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KingTuna
02-06-2005, 08:14 AM
Bledsoe on Parcells' radar


Last season, Dallas coach Bill Parcells brought in Vinny Testaverde, his QB with the Jets. This season, could it be Drew Bledsoe, his QB with the Pats? Buffalo wants to go with J.P. Losman next season and Bledsoe's future with the Bills is tied to his willingness to accept a backup role. If he refuses, he could be gone. But it's no guarantee Bledsoe is an upgrade over Testaverde. . . . If Parcells doesn't turn the Cowboys around next season, my guess is it gets ugly between him and Jerry Jones. Can't imagine Parcells was very happy when Jones expressed disappointment after Parcells yanked Drew Henson at halftime on Thanksgiving and put Testaverde back in. Is that why Henson never got back on the field the rest of the season? . . . Parcells is serious about fixing the 'Boys. He's been in the office seven days a week, attended the Senior Bowl and will be at the Indy combine. . . .

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/278203p-238362c.html

dbair1967
02-06-2005, 08:20 AM
If he is determined to fix the Cowboys, signing washed up has beens like Drew Bledsoe, Eddie George etc etc isnt the way to do it

David

zack
02-06-2005, 08:27 AM
If he is determined to fix the Cowboys, signing washed up has beens like Drew Bledsoe, Eddie George etc etc isnt the way to do it

David


I'll take the Drew Bledsoe has been over the Vinny. Unfortunately people are going to have to come to terms that Drew Henson isn't going to play.

Nors
02-06-2005, 08:33 AM
If he is determined to fix the Cowboys, signing washed up has beens like Drew Bledsoe, Eddie George etc etc isnt the way to do it

David

David -

Parcells knows so much more about football than you its not funny. But you know better on all Parcells. Pretty weak.

1) George was signed to be a Backup to JJ. Fact is Parcells/Bellicheck love veteran players. JJ was lucky as a rookie to see how pro's work. Eddie and Anderson are the hardest workers in the league. It was a good experience for JJ to see that firsthand.

2) Look at Pats record on "Old" players. Phifer, Washington, Traylor, Harrison, McGinnest, Johnson, Bruschi, Law, Traylor, TBuckley, Otis Smith, Hamilton.

the 2001 defense was LED by reserve washed up Byron Cox.

If Parcells takes in Bledsoe over VT it tells me two things. 1) He thinks he's better than VT and Henson/romo in 2005 are like 2004. Not ready.

Hows that GROZ going? Why don't you get a GROP going. Get rid of Parcells - that would be totally cool. :o

gbrittain
02-06-2005, 08:34 AM
I'll take the Drew Bledsoe has been over the Vinny. Unfortunately people are going to have to come to terms that Drew Henson isn't going to play.

It is not about Drew. You can bring in all the Bledsoes, Warners, Testaverdes, Gannons, and Johnsons of the NFL world and you are guaranteeing that you will never amount to anything.

dbair1967
02-06-2005, 08:34 AM
I'll take the Drew Bledsoe has been over the Vinny. Unfortunately people are going to have to come to terms that Drew Henson isn't going to play.

why? other than age Bledsoe has nothing on Vinny...VT is a better passer IMO

David

dbair1967
02-06-2005, 08:36 AM
David -

Parcells knows so much more about football than you its not funny. But you know better on all Parcells. Pretty weak.

1) George was signed to be a Backup to JJ. Fact is Parcells/Bellicheck love veteran players. JJ was lucky as a rookie to see how pro's work. Eddie and Anderson are the hardest workers in the league. It was a good experience for JJ to see that firsthand.

2) Look at Pats record on "Old" players. Phifer, Washington, Traylor, Harrison, McGinnest, Johnson, Bruschi, Law, Traylor, TBuckley, Otis Smith, Hamilton.

the 2001 defense was LED by reserve washed up Byron Cox.

If Parcells takes in Bledsoe over VT it tells me two things. 1) He thinks he's better than VT and Henson/romo in 2005 are like 2004. Not ready.

Hows that GROZ going? Why don't you get a GROP going. Get rid of Parcells - that would be totally cool. :o

as usual, whatever Nors

Parcells is still hunting that 3rd ring...15 years now

David

Nors
02-06-2005, 08:42 AM
as usual, whatever Nors

Parcells is still hunting that 3rd ring...15 years now

David

Yes, looking for a 3rd ring. Turned Pats and Jets around. Will do here, he is fixing a decade of mismanagent, poor scouting and no talent roster.

In two drafts he's added 3 AllPro calibre players. And once we start wiing and JJ gets 1500 yards. Al Johnson will add to that - 4

This year he drafts over the top DEFENSE.

Hi, my name is David, Parcells sucks. :skins:

chinch
02-06-2005, 08:45 AM
If he is determined to fix the Cowboys, signing washed up has beens like Drew Bledsoe, Eddie George etc etc isnt the way to do it

David
What are your qualifications for GM / Coach again?

ROTF at the generalities typed here from anonymous keyboards.

HTownCowboysFan
02-06-2005, 08:47 AM
That NYDN article is nothing but speculation, based on NOTHING. Just throwing at the wall and see if it sticks.

I believe we'll resign VT to be a backup/"bull pen" QB and try to get Henson ready this offseason.

BTW, Vinny and George were not signed to be starters--it just ended up that way. We do not have the depth - yet - to take the losses like we took this year (QC, Woody, Julius, Campbell, Glenn, Hunter) and remain as good. Results of poor drafting and bad personel moves (Galloway) over the last decade.

I find it funny as hell those who question Parcells' ability to coach. Is he beyond questioning? Hell no. Does anyone here know better? Hell no. Coach Parcells proved to me what he is all about when he took that 2003 outfit to the playoffs. When he leaves Dallas, he'll leave this franchise better off - just like in NE (where his fingerprints are STILL all over that team) and the Jets.

There is no doubt in my mind that we'll be better next year - player-wise and record-wise.

Now-for today-"Fly Patriots Fly!" :iggles:

Sabu1
02-06-2005, 09:05 AM
That NYDN article is nothing but speculation, based on NOTHING. Just throwing at the wall and see if it sticks.

I believe we'll resign VT to be a backup/"bull pen" QB and try to get Henson ready this offseason.

BTW, Vinny and George were not signed to be starters--it just ended up that way. We do not have the depth - yet - to take the losses like we took this year (QC, Woody, Julius, Campbell, Glenn, Hunter) and remain as good. Results of poor drafting and bad personel moves (Galloway) over the last decade.

I find it funny as hell those who question Parcells' ability to coach. Is he beyond questioning? Hell no. Does anyone here know better? Hell no. Coach Parcells proved to me what he is all about when he took that 2003 outfit to the playoffs. When he leaves Dallas, he'll leave this franchise better off - just like in NE (where his fingerprints are STILL all over that team) and the Jets.

There is no doubt in my mind that we'll be better next year - player-wise and record-wise.

Now-for today-"Fly Patriots Fly!" :iggles:
Hell, his fingerprints are still all over the Jets also. Parcells will get this ship righted eventually. He may not be the coach when this team becomes a serious playoff contender down the road, but he is at the very least building the solid foundation that this franchise sorely needs. Let's see where the Cowboys are when his contract expires, then we can judge how good/bad a job Parcells did/

junk
02-06-2005, 09:19 AM
That NYDN article is nothing but speculation, based on NOTHING. Just throwing at the wall and see if it sticks.

I believe we'll resign VT to be a backup/"bull pen" QB and try to get Henson ready this offseason.

BTW, Vinny and George were not signed to be starters--it just ended up that way. We do not have the depth - yet - to take the losses like we took this year (QC, Woody, Julius, Campbell, Glenn, Hunter) and remain as good. Results of poor drafting and bad personel moves (Galloway) over the last decade.

I find it funny as hell those who question Parcells' ability to coach. Is he beyond questioning? Hell no. Does anyone here know better? Hell no. Coach Parcells proved to me what he is all about when he took that 2003 outfit to the playoffs. When he leaves Dallas, he'll leave this franchise better off - just like in NE (where his fingerprints are STILL all over that team) and the Jets.

There is no doubt in my mind that we'll be better next year - player-wise and record-wise.

Now-for today-"Fly Patriots Fly!" :iggles:

I got bashed pretty good for the bullpen theory for VT even though BP basically said the same thing himself. That is how I see it playing out. If Henson can win the job in camp (and I think he can), VT is there as a backup or relief QB if things go bad.

notherbob
02-06-2005, 09:28 AM
Hell, his fingerprints are still all over the Jets also. Parcells will get this ship righted eventually. He may not be the coach when this team becomes a serious playoff contender down the road, but he is at the very least building the solid foundation that this franchise sorely needs. Let's see where the Cowboys are when his contract expires, then we can judge how good/bad a job Parcells did/
I agree that it's too early to judge Parcells. I have some misgivings about some of the things I saw this year, but the team is actually better than it was when he came and I think it will get even better this year. I am reserving most of my criticism until the end of this coming season. Give the man some room and some time to undo the damage of the last decade and put a team in place of the hodge-podge that was here when he arrived.

Again I say "Patience, Grasshoppers!"

Wraith584
02-06-2005, 09:30 AM
VT is there as a backup or relief QB if things go bad.
You mean like Drew Henson throwing an INT or having two incomplete passes in a row? Seems like if Drew isn't perfect he'll get yanked. Seems like Parcells will just be on the sideline praying for Henson to mess up just once so that he can throw his boy Vinny in.

Vinny didn't even get pulled in blowout losses and after throwing 3 INTs in a game a few times

what an overall waste of a year.

HTownCowboysFan
02-06-2005, 09:47 AM
^ I don't buy the "Vinny/Tuna" conspiracy in the least.

If QC had kept his nose clean - no pun intended - he would've been the starter.

Who was he going to replace him with? Two guys who BP deemed as not being ready? Henson was NOT ready to be on the field last year and it showed in that Chicago game (the Balt. game doesn't count).

I for one welcome VT as a backup and hope that Drew is ready to go in 2005. I REALLY hope he is because if he ain't, then the QB search continues.

Plus, if "if's and but's were candy and nuts," I think VT's INTs are cut in quite a bit IF we had had JJ all year AND Terry Glenn. Not having a true running threat and a speed reciever really handcuffed us on Off, and allowed D's to play a way that was tough to throw against.

CantonBound08
02-06-2005, 10:01 AM
^ I don't buy the "Vinny/Tuna" conspiracy in the least.

If QC had kept his nose clean - no pun intended - he would've been the starter.

Who was he going to replace him with? Two guys who BP deemed as not being ready? Henson was NOT ready to be on the field last year and it showed in that Chicago game (the Balt. game doesn't count).

Completely agree. I am no Q fan, but I think he would have been the starter as well. I still do not understand why some athletes will ruin a great situation.

I for one welcome VT as a backup and hope that Drew is ready to go in 2005. I REALLY hope he is because if he ain't, then the QB search continues.

I also have no problems with Vinny being the backup. I think he throws a beautiful ball, and he has loads of experience. Hopefully, Henson will grab the bull by the horns this year. IMO, Parcell's ran a pretty vanilla offense when Q was the starting qb. This could have been due to his opinion of Q or it could have been due to the installation of a new offense. I would not be a bit surprised to see Parcell's do something very similar with Henson. Julius and Witten will be Henson's biggest safety net.

Plus, if "if's and but's were candy and nuts," I think VT's INTs are cut in quite a bit IF we had had JJ all year AND Terry Glenn. Not having a true running threat and a speed reciever really handcuffed us on Off, and allowed D's to play a way that was tough to throw against. While you are correct, Vinny made a lot of bonehead interceptions. There were many times he hit the defender right in the hands and they just dropped the ball. No doubt Julius Jones would have helped out tremendously, and that would have taken a lot of the pressure off of Vinny, but he does make a lot of mistakes. However, I think he would be an ideal backup.

Wraith584
02-06-2005, 10:30 AM
Plus, if "if's and but's were candy and nuts," I think VT's INTs are cut in quite a bit IF we had had JJ all year AND Terry Glenn. Not having a true running threat and a speed reciever really handcuffed us on Off, and allowed D's to play a way that was tough to throw against.
Mickey? Mickey Spagnola is that you?

lol, I'm sorry I just don't understand this in the least. Where were these "excuses" for Carter last year when he didn't have Julius Jones AT ALL?? or Keyshawn Johnson?? I'm not knocking on you in particular HTownCowboysFan bcause I don't even know you. But I think you know what I'm talking about when I say that double standards are hilarious.

CantonBound08
02-06-2005, 11:03 AM
Mickey? Mickey Spagnola is that you?

lol, I'm sorry I just don't understand this in the least. Where were these "excuses" for Carter last year when he didn't have Julius Jones AT ALL?? or Keyshawn Johnson?? I'm not knocking on you in particular HTownCowboysFan bcause I don't even know you. But I think you know what I'm talking about when I say that double standards are hilarious.
Not trying to beat a dead horse, but there were numerous excuses being made for Carter, some of them legitimate. No running back, different offense every year, no blocking from o-line, etc.

MichaelWinicki
02-06-2005, 11:07 AM
Bledsoe on Parcells' radar


Last season, Dallas coach Bill Parcells brought in Vinny Testaverde, his QB with the Jets. This season, could it be Drew Bledsoe, his QB with the Pats? Buffalo wants to go with J.P. Losman next season and Bledsoe's future with the Bills is tied to his willingness to accept a backup role. If he refuses, he could be gone. But it's no guarantee Bledsoe is an upgrade over Testaverde. . . . If Parcells doesn't turn the Cowboys around next season, my guess is it gets ugly between him and Jerry Jones. Can't imagine Parcells was very happy when Jones expressed disappointment after Parcells yanked Drew Henson at halftime on Thanksgiving and put Testaverde back in. Is that why Henson never got back on the field the rest of the season? . . . Parcells is serious about fixing the 'Boys. He's been in the office seven days a week, attended the Senior Bowl and will be at the Indy combine. . . .

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/278203p-238362c.html


KT, I use to blame Nors for starting all thes goofy "Bledsoe to Dallas" threads...

Now I know. And I'm watching you! :cool:

big dog cowboy
02-06-2005, 11:17 AM
KT, I use to blame Nors for starting all thes goofy "Bledsoe to Dallas" threads...
Ty Law to Dallas.....3-4 defense......ah memories!

MichaelWinicki
02-06-2005, 11:19 AM
Ty Law to Dallas.....3-4 defense......ah memories!


Don't rub it in BDC!

Oh, and don't forget the "Chad Eaton" and "Eddie George" threads...

BTW-- nice signings there Norsey! :rolleyes:

TheSkaven
02-06-2005, 12:19 PM
Parcells knows so much more about football than you its not funny. But you know better on all Parcells. Pretty weak.
Hey Nors - I agree with everything you said, but spare everyone the "Parcells knows better" nonsense. What's the point of this message board, then, for all of us to be cheerleaders? He makes mistakes just like everyone else, and he and Jerry made their fair share last off-season.

But, as you said, I don't blame him for the Eddie signing (who would have been a backup long ago if JuJo didn't get hurt) or the other things that the original poster nailed to him. I do blame him for other poor personnel decisions, like his thus far less than stellar draft picks on the o-line and sticking with Pete Hunter as the starting corner to go into this last season.

Sarge
02-06-2005, 01:01 PM
Don't rub it in BDC!

Oh, and don't forget the "Chad Eaton" and "Eddie George" threads...

BTW-- nice signings there Norsey! :rolleyes:

..or the Larry Allen to NT and the sign Jason Gildon thread(s).

MichaelWinicki
02-06-2005, 01:11 PM
..or the Larry Allen to NT and the sign Jason Gildon thread(s).


LOL!

Afternoon Sarge!

Sarge
02-06-2005, 01:47 PM
LOL!

Afternoon Sarge!

Afternoon Winkster.

Cheers.