PFT: Redskins interested in Vincent Jackson

[cowboyjoe]

Report: Redskins interested in Vincent Jackson; PFT

boy, are the redskins ever gonna get enough wrs?

Posted by Michael David Smith on June 29, 2010 5:11 PM ET
Last week it was reported that the Seahawks expressed interest in a trade with the Chargers that would land restricted free agent Vincent Jackson in Seattle, but that the Chargers said no thanks. Now another team has been identified as a suitor for Jackson: The Washington Redskins.

Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune quotes an unnamed source as saying "several other teams," including the Redskins, are interested in acquiring Jackson from the Chargers.

However, it's not known how much other teams are willing to give up to acquire Jackson, or how much they're willing to pay Jackson, who apparently wants a new contract worth more than the four-year, $47.5 million deal Brandon Marshall got when the Broncos traded him to the Dolphins.

Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith has indicated that he'll play hardball with both Jackson and left tackle Marcus McNeill, who also hasn't signed his restricted free agent tender. Both players are reportedly considering sitting out until after Week Ten, when they need to report to accrue a season toward unrestricted free agency.

[cowboyjoe]

Vincent Jackson-WR- Chargers Jun. 29 - 4:39 pm et


The Chargers have "made it known" that unsigned restricted free agent Vincent Jackson will remain available for trade, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

"Several other teams," reportedly including the Redskins, have joined the Seahawks in expressing interest. Jackson is said to be seeking a long-term deal slightly above the four-year, $47.5 million deal (low on guarantees) that Brandon Marshall signed in April. No-nonsense GM A.J. Smith is apparently prepared to make good on his promise to move on without V-Jax and Marcus McNeil. At this point, a trade would be a lifeline for Jackson's 2010 fantasy value.
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
Related: Seahawks, Redskins

[Everlastingxxx]

That would be scary. That would be a great move by the skins. Probably would take 2 number 1s.

[cowboyjoe]

That would be scary. That would be a great move by the skins. Probably would take 2 number 1s.

true, but i dont think allen the gm would give up that much to get san diego's chargers wr

[rocyaice]

So basically the Deadskins are gonna overpay and overtrade for a player after he's had one good year and one pro bowl caliber year. Sounds familiar. Oh yeah that's how they got the majority of the players on their team. Deadskins will never be a contender until they start building from the draft like most contenders. You can't keep giving players big contracts after a good year. They have nothing to play for. You use the draft to build your team and before you know it you have a team full of hungry players looking for that big contract which will in result make your team better. You would think they would've learned this by now after getting Orakpo. Imagine if that team was built with players like Orakpo rather than players like Hayneworth? Now that's scary.

[cowboyjoe]

So basically the Deadskins are gonna overpay and overtrade for a player after he's had one good year and one pro bowl caliber year. Sounds familiar. Oh yeah that's how they got the majority of the players on their team. Deadskins will never be a contender until they start building from the draft like most contenders. You can't keep giving players big contracts after a good year. They have nothing to play for. You use the draft to build your team and before you know it you have a team full of hungry players looking for that big contract which will in result make your team better. You would think they would've learned this by now after getting Orakpo. Imagine if that team was built with players like Orakpo rather than players like Hayneworth? Now that's scary.

:muttley: yeah but wouldnt it be super if they havent learned that yet, and sets them back another 4 to 5 years.

[Quarterback Coach]

who wouldn't be?

[cowboyjoe]

here's more;


Report: Shanahan "a big fan" of Vincent Jackson
Posted by Evan Silva on June 29, 2010 8:57 PM ET
Somewhat buried at the end of a Tuesday blog post by ESPN's Bill Williamson is some juicy information on Mike Shanahan's background with Vincent Jackson, for whom Shanahan's Redskins are rumored to be contemplating a trade.


According to Williamson, Shanahan has been "a big fan" of Jackson dating back to the 2005 NFL Draft, when Shanahan's Broncos reportedly considered selecting the eventual Pro Bowl receiver. Williamson was covering the Broncos for the Denver Post at the time, so he's a credible source.


Williamson says Jackson was next on Shanahan's draft board when the Broncos selected the late Darrent Williams with the 56th overall pick. Jackson, who played at Northern Colorado, was drafted 61st overall by San Diego, "and the Broncos were not happy about it."


Jackson was relatively slow to develop in San Diego, but went on to post games of 95, 73, and 77 yards against Shanahan's Denver teams during the 2007 and 2008 seasons.


Interestingly, Williamson also "heard" that left tackle Marcus McNeill "may not be as dead set as Jackson on holding out for the long haul." Both players have threatened to sit out through Week Ten of the regular season.

[cowboyjoe]

Could a Vincent Jackson trade be nearing?

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/14318/could-a-vincent-jackson-trade-be-nearing
June, 29, 2010 Jun 298:15PM ETEmail Print Comments15 By Bill WilliamsonThe San Diego Union Tribune is reporting that the San Diego Chargers could end up trading Pro Bowl receiver Vincent Jackson, who is planning to hold out as a result of not signing his restricted free-agent tender. He could miss, at least, the first 10 games of the season before returning to qualify for an accrued season.

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San Diego Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson may be on the trading block.There has been talk for several days that Jackson could end up being traded. Teams that could be interested include Seattle, Washington, Chicago and Denver, although there is virtually no chance San Diego will deal Jackson to an AFC West rival.

I wrote earlier Tuesday that San Diego general manager A.J. Smith will not cave in this matter in regards to both Jackson and left tackle Marcus McNeill, who is also planning to stage a hold out.

However, if the Chargers can get something of value for Jackson and get the matter resolved, I don’t think that would be caving. That would be a sign of Smith showing he is in control and that he will ship players out of the loveliest city in the NFL if they don’t want to play by his rules.

I think San Diego could get some solid value for Jackson. He's is big, strong and fast receiver who had 68 catches last year and is getting better. However, there is a big knock against Jackson. He has two drunken driving arrests since entering the NFL and is likely facing a short NFL suspension in 2010.

Jackson is looking for a huge contract (think north of the $50 million Miami gave Brandon Marshall after acquiring him from Denver in April) and some teams may be leery of giving him that deal. Still, Jackson has had fewer legal issues than Marshall and did not create the team problems that Marshall created during his tenuous time in Denver. Miami gave two second-round picks to Denver for Marshall. Jackson could fetch at least a solid No. 2 pick.

I think teams like the Seahawks, Redskins and the Bears would all be willing to give up a nice pick for Jackson. The Seahawks and Redskins would also likely be willing to pay him what he wants.

I know new Washington head coach Mike Shanahan is a big Jackson fan. He nearly drafted him in 2005 in the second round when Broncos took the late Darrent Williams at No. 56. Jackson was next on Denver’s draft board. He went five spots later to the rival Chargers and the Broncos were not happy about it. The Redskins have long been known to spend big and to trade draft picks, and trading picks for Jackson could be a fit.

If San Diego can get good value for Jackson, and if it doesn’t think it can keep him for the future, they should make the move now.

As for McNeill, the San Diego Union Tribune reports he is not on the block because the team eventually wants to sign him long term. I have also heard that McNeill may not be as dead set as Jackon on holding out for the long haul.

[big dog cowboy]

I wish we could trade Roy11 for Jackson.

[Cowboys22]

The skins already have McNabb and Brown expecting massive new deals by next year, a top 4 rookie to pay, and a few of their own guys needing new contracts in a year or two. Let them give up some premium picks for another guy demanding a huge salary. More business as usual in DC.

[Romo 2 Austin]

That would be scary. That would be a great move by the skins. Probably would take 2 number 1s.

I think next years 1 and maybe a 2012 3rd would do it.

[cowboyjoe]

I think next years 1 and maybe a 2012 3rd would do it.

Lord, i hope not, I am hoping a number 1 and 3 this year and maybe a number 2 the following year, remember we got roy wiliams for a 1st and 3rd same year, make the skins bleed in next years draft.

:bang2: ohhhh if the skins get vincent jackson, wonder what hostile is thinking right now

[Jenky]

Lord, i hope not, I am hoping a number 1 and 3 this year and maybe a number 2 the following year, remember we got roy wiliams for a 1st and 3rd same year, make the skins bleed in next years draft.

:bang2: ohhhh if the skins get vincent jackson, wonder what hostile is thinking right now

I don't think they even have a 3rd round pick this year.

[Mansta54]

That would be scary. That would be a great move by the skins. Probably would take 2 number 1s.

Why is it scary and giving up 2 number 1's darn sure isn't a great move..

[Romo 2 Austin]

Lord, i hope not, I am hoping a number 1 and 3 this year and maybe a number 2 the following year, remember we got roy wiliams for a 1st and 3rd same year, make the skins bleed in next years draft.

:bang2: ohhhh if the skins get vincent jackson, wonder what hostile is thinking right now

well the difference is I don't believe RW11 ever really had issues, yaknow? I could be wrong.

Jax, he now does. Plus he wants a huge contract, with only one year left on his deal. Infact if SD gets just a 1 for him, thats probably fair since that other team will either lose him or pay an insane bundle of money.

[cowboyjoe]

yeah, but i want the redskins to bleed big time with draft picks getting jackson if they do

cant stand the skins, i dont hate them as much as hostile, i think, but i still dont like them, especially cooley, and their owner

[CCBoy]

Once, Dallas was set to draft Jerry Rice and had to get over that as well...:cool:

Hey, let Washington mortgage him as well as the rest of the 'over-the-hill' gang AND lose all of next year's draft picks as well. Redskin 'improvements!':)

[windjc]

I really have a hard time understanding why Snyder isn't learning from his mistakes. He simply repeats them over and over. To his credit, when the DO actually draft someone, they tend to get good players. But, they try to build everything from free agency and it gets them losing season after losing season.

I do not understand why he continues to do the same thing. If they get Jackson, its not going to change anything. McNabb has no history with the guy. Jackson will be above average, but the skins will still finish 7-9 or most likely, much worse.

That defense has overachieved the last few years. If it starts playing to its real talent level, they'll be no better than they were last year, even with a better offense.

[casmith07]

Draft picks are all they have to offer.

Vincent Jackson is good, but he's not a world beater. Two games a year each against Denver, Kansas City, and Oakland. Inflation ruins the market! :p:

Do it, Danny! Throw away those draft picks! I love the Skins :lmao:

[Everlastingxxx]

Why is it scary and giving up 2 number 1's darn sure isn't a great move..

Yea two number 1s is a pretty big price. But the Skins seems to have no problem trading away draft picks. But after i saw what Jackson did to Jenkins, i became a believer. He would be like Plaxico Burress joining the Giants a few years ago and becoming at thorn in our side. McNabb, Jackson, Moss and Cooley in the middle...that’s some firepower.

[ZeroClub]

Yea two number 1s is a pretty big price. But the Skins seems to have no problem trading away draft picks. But after i saw what Jackson did to Jenkins, i became a believer. He would be like Plaxico Burress joining the Giants a few years ago and becoming at thorn in our side. McNabb, Jackson, Moss and Cooley in the middle...that’s some firepower.

And they've got some old running backs who might have something left if you rotate them.

An experienced coach, experienced QB, a new direction ... Who knows? It wouldn't surprise me if the Redskins put together a halfway decent season this year.

[dcfanatic]

Do not want to see Vincent Jackson on the Skins.

Him and McNabb could remind us all of the McNabb to Terrell Owens combo from 2004.

[cowboyjoe]

Do not want to see Vincent Jackson on the Skins.

Him and McNabb could remind us all of the McNabb to Terrell Owens combo from 2004.

me neither, but if they do for whatever reason, i think it will cost the skins a number 1, and 3 this year, and number 2 the following year at least

remember a few years ago when they were having trouble with their pass rusher, and his price was steep too to get him

their gm is real tough on trading his players, for the chargers

[superpunk]

Jackson is a very good player.

But McNabb is no Phillip Rivers, at this point in their careers it's not even close.

And Jackson isn't putting that team over the top.

[Double Trouble]

That would be scary. That would be a great move by the skins. Probably would take 2 number 1s.Giving up 2 #1s for a WR is a monumentally stupid move. We should all hope the Redskins make such a move. Repeatedly giving away high draft picks for veteran players has kept them at or near the bottom of the division ever since Snyder took over.

[HoleInTheRoof]

Do not want to see Vincent Jackson on the Skins.

Him and McNabb could remind us all of the McNabb to Terrell Owens combo from 2004.

Give me a break.

McNabb isn't as good as he was in six years ago.

Jackson isn't as good as Owens was six years ago.

The Redskins offensive line isn't as good as the Eagles offensive line was six years ago.

[HoleInTheRoof]

Also, a lot of people are alreay throwing around trade details (2 #1's, etc), but that article really just seemed like speculation.

I'd be suprised if anything actually transpired with this.

[Chuck 54]

We just saw the undervaluing of WR's this past off-season. Vincent Jackson has not accomplished anywhere near what Brandon Marshall had accomplished.

Whomever gets Vincent Jackson, if the Chargers decide to let him go, won't give up more than a #2, imo.

WR's are no longer being acquired for #1 draft picks...they're being given away, and teams are taking whatever they can get. With the economy and no collective bargaining agreement, teams are currently valuing draft picks more than veteran players. If the NFL manages to get a rookie cap in place, one of their top priorities, and one that the veteran players seem to support, then draft picks will become even more valuable and economical.

[Rampage]

me neither, but if they do for whatever reason, i think it will cost the skins a number 1, and 3 this year, and number 2 the following year at least

remember a few years ago when they were having trouble with their pass rusher, and his price was steep too to get him

their gm is real tough on trading his players, for the chargers
nobody including the skins are gonna give that up at the most let alone the least.

[cowboyjoe]

nobody including the skins are gonna give that up at the most let alone the least.

i know that rampage, but i still can dream that good ole danny boy is silly enough to do it, :laugh2: :D

[ThreeSportStar80]

Who cares... It's all about the Cowboys :grin:

[Section444]

They have probably had the best off-sesaon of any team in recent memory, this would just make that off-season that much better.

[Double Trouble]

They have probably had the best off-sesaon of any team in recent memory, this would just make that off-season that much better.Wow. :lmao2:

[CowboysFaninDC]

That would be scary. That would be a great move by the skins. Probably would take 2 number 1s.
same ole, same ole. you don't build through FA, proven talent costs more draft picks and the skins aren't necessarily getting better and younger. McNabb, Portis, Johnson aren't spring chickens then Brown, McNabb, now jackson cost draft picks. they are trying to win now.

they have no depth.

[Cowboysfan570]

Vincent Jackson going to Washington would ruin his career. Make him another diamond amongst garbage player.

[InmanRoshi]

AJ Smith's not going to do the deal just because he feels pressured to by Jackson and his agents. His ego won't let him do the deal unless he's just absolutely taking the Redskins to the cleaners.

[Alexander]

I wish we could trade Roy11 for Jackson.
I'd settle shipping out Roy Williams to San Diego for a draft pick to take Jackson's place if they trade him.

The more I look at it, the more I see Williams as simply getting in the way this season.

[Alexander]

AJ Smith's not going to do the deal just because he feels pressured to by Jackson and his agents. His ego won't let him do the deal unless he's just absolutely taking the Redskins to the cleaners.

That's the one big wildcard here. Smith has a tremendous ego and while he talks tough often, I get the feeling he would find it important to back it up.

[Alexander]

They have probably had the best off-sesaon of any team in recent memory, this would just make that off-season that much better.
Are you serious? McNabb and a couple of washed up running backs makes it a great offseason?

If I am a Redskins fan, I would be scared to death over both the passing game and the running game. Let alone a defense in a serious state of transition. They improved only in the addition of Shanahan and the culture change. McNabb does not make them a playoff contender.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Also, a lot of people are alreay throwing around trade details (2 #1's, etc), but that article really just seemed like speculation.

I'd be suprised if anything actually transpired with this.

Agree. I read the article twice trying to see where the compensation details of 5 number 1st round picks , 8 second round picks were coming from

One thing the Redskins current FO hasn't done is pay over market value and sign people to absurd long term deals. The Snyderatto regime would have given Larry Johnson a 4 year deal with 15 million guranteed. Jamal Brown would already be re-signed through 2028.

On top of that, when have the Redskins traded multiple 1st round picks for a WR? Danny didn't trade for Joey Galloway in 2000

[SilverStarCowboy]

SanDiego Chargers are LOSERS, they have a real chance ths year and it looks like they are willing to blow it.

[DC Cowboy]

I wish we could trade Roy11 for Jackson.

So would you trade RW11 and a 2nd for Jackson?

[big dog cowboy]

So would you trade RW11 and a 2nd for Jackson?
Nope.

[Mansta54]

They have probably had the best off-sesaon of any team in recent memory, this would just make that off-season that much better.

Please say you're joking.. You can't be serious!!!!

[Mansta54]

Agree. I read the article twice trying to see where the compensation details of 5 number 1st round picks , 8 second round picks were coming from

One thing the Redskins current FO hasn't done is pay over market value and sign people to absurd long term deals. The Snyderatto regime would have given Larry Johnson a 4 year deal with 15 million guranteed. Jamal Brown would already be re-signed through 2028.

On top of that, when have the Redskins traded multiple 1st round picks for a WR? Danny didn't trade for Joey Galloway in 2000

No he didn't but he may be the dumbest owner in the league. All of his stupid moves are documented and he's made many personellwise. Can you say Fat Albert for starters?

[casmith07]

The upside to this is even if they get him, he won't be on the field Week 1 :lmao:

[Bob Sacamano]

Please say you're joking.. You can't be serious!!!!

I think it's schtick. Because he's recently excoriated the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. I think he just wants to get a reaction.