give it some time. Look at their accomplishments and numbers at this same time in their careers.

Jordan did not have bad games in the playoffs before he won a championship.

He was the only one doing anything on the team and the Pistons and Celtics were physically attacking him.

Once he got help .... it was over for the league.

Lebron has got to overcome a mental hurdle before help will be any help to him.

[SLATEmosphere]

Its like R2A comparing Miles Austin too Jerry Rice.

It's nothing like that. Miles is a one hit wonder. LeBron is a two time MVP and 6 time all star.



Jordan did not have bad games in the playoffs before he won a championship.

He was the only one doing anything on the team and the Pistons and Celtics were physically attacking him.

Once he got help .... it was over for the league.

Lebron has got to overcome a mental hurdle before help will be any help to him.


Jordan never had a bad playoff game? wow well that's news to me.

And this is my argument. Teams are beating up on LeBron because they have no else to to beat them. He has to play superhuman for that team to even have a chance.

Once LeBron gets help..it's over for the league.

[zrinkill]

Once LeBron gets help..it's over for the league.


I hope so because I actually like Lebron ....... his annoying fans not so much.

[SLATEmosphere]

I hope so because I actually like Lebron ....... his annoying fans not so much.

:laugh2:

It's only annoying because we have to deal with mentally challenged, bandwagoning Laker fans constantly.

Laker fans are 10x more annoying. I can't wait till their run is over and they struggle to fill out that stadium like when they sucked 4 years ago.

[zrinkill]

:laugh2:

It's only annoying because we have to deal with mentally challenged, bandwagoning Laker fans constantly.

Laker fans are 10x more annoying. I can't wait till their run is over and they struggle to fill out that stadium like when they sucked 4 years ago.

Are you gonna follow him to the Knickerbockers ..... or stay a Cleveland fan?

[SLATEmosphere]

Are you gonna follow him to the Knickerbockers ..... or stay a Cleveland fan?

Cavs fan.

[rkstevens]

You sound like a hater so your opinion means nothing.

Hickson,Jamison,Mo,Delonte and Eyenga will do it for Bosh and Calderon. Bosh has already commanded a sign and trade. The Raptors were etxremely high on Eyenga in the draft. They want to get rid of Calderons contract and AJ,Mo and Delonte have very few years till they expire. Not to mention Hickson and Eyenga costs next to nothing for a few more years.

The roster would be pretty depleted but you could fill that roster with D-leagers if you had LeBron and Bosh and still rattle off championships

You sound like a moron so your opinion means nothing.

Get real. Why would Toronto want to trade for that group of losers? They couldn't get it done with LeChoke on their team and Toronto would trade for them expecting them to do something with Turkoglu and Bargnani? The only player worth trading for in that group is Hickson. Jamison is still good but you don't take on the remaining $28 million he's owed unless you are a contender. As for Eyenga, he actually has to sign with the Cavs before they can trade him. Without Bosh's salary, Toronto would still be able to sign a decent free agent, which might be all they need since they're not getting any of the max contract players anyway. If the Raptors end up doing a sign and trade, they'd most likely do it for players with expiring contracts to free up future cap space -- no reason to do anything else unless you're getting quality players back.

I have no idea what message boards said in 1989(since they didn't exist) but I bet if they did they would say the same thing if Jordan ever got some legit superstar to join him.

And they would be right.

Actually there were plenty of message boards in 1989. There were already Usenet groups devoted to sports and basketball on the internet and BBS's with message boards that were connected across the world using FidoNet. In addition, there were plenty of commercial providers with message boards such as CompuServe, Prodigy, Quantum (AOL), and others. Just because YOU haven't heard of them doesn't mean they don't exist.

[kev8822]

Bosh names 5 teams and Cleveland is nowhere to be found.

Sources: Bosh gives Raptors wish list

CHICAGO -- Chris Bosh's agent has told the Toronto Raptors that he's narrowed his list of preferred teams to five, two sources told ESPN.com's Chad Ford at the NBA draft camp.

The list of five teams -- Toronto plus the Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat and New York Knicks, sources said -- were given to Toronto management in case the Raptors want to construct a sign-and-trade deal (assuming he doesn't re-sign with Toronto).

More at link

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5208043

Bosh would look good in purple and gold

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/kobeowen132/boshbryantcopy.jpg

In a recent Bill Simmons podcast according to insiders he knows they are saying Bosh for Bynum is a done deal in the off-season.

Edit-as soon as you hear it is a done deal that means nothing will happen

[SLATEmosphere]

Bosh names 5 teams and Cleveland is nowhere to be found.

Sources: Bosh gives Raptors wish list

CHICAGO -- Chris Bosh's agent has told the Toronto Raptors that he's narrowed his list of preferred teams to five, two sources told ESPN.com's Chad Ford at the NBA draft camp.

The list of five teams -- Toronto plus the Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat and New York Knicks, sources said -- were given to Toronto management in case the Raptors want to construct a sign-and-trade deal (assuming he doesn't re-sign with Toronto).

More at link

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5208043

Bosh would look good in purple and gold

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/kobeowen132/boshbryantcopy.jpg

In a recent Bill Simmons podcast according to insiders he knows they are saying Bosh for Bynum is a done deal in the off-season.

Edit-as soon as you hear it is a done deal that means nothing will happen

Hmmm interesting!

That would be rather disgusting if the lakers indeed traded for Bosh.

[Bob Sacamano]

SLATE, I think rkstevens hates you lol

[SLATEmosphere]

SLATE, I think rkstevens hates you lol

LOL

Ya that clown doesn't like me.

Didn't even know he existed till yesterday, but apparently he knows me.

[Biggems]

So any team that hasn't won a championship sucks?

The Cavs have been around for 40 years. In that time, they have had 20 winning seasons, and made the playoffs 18 times. They have lost 11 times in the 1st round, 4 times in the 2nd round, 3 times in the ECF, and 1 time in the Finals (to my Spurs).

ESPN analyst Hollinger ranks them at the 19th out of the 30 franchises, as far as overall success.

Now they have had two really good runs...the first was during the Mark Price and Brad Daugherty years and now with LeChoke.

So yes, as an overall franchise they do suck.....but in the last 5 years or so, they have been a top 8 team in the NBA.

[The Grim Reaper]

Grow up Peter Pan.

LeBron is staying with Cleveland and Bosh is coming on over too.

dyNASTY.Updated: May 22, 2010, 12:37 AM ET
Sources: Bosh gives Raptors wish list

ESPN.com news services

CHICAGO -- Chris Bosh's agent has told the Toronto Raptors that he's narrowed his list of preferred teams to five, two sources told ESPN.com's Chad Ford at the NBA draft camp.

The list of five teams -- Toronto plus the Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat and New York Knicks, sources said -- was given to Toronto management in case the Raptors want to construct a sign-and-trade deal (assuming Bosh doesn't re-sign with Toronto).

Bosh likes that option, sources told Ford, because he'd get one more year on his contract and could make more money.

"It has been narrowed down to a handful of teams, including us," Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo told the Toronto Star without providing more detail.

Sources said the Raptors prefer a sign-and-trade if Bosh is intent on leaving as well. They likely would want a big man to replace the 6-10, 230-pound Bosh in the lineup.

One source said Bosh's decision hinges on where LeBron James signs.

"If LeBron decides to go to either New York or Chicago, I think that's where you'll see Chris land," the source told Ford. "If LeBron stays in Cleveland, I think the process is more wide open."
Bosh, 26, is an unrestricted free agent. He averaged 24 points per game last season and has averaged 20.2 points per game for his career.