Boise State Vs. VT

[Hoofbite]

Boise coming out strong.

Aside from the PI on the opening flea flicker, the defense looks good and the special teams set up for a short TD.

Gotta believe VT will settle down and when that happens, should be a good game.

[Hypnotoad]

I support home teams being humiliated at fedex field

[TheCoolFan]

Great atmosphere. Fedex Field makes for a crappy NFL stadium but for a college game, it's great

[Rampage]

the Blue Crew putting a hurting on V-Tech

17-0 now still in the 1st quarter

[Hoofbite]

WOW!

Did you see that catch?

[TheCowboy]

A Former Varsity player from my high school plays for Virginia Tech. I was fortunate to have practice with him and his team for the whole 2009 season for my JV team, even though he was varsity. His name is Jerome Lewis. He's the Backup (I think, or it could be 3rd string) TE.

[Hypnotoad]

amazing catch there by 85 Gallarda

VT fans mad

[Hoofbite]

amazing catch there by 85 Gallarda

VT fans mad

They showed a brunette right up front and you could see her mouth "That's BS".

That was a great play all around.

[Hoofbite]

Tyrod Taylor looks to be a hell of an athlete.

[Shuttemdown41]

Anyone else notice the video boards little Danny put up to try to keep up with the Joneses? LOL!! They're tiny!!!

[CATCH17]

If you want to see what a well coached team looks like watch Boise State.

They are so well coached that it's overwhelming VT.

[Vintage]

Took VT only 1 quarter to complete a pass.

[Vintage]

. There was nowhere to go on that. Boise run defense stout there.

[Hoofbite]

Anyone else notice the video boards little Danny put up to try to keep up with the Joneses? LOL!! They're tiny!!!

I haven't noticed yet.

I'mma have to look.

[CATCH17]

. There was nowhere to go on that. Boise run defense stout there.

They contest every single play.

[kmp77]

Anyone else notice the video boards little Danny put up to try to keep up with the Joneses? LOL!! They're tiny!!!

Yeah, they don't look impressive. And half of the screen is ads so what's the point of the new "video" boards????????

[Vintage]

I haven't noticed yet.

I'mma have to look.

They look like 13" TVS compared to Jerry's monstrosity.

[Hoofbite]

DB didn't even turn on the ball.

Could have been PI if he got there just a tad sooner.

Hell of leg right there.

[Vintage]

Boise kicker channeling his inner Buehler.

[Hoofbite]

Yeah, they don't look impressive. And half of the screen is ads so what's the point of the new "video" boards????????

I just took a look at your lock screen schedule. Game 1 is listed as taking place on the 1st of Sept.

[Yeagermeister]

Boise is kicking some booty

[Hoofbite]

Why pooch it?

Boise kicker was banging em deep into the endzone early.

Just gave up a bunch of yards right there.

[Hoofbite]

I like the VT helmets.

That flat black looks nice.

[Hoofbite]

VT waking up.

Getting big plays on 3rd down.

[Yeagermeister]

VT waking up.

Getting big plays on 3rd down.

Yup they are calming down a bit.

Stupid penalty by Boise

[Hypnotoad]

left hash got him

[Vintage]

Vandershank made an appearance I see...

[Hoofbite]

Yup they are calming down a bit.

Stupid penalty by Boise

I think that was the guy that got sucker punched by the Oregon player last year.

No harm, no foul after the missed FG.

[Hoofbite]

Poor ball security on that drive.

Looked like Boise fumbled 2 plays prior to the turnover.

[ChldsPlay]

I'm recording this on my DVR because it's on ESPN 3D. Finally get to see how football looks in 3D. Tried the 2D-3D conversion on a preseason game and it was pretty good, should be better being native 3D.

[crazyfool]

Go Boise State! I've been going to Boise State games since 1995, I got my second ticket ever for free from J.R. Siimplot, if you know who that is...my grandfather used to work for him...point being I've been waiting for us to solidfy ourselves as a strong program for a long time...not to mention I'm a sophmore there, lol...I have a feeling I might get out of 1 or 2 classes a bit early tomorrow if we win:), and I could sure use it.

Anyway, Go Broncos, and Go Cowboys!

take care,

Mat.

[rkell87]

I like the VT helmets.

That flat black looks nice.
i was thinking that too, if i were a team with any dark helmet i would switch to the flat color, like maybe oregon in dark green or even TAMU the maroon would look good in the flat paint too

[Hoofbite]

Boise needs to catch a second wind or they will get left behind.

[Hypnotoad]

wow momentum has shifted

[Hoofbite]

Hell of a game.

[crazyfool]

wow...that botched ep made my skin crawl...I'm so nervous.

[Hoofbite]

Stupid special teams plays have crippled both teams.

Boise just shot itself in the foot.

[Hoofbite]

Neither team has been anything special on special teams.

Missed FGs on both sides, missed PAT, stupid penalties on punts.

[Bizwah]

My cousin used to be a professor at BSU. He just left this past year.

[tomson75]

This game is amazing.

That Tyrod Taylor run where he used the top of his hand to keep the ball from hitting the ground was unreal.

[Hoofbite]

This game is amazing.

That Tyrod Taylor run where he used the top of his hand to keep the ball from hitting the ground was unreal.

Yeah. That was pretty crazy.

[Rampage]

This game is amazing.

That Tyrod Taylor run where he used the top of his hand to keep the ball from hitting the ground was unreal.
it was real. you're just too trashed to know it, Van Wilder

[TheCoolFan]

Yesss one chance for another Boise State winning drive

Good no-call! He got em on the side

[tomson75]

Tech is setting themselves up.....I hate this scenario.

[Hoofbite]

This game is nuts.

[jimmy40]

bull**** call there

[Hoofbite]

You can't be serious.

This has got to be one of the best games I've seen in a long while.

[jimmy40]

thank you refs

[Hoofbite]

bull**** call there

It was late but you really like to see them let em play right there.

Dude's going all out and it was a tightrope call.

I wouldn't have called the penalty.

[Hypnotoad]

this game

[Hoofbite]

VT should just go for a TD.

Their kicker is shaky, shaky.

[Hoofbite]

Taylor has a cannon.

[Rampage]

Taylor sacked!

[casmith07]

Pathetic. Should have spread them out and thrown underneath - got two timeouts to make it 65 yards for a TD, less than that for a FG?

Absolutely pathetic. Virginia Tech should be ashamed. Horrendous defense throughout.

[casmith07]

The only thing that makes me upset about this, is that sure they beat a "big name" school (despite Virginia Tech really not being deserving of a preseason #10 ranking), but now they'll go along their usual tour of beating teams on their weak schedule and then the media will clamor for them to play in the national title game.

I hope that if they do make it, they get absolutely dominated. Either that or lose to a garbage team along the way.

[jimmy40]

now Boise gets to take the rest of the year off after beating always overated VTech and real conference teams have to actually play somebody.

[casmith07]

now Boise gets to take the rest of the year off after beating always overated VTech and real conference teams have to actually play somebody.

Glad I'm not the only one that sees this.

Pundits will point to this game against an overrated, sloppy VT team at the beginning of the season in their screams for Boise State to play in the national title game.

The himming and hawing about them beating TCU is pissing me off as well. TCU is not some top-tier program. They struggled to beat Army when I was at USMA.

BUT I think Virginia Tech was channeling their inner Jason Garret in there, throwing on 3rd down while in the lead. GARBAGE playcalling.

[miamicowboy21]

Way to go Beamer. 3rd and 8 and Boise with no timeouts and you pass. Also bud foster how about applying some heat to Kellen Moore in the end. Pathetic!

[jimmy40]

Glad I'm not the only one that sees this.

Pundits will point to this game against an overrated, sloppy VT team at the beginning of the season in their screams for Boise State to play in the national title game.

The himming and hawing about them beating TCU is pissing me off as well. TCU is not some top-tier program. They struggled to beat Army when I was at USMA.

BUT I think Virginia Tech was channeling their inner Jason Garret in there, throwing on 3rd down while in the lead. GARBAGE playcalling.this most likely just turned the whole freaking college season into a joke

[jimmy40]

Kellen Moore is shorter than the woman interviewing him.

[Hoofbite]

The only thing that makes me upset about this, is that sure they beat a "big name" school (despite Virginia Tech really not being deserving of a preseason #10 ranking), but now they'll go along their usual tour of beating teams on their weak schedule and then the media will clamor for them to play in the national title game.

I hope that if they do make it, they get absolutely dominated. Either that or lose to a garbage team along the way.

Why the hate?

[Hoofbite]

Kellen Moore is shorter than the woman interviewing him.

He needs to be taught that it is acceptable to ask the reporters to take their shoes off when you are playing in DC.

[rkell87]

to be fair Boise scheduled #24 Oregon state and they scheduled the toughest opponents that were willing to play them. not their fault they are stranded in a bad conference

[Hoofbite]

this most likely just turned the whole freaking college season into a joke

The entire college season is a joke to begin with.

The fact that teams get absolutely no reward for peaking at the end of the season is absolutely ridiculous.

I honestly don't know why people are worried. The BCS will do everything they can to make sure Boise State doesn't get to that game.

Don't worry fellas, lopsided voting and a garbage system will win out, as always.

[Hoofbite]

I don't care who you were rooting for, that game was amazing.

Great start to the football season. Little sloppy at times on both sides. Missed FGs, Boise committed a ton of penalties and got sloppy with the ball during a drive but that game delivered.

[Hoofbite]

I was really impressed with Tyrod Taylor.

Aside from going tunnel vision at the end and airing it out, he played a really good game. Dudes athletic as all hell and actually has a little touch on the ball.

He's got a hell of a deep ball too. If he keeps throwing bombs, he's gonna start a fire in Al Davis' panties and end up in Oakland.

[hornitosmonster]

Great Game. Boise has demonstrated the need for a playoff system. Oklahoma, Oregon, Va Tech will tell you about Boise State

[Muhast]

VT needs to make those their every game uni's.

I love how those look.

I posted a link showing the 10 Nike "pro-combat" and those were my favorite ones.

[Rampage]

VT needs to make those their every game uni's.

I love how those look.

I posted a link showing the 10 Nike "pro-combat" and those were my favorite ones.

it looked like they wrote on the numbers with a marker

[Muhast]

it looked like they wrote on the numbers with a marker


Every team has something on the numbers.

Fla-gator skin look
Ala-Houndstooth look
Mia-Palm tree look

I'm not sure what the hokies look is but I like it.

[2much2soon]

Why the hate?

BCS homer fans.

This current Boise State team can play with anybody. They had several key defensive players dinged up going into this game, enough so that they didn't play in the Fall game.

Ton of penalties tonight, but probably the best coached team in college football in terms of executing on the field.

And they are fast, and physical.

[Kangaroo]

Also what happens to the Boise's of the world when they get good the BCS teams refuse to play them because they are afraid of winning so it is harder to play out of conference games as a Boise and they always have to go on the road for them.

The BCS is a joke and until they get a playoff like the rest of college sports including the rest of college football they will always suck

[Muhast]

BCS homer fans.

This current Boise State team can play with anybody. They had several key defensive players dinged up going into this game, enough so that they didn't play in the Fall game.

Ton of penalties tonight, but probably the best coached team in college football in terms of executing on the field.

And they are fast, and physical.

I'll put it this way, if they played like they did tonight... They would have beaten the Florida Gators team that showed up last saturday by 20-30 points.

[Muhast]

Also what happens to the Boise's of the world when they get good the BCS teams refuse to play them because they are afraid of winning so it is harder to play out of conference games as a Boise and they always have to go on the road for them.

The BCS is a joke and until they get a playoff like the rest of college sports including the rest of college football they will always suck

Another simple way would be re-do the scheduling.

Make each team play an equally ranked team of a different conference each year. ( It can rotate)

Example:

Lets say it's a big ten vs. SEC year.

Alabama won the SEC, Ohio state won the Big 10. The following year Ohio St and Alabama would play.
Florida was 2nd, so they'd play the 2nd rank team in the big 10.

By doing so, you only have to change one game per season for each team and the added difficulty would knock out a lot of the smaller conference teams that don't play tough schedules. OR it would strengthen their schedule and give them more legitimacy in the BCS ranking.

Just an idea. Obviously there would be things that would work and wouldn't work about it but I think it'd be a start since they seem to refuse to go with a playoff system.

At least this would make the undefeated's less common.

[windward]

I hate Boise.

(Hawaii alum here)

[casmith07]

to be fair Boise scheduled #24 Oregon state and they scheduled the toughest opponents that were willing to play them. not their fault they are stranded in a bad conference

It is their fault. They could actively petition to join a conference where they'll routinely play tough talent, like the Pac 10 or the Big XII.

Oregon State being ranked #24 is a far cry from playing top tier talent.

If they were to join the Pac-10 they would routinely have to play USC, Cal, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, and then I want to see them schedule their out of conference games against teams like Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma and have ROUTINE success, not one-hit-wonder games where they win by 3 points or a last second touchdown. Blowout wins.

They're in the WAC. They shouldn't even be considered for Top 10.

[casmith07]

Also what happens to the Boise's of the world when they get good the BCS teams refuse to play them because they are afraid of winning so it is harder to play out of conference games as a Boise and they always have to go on the road for them.

The BCS is a joke and until they get a playoff like the rest of college sports including the rest of college football they will always suck

I can agree with this. Texas playing for the title last year was a joke.

[Cythim]

I am not impressed with Boise St beating a team that has lost at least three games in each of the last four seasons. I want to see them play Nebraska, Iowa, Florida or Oregon later in the schedule instead of these stupid preseason games that don't matter to these third tier schools.

[Doomsday101]

Great game!!! Not a fan of either team but fan of football and I found this game to be enjoyable and exciting. Congrads to Boise and a tip of the hat to VT.

[Kolemmitt]

It is their fault. They could actively petition to join a conference where they'll routinely play tough talent, like the Pac 10 or the Big XII.


They're in the WAC. They shouldn't even be considered for Top 10.

You obviously have not followed Boise State at all. They have been actively working to get into a better conference for the better part of the decade. They would have down backflips if the Pac-10 would have invited them. They would have done backflips if the Big XII had invited them. In the end, the Mountain West did invite them and it took them two seconds to accept. The Pac-10 didn't think that Boise academics were a fit (which is true) and the Big-12 doesn't think that the Boise Valley would bring enough television sets to bring value to their TV deal.

We, as Cowboys fans, don't like it when people say ignorant things about our Cowboys, so how about you don't say ignorant things about other teams.

I understand the strength of schedule thing and if a SEC team has one loss and the Big-12 team has one loss I will be the first guy to say that those two teams deserve the NC game over an undefeated Boise, but this ignorant hate on Boise is not needed.

[casmith07]

Quote the whole post, not just the pieces that make it work for you.

[Doomsday101]

You obviously have not followed Boise State at all. They have been actively working to get into a better conference for the better part of the decade. They would have down backflips if the Pac-10 would have invited them. They would have done backflips if the Big XII had invited them. In the end, the Mountain West did invite them and it took them two seconds to accept. The Pac-10 didn't think that Boise academics were a fit (which is true) and the Big-12 doesn't think that the Boise Valley would bring enough television sets to bring value to their TV deal.

We, as Cowboys fans, don't like it when people say ignorant things about our Cowboys, so how about you don't say ignorant things about other teams.

I understand the strength of schedule thing and if a SEC team has one loss and the Big-12 team has one loss I will be the first guy to say that those two teams deserve the NC game over an undefeated Boise, but this ignorant hate on Boise is not needed.

I agree. I also agree with the sports radio talk this morning when they said Boise and TCU are prime examples of why we need a playoff system in college football. All the talk about a weak conference would be a moot point if a playoff system was put in place.

[Hoofbite]

It is their fault. They could actively petition to join a conference where they'll routinely play tough talent, like the Pac 10 or the Big XII.

Oregon State being ranked #24 is a far cry from playing top tier talent.

If they were to join the Pac-10 they would routinely have to play USC, Cal, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, and then I want to see them schedule their out of conference games against teams like Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma and have ROUTINE success, not one-hit-wonder games where they win by 3 points or a last second touchdown. Blowout wins.

They're in the WAC. They shouldn't even be considered for Top 10.

They have tried.

The had an open date for next season and issued an open challenge to any team in the country. Any time, any place and as far as I remember, nobody accepted it. Nobody wants to play them and if it is an out-of-conference game, nobody can be forced to play them.

Also, I think I remember Nebraska puffing their chest and saying Boise State doesn't play anyone. Boise came back and said that they would be willing to go to Nebraska and play them and Nebraska promptly shut up.

Boise has practically begged teams to play them and teams don't want to.

You can only play who is on your schedule and if nobody has the sack to hop on the schedule, what are you supposed to do?

Doesn't really matter though. Lets just pretend that Boise were to get a National Championship spot, they still have to play one of the BCS darlings and Boise isn't good enough to win, right?

It's funny that there be can so much confidence in a BCS school but nobody wants to see any little school even get the shot. TCU and Boise should have played big schools last year but they were screwed. The BCS is a joke. They huff and puff about how great all their automatic bid conferences are and yet they are scared ****less of letting a smaller school getting a shot.

[Chocolate Lab]

I think both those teams last night were overranked. I like Boise's story like most people, but there's no way that was the third best football team in the country.

[Doomsday101]

I think both those teams last night were overranked. I like Boise's story like most people, but there's no way that was the third best football team in the country.

Who knows right now who the best is.

[CATCH17]

I think both those teams last night were overranked. I like Boise's story like most people, but there's no way that was the third best football team in the country.

Boise State can beat anyone in a head to head matchup.

They may not be as physically superior as some teams but they are mentally superior than a lot of teams.

They play GREAT team football and are extremely well coached.



If College football had a playoff they probably wouldn't win it. Maybe they would.... But for 1 game they can beat anybody.


They are 1 of the best teams to watch imo because of how fundamentally sound they are.

[Kolemmitt]

It is their fault. They could actively petition to join a conference where they'll routinely play tough talent, like the Pac 10 or the Big XII.

Oregon State being ranked #24 is a far cry from playing top tier talent.

If they were to join the Pac-10 they would routinely have to play USC, Cal, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, and then I want to see them schedule their out of conference games against teams like Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma and have ROUTINE success, not one-hit-wonder games where they win by 3 points or a last second touchdown. Blowout wins.

They're in the WAC. They shouldn't even be considered for Top 10.

There, I quoted the whole post.

You still were dead wrong on the first part.

As to your second part, read through a few of these articles, BSU is not working the system, the system has been working BSU and non-AQ teams like Utah, BYU, and TCU for years.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-boise110709

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2378228/the_big_ten_and_boise_state_a_perfect_pg2.html?cat =14

http://www.acuoptimist.com/2009/12/division-i-football-needs-a-playoff-system-to-determine-champions/

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4642585

[Chocolate Lab]

Boise State can beat anyone in a head to head matchup.

They may not be as physically superior as some teams but they are mentally superior than a lot of teams.

They play GREAT team football and are extremely well coached.



If College football had a playoff they probably wouldn't win it. Maybe they would.... But for 1 game they can beat anybody.


They are 1 of the best teams to watch imo because of how fundamentally sound they are.
I don't know, Catch... They missed a lot of tackles and got physically run over last night. And that's by a VT team that isn't that great.

[Doomsday101]

I don't know, Catch... They missed a lot of tackles and got physically run over last night. And that's by a VT team that isn't that great.

Physically ran over? VT QB had some nice runs other than that VT was not getting much off of Boise. Williams for VT had 21 carries for 44 yards on the night 2.1 avg is not exactly physically dominating.

[Kangaroo]

Boise would love to go to a Bigger Conference but lets be real the NCAA can say what ever it want's but this is all amount money and the have vs the have nots.

The Big Power conferences is all about money; be it tv deals;stadiums and Bowl $$$$

So large Alumni Base is required and TV market matters

It does not matter how good your program is if you do not meet those basic concepts that bring A large TV market by having a large Alumni base in a region that it does not already cover and has to make sense then you are not getting into a power conference.

[Muhast]

I am not impressed with Boise St beating a team that has lost at least three games in each of the last four seasons. I want to see them play Nebraska, Iowa, Florida or Oregon later in the schedule instead of these stupid preseason games that don't matter to these third tier schools.


They would have beaten the FLA team that showed up last Saturday by 20+.

Florida put up 25 yards of offense heading into the 4th quarter, against Mia (OH) who only won 1 game last year.

[Kangaroo]

Let's not forget that was basically a home game for Va Tech

[Doomsday101]

Let's not forget that was basically a home game for Va Tech

That was the 1st thing that impressed me was the size of the crowd that Boise had to contend with and yet they came out and hit VT right in the mouth. I give VT credit for keeping it together and not letting it get out of hand but Boise looked good and did not need trick plays to put points on the board.

[LatinMind]

You obviously have not followed Boise State at all. They have been actively working to get into a better conference for the better part of the decade. They would have down backflips if the Pac-10 would have invited them. They would have done backflips if the Big XII had invited them. In the end, the Mountain West did invite them and it took them two seconds to accept. The Pac-10 didn't think that Boise academics were a fit (which is true) and the Big-12 doesn't think that the Boise Valley would bring enough television sets to bring value to their TV deal.

We, as Cowboys fans, don't like it when people say ignorant things about our Cowboys, so how about you don't say ignorant things about other teams.

I understand the strength of schedule thing and if a SEC team has one loss and the Big-12 team has one loss I will be the first guy to say that those two teams deserve the NC game over an undefeated Boise, but this ignorant hate on Boise is not needed.
nicely put. teams like boise, utah, byu, fresno state have more wins against top 10 teams then 95% of the teams annually ranked in the top 25 just because of the league they play in.

[Doomsday101]

nicely put. teams like boise, utah, byu, fresno state have more wins against top 10 teams then 95% of the teams annually ranked in the top 25 just because of the league they play in.

True the deal is they do not have to face ranked opponents as often. When you have a schedule were your facing 3 or 4 ranked teams in a row knowing you have to be on your A game to get through it that is hard. When you face 1 or 2 ranked teams within a season months apart that is much easier to deal with. I take nothing away from Boise however I think Boise is the prime example of why we need a college playoff system in place so that all doubts are removed.

[Cythim]

They would have beaten the FLA team that showed up last Saturday by 20+.

Florida put up 25 yards of offense heading into the 4th quarter, against Mia (OH) who only won 1 game last year.

I have no doubt that BSU can beat any team that is in preseason mode while the Broncos are already in playoff mode. Put the game later in the season when both teams are firing on all cylinders and the outcome will be completely different.

[LatinMind]

True the deal is they do not have to face ranked opponents as often. When you have a schedule were your facing 3 or 4 ranked teams in a row knowing you have to be on your A game to get through it that is hard. When you face 1 or 2 ranked teams within a season months apart that is much easier to deal with. I take nothing away from Boise however I think Boise is the prime example of why we need a college playoff system in place so that all doubts are removed.

i dont buy into the first part of your statement. they still have to win the game. but i think there needs to be a playoff too. but its all about the money yet they wont let college players get a peice of that. hypocrits

[Doomsday101]

i dont buy into the first part of your statement. they still have to win the game. but i think there needs to be a playoff too. but its all about the money yet they wont let college players get a peice of that. hypocrits

Sure they have to win the games but it is not as if they are facing top ranked teams week in and week out that is hard to for a coach to keep that team playing top football. When all you have to face is 1 ranked team 2 at the most and the rest of your games are pushover that makes it much easier. A playoff system would give Boise what they need a legit chance at a National Title because to get it you will have to beat top ranked teams consecutively to get it. Right now Boise had all off season to get ready for 1 game knowing that if they win it then they are BCS bound.

[LatinMind]

Sure they have to win the games but it is not as if they are facing top ranked teams week in and week out that is hard to for a coach to keep that team playing top football. When all you have to face is 1 ranked team 2 at the most and the rest of your games are pushover that makes it much easier. A playoff system would give Boise what they need a legit chance at a National Title because to get it you will have to beat top ranked teams consecutively to get it. Right now Boise had all off season to get ready for 1 game knowing that if they win it then they are BCS bound.

for teams like boise its harder cause if they dont win by 60 they fall in ranking

[Bizwah]

Sure they have to win the games but it is not as if they are facing top ranked teams week in and week out that is hard to for a coach to keep that team playing top football. When all you have to face is 1 ranked team 2 at the most and the rest of your games are pushover that makes it much easier. A playoff system would give Boise what they need a legit chance at a National Title because to get it you will have to beat top ranked teams consecutively to get it. Right now Boise had all off season to get ready for 1 game knowing that if they win it then they are BCS bound.

I think there's a lot of validity to this.

Last night was basically BSU's Super Bowl. Just like last year when they played Oregon. They really can let it hang out for that first game because they don't have to worry so much about any kind of challenge from their conference.

They're a fun team to watch, but simply pointing to one game is not good enough. I think a team with one loss from the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, is more impressive than a BSU team that goes undefeated and beats one or two teams (Oregon St. is next) from a power conference.

I love BSU...as I said, my cousin was a prof there. But they really present a ton of issues for the BCS. I don't think it's fair for them, the power conferences, or the fans of college football to NOT have a playoff.

[Bizwah]

for teams like boise its harder cause if they dont win by 60 they fall in ranking

I don't agree with this at all.

They only have to win and not have too many bad looking games.

Yes, style points are important.....but they've controlled the conference pretty easily the last few years, so this won't be anything new or difficult for them.

[rkell87]

I don't agree with this at all.

They only have to win and not have too many bad looking games.

Yes, style points are important.....but they've controlled the conference pretty easily the last few years, so this won't be anything new or difficult for them.
yeah but if they 'struggle' at all with a weaker team with their weaker schedule then they will get jumped in the standings.

like if #5 texas beats #7 OU and in that same week or any surrounding week boise or tcu struggle or dont look dominate then texas, or any other team in position to jump them, will.

[CATCH17]

Teams with week schedules play for the title every year.

Texas, OU, and Ohio State have made many appearances because of no competition.

[Cythim]

Boise St jumped Texas and Florida in the Coaches' Poll.

[Cythim]

Teams with week schedules play for the title every year.

Texas, OU, and Ohio State have made many appearances because of no competition.

If it is because of no competition is is because they are head and shoulders above the rest of the nation. Boise St would not go undefeated every year in the Big 10 or Big 12 like UT, OU or OSU have to do in order to make the NC game. They can play teams like Tulsa, Rice and Marhsall in non-conference because they are at the same level as most of Boise State's opponents.

[Muhast]

Boise St jumped Texas and Florida in the Coaches' Poll.

Fla and Tex both looked pretty average last week.

[rkell87]

Teams with week schedules play for the title every year.

Texas, OU, and Ohio State have made many appearances because of no competition.
oh come off it, you don't have to play ranked teams every week to have a strong schedule. Iowa, Penn st., osu, and until recently Michigan have been tough enough each year to to warrant cake out of conference opponents.

same for Texas, ou, TT, tamu, and depending on the year Nebraska or Colorado. same for VT, fla st., Clemson, GT, and MIA. all these guys usually have one or two teams in the top 10-15 and all of them regularly make an appearance in the top 25.

also the rest of the teams in those conferences are closer to the 50 range where as the guys in Boise st conference are closer to the 75-100 range for the most part.

[rkell87]

Boise St jumped Texas and Florida in the Coaches' Poll.
which is how it should be, both fla and texas didnt blow out easy guys and boise beat the #10 team

[Doomsday101]

for teams like boise its harder cause if they dont win by 60 they fall in ranking

Not true that is not part of the formula that is used in the BCS computer rankings.

[Doomsday101]

I think there's a lot of validity to this.

Last night was basically BSU's Super Bowl. Just like last year when they played Oregon. They really can let it hang out for that first game because they don't have to worry so much about any kind of challenge from their conference.

They're a fun team to watch, but simply pointing to one game is not good enough. I think a team with one loss from the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, is more impressive than a BSU team that goes undefeated and beats one or two teams (Oregon St. is next) from a power conference.

I love BSU...as I said, my cousin was a prof there. But they really present a ton of issues for the BCS. I don't think it's fair for them, the power conferences, or the fans of college football to NOT have a playoff.

I agree with you 100%. I think this is the reason that a playoff system is needed to give teams like Boise and TCU a fair shot at the National title.

I fully understand the sentiments for Boise after all they have little control over who they play and the teams they have played they have beaten including the 1 or 2 ranked teams they face within a season.

Problem is the big schools are facing 4 or 5 ranked teams within a season not counting their bowl game they face the pressure that Boise and TCU do not have to face.

I know a couple of years ago Texas had 4 games in a row with top 20 team 1st Oklahoma, Missouri, Oklahoma st and Texas Tech and in the end they lost the shot at the NC because of the 1 point loss to Tech.

[Doomsday101]

Fla and Tex both looked pretty average last week.

Both are going through a big change. Tebow has been the QB for 4 years and now is gone and for Texas Colt was there for 4 years and is he is gone. Add to that both are having to change their style of offense to try and compliment the talent of the new QB's they have in place.

[CATCH17]

If it is because of no competition is is because they are head and shoulders above the rest of the nation. Boise St would not go undefeated every year in the Big 10 or Big 12 like UT, OU or OSU have to do in order to make the NC game. They can play teams like Tulsa, Rice and Marhsall in non-conference because they are at the same level as most of Boise State's opponents.

The year Texas won it with Vince Young was not a tough schedule at all.

This Boise State team would have a shot @ running the table against that schedule.

[jimmy40]

Both are going through a big change. Tebow has been the QB for 4 years and now is gone and for Texas Colt was there for 4 years and is he is gone. Add to that both are having to change their style of offense to try and compliment the talent of the new QB's they have in place.Garrett Gilbert ran the spread in high school.

[Doomsday101]

Garrett Gilbert ran the spread in high school.

I understand that but evidently after going through the off season the Texas coaches do not think he can run the spread effectively enough to implement it exclusively as they did with Young and Colt. There has to be a point where fans have to trust those who are seeing these guys day in and day out. I think the Texas coaching staff has enough skins on the wall to trust their judgment.

[Doomsday101]

The year Texas won it with Vince Young was not a tough schedule at all.

This Boise State team would have a shot @ running the table against that schedule.

Texas played 4 ranked teams that season including a big show down with #4 Ohio State in week 2 of the season.

[CATCH17]

I understand that but evidently after going through the off season the Texas coaches do not think he can run the spread effectively enough to implement it exclusively as they did with Young and Colt. There has to be a point where fans have to trust those who are seeing these guys day in and day out. I think the Texas coaching staff has enough skins on the wall to trust their judgment.

I think some of it has to do with his Physical abilities too.

He is more of a Pro Style QB so it makes sense to run that kind of Offense.

Plus it allows you to play more of a Physical Style of football too.


Gilbert is so gifted that you can probably run whatever style of Offense you want though.





If I were Texas, with the way they can recruit, all you need is a team that can run through people.

Thats what USC and a lot of the SEC schools do.

[jimmy40]

I understand that but evidently after going through the off season the Texas coaches do not think he can run the spread effectively enough to implement it exclusively as they did with Young and Colt. There has to be a point where fans have to trust those who are seeing these guys day in and day out. I think the Texas coaching staff has enough skins on the wall to trust their judgment.I think Mack just wants to run the ball, which is fine by me.

[Doomsday101]

I think Mack just wants to run the ball, which is fine by me.

I think Mack wants to win and will do whatever they feel gives them the best chance to win. I think in the Rice game they played it closer to the vest than what we will see as the season progresses and Gilbert progresses.

[jimmy40]

. I think in the Rice game they played it closer to the vest than what we will see as the season progresses and Gilbert progresses.no doubt about that

[DallasCowpoke]

AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN -- Texas tailback Tré Newton, a sophomore from Southlake Carroll who led the team in rushing last season, moved back into the starting lineup Monday after grinding out a team-high 61 yards and three touchdowns in Saturday's opener against Rice.

But coach Mack Brown made it clear that Newton's elevation came, at least in part, because Cody Johnson -- the 250-pounder who started against Rice -- sprained an ankle on his second carry against the Owls and did not tell coaches about the injury until after the game.

By then, Brown said the ankle was swollen to the point that Johnson is not expected to practice today but should be available for Saturday's game against Wyoming (6 p.m., Austin).

Asked if Newton, who rushed for 552 yards last season, would have supplanted Johnson on Monday's depth chart without the injury, Brown said: "It's hard to tell. I thought Tré looked good... and Cody only had two healthy plays. He wasn't cutting as well after [the injury]. When we asked him after the game why he didn't tell us, he said, 'I've worked too hard to be the starter. I don't want to lose it.'"

Johnson, the goal-line back last season, earned the starting role last week because of what he showed in fall camp. Those skills were not evident after Johnson's 18-yard run on his second carry, Brown said.

Brown and offensive coordinator Greg Davis said they reminded Johnson about the fine line that exists between playing with pain and trying to play through an injury that saps production and hurts the team.

Newton said he is happy to be back atop the depth chart but understands that coaches plan to rotate multiple players at the position. Texas started four different tailbacks in 14 games last season.

Texas offensive coordinator Greg Davis said fans and media members "should not draw too many conclusions" from the play calls made against Rice, which included 46 runs and 24 passes. Davis said he envisions more of a 50-50 mix as the season unfolds, with Texas spending less time under center -- and more plays from shotgun formation -- than the Longhorns showed in the opener.

[Doomsday101]

AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN -- Texas tailback Tré Newton, a sophomore from Southlake Carroll who led the team in rushing last season, moved back into the starting lineup Monday after grinding out a team-high 61 yards and three touchdowns in Saturday's opener against Rice.

But coach Mack Brown made it clear that Newton's elevation came, at least in part, because Cody Johnson -- the 250-pounder who started against Rice -- sprained an ankle on his second carry against the Owls and did not tell coaches about the injury until after the game.

By then, Brown said the ankle was swollen to the point that Johnson is not expected to practice today but should be available for Saturday's game against Wyoming (6 p.m., Austin).

Asked if Newton, who rushed for 552 yards last season, would have supplanted Johnson on Monday's depth chart without the injury, Brown said: "It's hard to tell. I thought Tré looked good... and Cody only had two healthy plays. He wasn't cutting as well after [the injury]. When we asked him after the game why he didn't tell us, he said, 'I've worked too hard to be the starter. I don't want to lose it.'"

Johnson, the goal-line back last season, earned the starting role last week because of what he showed in fall camp. Those skills were not evident after Johnson's 18-yard run on his second carry, Brown said.

Brown and offensive coordinator Greg Davis said they reminded Johnson about the fine line that exists between playing with pain and trying to play through an injury that saps production and hurts the team.

Newton said he is happy to be back atop the depth chart but understands that coaches plan to rotate multiple players at the position. Texas started four different tailbacks in 14 games last season.

Texas offensive coordinator Greg Davis said fans and media members "should not draw too many conclusions" from the play calls made against Rice, which included 46 runs and 24 passes. Davis said he envisions more of a 50-50 mix as the season unfolds, with Texas spending less time under center -- and more plays from shotgun formation -- than the Longhorns showed in the opener.

I was very happy with the play of Newton, he looked very quick hitting the holes and would not be surprised if he holds on to the starting role.

[jimmy40]

Davis said he envisions more of a 50-50 mix as the season unfolds, with Texas spending less time under center -- and more plays from shotgun formation -- than the Longhorns showed in the opener.considering everyone was recruited for the spread they have no choice. no way they can just turn into a running team unless they want to lose 3-4 games.

[Doomsday101]

considering everyone was recruited for the spread they have no choice. no way they can just turn into a running team unless they want to lose 3-4 games.

Texas recruited the top players in Texas it had nothing to do with the spread. They may throw the ball more than they did vs Rice which I would expect but I don't think we will see a lot of the QB faking the handoff and running like we saw with Young and Colt.

[Cythim]

The year Texas won it with Vince Young was not a tough schedule at all.

This Boise State team would have a shot @ running the table against that schedule.

This Boise St team would've lost to OSU in Ohio and to Texas Tech. They wouldose to those Horns and Trojans from 2005 as well.

[Jack-Reacher]

I always get a laugh when people say that Boise needs to just get in a better conference. They have tried to get in the PAC-10 for years, and are routinely denied because this market is too small. They cannot recruit top 100 players yet they are competitive every year. For hell's sake, VT's Band had more members than Boise had attending that game.

Every time they beat a "ranked" opponent the excuses come flying out as to why they lost to BSU and why BSU really sucks. The preseason excuse is one of my favorites, that loss still goes into the "L" column whether the other team was up for it or not. I would say a team that overlooks BSU is a poorly coached team.

Would you want BSU in the Big 12, or PAC 10, or Big 10 or SEC or any other supposed "power" conference? Do you really want your team coming into Boise and playing? Ask Oregon how that worked out for them. Ask Nebraska why they won't sign a 1-1 deal to play BSU? You cannot continue to blame the conference for their not getting a shot at the title. They play who lines up against them, regardless of who it is. The VT game was not their Super Bowl, it was a hyped game for certain, but the OSU game will be far more hyped than the VT game was. The Oregon/Idaho rivalry is far more prevalent than the VT game. Their #10 ranking was the biggest reason for the hype.

[Doomsday101]

I always get a laugh when people say that Boise needs to just get in a better conference. They have tried to get in the PAC-10 for years, and are routinely denied because this market is too small. They cannot recruit top 100 players yet they are competitive every year. For hell's sake, VT's Band had more members than Boise had attending that game.

Every time they beat a "ranked" opponent the excuses come flying out as to why they lost to BSU and why BSU really sucks. The preseason excuse is one of my favorites, that loss still goes into the "L" column whether the other team was up for it or not. I would say a team that overlooks BSU is a poorly coached team.

Would you want BSU in the Big 12, or PAC 10, or Big 10 or SEC or any other supposed "power" conference? Do you really want your team coming into Boise and playing? Ask Oregon how that worked out for them. Ask Nebraska why they won't sign a 1-1 deal to play BSU? You cannot continue to blame the conference for their not getting a shot at the title. They play who lines up against them, regardless of who it is. The VT game was not their Super Bowl, it was a hyped game for certain, but the OSU game will be far more hyped than the VT game was. The Oregon/Idaho rivalry is far more prevalent than the VT game. Their #10 ranking was the biggest reason for the hype.

Beating a top 10 team is why the voters gave Boise more #1 vote. Oregon St started the year as a top 25 but the loss to TCU will likely knock them out of the top 25.
I don't blame Boise but I do see the other end of this as others are forced to play several top 25 teams while Boise gets 1 maybe 2?

TCU gets pretty much the same deal as Boise and the only way that is going to change is playoff system and I think we will see some conferences disbanded like the Big 12 and teams will play in larger super conferences.

[Jack-Reacher]

Beating a top 10 team is why the voters gave Boise more #1 vote. Oregon St started the year as a top 25 but the loss to TCU will likely knock them out of the top 25.
I don't blame Boise but I do see the other end of this as others are forced to play several top 25 teams while Boise gets 1 maybe 2?

TCU gets pretty much the same deal as Boise and the only way that is going to change is playoff system and I think we will see some conferences disbanded like the Big 12 and teams will play in larger super conferences.

I agree completely, it is crappy deal regardless of who the team is. We had the same debate back in the 80's When BYU went undefeated. The NCAA should take over the scheduling at the very least and let these teams prove themselves. A playoff system would be ideal but you would have the same debates as to seeding. A BSU or TCU will have to play tougher competition in the playoffs, because they will be seeded low due to their scheduling. Hopefully this because somewhat of a non issue next year when BSU moves into the MWC.

[Doomsday101]

I agree completely, it is crappy deal regardless of who the team is. We had the same debate back in the 80's When BYU went undefeated. The NCAA should take over the scheduling at the very least and let these teams prove themselves. A playoff system would be ideal but you would have the same debates as to seeding. A BSU or TCU will have to play tougher competition in the playoffs, because they will be seeded low due to their scheduling. Hopefully this because somewhat of a non issue next year when BSU moves into the MWC.

True, the NCAA could take over the 3 non conference games you will still have your own conference you will have to play but at least the 3 non conference games could be vs better teams.

As for the playoffs you may be right that a TCU or a BSU would have the tougher road given their seeding however they did well enough last season to be in the BCS bowl so chances are their seeding would still be pretty decent.

[DallasCowpoke]

I think we will see some conferences disbanded like the Big 12 and teams will play in larger super conferences.

When did the Big XII "disband"?

[Doomsday101]

When did the Big XII "disband"?

They have not as of yet but I can see a time come where some of the conferences and the Big XII minus 2 being 1 of them. I think we will one day we will see Teams become part of lager super conferences.

Currently we have 12 Division 1-A conferences I could see that paired down to 5 to 6 super conferences in the future

[DallasCowpoke]

They have not as of yet but I can see a time come where some of the conferences and the Big XII minus 2 being 1 of them. I think we will one day we will see Teams become part of lager super conferences.

Currently we have 12 Division 1-A conferences I could see that paired down to 5 to 6 super conferences in the future

I think the B12 will start working seriously towards bringing in 2 more teams here fairly quickly. TCU, Houston or even SMU would be tops on my guess-list.

[Doomsday101]

I think the B12 will start working seriously towards bringing in 2 more teams here fairly quickly. TCU, Houston or even SMU would be tops on my guess-list.

It is not about the big 12 per say I think in the end there will be fewer conferences that make up the division 1-A schools. There has been talk of putting super conferences in place and I think eventually that will happen.

[DallasCowpoke]

It is not about the big 12 per say I think in the end there will be fewer conferences that make up the division 1-A schools. There has been talk of putting super conferences in place and I think eventually that will happen.

I think that's a long way away though. I could easily see conferences adding teams, even as back-room discussions about super conferences are taking place and imminent.

[joseephuss]

I think that's a long way away though. I could easily see confrnces adding teams, even as back-room discussions about super conferences are taking place and imminent.

Five years is not a long time in the big scheme of things, which is when the next big changes will likely occur.

[DallasCowpoke]

Five years is not a long time in the big scheme of things, which is when the next big changes will likely occur.

Could be.

[Doomsday101]

I think that's a long way away though. I could easily see confrnces adding teams, even as back-room discussions about super conferences are taking place and imminent.

Not sure how far away that really is. There are other school looking to make moves and I think the day of the super conference may be right around the corner. I don't say this as a supporter of it or against it I just think it is something that will happen and sooner than you may think

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/440203-college-football-realignment-the-super-conference-blueprint

[DallasCowpoke]

I don't say this as a supporter of it or against it I just think it is something that will happen and sooner than you may think

You're dead to me!


:p:

[DFWJC]

It is their fault. They could actively petition to join a conference where they'll routinely play tough talent, like the Pac 10 or the Big XII.

Oregon State being ranked #24 is a far cry from playing top tier talent.

If they were to join the Pac-10 they would routinely have to play USC, Cal, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, and then I want to see them schedule their out of conference games against teams like Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma and have ROUTINE success, not one-hit-wonder games where they win by 3 points or a last second touchdown. Blowout wins.

They're in the WAC. They shouldn't even be considered for Top 10.
You make it sound like BSU does not want to be in the Pac-10. That is their DREAM to be in a BCS conference. Just because schools want in, does not mean they get in.
Every CUSA, WAC, and MWC team would love to be in a so-called BCS conference.

[rkell87]

The year Texas won it with Vince Young was not a tough schedule at all.

This Boise State team would have a shot @ running the table against that schedule.
@#2 Ohio state
#24 Colorado
#10 Texas tech
OU who had whipped us the previous 2 years
rankings go out the window in rivalry's like UT vs. A&M
and then Colorado again


me thinks your talking out of your butt

[CATCH17]

This Boise St team would've lost to OSU in Ohio and to Texas Tech. They wouldose to those Horns and Trojans from 2005 as well.

But you can't prove that.

At least give Boise state a chance to prove they can't play with the "big boys".


Everytime you put them on the same field with a good team they play well.


Plaaaayoooofff.

[romo2to]

But you can't prove that.

At least give Boise state a chance to prove they can't play with the "big boys".


Everytime you put them on the same field with a good team they play well.

They normally win when they play the "big boys."

[Cythim]

But you can't prove that.

At least give Boise state a chance to prove they can't play with the "big boys".


I know, but you starting making statements you cannot prove ("Boise St would cruise through that schedule" (I am paraphrasing here)) so I continued on. The only way to prove Boise St can beat any of these teams is to play them, and the only chance they would be able to get is in a playoff.

Everytime you put them on the same field with a good team they play well.

Everytime they are put on the same field with a good team the games means much more to Boise St than it does to their opponent. The only win they have so far that has impressed me is the Fiesta Bowl against OU, but everyone knows Stoops hates to win bowl games so even that wasn't very impressive.

[Jack-Reacher]

Everytime they are put on the same field with a good team the games means much more to Boise St than it does to their opponent. The only win they have so far that has impressed me is the Fiesta Bowl against OU, but everyone knows Stoops hates to win bowl games so even that wasn't very impressive.

LOL riiiggghhhhttt Stoops throws those games because he doesn't like Bowl games. I wonder how you typed that with a straight face. The TCU game wasn't impressive either huh? Pesky 3rd ranked teams. Of course that game meant nothing to them either I suppose. Both teams get up for those games, VT was up for it's game, saying that it doesn't mean as much to other team is ludicrous. How about swallowing your pride and just admitting that BSU has an excellent program and can compete with anyone. It's not that hard to admit. You do not have to be in the Pac-10, Big12 or SEC to have a good football program.

[2much2soon]

You know what really scares BCS conference front-running fans?

They know BSU has won 2 Fiesta Bowls against highly ranked teams, twice abused a high-ranked, highly-regarded Oregon team, and won nearly every game on their schedule over the past 4 years.

With WAC recruits!

I think Ryan Clady may have been the only 3-star recruit they have ever had.

BCS conference front-running fans are in shock over what BSU might do if they were in a BCS conference and recruiting 4 and 5 star recruits.

BSU is beating everyone on their schedule with Pac 10 castoffs from Cali and small town kids from the Pacific NW.

[Cythim]

LOL riiiggghhhhttt Stoops throws those games because he doesn't like Bowl games. I wonder how you typed that with a straight face.

I didn't type it was a straight face, it was a joke referencing Stoop's poor performance in BCS games (his record is 2-5). I'll try to speak more slowly for you.

The TCU game wasn't impressive either huh?

While I wouldn't call TCU's win impressive, I think they are a better team that has to play a tougher schedule than Boise St each year. BYU, Utah and Air Force are much better teams than Nevada or Fresno St. When TCU goes undefeated it is a big deal, but beating a second rate team from a major conference is not impressive.


Pesky 3rd ranked teams. Of course that game meant nothing to them either I suppose. Both teams get up for those games, VT was up for it's game, saying that it doesn't mean as much to other team is ludicrous.

It isn't ludicrous. Virginia Tech isn't playing for a national title but they are playing for an ACC championship and a chance to make a BCS game. When they are starting the season they are more worried about Miami, Georgia Tech and the ACC title game than they are about beating Boise St. This matchup was all about money for VT, they were paid $2.35 million (BSU earned $1.25 million) for playing this game. Taking that loss is worth more than beating a D-II school.

How about swallowing your pride and just admitting that BSU has an excellent program and can compete with anyone. It's not that hard to admit. You do not have to be in the Pac-10, Big12 or SEC to have a good football program.

Pride has absolutely nothing to do with it. I am all for fair play and small schools but I am also for rewarding the teams that deserve it. Right now only two teams get the chance to compete for the national championship and unfortunately Boise St does not have the capability to do enough to earn one of those two spots over a one loss team from the Big 12, Big 10 or SEC unless they start scheduling and beating true contenders in non-conference play.

[Jack-Reacher]

I didn't type it was a straight face, it was a joke referencing Stoop's poor performance in BCS games (his record is 2-5). I'll try to speak more slowly for you.

Oh your right your reference was crystal clear... since you said that win would have been impressive, but OU didn't get up for the game.. ok my bad.. :cool:



While I wouldn't call TCU's win impressive, I think they are a better team that has to play a tougher schedule than Boise St each year. BYU, Utah and Air Force are much better teams than Nevada or Fresno St. When TCU goes undefeated it is a big deal, but beating a second rate team from a major conference is not impressive.

Yet somehow BSU beat the superior TCU team. No argument about the weak teams in the WAC, however BSU consistently beats teams from larger conferences.




It isn't ludicrous. Virginia Tech isn't playing for a national title but they are playing for an ACC championship and a chance to make a BCS game. When they are starting the season they are more worried about Miami, Georgia Tech and the ACC title game than they are about beating Boise St. This matchup was all about money for VT, they were paid $2.35 million (BSU earned $1.25 million) for playing this game. Taking that loss is worth more than beating a D-II school.

So Boise took less money to play a game in a larger conference even though they were the higher ranked team? I wonder if this could speak to the problem BSU has in getting teams to schedule them? Your right though, I am sure that VT wanted to start out the year with a loss, that will sure help them seal up that ACC Championship.



Pride has absolutely nothing to do with it. I am all for fair play and small schools but I am also for rewarding the teams that deserve it. Right now only two teams get the chance to compete for the national championship and unfortunately Boise St does not have the capability to do enough to earn one of those two spots over a one loss team from the Big 12, Big 10 or SEC unless they start scheduling and beating true contenders in non-conference play.

Their scheduling issue does not rest solely on the shoulders of BSU. Teams do not want to schedule them. Do you think OU would schedule them as their "tuneup" game? So by your logic, then next year when BSU moves into the MWC they would have a better argument for contending for a national championship?

I understand the strength of schedule argument, I do not shy away from it, without a doubt the WAC is a joke of a conference that hurts them every year. What kills me is that people act like BSU hides out in this conference so that they do not have to play the larger teams. Why is Nebraska playing Idaho instead of BSU? Oh that's right because they wouldn't sign a 1-1 deal with BSU whereas Idaho was happy doing a 1-2 deal. This all circles back to where the NCAA needs to schedule these non conference games so that they are meaningful. What benefit does a large school get from playing a far inferior team? It's a lopsided system that favors a handful of conferences.