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irvin88
02-15-2005, 06:46 PM
Mark Gaughan, of the Buffalo News, reports the Buffalo Bills are not expected to designate DT Pat Williams their franchise player this offseason. The price to franchise tag Williams, who is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent in March, is the average of the top five salary cap figures at his position ($5.1 million).

Champsheart
02-15-2005, 07:03 PM
Mark Gaughan, of the Buffalo News, reports the Buffalo Bills are not expected to designate DT Pat Williams their franchise player this offseason. The price to franchise tag Williams, who is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent in March, is the average of the top five salary cap figures at his position ($5.1 million).

Yes, SIGN HIM!

Sign him the first day of FA.
Fly him in, and hold him at gun point if required until he signs the contract.

I do not care if we go 3-4 or stay 4-3.
Pat Williams can be a big part of the puzzle.

Hostile
02-15-2005, 07:05 PM
Mark Gaughan, of the Buffalo News, reports the Buffalo Bills are not expected to designate DT Pat Williams their franchise player this offseason. The price to franchise tag Williams, who is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent in March, is the average of the top five salary cap figures at his position ($5.1 million).I wouldn't hate it. I have a sneaking suspicion he is going to cause a bidding war with other teams thinking of switching.

Chocolate Lab
02-15-2005, 07:05 PM
Yes, SIGN HIM!

Sign him the first day of FA.
Fly him in, and hold him at gun point if required until he signs the contract.

I do not care if we go 3-4 or stay 4-3.
Pat Williams can be a big part of the puzzle.
Agree 100%

KingTuna
02-15-2005, 07:06 PM
YES Sign Pat Williams!! He is an awesome DT...VERY underated...Would be the perfect nose tackle in the 3-4 defense....

Bledsoe and Williams!

Cbz40
02-15-2005, 07:11 PM
Yes, SIGN HIM!

Sign him the first day of FA.
Fly him in, and hold him at gun point if required until he signs the contract.

I do not care if we go 3-4 or stay 4-3.
Pat Williams can be a big part of the puzzle.


I agree to a certain to a certain point........Have no problem as to how good a player he is but we need to remember we have other holes to fill.


If BP signs Bledsoe, how much? FS how much? CB?, OL?

fortdick
02-15-2005, 07:15 PM
Yes, SIGN HIM!

Sign him the first day of FA.
Fly him in, and hold him at gun point if required until he signs the contract.

I do not care if we go 3-4 or stay 4-3.
Pat Williams can be a big part of the puzzle.
"The next day, my Father went back to see him. This time with Luca Brasi. Luca held a gun to his head and my father assured him either his brains or his signature would be on the paper." Michael Corleone

"I'm gonna make him an offer he don't refuse" young Vito Corleone

If he don't sign, send him fishing with Fredo!

HeHateMe
02-15-2005, 10:05 PM
He'd be perfect to man the middle in the 3-4, but he is 33 and fast coming up on the end of the line.

Portland Fanatic
02-15-2005, 10:09 PM
This is one guy we can ALL agree on...or Fergi, if not you're feak'in IDIOTS:banghead:

junk
02-15-2005, 10:10 PM
This is one guy we can ALL agree on...or Fergi, if not you're feak'in IDIOTS:banghead:

I would way rather have Ferguson.

Portland Fanatic
02-15-2005, 10:15 PM
I would way rather have Ferguson.
Either one...I'm pretty happy. Both can plug the middle...such a desperate need for this team!

Ken
02-15-2005, 10:23 PM
I would way rather have Ferguson.
I definitely like Ferguson better for the 4-3.

I think he can play the nose in the 3-4, just not completely sure because he hasn't done it.

I really like Pat Williams, but at 33, his price is going to be very high and almost not worth it.

BulletBob
02-15-2005, 11:24 PM
"The next day, my Father went back to see him. This time with Luca Brasi. Luca held a gun to his head and my father assured him either his brains or his signature would be on the paper." Michael Corleone

"I'm gonna make him an offer he don't refuse" young Vito Corleone

If he don't sign, send him fishing with Fredo!

Hail Mary ....

Hostile
02-15-2005, 11:47 PM
Either one...I'm pretty happy. Both can plug the middle...such a desperate need for this team!Why not draft a DT then and have him for more than 2 or 3 years worth of contribution?

Eskimo
02-16-2005, 12:37 AM
Why not draft a DT then and have him for more than 2 or 3 years worth of contribution?

You mean like Willie Blade?

In principle, I agree with you.

In practice, we haven't been able to draft effectively at DL for many, many years now.

I'd rather just pay the price in FA and know what I'm getting than waste more draft picks here who end up being busts.

Hiero
02-16-2005, 01:58 AM
Why not draft a DT then and have him for more than 2 or 3 years worth of contribution?
Because theres already one that fits exactly exactly what we need, who is proven, and can still do it. We also have way more than enough cap room, and filling the key DT spot without using a pick would be great. I also dont really see anyone at the DT spot in the draft that would come close to contributing as much as Pat Williams would the next couple years.

ghst187
02-16-2005, 05:22 AM
Why not draft a DT then and have him for more than 2 or 3 years worth of contribution?

because all the guys in the draft have some big question marks by them and I don't see any coming from this draft producing as well as Fergi or Williams, ever.

Hostile
02-16-2005, 07:16 AM
because all the guys in the draft have some big question marks by them and I don't see any coming from this draft producing as well as Fergi or Williams, ever.Thanks for answering guys.

I'm tired of dinosaurs and near dinosaurs. I'd prefer a younger Free Agent class or a solid draft class. I don't have zero faith in draft picks being able to match Williams or Ferguson's successes.