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Mr. Fantasy
02-06-2005, 11:21 AM
Better option than Vinny or Bledsoe...




Trading Kitna is a good idea
By Chick Ludwig

Dayton Daily News

The question comes fresh out of the skillet on the NFL's hot stove: Will the Bengals consider trading quarterback Jon Kitna during or before the April 23-24 draft?

Yes. Of course. Absolutely.

Here's why: Although Kitna offers stability with his veteran leadership, the Bengals would love the chance to add a pick in the draft's top three rounds. They could do it by swapping Kitna or trading down from the 17th spot.

That way, they can address their biggest needs — defensive line, wide receiver, strong safety and center — with four picks on the draft's first day.

"You're talking about things way on down the line," head coach Marvin Lewis said. "It would have to be something that's good for us. As you saw (in season-ending wins over the Giants and Eagles), we are in pretty good shape (at the No. 2 QB spot) in comparison with some other teams."

Money isn't an issue. Kitna is due to make $1 million in base salary in 2005, a reasonable price for a veteran backup. And the Bengals would be forced to acquire a new backup if they traded Kitna, because Casey Bramlet isn't ready for that role.

Even if Kitna is worth a fourth- or fifth-round pick, the Bengals should jump at the chance to trade him. By giving him the opportunity to start elsewhere, and getting an extra draft pick, they'd be helping Kitna and themselves.

"If there was a situation out there that was going to make this team better by trading me away, that would be wonderful," Kitna said. "I would love a chance to go play and be a starter somewhere. That's my desire. But that's not up to me.

"There are a lot of positives about Cincinnati. I don't mind being here. I will continue to openly accept whatever role I'm given in this league and in my life."

The hard truth

The Bengals won't end a 14-year playoff drought until the 26th-ranked run defense improves and a dominant pass-rusher emerges. More beef is needed in the middle of the defensive line to stuff the run, and more consistent pressure on the quarterback must be generated off the edge.

Adding a tackle and end in free agency and the draft are moves that must be made. LSU's Marcus Spears (6-4, 295), who has the versatility to play tackle and end, would be an ideal fit. He was a Tiger in college and could be a Bengal in the pros.

The only positions to rule out for the Bengals in the draft's first round are quarterback (Carson Palmer) and cornerback (Tory James and Deltha O'Neal are solid starters, and Keiwan Ratliff is physical with good ball skills.

'Tomorrow' duet

A commercial that includes Lewis and wide receiver Chad Johnson singing Tomorrow from the Broadway musical Annie will air at halftime of FOX's Super Bowl broadcast today.

The 60-second spot for the NFL Network features players and coaches from around the league disappointed that they are not in Super Bowl XXXIX. They take consolation that on Monday all teams are undefeated and dreaming of Super Bowl XL in Detroit.

Quick-hitters

•Question: Who did the Bengals obtain by trading tailback Corey Dillon to the Patriots? Answer: Free safety Madieu Williams (56th overall pick, Round 2 of 2004 draft).

In 16 games with 13 starts, Williams finished fourth on the team in tackles with 95 (71 solos). He had three interceptions, including a 51-yard TD, two sacks, 11 pass breakups and two fumble recoveries.

•Palmer, who missed the last three games with a sprained left knee suffered at New England on Dec. 12, has been given medical clearance to begin running. He plans to be ready when offseason workouts begin on April 3.

MichaelWinicki
02-06-2005, 11:25 AM
Kitna is light-years better than that POS Bledsoe.

big dog cowboy
02-06-2005, 11:35 AM
I would trade a 5th for him in a heartbeat.

Juke99
02-06-2005, 11:48 AM
It all comes down to the asking price...

I wouldn't give up better than a 4th for him...

And I'm still hopeful that Parcells and company spend a TON of time getting Henson ready...

CantonBound08
02-06-2005, 11:56 AM
It all comes down to the asking price...

I wouldn't give up better than a 4th for him...

And I'm still hopeful that Parcells and company spend a TON of time getting Henson ready...
You and me both Juke. If we hit pay dirt on Henson that would help us out tremendously. We would be set at TE, RB, and QB. We still would need a WR, but we should be able to fill that need via the draft or Free Agency. :crossed:

Juke99
02-06-2005, 12:02 PM
You and me both Juke. If we hit pay dirt on Henson that would help us out tremendously. We would be set at TE, RB, and QB. We still would need a WR, but we should be able to fill that need via the draft or Free Agency. :crossed:


Yeah, imagine that, a person could actually get excited about the future...a young core of talent on the offensive side of the ball that hasn't been seen since, dare I say it?

:)

big dog cowboy
02-06-2005, 12:13 PM
And I'm still hopeful that Parcells and company spend a TON of time getting Henson ready...
Make that 2 tons please.

Jersey
02-06-2005, 12:20 PM
Why would anyone in their right mind trade for him? If we did, I would hope we then sent him to NFL Europe! He is what he is, a not even average QB. As Troy would say, "Get Real".

Mr. Fantasy
02-06-2005, 12:37 PM
Why would anyone in their right mind trade for him? If we did, I would hope we then sent him to NFL Europe! He is what he is, a not even average QB. As Troy would say, "Get Real".

Why would an 8 year vet need to go to NFL Europe? He's a decent plug in QB with experience that we wouldnt have to break the bank for.

Sarge
02-06-2005, 12:42 PM
Why would anyone in their right mind trade for him? If we did, I would hope we then sent him to NFL Europe! He is what he is, a not even average QB. As Troy would say, "Get Real".

Kitna? NFL Europe?

Uh, no.

....and yes - I'd MUCH rather have him than Bledsoe - hands down.

dbair1967
02-06-2005, 01:21 PM
[QUOTE=WOOHITZ]Better option than Vinny or Bledsoe...



no, he's not...

they are all crap...may as well keep the crap we have

David

dbair1967
02-06-2005, 01:22 PM
Kitna is light-years better than that POS Bledsoe.

Vinny-- cow crap

Bledsoe--horse crap

Kitna--chicken crap...

it all looks different, but its still all crap

David

Roy3131
02-06-2005, 01:59 PM
Kitna is a hell of a lot better than bledsoe. But like someone said i wouldnt give up more than a 4th rnd pick for him. When he played last season you could tell he was rusty but the year before that he had a very good season on the way to winning the comeback player of the year. I Really hope parcells doesnt get bledsoe. Like ive said all along i think the cowboys should draft alex smith because hes going to be some special...

dargonking999
02-06-2005, 02:13 PM
i would give a 4 or 5, just as long as bledsoe and vinny go away

blindzebra
02-06-2005, 02:24 PM
Kitna has had one good year and looked bad when he came in this year.

Any vet we bring in won't know the system, that would require extra reps in mini-camps and preseason, REPS TAKEN AWAY FROM HENSON.

If Bill and Jerry have any hopes of Henson starting soon, bringing in a new, crappy vet IS STUPID.

Woods
02-06-2005, 02:49 PM
Guys,

IF the idea is to start Henson this upcoming season, it makes sense to stick with VT because

1. VT is already familiar with the system, thus ensuring Henson gets the "extra" reps, rather than another vet QB who doesn't know the system and needs to receive more reps, and

2. VT should be a solid mentor to both of our young QBs.

Of course, this scenario depends upon whether the idea is to get Henson ready to start for the 2005 season.

STSINAZ
02-06-2005, 05:33 PM
I would go as far as trading away a 4th too...Kitna could get the job done for us...alot better than Vinnie....obviously........

You and me both Juke. If we hit pay dirt on Henson that would help us out tremendously. We would be set at TE, RB, and QB. We still would need a WR, but we should be able to fill that need via the draft or Free Agency. :crossed: