Dan Hampton Removes One Foot From His Mouth

[Hostile]

Dan Hampton apologizes for Katrina remark

9/7/2010 6:41:40 AM

According to James Varney of the New Orleans Times-Picayune (http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/09/nfl_hall_of_famer_dan_hampton.html), former Chicago Bears defensive end Dan Hampton offered an unqualified apology Monday evening to New Orleans and Gulf Coast residents stung by his remark that the Minnesota Vikings, "need to hit that town like Katrina," when they play the New Orleans Saints in the Superdome Thursday night.

"I regret it immensely and I am sorry," Hampton said. "It was a horrible choice of words and a stupid comment."

"Obviously it was a throwaway line and I meant no ill will or intent," he said. "It was just horribly stupid."

"Some of my best memories are of New Orleans and I would never, it just...," Hampton said before repeating he apologized unreservedly. "It was just stupid, a stupid thing to say. I regret it and I am sorry."

[fiveandcounting]

Dan Hampton apologizes for Katrina remark

9/7/2010 6:41:40 AM

According to James Varney of the New Orleans Times-Picayune (http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/09/nfl_hall_of_famer_dan_hampton.html), former Chicago Bears defensive end Dan Hampton offered an unqualified apology Monday evening to New Orleans and Gulf Coast residents stung by his remark that the Minnesota Vikings, "need to hit that town like Katrina," when they play the New Orleans Saints in the Superdome Thursday night.

"I regret it immensely and I am sorry," Hampton said. "It was a horrible choice of words and a stupid comment."

"Obviously it was a throwaway line and I meant no ill will or intent," he said. "It was just horribly stupid."

"Some of my best memories are of New Orleans and I would never, it just...," Hampton said before repeating he apologized unreservedly. "It was just stupid, a stupid thing to say. I regret it and I am sorry."

I kind of understand the whole timing thing. A certain amount of decades have to pass before something is ok, I just wonder what that is? I mean if pro football began using the term blitz in the 40's people would have thought it terribly insenstive right?

[BAZ]

I kind of understand the whole timing thing. A certain amount of decades have to pass before something is ok, I just wonder what that is? I mean if pro football began using the term blitz in the 40's people would have thought it terribly insenstive right?

The blitz was in Britland, I'm sure Pearl harbour would be closer to the bone.

At the time obviously.

[Hostile]

I kind of understand the whole timing thing. A certain amount of decades have to pass before something is ok, I just wonder what that is? I mean if pro football began using the term blitz in the 40's people would have thought it terribly insenstive right?The term blitz didn't wait decades though. Don Ettinger is regarded as the inventor of the blitz and his playing career was the late 1940's and 1950.

I think however that war terminology has always been more accepted in football. Aerial assault, ground attack, bomb, etc.

[trickblue]

Yep... those Bears and their fans have always been a classy bunch...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/cowboyszone/hosted/bear_fans.jpg

[viman96]

What does "unqualified apology" mean?

[Idgit]

Hey, he manned-up and apologized. And it was a legit apology.

[ThreeSportStar80]

I don't get the apology... Anyone with a heart wouldn't have used those words.

[pancakeman]

The term blitz didn't wait decades though. Don Ettinger is regarded as the inventor of the blitz and his playing career was the late 1940's and 1950.

I think however that war terminology has always been more accepted in football. Aerial assault, ground attack, bomb, etc.

WW2 may be seen as more of a US victory than Katrina, too.

[Hostile]

WW2 may be seen as more of a US victory than Katrina, too.There is that.

[Sam I Am]

He needs to take the foot that he removed from his mouth and shove it up his ***. :cool:

[couchscout]

What does "unqualified apology" mean?


It means he didn't qualify the apology with something like "I'm really sorry, but in all fairness I was really drunk that night". Basically, he didn't make any excuses, he apologized profusely and repeatedly said how stupid it was for him to say it.

[rockj7]

It means he didn't qualify the apology with something like "I'm really sorry, but in all fairness I was really drunk that night". Basically, he didn't make any excuses, he apologized profusely and repeatedly said how stupid it was for him to say it.

Dan Hampton is not too smart that would be like someone on this board saying we should blow up the Giants o-line like the world trade that event was just to tragic to ever make a comment like that no matter how long ago its been.

[couchscout]

Dan Hampton is not too smart that would be like someone on this board saying we should blow up the Giants o-line like the world trade that event was just to tragic to ever make a comment like that no matter how long ago its been.


Rappers say things like "blow you up like Hiroshima" and such all the time. Its a pretty big double standard really. They get away with saying whatever they want. Maybe because it wasn't an American tragedy...I dunno. Though that definitely doesn't make it any less classy.

[Venger]

Jeez when did football players and fans turn into such insufferable sissies (I changed the word, grown ups can figure out the real word...) ???

Hit New Orleans like Katrina... good line. Sounds like something someone who played a pro sport would say.

Now you gently apply your feminine napkin and apologize for not being sensitive. What... the... this is football, not ladies golf. Heck, in ladies golf they probably talk worse smack than that. Michelle Wie tells Sorenstam "I gonna light you up like a Great White concert baby..."

This sport could use less estrogen.

[Joshmvii]

Jeez when did football players and fans turn into such insufferable sissies (I changed the word, grown ups can figure out the real word...) ???

Hit New Orleans like Katrina... good line. Sounds like something someone who played a pro sport would say.

Now you gently apply your feminine napkin and apologize for not being sensitive. What... the... this is football, not ladies golf. Heck, in ladies golf they probably talk worse smack than that. Michelle Wie tells Sorenstam "I gonna light you up like a Great White concert baby..."

This sport could use less estrogen.

So because it's football making offensive remarks is okay? So if your mother was raped and murdered but you played for the Cowboys, you'd be cool with a commentator saying "Player X needs to run up in Venger and do his business like that rapist did to his mother?"

Sure you would.

[NinePointOh]

Rappers say things like "blow you up like Hiroshima" and such all the time. Its a pretty big double standard really. They get away with saying whatever they want. Maybe because it wasn't an American tragedy...I dunno. Though that definitely doesn't make it any less classy.

It's not a double standard, they just have entirely different audiences. Consumers who listen to rap music are more likely to enjoy things that push the envelope and offend delicate sensibilities than consumers who watch sports analysis on TV.

[couchscout]

It's not a double standard, they just have entirely different audiences. Consumers who listen to rap music are more likely to enjoy things that push the envelope and offend delicate sensibilities than consumers who watch sports analysis on TV.


Well played sir, well played :D

[casmith07]

You can tell when someone's apology is sincere by the language they choose.

Obviously wasn't a carefully crafted, "canned" apology that you normally see in these kinds of circumstances - which means that it was likely genuine.

[LandryFan]

Hey, he manned-up and apologized. And it was a legit apology.
I saw no apology for his stupid "brokeback" reference to the Cowboys. That guy is just an idiot.

[31smackdown]

I guess I'm just insensitive but I wasn't offended.. Did anyone actually think that he was wishing bad things on the city and trying to inflict emotional pain on people? .. It's an analogy...

If a fight commentator in reference to a smaller guy taking down a bigger guy said " he crumbled like the twin towers" is that supposed to upset me because he referenced a historical disaster which caused widespread and personal grief?

I could see if the small guy was muslim and the large guy was from NY.. it would illicit a "that's kind of messed up" response.. but why do people get so angry and offended? ... because it's deemed as poor taste? ..because they are referencing a negative and sad event? .. these things still happened .. they should be able to be referenced.. it's different than saying something like "I wish another Katrina on the city" .. he's not actually implying ill-will towards people.. he saying Minnesota has to go down there and "destroy" them "on the field" . But I guess he should have just said that because that would be more acceptable to just say destroy the other team and leave the city out of it.. as if he actually meant they should go down and ransack the city.

Sometimes I think people just like to act offended and slighted and make things personal for no reason other than to make themselves feel more important and righteous.

[LandryFan]

I guess I'm just insensitive but I wasn't offended.. Did anyone actually think that he was wishing bad things on the city and trying to inflict emotional pain on people? .. It's an analogy...

If a fight commentator in reference to a smaller guy taking down a bigger guy said " he crumbled like the twin towers" is that supposed to upset me because he referenced a historical disaster which caused widespread and personal grief?

I could see if the small guy was muslim and the large guy was from NY.. it would illicit a "that's kind of messed up" response.. but why do people get so angry and offended? ... because it's deemed as poor taste? ..because they are referencing a negative and sad event? .. these things still happened .. they should be able to be referenced.. it's different than saying something like "I wish another Katrina on the city" .. he's not actually implying ill-will towards people.. he saying Minnesota has to go down there and "destroy" them "on the field" . But I guess he should have just said that because that would be more acceptable to just say destroy the other team and leave the city out of it.. as if he actually meant they should go down and ransack the city.

Sometimes I think people just like to act offended and slighted and make things personal for no reason other than to make themselves feel more important and righteous.
Personally, I wasn't offended, either. It's just that someone in his position is not entitled to make such stupid statements (saying what he said over national airwaves was just plain stupid). Many won't be offended, but many will.

[jay cee]

He needs to take the foot that he removed from his mouth and shove it up his ***. :cool:

:bow: good one. that really made me laugh.

[LatinMind]

It's not a double standard, they just have entirely different audiences. Consumers who listen to rap music are more likely to enjoy things that push the envelope and offend delicate sensibilities than consumers who watch sports analysis on TV.

what? while it was out of line this makes no sense. guys talking about a sport that is loved for the violent hits suddenly is gettig fans who are worried about bein politically correct?

:bang2:

[Bob Sacamano]

Even I wouldn't sink that low.

[Nightshade]

He was trying to be enthusiastic and said something stupid. Many people lost their loved ones, their businesses, their homes and livelihoods. You just can't throw that reference around lightly. He realized he made a mistake, He apologized. The apology had to be made. It was very obviously genuine and heartfelt.

Nuff said. Moving on.

[tyke1doe]

Rappers say things like "blow you up like Hiroshima" and such all the time. Its a pretty big double standard really. They get away with saying whatever they want. Maybe because it wasn't an American tragedy...I dunno. Though that definitely doesn't make it any less classy.

Because that's the genre. Rap, particularly gansta rap, appeals to a certain segment of society, which isn't really considered mainstream.

Newscasters/sportscasters are supposed to appeal to a broader cross-section of the American population. That's why what they say is judged more harshly - and rightly so.

[tyke1doe]

It's not a double standard, they just have entirely different audiences. Consumers who listen to rap music are more likely to enjoy things that push the envelope and offend delicate sensibilities than consumers who watch sports analysis on TV.

You said that better than I did. :)

[ScipioCowboy]

Because that's the genre. Rap, particularly gansta rap, appeals to a certain segment of society, which isn't really considered mainstream.

Newscasters/sportscasters are supposed to appeal to a broader cross-section of the American population. That's why what they say is judged more harshly - and rightly so.

And, ultimately, acceptance is determined by the free market. People buy gangsta rap albums because their lyrics are edgy and often offensive.

[tyke1doe]

what? while it was out of line this makes no sense. guys talking about a sport that is loved for the violent hits suddenly is gettig fans who are worried about bein politically correct?

:bang2:

All violence is not equal.

Since football is a violent sport should sportscasters say, "The Cowboys raped the Skins like Big Ben Roethlisberger savaged a girl of low self-esteem in a bar bathroom?"

Of course not.

It's silly to think otherwise.

[GimmeTheBall!]

I think it is too much to expect that a person who has lived most of his life playing athletics to have a diplomatic, think-before-you-speak way about him.
Just the other day I heard something mention the disgusting term "circling the wagons." And Vegas is the gambling mecca of the U.S. Equally disgusting.
But I didn't raise a stink as to the circling the wagons remark. Why? The term has become ingrained in our language and doesn't necessarily mean that the speaker was overtly making the statement that all American Indians are marauders and that all victims (whites) have wagons which to circle against the horrid attackers.

Hitting someone or something like Katrina, is, on the surface, a remark about a powerful force, without delving into its aftermath and ensuing suffering.

A big to do about nothing from a guy who, though an unthinking type, is clearly no mental giant and meant only to convey the image of a force hitting an object.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

What does "unqualified apology" mean?

means he didn't say, I am sorry if anyone was offended.

[tyke1doe]

I think it is too much to expect that a person who has lived most of his life playing athletics to have a diplomatic, think-before-you-speak way about him.
Just the other day I heard something mention the disgusting term "circling the wagons." And Vegas is the gambling mecca of the U.S. Equally disgusting.
But I didn't raise a stink as to the circling the wagons remark. Why? The term has become ingrained in our language and doesn't necessarily mean that the speaker was overtly making the statement that all American Indians are marauders and that all victims (whites) have wagons which to circle against the horrid attackers.

Hitting someone or something like Katrina, is, on the surface, a remark about a powerful force, without delving into its aftermath and ensuing suffering.

A big to do about nothing from a guy who, though an unthinking type, is clearly no mental giant and meant only to convey the image of a force hitting an object.

Katrina's still too fresh in the memory.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

All violence is not equal.

Since football is a violent sport should sportscasters say, "The Cowboys raped the Skins like Big Ben Roethlisberger savaged a girl of low self-esteem in a bar bathroom?"

Of course not.

It's silly to think otherwise.

true, you can't say we whipped those boys like Kunta Kinte got whipped in Roots

[AMERICAS_FAN]

"I regret it immensely and I am sorry," Hampton said. "It was a horrible choice of words and a stupid comment."

Oh Mr. Dan Hampton, don't you worry one bit about it. Just remeber, there are no such things as "stupid comments" in this world, just stupid people making comments. Oh, and thanks for keeping the stereotype of football playes being dumb oafy ogers alive; after all the NFL has an image to uphold. You're makling Canton proud.

[Ashwynn]

Dan Hampton apologizes for Katrina remark

9/7/2010 6:41:40 AM

According to James Varney of the New Orleans Times-Picayune (http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/09/nfl_hall_of_famer_dan_hampton.html), former Chicago Bears defensive end Dan Hampton offered an unqualified apology Monday evening to New Orleans and Gulf Coast residents stung by his remark that the Minnesota Vikings, "need to hit that town like Katrina," when they play the New Orleans Saints in the Superdome Thursday night.

"I regret it immensely and I am sorry," Hampton said. "It was a horrible choice of words and a stupid comment."

"Obviously it was a throwaway line and I meant no ill will or intent," he said. "It was just horribly stupid."

"Some of my best memories are of New Orleans and I would never, it just...," Hampton said before repeating he apologized unreservedly. "It was just stupid, a stupid thing to say. I regret it and I am sorry."

People need to grow some think skin, man. This is nothing to apologize for, just super sensitive people who get offended anytime someone opens their mouth.

[DallasEast]

The whole thing has basically less to do with 'stupidity' or 'political correctness', and much more to do with insensitivity--of which the definition means 'lacking feeling or tact'. Obviously, Dan Hampton could not have cared less how his words would have been perceived at the time. Furthermore, he has been a known vocal commodity for thirty years. It is well known that he often lacks tact (for lack of a better phrase/no pun intended).

These sort of things are easily quantifiable. We can use Hampton's phraseology as an example:

"The Minnesota Vikings need to hit that town like _________________."

If one can fill in the blank without connecting the meaning with something horrific, that someone may be capable of expressing a viewpoint which is both emotionally based and devoid of tactlessness. Let's see...

"The Minnesota Vikings need to hit that town like a mack truck."

"The Minnesota Vikings need to hit that town like a Ronnie Lott."

"The Minnesota Vikings need to hit that town like a sledgehammer on a Aint."

"The Minnesota Vikings need to hit that town like a ton of bricks."

Etc., etc. In other words, there are way TOO many examples not mentioned above which could have been used to express the exact same thing, but Hampton could not think of any.

Why?

He's lacking in the ability to properly express himself. It was not the first time and it is highly unlikely it will be the last time.

[GimmeTheBall!]

The Vikings need to hit the Saints like Wade hitting the buffet line

[AMERICAS_FAN]

The Vikings need to hit the Saints like Wade hitting the buffet line

You mean much less so, because Wade has lost quite a bit of weight since last season and looks pretty good now?

Or were you trying to be witty like Dan Hampton with that commnet? ;)

[NinePointOh]

what? while it was out of line this makes no sense. guys talking about a sport that is loved for the violent hits suddenly is gettig fans who are worried about bein politically correct?

:bang2:

Suddenly? No. They've always been fans.

Football is a very mainstream sport, and its consumer base includes families, children, and probably thousands or millions who have been displaced or otherwise affected by Hurricane Katrina. If you're in the business of selling a product (like sports analysis) to those consumers, you can't really afford to tell them why you think they shouldn't be offended by what you've said. Because by the time you finish, they're already watching a different channel.

Is it entirely incompatible for someone to enjoy watching a physical contact sport and still be put off by someone else making light of a disaster that killed thousands? I'm not so sure it is.

[LatinMind]

Suddenly? No. They've always been fans.

Football is a very mainstream sport, and its consumer base includes families, children, and probably thousands or millions who have been displaced or otherwise affected by Hurricane Katrina. If you're in the business of selling a product (like sports analysis) to those consumers, you can't really afford to tell them why you think they shouldn't be offended by what you've said. Because by the time you finish, they're already watching a different channel.

Is it entirely incompatible for someone to enjoy watching a physical contact sport and still be put off by someone else making light of a disaster that killed thousands? I'm not so sure it is.

i think more people get put off by rapists and drug users in the sport then by peoples poor choice of words. thats just me

[NinePointOh]

i think more people get put off by rapists and drug users in the sport then by peoples poor choice of words. thats just me

That's probably accurate, but has nothing at all to do with this thread.

[GimmeTheBall!]

You, as a fat boy, should know that once a fat boy always a fat boy. And the fondness for the buffet never lessens. Yeah, Wade has lost some poundage, that is not in dispute. But whoa, you are being extra sensitive, huh?

OK, the Vikings will hit the Saints like Wade Dancing the YMCA!

[ZeroClub]

Occupational hazzard.

Hampton plays the modern sports media game of phrasing comments in sensationalistic sound-bites.

He took a brief time out to utter a sincere apology.

And now he's back in the game .....

[Venger]

So because it's football making offensive remarks is okay?

These days, offense is taken more than given. Like this quote. The intent was not to offend, but those keen to whine and play the victim are always walking the perimeter waiting for a reason to light off the tripwire. Grow a pair. Or at least get a heavier panty shield.

So if your mother was raped and murdered but you played for the Cowboys, you'd be cool with a commentator saying "Player X needs to run up in Venger and do his business like that rapist did to his mother?"

Sure you would.

How is a general metaphoric statement about a hurricane in any way, shape, or form like a specific ad hominem referral to rape and murder of a particular individual? Are you aware how retarded your example sounds? Quick! Take offense on behalf of all the developmentally challenged...

[Venger]

Etc., etc. In other words, there are way TOO many examples not mentioned above which could have been used to express the exact same thing, but Hampton could not think of any.

Why?

Because Katrina left New Orleans in a shambles. Metaphor accomplished.

Should people killed in the collapse of the WTC be offended by getting hit like a ton of bricks?

How about people who have been killed in a collusion with a Mack truck?

Each of your examples can be offensive to those *keen to be offended*. In this age of candy-***** victimology, there is always someone, somewhere ready to feel sorry for themselves and tear their clothes in phony consternation.

New Orleans is going down like the Titanic!

It's football. I think the seats for the sport some of you are looking for are in the ladies room...

[NinePointOh]

Because Katrina left New Orleans in a shambles. Metaphor accomplished.

Should people killed in the collapse of the WTC be offended by getting hit like a ton of bricks?

How about people who have been killed in a collusion with a Mack truck?

Each of your examples can be offensive to those *keen to be offended*. In this age of candy-***** victimology, there is always someone, somewhere ready to feel sorry for themselves and tear their clothes in phony consternation.

New Orleans is going down like the Titanic!

It's football. I think the seats for the sport some of you are looking for are in the ladies room...

It's fun to play the politically incorrect tough guy persona, but it doesn't really work that way in the grown-up world of business. Whatever line of work you're in, I'm pretty sure you (or your boss) would care if you offended hundreds of thousands of your own customers, even if you didn't mean to. I doubt you'd be calling them whiny pansies who need to grow a pair, but if by chance in a drunken stupor you happened to say it, you'd find yourself looking for a new job in a hurry.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

i think more people get put off by rapists and drug users in the sport then by peoples poor choice of words. thats just me

I suspect no one is put off by them either as most only care about those type of players on other teams, not your own.

SteelerFan will welcome Roethlisberger back with open arms when he returns just like we did Michael Irvin.

[ShiningStar]

I love political correctioness and how everyone is in charge to tell other people what is and not PC. Heres a tip, watch something go around and around, eventually being Political correct will offend someone. Where do you draw the line, or did i offend people who draw lines for a living?


:lmao2:

a football player not PC. and this is news, my gods I guess nothing else happened in the world, or everything is immediately soaked up and delivered and our short memories cant hold every piece of news into our saturated brains.

[Hypnotoad]

This opinion probably wont be popular...

the guy shouldn't apologize he was just trash talking.

The saints have used Katrina as a source of motivation and strength. The media goes 'oh this is a great story going from what happened to the city to superbowl champs.' I myself get sick of hearing this story of rags to riches.

Whats different from what Dan Hampton said to someone else saying 'Oh Reggie Bush just Assaulted/molested that defensive player' or 'the QB just got raped'. I have heard these things said, sometimes by game announcers sometimes by fans.

I have seen worse things done than what this guy said.

[cowfan]

People need to relax. He was making a sports methaphor. Would it be upsetting if he said the Vikings needs be like a hurricane instead of saying Katrina. I haven't heard many New Orleans residents crying over Hampton's comment. Another media generated controversy.

[Biggems]

i guess i am a bit cold, cause i dont find an issue with his comments. while they are a bit insensitive, he was a football player who played in the trenches...sensitivity is not allowed. The things said along the line of scrimmage would make a sailor sound like a preacher.

katrina was a natural disaster and could not be avoided....now the damage and severity could have been downgraded had the corruption within the state and city not taken away the levee money.

i feel bad for the people who had to and are still suffering because their state and local govt turned its back on them.

I will say this, being a member of the media and a member of an on-air analyst team, he should be more prudent with his comments. His employer has every right to censor what can and cant be said on the program. His employer has every right to fine, suspend, or even fire over certain comments that are deemed too provocative.

it is one thing to say it in the privacy of a lockerroom, in a huddle, or along the LOS, but to blast it on national airways, could cause quite a stir and even be grounds for dismissal.

So like I said, I have no issue with what he said about Katrina (and the brokeback comment was hilarious), but I can see why others would be upset. Oh and those of you who are really upset about the brokeback comment...stop getting your panties in a bunch and learn to not take our favorite team so seriously all the time.....

[DallasEast]

Because Katrina left New Orleans in a shambles. Metaphor accomplished.

Should people killed in the collapse of the WTC be offended by getting hit like a ton of bricks?

How about people who have been killed in a collusion with a Mack truck?

Each of your examples can be offensive to those *keen to be offended*. In this age of candy-***** victimology, there is always someone, somewhere ready to feel sorry for themselves and tear their clothes in phony consternation.

New Orleans is going down like the Titanic!

It's football. I think the seats for the sport some of you are looking for are in the ladies room...
:rolleyes:

1. The metaphor was not needed.
2. No one referred to the World Trade Center and/or New York City.
3. There is a fundamental difference between natural disasters (or even acts of terrorism) and getting randomly hit by large vehicles.
4. It is very possible that the only person who has been offended by my examples was someone (you) who was offended by non-offensive phrases.
5. I doubt anyone from the New Orleans or the Gulf Coast would be offended by a phrase mentioning a ship which has zero connection with Hurricane Katrina.
6. Understanding what is right or wrong is not a weakness. It is a strength.

[cowfan]

How about when players say the game will be a battle or they are going to war. Is this offensive to the military? Hampton made a comment that he regrets. It wasn't intended to offend anyone.

[NinePointOh]

Whats different from what Dan Hampton said to someone else saying 'Oh Reggie Bush just Assaulted/molested that defensive player' or 'the QB just got raped'. I have heard these things said, sometimes by game announcers sometimes by fans.

Oh pray tell, what reputable national sports commentator actually uses metaphors like "molested" and "raped" and never apologizes?

Fans have no customers, so they can say whatever they want -- especially with the safety of a computer in their own home, from which they can post anonymously and never have to see anyone face-to-face. A commentator's job is to attract viewers and sponsors, so when he says something that jeopardizes his appeal to hundreds of thousands of consumers, he'd have to be a terrible businessman not to make amends.

[Venger]

It's fun to play the politically incorrect tough guy persona, but it doesn't really work that way in the grown-up world of business.
It must be more fun to play the timid, thin-chested (but grown-up - snicker) business PR flack ever so constipatedly uptight that someone, somewhere might put the blame for all their troubles on what Dan Hampton might say. This nonsensical issue is the result of a press vacuum - nothing going on so we'll expand whatever enters to fill a news cycle.

Hampton has nothing to apologize for. Except for apologizing. That's gutless.

Whatever line of work you're in, I'm pretty sure you (or your boss) would care if you offended hundreds of thousands of your own customers, even if you didn't mean to. I doubt you'd be calling them whiny pansies who need to grow a pair, but if by chance in a drunken stupor you happened to say it, you'd find yourself looking for a new job in a hurry.

I am the boss, and I'll say as I please. If it means retaining customers who aren't uptight and losing the kind of customer who is a constant minefield of obsessions and sensitivities, good RIDDANCE. Ask any businessperson - there are customers not...worth...having... unless you are arguing that Hampton's comments endangered the NFL's business model.

For everyone who peed a little when they heard Dan Hampton's comments - curling or women's bowling is on ESPN 8 The Ocho.

[pancakeman]

Should people killed in the collapse of the WTC be offended by getting hit like a ton of bricks?

How about people who have been killed in a collusion with a Mack truck

I say no. I would not expect even one of those dead people to take offense.

[Venger]

:rolleyes:
This is your response - an emoticon. Way to stake out the intellectual high ground.
1. The metaphor was not needed.
Well who can argue with such a detailed and rhetorically significant argument like that? I guess it's all settled, the metaphor was "not needed". Is there a flow chart or database somewhere we can tap into to know when the "needed" metaphors are required? What kind of argument is that? Are you a linguistic syntactician? Exactly what are you qualifications for determining which metaphors are indeed needed and not needed? Jeez...
2. No one referred to the World Trade Center and/or New York City.
Sigh... pedantic non-response. The point is that even YOUR phrases can be offensive to a group looking to take offense.
3. There is a fundamental difference between natural disasters (or even acts of terrorism) and getting randomly hit by large vehicles.
Really! What insight to see such a nuanced distinction... the thing is, had you addressed the point - that, again, violent metaphors all carry groups that can take offense should they so choose - we'd be further along.
4. It is very possible that the only person who has been offended by my examples was someone (you) who was offended by non-offensive phrases.
Again, you are missing something called "the point". There is a difference between giving, and taking, offense. Given the oversensitivities on display it can be taken where it isn't given, even in what you think are your "safe" examples.
5. I doubt anyone from the New Orleans or the Gulf Coast would be offended by a phrase mentioning a ship which has zero connection with Hurricane Katrina.
I am not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse or not - this is like arguing with Rainman. Why is a sports metaphor regarding something that killed 1700 people okay on hand A, but not on hand B? Again, it's all back to taking offense, isn't it. Why are 1700 dead passengers "needed" for your sports metaphor, but 1700 dead Louisianan's "not needed"? Is it okay to hit the Dolphins like a hurricane? How about the Texans? Should it, for the sake of trembling cowardice everywhere, only be reserved for non-tropical locales? What hath female hormones in the water supply wrought?
6. Understanding what is right or wrong is not a weakness. It is a strength.Oh gee, self righteousness - who'd have guessed... you're fighting for good - how heroic of you! What time are you and the other Superfriends getting together at the Hall of Justice?

[Venger]

I say no. I would not expect even one of those dead people to take offense.
You have exposed sloppiness in my haste. I nod in your general direction...

[The30YardSlant]

People are too sensitive

[Arch Stanton]

Gay group calls for Dan Hampton to apologize for Cowboys 'Brokeback' comment

Posted at 11:26 PM on Tue., Sep. 7, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation has called for Hall of Famer Dan Hampton to apologize for referring to the Dallas Cowboys as more 'Brokeback' than Eastwood.

In a statement on its blog, a GLAAD official writes: "Hampton was trying to insult the Cowboys by comparing them to gay people - simple as that. Hampton wasn't actually saying the Cowboys players are gay, but by making this comment, Hampton telegraphed to his audience that gay men are not good enough, just as he doesn't believe the Dallas Cowboys are good enough. Hampton needs to apologize for this offensive and defamatory statement, just as he needed to apologize for his Katrina comment. We will be calling Pro Football Weekly to voice our concerns."

Read more: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/09/dan-hampton-aplogies-for-katri.html

[ScipioCowboy]

Gay group calls for Dan Hampton to apologize for Cowboys 'Brokeback' comment

Posted at 11:26 PM on Tue., Sep. 7, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation has called for Hall of Famer Dan Hampton to apologize for referring to the Dallas Cowboys as more 'Brokeback' than Eastwood.

In a statement on its blog, a GLAAD official writes: "Hampton was trying to insult the Cowboys by comparing them to gay people - simple as that. Hampton wasn't actually saying the Cowboys players are gay, but by making this comment, Hampton telegraphed to his audience that gay men are not good enough, just as he doesn't believe the Dallas Cowboys are good enough. Hampton needs to apologize for this offensive and defamatory statement, just as he needed to apologize for his Katrina comment. We will be calling Pro Football Weekly to voice our concerns."

Read more: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/09/dan-hampton-aplogies-for-katri.html

Well that does it! Gay people are actually offended by being compared to the Dallas Cowboys. Our beloved franchise has sunk to new lows. No wonder Awakened is fading as a fan.:p:

[CCBoy]

Gay group calls for Dan Hampton to apologize for Cowboys 'Brokeback' comment

Posted at 11:26 PM on Tue., Sep. 7, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation has called for Hall of Famer Dan Hampton to apologize for referring to the Dallas Cowboys as more 'Brokeback' than Eastwood.

In a statement on its blog, a GLAAD official writes: "Hampton was trying to insult the Cowboys by comparing them to gay people - simple as that. Hampton wasn't actually saying the Cowboys players are gay, but by making this comment, Hampton telegraphed to his audience that gay men are not good enough, just as he doesn't believe the Dallas Cowboys are good enough. Hampton needs to apologize for this offensive and defamatory statement, just as he needed to apologize for his Katrina comment. We will be calling Pro Football Weekly to voice our concerns."

Read more: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/09/dan-hampton-aplogies-for-katri.html

.....:busty:

[PBJTime]

I don't really get why some are so offended by this. I lived in New Orleans (Belle Chasse) for 3 years, including when Katrina hit. I lost stuff and people that I knew. It was a terrible disaster. However, this is just some trash talk related to football. He obviously doesn't wish another hurricane to hit the city of New Orleans. He's not wishing another disaster, he's just talking trash. Whatever. I'm not the slightest bit offended.

I know it was probably ill-advised, but really, people just need to man up and move on.

Keep in mind that I don't like this turd, either. I just hate when people ride something forever, thinking the whole world eternally owes them sympathy. Some of my best friends still live there and they don't act like that.

[PBJTime]

Because Katrina left New Orleans in a shambles. Metaphor accomplished.

Should people killed in the collapse of the WTC be offended by getting hit like a ton of bricks?

How about people who have been killed in a collusion with a Mack truck?

Each of your examples can be offensive to those *keen to be offended*. In this age of candy-***** victimology, there is always someone, somewhere ready to feel sorry for themselves and tear their clothes in phony consternation.

New Orleans is going down like the Titanic!

It's football. I think the seats for the sport some of you are looking for are in the ladies room...
Couldn't have said it better.:starspin

[NinePointOh]

I know it was probably ill-advised, but really, people just need to man up and move on.

Most people have. The outrage is currently coming from people who are offended that Hampton had the audacity to apologize. Yet somehow, it's Katrina victims who are thin-skinned.

[NinePointOh]

It must be more fun to play the timid, thin-chested (but grown-up - snicker) business PR flack ever so constipatedly uptight that someone, somewhere might put the blame for all their troubles on what Dan Hampton might say. This nonsensical issue is the result of a press vacuum - nothing going on so we'll expand whatever enters to fill a news cycle.

I'm sorry, I honestly have no idea what coherent point is supposed to be contained in these run-on sentences. I assume the point is to prove that you're an unashamedly politically incorrect guy who doesn't care what people think? If so, cool story bro.

I am the boss, and I'll say as I please. If it means retaining customers who aren't uptight and losing the kind of customer who is a constant minefield of obsessions and sensitivities, good RIDDANCE. Ask any businessperson - there are customers not...worth...having... And I contend that a businessman who is so quick to get defensive and place customers in that category is perhaps more thin-skinned than these Katrina victims.

"GRRRR I'M A MAN I DON'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS!"

unless you are arguing that Hampton's comments endangered the NFL's business model.He doesn't work for the NFL.

[PBJTime]

Most people have. The outrage is currently coming from people who are offended that Hampton had the audacity to apologize. Yet somehow, it's Katrina victims who are thin-skinned.

I'm not outraged that he apologized. He did what he had to do because of the overwhelming number of people who are offended and faux-offended, I assume.

Then there are those who have NO connection to the city of New Orleans, whatsover, who are offended because he offended people.

It's absurd that it had to come to an apology. His comment had no real bearing on anybody's life.

[PBJTime]

I'm sorry, I honestly have no idea what coherent point is supposed to be contained in these run-on sentences. I assume the point is to prove that you're an unashamedly politically incorrect guy who doesn't care what people think? If so, cool story bro.

And I contend that a businessman who is so quick to get defensive and place customers in that category is perhaps more thin-skinned than these Katrina victims.

"GRRRR I'M A MAN I DON'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS!"



I don't see how standing for a certain set of values and setting boundaries can be considered irresponsible...

Sometimes people decide what they are and aren't willing to tolerate, and then adhere to that. There is nothing wrong with that.

[CCBoy]

I don't see how standing for a certain set of values and setting boundaries can be considered irresponsible...

Sometimes people decide what they are and aren't willing to tolerate, and then adhere to that. There is nothing wrong with that.

Hey, you have a very durable and good set of defining criteria I have noticed. And I presume, Marine. I was a 'dogface.'

[DallasEast]

This is your response - an emoticon. Way to stake out the intellectual high ground."Emoticon" hate. :rolleyes: *oops*
Well who can argue with such a detailed and rhetorically significant argument like that? I guess it's all settled, the metaphor was "not needed". Is there a flow chart or database somewhere we can tap into to know when the "needed" metaphors are required? What kind of argument is that? Are you a linguistic syntactician? Exactly what are you qualifications for determining which metaphors are indeed needed and not needed? Jeez...You are overreacting. Answers: 1) No one should; 2) No; 3) It is not an argument. It is a statement and reasonable one at that. 4) No (and you are really overreacting now); 5) My "qualifications" should be the same as any other "reasonable" human being. You have taken the stance that any statement can be offensive to any and everyone. In the literal sense, that could be correct; but in the real world which we both live in, that does not happen.

On the one hand, Hampton's comment may or may not have been offensive to members of the New Orleans Saints; but it was taken as offensive by some members of the city and the region. Not all, but some. That is the consequence of making an insensitive remark as he did.

On the other hand, it is highly unlikely that anyone, both within or outside the region would consider any of my examples as offensive to the degree as you would suggest. Mine were taken from commonly used phrases of speech. Any reasonable individual (or at least I thought were reasonable) has not observed others reacting overtly negatively to the examples which I suggested after hearing or reading them.

Sigh... pedantic non-response. The point is that even YOUR phrases can be offensive to a group looking to take offense. In the literal sense, you are right. Using an example which you gave in a previous post, I am sure that someone with access to broadcast or print media such as Hampton, has addressed comments, directed solely towards New York City residents, that someone or some organization should hit them like a ton of bricks.

However, the question would then arise in the course of discussion if that particular commentator qualified his statement by intentionally associating "a ton of bricks" as those (literally) which fell during the most worse blatant act of terrorism which the country has ever suffered. Would someone consciously and willfully state something such as "The Minnesota Vikings should hit the New York Giants like the ton of bricks which fell from the Twin Towers"?

Of course, that could happen. Has it happened? I am asking because I do not know. What I do know (and what I assume any reasonable person would as well) is that both "ton of bricks" comments would not be taken equally by its intended audience. The previous comment is taken from common speech. The latter is purposely associating deadly debris from an actual traumatic event in U.S. history. Question: Is this particular example really how you see everything spoken by anyone as being nonoffensive to everyone else?
Really! What insight to see such a nuanced distinction... the thing is, had you addressed the point - that, again, violent metaphors all carry groups that can take offense should they so choose - we'd be further along. Hampton's comment was taken as offensive to a set group. Regardless of whether he considered the aftereffects of his comment, that was his intention. Maybe you can provide quantifiable examples of "groups", large or small, whom have taken comments such as my examples as offensive as well.
Again, you are missing something called "the point". There is a difference between giving, and taking, offense. Given the oversensitivities on display it can be taken where it isn't given, even in what you think are your "safe" examples. I have not missed the point which you are maligning for your own self-interest. The natural disaster which ravaged the Gulf Coast has not been forgotten by the citizens which endured its wrath. Some of those same people, which numbers in the hundreds of thousands, heard or read Hampton's comments. They associated his phraseology with an event which changed forever their lives profoundly and fundamentally either personally or familially.

You believe that this particular group should just "shake it off" and "not take things personally". Unfortunately, it is not human nature to consciously adopt amnesia after living through traumatic events and your indifference to their feelings on the matter will not enact that change as well.
I am not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse or not - this is like arguing with Rainman. Why is a sports metaphor regarding something that killed 1700 people okay on hand A, but not on hand B? Again, it's all back to taking offense, isn't it. Why are 1700 dead passengers "needed" for your sports metaphor, but 1700 dead Louisianan's "not needed"? Is it okay to hit the Dolphins like a hurricane? How about the Texans? Should it, for the sake of trembling cowardice everywhere, only be reserved for non-tropical locales? What hath female hormones in the water supply wrought?:rolleyes: *oops*

1. Hampton did not just say hurricane. New Orleans and the Gulf Region have endured many hurricanes for nearly two centuries. He singled out and associated one of the most devastating hurricanes in history. While all human life is precious, the deaths of thousands of people due to natural disaster are commonly horrific milestones within the human psyche and are not considered as equal to that sustained by a few or only one or none at all.

Hampton did not thumb through American meteorological history, selected a hurricane which came ashore and inflicted minimal damage and/or loss of life. He picked Katrina. That was his intent. He wanted the association to qualify his comment. Perhaps it seems reasonable to some that all "natural disasters" are equal and the same, but they are not. Hurricanes (plural), in particular, hit the United States every single year. Category Four and Five hurricanes do not and occasionally some do not cause the loss of life in the magnitude which Hampton pinned his words onto.

2. The team and city of Miami have endured hurricanes (again plural) as well. Even their most visible university's nickname reflects them. However, while you may neither understand nor see it, there would be a marked difference between Hampton (for instance) stating that, "The Minnesota Vikings should hit the Dolphins like a hurricane" and "The Minnesota Vikings should hit the Dolphins like Hurricane Alex" (which the city fortunately did not suffer a direct impact from).

3. (see #2)

4. Devastation and loss of large numbers of human lives are not overlooked by some. Any form of devastating disaster, whether natural or manmade, should be solemnly reflected upon. That would be a reasonable mindset for some. Others would may say, "meh. get over it".

5. You are still overreacting.
Oh gee, self righteousness - who'd have guessed... you're fighting for good - how heroic of you! What time are you and the other Superfriends getting together at the Hall of Justice?Well, I always fancied myself being Black Lightning!!! Still, that guy never wore pants...

Maybe it was because his legs transformed into lightning..?

Ah, who cares? A superhero wearing short-shorts while fighting crime? I don't THINK so! :mad:

*oops*

[NinePointOh]

I'm not outraged that he apologized. He did what he had to do because of the overwhelming number of people who are offended and faux-offended, I assume.

Then there are those who have NO connection to the city of New Orleans, whatsover, who are offended because he offended people.

And then there are still others who are offended that he "had" to apologize for offending people. But which of these offended groups insists they have thick skins?

I don't see how standing for a certain set of values and setting boundaries can be considered irresponsible...

A "certain set of values" can mean just about anything. Do your "values" really include feeling self-entitled to say whatever you want to your paying customers without ever apologizing to them? If so, that's your own choice, but you'd probably want to avoid going into service industries.

You can beat your chest all you want, but if you want to get anywhere in business, in marriage, or in life, sometimes it means you do have to man up and issue an apology, even if you don't think what you did was that bad.

Sometimes people decide what they are and aren't willing to tolerate, and then adhere to that. There is nothing wrong with that.Unless, of course, you happen to disagree with what they're willing to tolerate, right?

There's something wrong with Katrina victims being offended by Hampton's comments, but there's nothing wrong with "politically incorrect" junkies being offended by the fact that he felt the need to apologize.

[aikemirv]

I guess I'm just insensitive but I wasn't offended.. Did anyone actually think that he was wishing bad things on the city and trying to inflict emotional pain on people? .. It's an analogy...

If a fight commentator in reference to a smaller guy taking down a bigger guy said " he crumbled like the twin towers" is that supposed to upset me because he referenced a historical disaster which caused widespread and personal grief?

I could see if the small guy was muslim and the large guy was from NY.. it would illicit a "that's kind of messed up" response.. but why do people get so angry and offended? ... because it's deemed as poor taste? ..because they are referencing a negative and sad event? .. these things still happened .. they should be able to be referenced.. it's different than saying something like "I wish another Katrina on the city" .. he's not actually implying ill-will towards people.. he saying Minnesota has to go down there and "destroy" them "on the field" . But I guess he should have just said that because that would be more acceptable to just say destroy the other team and leave the city out of it.. as if he actually meant they should go down and ransack the city.

Sometimes I think people just like to act offended and slighted and make things personal for no reason other than to make themselves feel more important and righteous.

I agree, this is just ridiculous. The Vikings are not a Hurricane and they are not going to tear anyones building down obviously. He wants to destroy the football team, the Saints, like Katrina did the city.

So what, its football, its an analogy.

Grow up people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The30YardSlant]

In a statement on its blog, a GLAAD official writes: "Hampton was trying to insult the Cowboys by comparing them to gay people - simple as that.

Uh...duh

Glad we have groups like these to clear up issues such as these :rolleyes:

[Venger]

Snipped for brevity...
You believe that this particular group should just "shake it off" and "not take things personally". Unfortunately, it is not human nature to consciously adopt amnesia after living through traumatic events and your indifference to their feelings on the matter will not enact that change as well.
:rolleyes: *oops*
Ugh such a tediously bleating, overacted response - "enact that change". The more you dramatize your point, the more pathetic and phony it sounds. I can practically hear your shirt rip as you rend your clothing in the public square - self-soothing empathy, or at least self-serving. Because Dan Hampton has the power to make or break hurricane recovery efforts and the spirits of those involved! Give us all a big fat break.

1. Hampton did not just say hurricane. Tortured repetitive overstatement of this snipped No, he didn't say hurricane at all, did he? Point? That if he'd mentioned Hurricane Camille, all would be okay? Or would the same misery peddlers and clothes-renders have still managed to work up the same frothy amount of whining? "Hit New Orleans like a hurricane". The SAME handwringing and pantwetting would have happened, and you'd be here trying to "enact that change". Giggle.

Others would may say, "meh. get over it".
You've been doing this through your post, conflating attitudes toward the event with references about the event. Saying Hampton's comments aren't a big deal isn't saying Katrina wasn't a big deal. Quit acting like it is. It's dishonest in the extreme. Quit it, we all see it, it's cheap and it isn't fooling anyone.

5. You are still overreacting.
Says the guy with the Katrina stigmata and rended clothing in the public square! The overreaction is with those who peddle in grievances and victimization. The folks in New Orleans are big boys and girls, and as rational adults can figure out the difference between a sports metaphor and a real life disaster (which, frankly, was man made in nature, the hurricane itself was not particularly spectacular).

If someone says they are going to hit the Cowboys like a bolt of lightning or a tornado, I don't expect to see Coach DeCamillis go fetal and wet himself on the sideline - I expect he's man enough to know the difference between a metaphor and praying for the Wind God to strike down the Cowboys with mortal injury. HELL, the joke within the first hours of the event was "the Cowboys usually wait until the post-season to collapse, hardy har har". Are we men or are we so feminized, so castrated that we are threatened by rhetorical boogeymen, fleeing under the bed until we make the bad people stop their painful words? Criminey, you're a grown man, act like it!!!

Well, I always fancied myself being Black Lightning!!! Still, that guy never wore pants...
I think you are thinking of someone else perhaps... pretty sure he wore pants. Not alot of superhero options for the brothers, perhaps you are thinking of Black Vulcan? And why couldn't he just be Vulcan? It isn't White Superman!

[baj1dallas]

I saw no apology for his stupid "brokeback" reference to the Cowboys. That guy is just an idiot.

Why should he have to apologize for that?

[Hostile]

Why should he have to apologize for that?
Because similar to the Katrina comments he was being insensitive to gays. He went all out prejudice in his commentary that day trying to be funny. It wasn't.

[baj1dallas]

Because similar to the Katrina comments he was being insensitive to gays. He went all out prejudice in his commentary that day trying to be funny. It wasn't.

so it's insulting to gays to compare them to Cowboys players? Don't let the skins fans here you say that!

[aikemirv]

So not only are we supposed to embrace them and happily add gays to our culture, we can't be "insensitive" to them either.

Let's go play some "smear the queer" as we used to say on the playground!

[DallasEast]

Why the heck can I open another internet window, surf to Cowboyszone, open this thread, post a quick reply, BUT I can't post a long reply right now?

Stupid work internet filter! :banghead:

[punchnjudy]

I don't think Hampton was insulting gay people. He was just associating our favorite team with his favorite movie.

[Hostile]

so it's insulting to gays to compare them to Cowboys players? Don't let the skins fans here you say that!Uh, he was not giving gays a compliment, regardless of who he "compared" them to.

[DallasEast]

Ugh such a tediously bleating, overacted response - "enact that change". The more you dramatize your point, the more pathetic and phony it sounds. I can practically hear your shirt rip as you rend your clothing in the public square - self-soothing empathy, or at least self-serving. Because Dan Hampton has the power to make or break hurricane recovery efforts and the spirits of those involved! Give us all a big fat break.You're labeling me as dramatic, yet you are proclaiming that I am "ripping my shirt in a public square"? You're really getting into this, aren't you? Nonetheless, your exaggeration of what Hampton actually said (now he has the power to make or break hurricane recovery, yada, yada, yada) does not change what came out of his mouth.

"Give us 'all' a big fat break". :rolleyes:
Tortured repetitive overstatement of this snipped No, he didn't say hurricane at all, did he? Point? That if he'd mentioned Hurricane Camille, all would be okay? Or would the same misery peddlers and clothes-renders have still managed to work up the same frothy amount of whining? "Hit New Orleans like a hurricane". The SAME handwringing and pantwetting would have happened, and you'd be here trying to "enact that change". Giggle.So if Hampton utters 'Katrina' in a conversation about a game involving the New Orleans Saints, especially to underscore how much effort the Vikings should give during the game, the name does not automatically associate with the hurricane of the same name? That is not a 'point' in your mind? It is coincidence, I guess?

I doubt that Hampton would even consider (or know) to use Hurricane Camille to emphasize his comment. I am not certain if it would be viewed in the same light as stating Hurricane Katrina.

"Misery peddlers"? "Clothes-renders"? "Frothy whining"? "Handwringing"? "Pantwetting"?

You are going for a home run here, aren't you? Regardless, you have your opinion of Hampton's comments. Others agree with you. Others beside them do not. Your 'verbal exuberance' changes nothing.
You've been doing this through your post, conflating attitudes toward the event with references about the event. Saying Hampton's comments aren't a big deal isn't saying Katrina wasn't a big deal. Quit acting like it is. It's dishonest in the extreme. Quit it, we all see it, it's cheap and it isn't fooling anyone.As I stated in my original post on this thread, Hampton's use of the word Katrina was not necessary. He could have easily used other analogies to get his 'point' across. He choose not to. In your mind (and others on this very thread), his use of the term should have zero negative connotations to anyone listening or reading it.

Quite frankly, that is disingenuous. Your demand has failed. If you believe that your interpretation is shared by everyone else, you are fooling yourself.
disingeniousSays the guy with the Katrina stigmata and rended clothing in the public square! The overreaction is with those who peddle in grievances and victimization. The folks in New Orleans are big boys and girls, and as rational adults can figure out the difference between a sports metaphor and a real life disaster (which, frankly, was man made in nature, the hurricane itself was not particularly spectacular).[/quote]"Stigmata" and more clothes-rending. And you enjoy the public square bit a lot.

No one (that I have seen thus far) has not differentiated Hampton's intended use of "Katrina" within his "The Minnesota Vikings should hit New Orleans like Katrina" phrase. My point (which you avoid by misaligning it) it was not necessary for him to use the term to get his point across--not because he was invoking mythical weather powess, but that he was underscoring an event which impacted the Gulf Coast in a devastating way. With many alternatives available to him, this was his intent and he took it.

Again, it did not offend you. It did not offend some who heard or read it that reside within the Gulf Coast. However, it did offend others. Our discussion of this will not change any 'side', but acknowledgment of Hampton's unnecessary use of the term will be conveyed by some and not by others.

It has almost gotten to the point where speaking your mind must have zero consequences. In a human society as diversed as ours, especially in this country alone, that's an... amazing assumption.
If someone says they are going to hit the Cowboys like a bolt of lightning or a tornado, I don't expect to see Coach DeCamillis go fetal and wet himself on the sideline - I expect he's man enough to know the difference between a metaphor and praying for the Wind God to strike down the Cowboys with mortal injury. HELL, the joke within the first hours of the event was "the Cowboys usually wait until the post-season to collapse, hardy har har". Are we men or are we so feminized, so castrated that we are threatened by rhetorical boogeymen, fleeing under the bed until we make the bad people stop their painful words? Criminey, you're a grown man, act like it!!!Now Katrina = the tragedy which befell Joe DeCamillis, Rich Behm and a dozen others.

Man.

This is getting worse, so I will establish one ground rule before this conversation continues (if it does):

...

Keep the genitalia talk out of this thread

...

I think you are thinking of someone else perhaps... pretty sure he wore pants. Not alot of superhero options for the brothers, perhaps you are thinking of Black Vulcan? And why couldn't he just be Vulcan? It isn't White Superman!You're right. I was thinking Marvel instead of that DC crap. :banghead:

Heck, at least Marvel has Black Lightning wearing pants. :o: :)

[Bob Sacamano]

Why the heck can I open another internet window, surf to Cowboyszone, open this thread, post a quick reply, BUT I can't post a long reply right now?

Stupid work internet filter! :banghead:

LOL why are you asking us a question where you fully know the answer to? You're a funny bird, DE.

[DallasEast]

LOL why are you asking us a question where you fully know the answer to? You're a funny bird, DE.
:tongue:

[Biggems]

Gay group calls for Dan Hampton to apologize for Cowboys 'Brokeback' comment

Posted at 11:26 PM on Tue., Sep. 7, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
SportsDayDFW sports Bio | E-mail | News tips
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation has called for Hall of Famer Dan Hampton to apologize for referring to the Dallas Cowboys as more 'Brokeback' than Eastwood.

In a statement on its blog, a GLAAD official writes: "Hampton was trying to insult the Cowboys by comparing them to gay people - simple as that. Hampton wasn't actually saying the Cowboys players are gay, but by making this comment, Hampton telegraphed to his audience that gay men are not good enough, just as he doesn't believe the Dallas Cowboys are good enough. Hampton needs to apologize for this offensive and defamatory statement, just as he needed to apologize for his Katrina comment. We will be calling Pro Football Weekly to voice our concerns."

Read more: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/09/dan-hampton-aplogies-for-katri.html


cry me a freakin river.....gay people are so overly sensative it is disgusting. have a freakin sense of humor. learn to laugh at yourself.

I am fat, balding, and white. I dont get upset at fat humor, bald humor, or when white people are made fun of. Actually, as long as the joke is funny, I will laugh my tail off.

Life is too short, stop taking everything and ourselves so darned seriously.....take some time out to look into the mirror and laugh.