I am now convinced that Ty Law is coming to Dallas

[Cajuncowboy]

Every time I read a story about a CB becoming available there is never a mention that Dallas has shown interest. We have made no moves to address the situation and I can not believe that BP is happy with the situation. So it must be that soemthing is already set to go down after June 1. Eventhough this is from Profootballtalk.com it would seem to me that we would have some kind of interest in McKenzie if we did not have another plan in place.

MCKENZIE GENERATING INTEREST



A league source tells us that several teams are interested in Packers cornerback Mike McKenzie, who recently received permission to seek a trade.



The Browns, who at one point were thinking seriously about taking DeAngelo Hall in the first round of last month's draft, are in the mix. We're hearing that, under such a scenario, the Browns would send quarterback Tim Couch and at least one draft pick to Green Bay for McKenzie.



The X factor in such discussions, however, is the willingness of Couch to reduce his salary. To date, Couch's financial expectations have kept a deal from getting done.



Other interested teams are the Ravens, Jags, and Eagles. In Baltimore, McKenzie would replace Corey Fuller, whose off-field troubles are giving the team an increasing level of discomfort. Adding McKenzie would permit the Ravens to keep Gary Baxter at safety. Baxter moved from corner to safety when Fuller was added to the roster as a free agent from Cleveland.

[Doomsday101]

Every time I read a story about a CB becoming available there is never a mention that Dallas has shown interest. We have made no moves to address the situation and I can not believe that BP is happy with the situation. So it must be that soemthing is already set to go down after June 1. Eventhough this is from Profootballtalk.com it would seem to me that we would have some kind of interest in McKenzie if we did not have another plan in place.

MCKENZIE GENERATING INTEREST



A league source tells us that several teams are interested in Packers cornerback Mike McKenzie, who recently received permission to seek a trade.



The Browns, who at one point were thinking seriously about taking DeAngelo Hall in the first round of last month's draft, are in the mix. We're hearing that, under such a scenario, the Browns would send quarterback Tim Couch and at least one draft pick to Green Bay for McKenzie.



The X factor in such discussions, however, is the willingness of Couch to reduce his salary. To date, Couch's financial expectations have kept a deal from getting done.



Other interested teams are the Ravens, Jags, and Eagles. In Baltimore, McKenzie would replace Corey Fuller, whose off-field troubles are giving the team an increasing level of discomfort. Adding McKenzie would permit the Ravens to keep Gary Baxter at safety. Baxter moved from corner to safety when Fuller was added to the roster as a free agent from Cleveland.

I would love to have Law or Mckenzie as far as that goes but not if we have to give up a 1st or 2nd to get them

[BrAinPaiNt]

I would like to see Law on this team....but I just do NOT see it happening for many reasons.

[NOVA 22]

Its just not happening. Their hasn't been a sound out of the Pats and that's because they have nothing to worry about. The guy is under contract, and he's going to play. He may not be happy, but he'll play and they know it.

The scary outcome of that article is the Eagles getting Mackenzie. in my mind, pretty much their only potential weakness is their corners - and even they're not as bad as advertised. If he ends up there, the NFC east will be a one horse race.

[Kangaroo]

Law is staying with the Pats and Dallas is just ready to go with Pete and the young guys

[Doomsday101]

Law is staying with the Pats and Dallas is just ready to go with Pete and the young guys




I think June 1st we will still see Dallas add some other players, I do not think they are willing to live or die off of Hunter just yet

[Kangaroo]

I think it depends on who is cut in june we may also look at camp cuts later on. If a young guy is playing well from another team and are trying to free up some cap dollars they may cut a solid vet we may add durning camp as well

[ABQCOWBOY]

Law is staying with the Pats and Dallas is just ready to go with Pete and the young guys




I think Roo is dead on here. Last year, I felt sure that we would not go into the season with the QBs we had on the roster. Sure did go in. Felt sure that we would bring in help at the DE spot. No help came. I would not count on things to happen because it seems like we should.

[Nors]

When asked about replacing Edwards he said they had a plan.

The hangup is what draft pick we give up.

Pats want a one and have rush or need to budge, yet. Pats don't want that Cap tied up in Law. We can resign Law to cap friendlt deal - there is the rub.

I agree - like Key - Law will be a Cowboy.

[Erik_H]

I think Roo is dead on here. Last year, I felt sure that we would not go into the season with the QBs we had on the roster. Sure did go in. Felt sure that we would bring in help at the DE spot. No help came. I would not count on things to happen because it seems like we should.

I pretty much agree here as well. If I were to bet on it, I'd go with us staying with the status quo or picking up a June 1 cast-off.

However, I would not rule out Law entirely. The Pats and the Cowboys play the media in very similar ways, in that they are very tight-lipped. The fact that nothing has been stated from either side is par for the course with these two teams.

Plus, there is the connection that Law was drafted by Parcells along with the connection that Pioli (Pats GM) is BP's son-in-law. If something were to happen, it would have to be beneficial for both sides.


In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if the concept has been discussed behind closed doors, but I don't see the deal actually going through.

[Bach]

Pats want a one and have rush or need to budge, yet. Pats don't want that Cap tied up in Law. We can resign Law to cap friendlt deal - there is the rub.

I agree - like Key - Law will be a Cowboy.


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[blindzebra]

I think Roo is dead on here. Last year, I felt sure that we would not go into the season with the QBs we had on the roster. Sure did go in. Felt sure that we would bring in help at the DE spot. No help came. I would not count on things to happen because it seems like we should.

We brought in Ogbogu and Coleman at DE.

[ABQCOWBOY]

We brought in Ogbogu and Coleman at DE.

Two things here.

1. Not sure that either of them were brought in before the season had started. If they had then I stand corrected.

2. Can you honestly say that either of them made a significant difference in our pass rush from the DE spot? So much difference that we went right out and signed Wiley.

[Mike 1967]

Every time I read a story about a CB becoming available there is never a mention that Dallas has shown interest. We have made no moves to address the situation and I can not believe that BP is happy with the situation. So it must be that soemthing is already set to go down after June 1. Eventhough this is from Profootballtalk.com it would seem to me that we would have some kind of interest in McKenzie if we did not have another plan in place.

MCKENZIE GENERATING INTEREST



A league source tells us that several teams are interested in Packers cornerback Mike McKenzie, who recently received permission to seek a trade.



The Browns, who at one point were thinking seriously about taking DeAngelo Hall in the first round of last month's draft, are in the mix. We're hearing that, under such a scenario, the Browns would send quarterback Tim Couch and at least one draft pick to Green Bay for McKenzie.



The X factor in such discussions, however, is the willingness of Couch to reduce his salary. To date, Couch's financial expectations have kept a deal from getting done.



Other interested teams are the Ravens, Jags, and Eagles. In Baltimore, McKenzie would replace Corey Fuller, whose off-field troubles are giving the team an increasing level of discomfort. Adding McKenzie would permit the Ravens to keep Gary Baxter at safety. Baxter moved from corner to safety when Fuller was added to the roster as a free agent from Cleveland.


Let me be the first to welcome you to this grassy knoll.

There is plenty of room. Enjoy your stay :)

I have been here for sometime :D

[Idgit]

Put me in the camp that thinks it's unlikely, but one thing I have noticed: after shooting his mouth off twice in one week calling BB a liar, Law's been awfully quiet. Not what I'd expect from a player angling for his release.

Now, he may be shutting up because of the PR backlash, but it might also be that something's in the works with somebody.

[AJM1613]

Its just not happening. Their hasn't been a sound out of the Pats and that's because they have nothing to worry about. The guy is under contract, and he's going to play. He may not be happy, but he'll play and they know it.

The scary outcome of that article is the Eagles getting Mackenzie. in my mind, pretty much their only potential weakness is their corners - and even they're not as bad as advertised. If he ends up there, the NFC east will be a one horse race.
The Packers said to McKenzie that he could negotiate a trade to anywhere except Philadelphia, I wonder why? :cool: I'll post the article if you like.

[Hostile]

The Packers said to McKenzie that he could negotiate a trade to anywhere except Philadelphia, I wonder why? :cool: I'll post the article if you like.
Naw, none of us really care about that team.

:D

[Clay_Allison]

Two things here.

1. Not sure that either of them were brought in before the season had started. If they had then I stand corrected.

2. Can you honestly say that either of them made a significant difference in our pass rush from the DE spot? So much difference that we went right out and signed Wiley.

1. They were both signed well before the start of the season

2. True, but they did provide depth, and Ogbogu was a bit better than Ek. What we need at corner and Safety is depth. Our setup at both positions is a house of cards.

[blindzebra]

Two things here.

1. Not sure that either of them were brought in before the season had started. If they had then I stand corrected.

2. Can you honestly say that either of them made a significant difference in our pass rush from the DE spot? So much difference that we went right out and signed Wiley.

They were both picked up during preseason. We signed Ogbogu to an extention and Parcells has said good things about both and our DL depth this offseason. Ogbogu had 3.5 sacks, which were more than Ekuban.

Wiley is replacing Ellis, Ellis is replacing Ekuban, and since we did not draft any DEs I'd say Parcells must have thought they made some difference.

[AJM1613]

Naw, none of us really care about that team.

:D
That is why I didn't post it.

[junk]

That is why I didn't post it.

Hey AJM, I met Kearse this last weekend. He was a heck of a nice guy. Wonder how long of playing and living in Philly it will take for that to change. :D

[CowboysNumeroUno]

Put me in the camp that thinks it's unlikely, but one thing I have noticed: after shooting his mouth off twice in one week calling BB a liar, Law's been awfully quiet. Not what I'd expect from a player angling for his release.

Now, he may be shutting up because of the PR backlash, but it might also be that something's in the works with somebody.

I was thinking the exact same thing...

Either he gave up trying to leave New England...

Or

A trade is worked out for after June 1st or something like that

(not necessarily to the cowboys)

[Irving Cowboy]

Its just not happening. Their hasn't been a sound out of the Pats and that's because they have nothing to worry about.

Then again you didn't hear anything out of Houston or Dallas about the Henson trade, everyone was pretty quiet about that... the draft was another swift kick as a reminder that we really don't know what kinds of things are being thrown around between Jerry, Bill, and the rest of the league...

[twa]

Hey AJM, I met Kearse this last weekend. He was a heck of a nice guy. Wonder how long of playing and living in Philly it will take for that to change. :D
LMAO Too short ,thats about right. :rolleyes:

[Hostile]

Hey AJM, I met Kearse this last weekend. He was a heck of a nice guy. Wonder how long of playing and living in Philly it will take for that to change. :D
I bet you think he's a mean son of a gun right about the time our QB has trainers checking on him after a Freak sack. All that good will shot to heck.

[silver]

it seems the bp & jj admin picks its spots to make a splash in free agency. we said HELL NO to all the high profile free agents this off season. other than terry glenn who was a first round draft choice of parcells back in '96 and keyshawn johnson who also played for him, all the players bp has brought on board are obgobus and richie anderson's types. not household names at all. dinapoli, campbell, bates, singleton, young etc etc. and even glenn and johnson were picked up at bargain prices and relatively cheap contracts. one thing this adiministration is: frugal. we haven't seen the overspending-philipi-sparks-type of situation this time around like we did in prior years. even our so called QOF was acquired by a mere 3rd round pick. the only way we see veteran hekp added after june 1st is if they come relatively cheap both in terms of money and draft picks.

[Nors]

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/cliffnotes.jpg


I was actually at work posting that at work. Rushed it

Meant to says Pats in no rush to make Ty DEAL.
& a TYPO, Cliff Note this :)

[Bach]

No problem Nors....just messing with ya

[Cajuncowboy]

Let me be the first to welcome you to this grassy knoll.

There is plenty of room. Enjoy your stay :)

I have been here for sometime :D

Thank you. It's kinda lonley over here though. Ya think it might get crowded after June 1st?

[Cajuncowboy]

Put me in the camp that thinks it's unlikely, but one thing I have noticed: after shooting his mouth off twice in one week calling BB a liar, Law's been awfully quiet. Not what I'd expect from a player angling for his release.

Now, he may be shutting up because of the PR backlash, but it might also be that something's in the works with somebody.

Also keep in mind that it is extremly out of character for someone who is a client of the Postons. If there was not something already done, the Postons would be screaming and yelling about how their man is being Dissed by the Pats. I think in 12 days Law is a Cowboy. Or at least on a team other than the Pats. If not Us it could be the Packers. If the Pack loses McKenzie they could easily trade the pick they aquire to the Pats for Law. Just thinking.

[Nors]

Also keep in mind that it is extremly out of character for someone who is a client of the Postons. If there was not something already done, the Postons would be screaming and yelling about how their man is being Dissed by the Pats. I think in 12 days Law is a Cowboy. Or at least on a team other than the Pats. If not Us it could be the Packers. If the Pack loses McKenzie they could easily trade the pick they aquire to the Pats for Law. Just thinking.

I sense Ty has a contract in place with Boys just as Milloy did. This is all about draft pick compensation. Pats want a one, we don't want to pay a 1. This will drag on past 6-1 - JMO

We get him for our 2nd First rounder and we get a throw in player - Larry Izzo on top of Law

[Hostile]

I sense Ty has a contract in place with Boys just as Milloy did. This is all about draft pick compensation. Pats want a one, we don't want to pay a 1. This will drag on past 6-1 - JMO

We get him for our 2nd First rounder and we get a throw in player - Larry Izzo on top of Law
Milloy had a contract in place with the Cowboys? Then why did he go to Buffalo?

I don't think law will be here, but I won't hate it.

[Cajuncowboy]

Milloy had a contract in place with the Cowboys? Then why did he go to Buffalo?

I don't think law will be here, but I won't hate it.

I think he meant like the deal that Milloy had with Buffalo. Not Dallas.

[Nors]

I think he meant like the deal that Milloy had with Buffalo. Not Dallas.

Its not below agents to troll for contract offers on the sly

[jdnalls]

I would like to see Law on this team....but I just do NOT see it happening for many reasons.
Yeah, the Postons for one.

[jdnalls]

I sense Ty has a contract in place with Boys just as Milloy did. This is all about draft pick compensation. Pats want a one, we don't want to pay a 1. This will drag on past 6-1 - JMO

We get him for our 2nd First rounder and we get a throw in player - Larry Izzo on top of Law
Nors, lately you seem to be pulling too much out of your backside. Wait until you actually have facts before you go spreading more typical Nors rumors.

[Bach]

Frankly, I don't see any solid indications that Ty is on his way to Dallas. And I would be ticked if we gave up either of our first rounders next year for a 30-something year old CB. Granted he is good and will probably be good for a few more seasons, but you don't want to use a #1 pick on a player who will only be at a high level for 2-3 years.

I'd much rather keep both #1's and hopefully get two players who will start for us for 6+ years.

[jdnalls]

Frankly, I don't see any solid indications that Ty is on his way to Dallas. And I would be ticked if we gave up either of our first rounders next year for a 30-something year old CB. Granted he is good and will probably be good for a few more seasons, but you don't want to use a #1 pick on a player who will only be at a high level for 2-3 years.

I'd much rather keep both #1's and hopefully get two players who will start for us for 6+ years.
There weren't any indications of that happening.

It's just more typical Nors conspiracies.

[Hostile]

I think he meant like the deal that Milloy had with Buffalo. Not Dallas.
Yeah, I know. Just pulling his leg.

He comes up with the best conspiracy theories on the forum. One day one of them will stick and we'll never hear the end of it.

[drover]

Milloy had a contract in place with the Cowboys? Then why did he go to Buffalo?

I don't think law will be here, but I won't hate it.

New to the board drover the name: I feel that they will go with what they have this year 1 Hunter did show some flash and they want to get a better look at correcting his mistakes. 2 They aren,t going to give a draft choice out of next years draft in the event Hunter doesn't work out they have two frist rounders and one could go to the best CB. 3 Law is plain going to cost too much and JJ has the rep to be quite fruggle with the cap money. Also Law's age will play a factor on how many years he could contribute if they did come off a bundle to pay him. He wants too much money. I know there are ties to Mr. Bill and Law but I don't think it would be in their best interest to tie up future cap money for a player that has been un the league as long as he has. They'll go with a younger player to make future contributions. Thats my Rulen. :rolleyes:

[Nors]

There weren't any indications of that happening.

It's just more typical Nors conspiracies.


There are indications and talk of that here in New England country.
And BTW it is slow going into training camp. Whats wrong with discussing a Law pickup?

[TruBlueCowboy]

I wouldn't mind the Cowboys spending a high draft pick and high salary on Ty Law. The Cowboys may not be one player away from a Super Bowl team, but they are one player away from a devastating defense. Ty Law and Terence Newman, I still drool thinking about it. I'd love to see it happen. I won't jump off the Ty Law bandwagon until the first week of the season.

[btcutter]

Frankly, I don't see any solid indications that Ty is on his way to Dallas. And I would be ticked if we gave up either of our first rounders next year for a 30-something year old CB. Granted he is good and will probably be good for a few more seasons, but you don't want to use a #1 pick on a player who will only be at a high level for 2-3 years.

I'd much rather keep both #1's and hopefully get two players who will start for us for 6+ years.

I am not for trading a #1 for Law. However, if I can get guarrenteed good/pro bowel yrs from proven..ie >4yrs, I would think hard about that. Statistics have shown that at least 1/2 of the 1st rounders never live up to the hype and some are out of the league by yr 4, while other are just steady performers.

[Nors]

I am not for trading a #1 for Law. However, if I can get guarrenteed good/pro bowel yrs from proven..ie >4yrs, I would think hard about that. Statistics have shown that at least 1/2 of the 1st rounders never live up to the hype and some are out of the league by yr 4, while other are just steady performers.

Law is a natural to move to free safety and could play in the NFL well into his mid/late 30's.

Do you do it for a 2? I think the Pats are playing hardball and holding for a 1.
This will play out in training camp.

[btcutter]

Law is a natural to move to free safety and could play in the NFL well into his mid/late 30's.

Do you do it for a 2? I think the Pats are playing hardball and holding for a 1.
This will play out in training camp.

I probably do it and try to get a 5 from the Pats in return.

If Law can get us at least 2 very good years at corner and 2 yrs at FS, it's a worthy investment. Think of all the 2nd round busts we had, not to mention around the league. Dillion went for a 2 and RB tend to hit the wall at 30. Law has a better chance than Dillion at performing in terms of longevity.

2nd rounder is reasonable. I know we all like to think of what we can get potentially with a 2nd but at the same that it comes with great risks.

[Kangaroo]

No no no

We are keeping our draft picks

[Nors]

Monday, December 16, 1996

Ty Law got the best of Michael Irvin

By JIM DONALDSON / Providence Journal-Bulletin (Dec. 16, 1996)

IRVING, Tex. (KRT) - To Ty Law, it was an act of faith.

To Bill Parcells, it was simply common sense for him to have Law cover Michael Irvin, 1-on-1, wherever the Cowboys' all-pro wide receiver went. "Michael is their best receiver," Parcells said. "Ty is our best corner."

It was the best against the best and, when it was over, you'd have to say that Law got the best of Irvin.

Even though Irvin led the Cowboys with 6 catches for 76 yards, he didn't make any big plays.

Law made two huge plays, and a Stetson-full of other good ones.

Early in the first quarter, he intercepted a pass from Troy Aikman intended for Irvin at the Dallas 37, setting up a field goal.

Then, with the Cowboys leading 12-6 early in the fourth quarter and facing a 3rd-and-1 at the Patriots' 7, Law came from out of nowhere to pick off a pass in the end zone intended for tight end Johnny Mitchell.

"Coach Parcells put his faith in me that I could go 1-on-1 with Michael Irvin the whole game," Law said.

"Not too many coaches would have done that. I was thankful he believed in me. I just tried to go out and get the job done."

Not too many corners could have done the job Law did on Irvin.

Not only did he make two interceptions, but he also broke up three other passes, and made seven tackles.

It was an opportunity for Law. An opportunity to look very good. Or very bad.

Irvin, despite his off-field problems, can cause even more problems to opposing defensive backs.

He sat out the first five games this season on a drug suspension, but still leads the Cowboys with 63 receptions for 965 yards.

Irvin caught a career-high 111 passes last season for 1,603 yards - the fifth year in a row he's had at least 78 receptions and gained more than 1,200 yards.

"I was looking forward to the opportunity to play a guy like that," Law said. "There is no better test. He's big, he's aggressive, he's very physical.

"I was looking forward to the challenge. Any cornerback would love the opportunity to see who's the better man."

Law, who last week against the Jets returned an interception 38 yards for a touchdown, was at his best on Sunday.

"I knew at the beginning of the week (Irvin) was going to be my assignment," Law said. "Vincent Brisby and Ray Lucas did a great job imitating Michael Irvin all week in practice. They helped me out a lot."

Lucas, a former quarterback at Rutgers who was activated last week off the practice squad, said he tried to be as physical as possible in practice while running Irvin's favorite routes.

"I tried to use my strength," said Lucas, a 6-2, 201-pounder. "I did a lot of pushing and tugging, because that's part of Michael's game."

It's also the way Law likes to play the game.

"There was a lot of pushing out there," said Law, "and some face mask-grabbing. That's how Michael is - he tries to intimidate people.

"But that's okay. That's my style, too."

Law played Irvin perfectly on his first interception.

When Irvin broke to the sideline, Law came up quickly and picked off the pass.

"I read the route well," Law said. "I just stepped in front of him and came up with the play."

Irvin was out of the game when Law made his clutch, fourth-quarter interception.

"Daryl Johnston came out of the backfield, into the flat, and I was all over him," Law said. "When I saw Troy look to the tight end (Mitchell), I broke to the end zone as fast as I could and, luckily, got there just in time.

"It couldn't have come at a better time, because it looked like Dallas was going to come away with at least three points."

Instead, the Cowboys came up empty.

Unfortunately, the usually-potent New England offense wasn't producing much in the way of points.

"It's very frustrating," Law said, "because we could have gone into our final game with a (playoff) bye already locked up.

"We wanted to take advantage of this opportunity to beat the world champions, but we came up short.

"But we can learn from this game. We know now that we can play with these guys."

(c) 1996, Providence Journal-Bulletin. Distributed by Knight-Ridder/Tribune Information Services.

[Hostile]

New to the board drover the name: I feel that they will go with what they have this year 1 Hunter did show some flash and they want to get a better look at correcting his mistakes. 2 They aren,t going to give a draft choice out of next years draft in the event Hunter doesn't work out they have two frist rounders and one could go to the best CB. 3 Law is plain going to cost too much and JJ has the rep to be quite fruggle with the cap money. Also Law's age will play a factor on how many years he could contribute if they did come off a bundle to pay him. He wants too much money. I know there are ties to Mr. Bill and Law but I don't think it would be in their best interest to tie up future cap money for a player that has been un the league as long as he has. They'll go with a younger player to make future contributions. Thats my Rulen. :rolleyes:
Welcome to the forum. Enjoy your time here. I love the username because I love the old west.

[Hostile]

There are indications and talk of that here in New England country.
And BTW it is slow going into training camp. Whats wrong with discussing a Law pickup?
Nothing at all.

Ford pickups neither. I like the new F-150 club cab. Man she's sweet. ;)

[Nors]

Nothing at all.

Ford pickups neither. I like the new F-150 club cab. Man she's sweet. ;)

I'd prefer to pick up a Hilton, Paris

[Hostile]

I'd prefer to pick up a Hilton, Paris
I like you Nors. You got a sense of humor and a certain style.