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cowboyjoe
07-28-2010, 03:38 PM
Report: Tim Tebow wants more than Dez Bryant
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 28, 2010 4:23 PM ET
The Dallas Cowboys selected Dez Bryant with the 24th pick in the 2010 NFL draft, and the Denver Broncos selected Tim Tebow 25th. Ordinarily, that would mean Tebow should get paid a little bit less than Bryant.

But Tebow apparently wants more money than Bryant, and that's why he wasn't there when the Broncos' rookies reported to training camp today.

Ed Werder of ESPN reported on NFL Live that the holdup on Tebow's contract is the request from agent Jimmy Sexton that a premium be paid to Tebow because he's a quarterback. Sexton wants Tebow to get a bigger signing bonus, higher base salaries and more money overall than Bryant is getting from the Cowboys.

Werder reported that Tebow and the Broncos are close to getting the deal done, but in the mean time, coach Josh McDaniels has called Tebow and expressed disappointment that Tebow didn't report with the rest of the rookies.

"You're missing time and you can't afford to miss it," McDaniels told Tebow, according to Werder. "You're not going to get these snaps back."

DallasEast
07-28-2010, 03:44 PM
[ IF true... ]

The Seven Deadly Sins

1. Extravagance
2. Gluttony
3. Discouragement
4. Wrath
5. Envy
6. Pride
7. Greed Mr. Tebow! Shame on you! :nono:

joseephuss
07-28-2010, 03:50 PM
I agree that a QB probably is higher on the pay scale than a WR, but that is not the only consideration. Dez is will be playing and contributing much sooner than Tebow. It may take 2 or 3 years before Tebow is solidly contributing to the Broncos offense, while Dez can be contributing as soon as this year. If not as a WR, Dez will at least be contributing on special teams. To me that offsets any difference in Tebow being a QB.

Yeagermeister
07-28-2010, 03:50 PM
Rookie salary cap :banghead:

kmp77
07-28-2010, 03:57 PM
Teebow = piece of crap..I stand by that

dbair1967
07-28-2010, 04:08 PM
Its gonna be really fun wathcing him and his loser coach fail miserably there.

BrAinPaiNt
07-28-2010, 04:09 PM
Whether people like Tebow or not...this is not something new. This has happened in the past where most Agents get a tad more for QBs than other positions.

JPM
07-28-2010, 05:36 PM
[ IF true... ]

The Seven Deadly Sins

1. Extravagance
2. Gluttony
3. Discouragement
4. Wrath
5. Envy
6. Pride
7. Greed Mr. Tebow! Shame on you! :nono:
He's giving all of it to charity. DUH !!

Bleu Star
07-28-2010, 06:22 PM
Damn Tim.... SMH

Joe Realist
07-28-2010, 08:14 PM
I think Tebow is going to come out as a fraud at some point. Does he really charge kids $160 for his autograph? Does he have an endorsement deal with Jockey.

Will the pressures and temptations of the NFL life be too much for Tebow almighty? Don't be shocked if it does.

casmith07
07-28-2010, 08:26 PM
[ IF true... ]

The Seven Deadly Sins

1. Extravagance
2. Gluttony
3. Discouragement
4. Wrath
5. Envy
6. Pride
7. Greed Mr. Tebow! Shame on you! :nono:

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big dog cowboy
07-28-2010, 09:41 PM
Locker room cancer.

joseephuss
07-29-2010, 07:36 AM
Locker room cancer.

You can't be a locker room cancer if you are not signed and in the locker room.

Cowboys22
07-29-2010, 08:16 AM
I think this has alot to do with that contract the Patriots gave the 27th pick. Wasn't it like $13.25 million? If they would have done that before Dez signed his deal, Dez might not be at camp right now either. That being said, this should be a much bigger story than padgate. The Golden Child holding out for a few more dollars. Lets see how much play this gets and if 50% of the talking heads bash the chosen one.

Doomsday101
07-29-2010, 08:35 AM
Tebow like any player out there is going to listen and do what is agent thinks is in his best interest. If not then why bother hiring an agent? In the end Tebow may not get the contract his agent is trying to get him but it is the job of the agent to negotiate the contract and that is all that is taking place with Tebow and other players who have yet to sign.

Double Trouble
07-29-2010, 09:27 AM
[ IF true... ]

The Seven Deadly Sins

1. Extravagance
2. Gluttony
3. Discouragement
4. Wrath
5. Envy
6. Pride
7. Greed Mr. Tebow! Shame on you! :nono:Isn't lust supposed to be in there somewhere?

koolaid
07-29-2010, 09:29 AM
I think its ridiculous that so many people seem to hate Tebow because he uses his fame to express his beliefs and help people. The NFL is full of jack*** players with get mine and gang banger attitudes, its great when someone like Tebow comes along and shows some integrity, even if you don't agree with his interpretation of reality.

A lot of people seem to think something "smells funny" about the guy. Really, who cares. If he is privately a greedy guy and a total narcissist it doesn't really matter. Only his actions that effect others do matter and so far he has been a complete class act.

And as far as this story goes, more power to him. He is going to make Denver a lot of money with jersey sales alone (although I admit I don't know how the economics of that work). If you don't use your leverage to make the best of your time in the league you aren't a "good guy", your an idiot. It could all be gone tomorrow.

DallasEast
07-29-2010, 10:18 AM
Isn't lust supposed to be in there somewhere?
'Lust' is included with the 'cardinal sins' list. I copied Dante Alighieri's list and used it instead.

Avery
07-29-2010, 10:53 AM
The NFL dominates the NBA on so many levels with the exception of a slotted rookie cap depending on draft position. It's no wonder that teams with high picks are handcuffed to paying tons of money and aggrevating every other veteran in the locker room.

Cowboys22
07-29-2010, 10:59 AM
'Lust' is included with the 'cardinal sins' list. I copied Dante Alighieri's list and used it instead.

Those deadly sins are crap. Discouragement? I discourage my son to take drugs and I commit a deadly sin? Pride? Sorry, but that is essential to becoming an upstanding productive member of society. If you don't have pride in yourself, I would say you are more likley to fall victem to the real deadly sins. Having pride in yourself is one of the best things you can teach your children. Extravagance? Okay thats fine but it's basically the same thing as gluttony.

tyke1doe
07-29-2010, 11:34 AM
Whether people like Tebow or not...this is not something new. This has happened in the past where most Agents get a tad more for QBs than other positions.

Thank you for being objective. :clap:

casmith07
07-29-2010, 11:39 AM
Isn't lust supposed to be in there somewhere?

Lust isn't a sin. :laugh1:

tyke1doe
07-29-2010, 11:42 AM
Those deadly sins are crap. Discouragement? I discourage my son to take drugs and I commit a deadly sin? Pride? Sorry, but that is essential to becoming an upstanding productive member of society. If you don't have pride in yourself, I would say you are more likley to fall victem to the real deadly sins. Having pride in yourself is one of the best things you can teach your children. Extravagance? Okay thats fine but it's basically the same thing as gluttony.

Somehow, I don't think you're interpreting the words according to their more traditional negative connotation.

Pride is a self-absorbed focus on one's self to the exclusion to the needs of others. It does not mean thinking so lowly of yourself that you believe you have no worth. That's contrary to the Bible and David's admonition "I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Marvelous are your works, oh Lord." Unfortunately, there's really not a good word in the English language to describe a sense of self worth outside of the misapplication of the word "pride." That's why people get the two concepts mixed up.

As for extravagance, that word has to do more with lifestyle; gluttony is more specific to food.

Doomsday101
07-29-2010, 11:52 AM
Somehow, I don't think you're interpreting the words according to their more traditional negative connotation.

Pride is a self-absorbed focus on one's self to the exclusion to the needs of others. It does not mean thinking so lowly of yourself that you believe you have no worth. That's contrary to the Bible and David's admonition "I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Marvelous are your works, oh Lord." Unfortunately, there's really not a good word in the English language to describe a sense of self worth outside of the misapplication of the word "pride." That's why people get the two concepts mixed up.

As for extravagance, that word has to do more with lifestyle; gluttony is more specific to food.

Wrath. Example is anger not a sin, for a person to show anger it is natural for a person to be angry but when the anger consume the person and affects the person’s life and those around him then it becomes a Cardinal Sins or as some call it one of the 7 deadly sins

hornitosmonster
07-29-2010, 01:29 PM
Report: Tim Tebow wants more than Dez Bryant
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 28, 2010 4:23 PM ET
The Dallas Cowboys selected Dez Bryant with the 24th pick in the 2010 NFL draft, and the Denver Broncos selected Tim Tebow 25th. Ordinarily, that would mean Tebow should get paid a little bit less than Bryant.

But Tebow apparently wants more money than Bryant, and that's why he wasn't there when the Broncos' rookies reported to training camp today.

Ed Werder of ESPN reported on NFL Live that the holdup on Tebow's contract is the request from agent Jimmy Sexton that a premium be paid to Tebow because he's a quarterback. Sexton wants Tebow to get a bigger signing bonus, higher base salaries and more money overall than Bryant is getting from the Cowboys.

Werder reported that Tebow and the Broncos are close to getting the deal done, but in the mean time, coach Josh McDaniels has called Tebow and expressed disappointment that Tebow didn't report with the rest of the rookies.

"You're missing time and you can't afford to miss it," McDaniels told Tebow, according to Werder. "You're not going to get these snaps back."



So much for the angel. Tebow knows this is his only payday so he wants to max it out.

Tebow holding out :lmao:

hipfake08
07-29-2010, 02:15 PM
Locker room cancer.


They better get rid of him.

Trade him to us for a secound rounder.

We'll package him to the Redskins for two #1's.:eek:

Phrozen Phil
07-29-2010, 02:24 PM
Maybe we should consider Dez's actions in this story. He signed early, came to camp and is working his tail off. He's actually doing something. Tebow is simply looking after himself, and I suspect that his agent wants more coin in any potential deal. I'm just happy for Cowboy's fans. Bronco's fans will just have to wait Tim to show how perfect he is. He doesn't have a ton of leverage at this point. Let's see how it plays out.

hornitosmonster
07-29-2010, 02:42 PM
Tebow has reportedly informed Denver that he walks on water and should be compensated for it.

tyke1doe
07-29-2010, 10:19 PM
Tebow has reportedly informed Denver that he walks on water and should be compensated for it.

I admit I :laugh2:ed

rickwil61
07-30-2010, 04:32 PM
His incentives are high but the actual contract doesn't appear to be much different that Dez's.

Here's a link to the following excerpt.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/07/22/d...-with-cowboys/

"...Thursday and will be in camp when it opens this weekend. Bryant's is a five-year, $11.8 million contract that includes $8.5 million in guarantees."

Here's a link to a story about Tebow's deal.

http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/stor...e=HP_headlines

"...Tebow signed a five-year deal worth $11.25 million Thursday, with $8.7 million of that guaranteed. He could earn up to $33 million over the life of the contract if he ascends to the top of the quarterback chart."

Interesting bit of info about Bradford's negotiations.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/07/22/d...-with-cowboys/

"Negotiations continue between the St. Louis Rams and No. 1 overall pick Sam Bradford, who's looking for a deal that guarantees him close to $50 million. That deal is expected to get done before training camp starts,"

rysko
08-01-2010, 12:09 AM
so much for just loving to play the game

jimmy40
08-01-2010, 08:11 AM
Third-round pick Colt McCoy agreed to a four-year deal Thursday worth up to $5 million, according to a league source; $1.07 million is guaranteed, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

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The normal slot is approximately $3.275 million. But McCoy got the "quarterback premium," which shows the faith Cleveland has in McCoy as its long-term solution at quarterback.