Flozell's new gig not going well

[Fletch]

I was on my way home last night from work and was listening to 93.7 The Fan out of Pittsburgh. The topic was Flozell in his first preseason game against the Lions. You should hear the disappointment in the fans up here. I personally watched the game with Flozell (#71) and could not believe how much he has regressed. He was getting beat consistently. It wasn't pretty.

Back to my point. The host set up the topic by wanting to know from callers if Flozell has already soured on them after one preseason game. The one caller I caught before pulling into my drive mentioned that their was a reason why Dallas let the aging Adams go. Gee, ya think? Also said that the Steelers front office figured Adams was going to be a band-aid for their inconsistent O-line.

To sum it all up, Squeeler fans believe their backups can handle the job better than Flozell.

You still miss him? I sure the heck don't. Aging Tackles, or O-lineman in general are like aging Centers in the NBA. Once they begin their decline, it's not a little bit here and there, it's like a frickin landslide. It all comes down at once.

[hipfake08]

thanks for the update. Did they draft any O lineman in Pittsburgh?

[physeter]

Thanks also, but not our problem now.

[Fletch]

thanks for the update. Did they draft any O lineman in Pittsburgh?

Center Pouncey out of Florida. He's already taking half the snaps from starter Justin Hartwig.

[CowboysBeatlesFan]

I will not miss hearing his name multiple times per game.

[THUMPER]

But, but,... Yeah, Doug Free is going to do very nicely for us. :starspin

All those who were berating our staff for letting Flozell go will be singing their praises when they see that Flo just isn't the same player he was 5 years ago.

I can't wait to hear all of the "experts" who were talking about how much we would rue losing Adams. :lmao2:

[BlueStar3398]

Nate Newton & Galloway were just saying yesterday that it was a mistake to cut him.

Colombo being out has fans in a panic. The sky is falling!

[adbutcher]

So let me get this straight? You mean to tell me that this staff knows what they are doing? They are not imploding in absence of The Tuna? Impossible, can't be.

[jimnabby]

To sum it all up, Squeeler fans believe their backups can handle the job better than Flozell.

And as we all know, people who call in to sports radio aren't at all likely to overreact to what they see in the first preseason game.

I expect Flozell to be perfectly serviceable for the Steelers this year, as he almost certainly would have been for us. I still think cutting him was the right decision.

[Chief]

I can't wait to hear all of the "experts" who were talking about how much we would rue losing Adams. :lmao2:

Yep, there was some rueing going on.

He should have been gone sooner, IMO.

[Sam I Am]

Hopefully he ends up being the starting LT by the team the raper gets back on the field and because of Flo he gets the same treatment Eli got in his last preseason game.

Yeah, I like that.

[BehindEnemyLinez]

I was one who didn't think releasing Flo was a good idea. Not because I didn't think Free could handle it but because I figured he'd be quality depth at OT & maybe G if needed. Even if he's struggling a bit now in Pitt I still think he'll be better than Brewster, Young, & Barron if we needed to actually throw him into the lineup...

[Sam I Am]

Yep, there was some rueing going on.

He should have been gone sooner, IMO.

I disagree, I think the timing couldn't be better. I don't think Free was ready at the start of last season. I also think him filling in at RT gave him the game experience he needed before having to face the better pass rushers you see at LT.

I think things worked out perfect timing wise.

[juck]

Fletch I heard he played right guard? Either way yea I heard he sucked bad. I met him last week up at camp at St. vincents,i was jogging there and i astopped where they were at and he was getting water I said Go Cowboys to him and he winked lol

[CATCH17]

Knowing Flo he probably sat on his arse all offseason.

He'll eventually get into shape and do a good job for them.

[big dog cowboy]

We upgraded the LOT position this off season.

I don't care what Jamie Dukes says about it either.

[joseephuss]

Fletch I heard he played right guard? Either way yea I heard he sucked bad. I met him last week up at camp at St. vincents,i was jogging there and i astopped where they were at and he was getting water I said Go Cowboys to him and he winked lol

Was it right guard or right tackle? Either way, it is an adjustment. Plus he has to learn a new scheme. He is not going to learn all those things overnight.

Dallas did not cut Flozell due to performance. It was a combination of his performance and his cost. Dallas would have probably kept him around if they could have done so at the rate Pittsburgh is paying him, which was not going to happen.

[sonnyboy]

I was one who didn't think releasing Flo was a good idea. Not because I didn't think Free could handle it but because I figured he'd be quality depth at OT & maybe G if needed. Even if he's struggling a bit now in Pitt I still think he'll be better than Brewster, Young, & Barron if we needed to actually throw him into the lineup...


That was my thinking. As a SB contender in a year without a cap, you'd think we could afford one really high priced back-up.

But you have to realize they're often more to these decisions than we know about. Maybe they approached Adams early after the season about a deminished role in 2010 and a new diminished contract? Perhaps he balked and gave them the impression he would not care to stay HERE as a reserve.

Or maybe the felt his time in football is at an end.

I don't think Admas performance the other night has to be indicitive of what he'll d for the Steelers. He has to get the chance to get in game shape. We'll see.

[dozin_theknick]

[QUOTE=sonnyboy;3500842]That was my thinking. As a SB contender in a year without a cap, you'd think we could afford one really high priced back-up.
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Isn't that what RW is going to be?


Just have to stir the pot a bit.;)

[te0002]

That was my thinking. As a SB contender in a year without a cap, you'd think we could afford one really high priced back-up.

But you have to realize they're often more to these decisions than we know about. Maybe they approached Adams early after the season about a deminished role in 2010 and a new diminished contract? Perhaps he balked and gave them the impression he would not care to stay HERE as a reserve.

Or maybe the felt his time in football is at an end.

I don't think Admas performance the other night has to be indicitive of what he'll d for the Steelers. He has to get the chance to get in game shape. We'll see.

Absolutely - 1 pre-season game from a guy who just signed - and probably wasn't all that diligent in his off-season workouts - is certainly no indication of the type of player Adams can become for Pitt.

Too many people think Adams was released b/c he sucked and this is simply not true. As was mentioined above, Adams was released due to cost - which is hard to imagine in an uncapped year - plus the potential of Free combined with Adams performance. Yes, Adams performance played a role in the decision, but it certainly was not the primary factor, IMO.

I was not one of those who thought Adams should have been cut, but I did believe it was time to let Free take over. This may not have been a workable solution inside VR, but I think keeping Adams would have been the better insurance policy.

[LeonDixson]

I can't wait to hear all of the "experts" who were talking about how much we would rue losing Adams. :lmao2:

Do you really think you will hear any of the experts fess up? They will just change the story line.

[Alexander]

Was it right guard or right tackle? Either way, it is an adjustment. Plus he has to learn a new scheme. He is not going to learn all those things overnight.

Dallas did not cut Flozell due to performance. It was a combination of his performance and his cost. Dallas would have probably kept him around if they could have done so at the rate Pittsburgh is paying him, which was not going to happen.

He played right tackle. It is understandable he'd struggle doing that for the first time since he was a rookie. Cliff Avril whipped him badly on one sack where he simply was too slow out of his stance and Avril sped around him.

While I am sure it makes people feel better he's struggling, I'd still have liked to have had him battle it out for the left tackle job with Free. But instead of doing so, he was let go.

[LeonDixson]

The main point for me has nothing to do with how Flozell is playing or will play this year. It has everything to do with the experts, such as Jamie Dukes, predicting Free will be a disaster. I reiterate; I don't think you will ever hear most, if any, of them fess up to being wrong.

[BraveHeartFan]

Watching the game on NFL Network the other night I felt bad for Flo. He really struggled at RT in that game. It's probably going to be a very long year for him.

[tico]

Knowing Flo he probably sat on his arse all offseason.

He'll eventually get into shape and do a good job for them.
that's wha I think also, He is mainly out of shape

[burmafrd]

Playing RT after virtually not playing it ever; and a new system. Little early to write himoff yet.

[gimmesix]

Dallas did not cut Flozell due to performance. It was a combination of his performance and his cost. Dallas would have probably kept him around if they could have done so at the rate Pittsburgh is paying him, which was not going to happen.

I don't think Dallas would have kept him around, even with a low paycheck, because the Cowboys didn't want to keep him as the starter. It would be nice to believe that Adams would have accepted a backup role, but that's doubtful, and I don't think Jones even wanted to ask him to do that.

[Oh_Canada]

This is definately not hindsight as I thought he should have been cut a year ago...guy is washed up and JJ did the right thing by letting him go.

[Apluz]

Nate Newton & Galloway were just saying yesterday that it was a mistake to cut him.


I still love Nate but one thing I have noticed about him is he doubts and finds fault with every Cowboy player till they have proven themselves. He tend to also get caught up in the media hype. He was dissing Free's performance in the Vikings game and had nothing to say about Colombo.

Since then I have taken what he says about our team good or bad with a grain of salt.

[187beatdown]

Knowing Flo he probably sat on his arse all offseason.

He'll eventually get into shape and do a good job for them.

I think you're more determined for Flozell to do well than he is. :laugh2:

[Jed_70]

The main point for me has nothing to do with how Flozell is playing or will play this year. It has everything to do with the experts, such as Jamie Dukes, predicting Free will be a disaster. I reiterate; I don't think you will ever hear most, if any, of them fess up to being wrong.

Of course not. Most of these blow hards go on outrageous rants then when they're proven wrong you never hear another peep out of them.

But if they are proven right they are quick to pull out the 'I told you sos'.

[joseephuss]

This is definately not hindsight as I thought he should have been cut a year ago...guy is washed up and JJ did the right thing by letting him go.

If they cut Flozell a year ago, Dallas would not have made the playoffs in 2009.

[zrinkill]

I wish Flo luck ..... he should have retired a Cowboy.