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dragon_mikal
02-16-2005, 03:36 PM
Before you jump on someone's bandwagon they should have to prove something, shouldn't they? What has Drew Henson done that would make anyone think he is starter material? Sure he's smart and he has the tools (according to certain people) but that doesn't guarantee that he's going to start next year or the year after. He may never start for this team again for all we know.

I hope that he is the answer. I hope he starts from week 1 to week 17 next year and proves to everyone that he is the future of this franchise. Thing is he has to earn the right to start, first. Just because we traded for him doesn't mean he automatically gets the starting position. If he was a first round pick, then maybe. But Jerry and Bill got him cheap hoping he would show them something, which he apparently hasn't. Some people here do nothing but whine and moan about Bill Parcells not starting him last year. Well...get over it already. I was a little confused as well, but there is a reason Bill Parcells is a head coach and we are not. I still firmly believe that it wasn't starting Vinny Testeverde that screwed up our season last year. It was the success we had in 2003 that set us up for disappointment.

And if I had to choose between Vinny Testeverde and Drew Bledsoe I would chose Vinny. He already knows the system and understands that there is a really good chance that he may be in a backup role next year, whether he goes back to NY or stays in Dallas. I also feel that he is in much better shape and is more mobile. (Believe it or not.)


:skins: :iggles: :jints:

Fan Since 77
02-16-2005, 03:40 PM
Before you jump on someone's bandwagon they should have to prove something, shouldn't they? What has Drew Henson done that would make anyone think he is starter material? Sure he's smart and he has the tools (according to certain people) but that doesn't guarantee that he's going to start next year or the year after. He may never start for this team again for all we know.

I hope that he is the answer. I hope he starts from week 1 to week 17 next year and proves to everyone that he is the future of this franchise. Thing is he has to earn the right to start, first. Just because we traded for him doesn't mean he automatically gets the starting position. If he was a first round pick, then maybe. But Jerry and Bill got him cheap hoping he would show them something, which he apparently hasn't. Some people here do nothing but whine and moan about Bill Parcells not starting him last year. Well...get over it already. I was a little confused as well, but there is a reason Bill Parcells is a head coach and we are not. I still firmly believe that it wasn't starting Vinny Testeverde that screwed up our season last year. It was the success we had in 2003 that set us up for disappointment.

And if I had to choose between Vinny Testeverde and Drew Bledsoe I would chose Vinny. He already knows the system and understands that there is a really good chance that he may be in a backup role next year, whether he goes back to NY or stays in Dallas. I also feel that he is in much better shape and is more mobile. (Believe it or not.)


:skins: :iggles: :jints:

You're not understanding the argument that Henson supporters are making. Let me help. We don't know if he's going to be any good. Ok? Let's move on. We would rather him play so we can find out. In our opinion, we believe finding out would be a better option than another washed up quarterback comming into town to try another band-aid fix.

So to answer your main question. No, he doesn't have to prove anything for people to jump on his bandwagon.

Doomsday101
02-16-2005, 03:40 PM
Before you jump on someone's bandwagon they should have to prove something, shouldn't they? What has Drew Henson done that would make anyone think he is starter material? Sure he's smart and he has the tools (according to certain people) but that doesn't guarantee that he's going to start next year or the year after. He may never start for this team again for all we know.

I hope that he is the answer. I hope he starts from week 1 to week 17 next year and proves to everyone that he is the future of this franchise. Thing is he has to earn the right to start, first. Just because we traded for him doesn't mean he automatically gets the starting position. If he was a first round pick, then maybe. But Jerry and Bill got him cheap hoping he would show them something, which he apparently hasn't. Some people here do nothing but whine and moan about Bill Parcells not starting him last year. Well...get over it already. I was a little confused as well, but there is a reason Bill Parcells is a head coach and we are not. I still firmly believe that it wasn't starting Vinny Testeverde that screwed up our season last year. It was the success we had in 2003 that set us up for disappointment.

And if I had to choose between Vinny Testeverde and Drew Bledsoe I would chose Vinny. He already knows the system and understands that there is a really good chance that he may be in a backup role next year, whether he goes back to NY or stays in Dallas. I also feel that he is in much better shape and is more mobile. (Believe it or not.)


:skins: :iggles: :jints:


Why did the NY draft Manning? or Dallas Aikman? Yes Henson needs to learn and having been away from the game for 3 years I was more than willing to say let him sit last year but for him to get to the point of being ready to play he will need the reps in camp to do so just as Aikman was taking the majority of the snaps before he proved anything.

dragon_mikal
02-16-2005, 04:00 PM
Why did the NY draft Manning? or Dallas Aikman? Yes Henson needs to learn and having been away from the game for 3 years I was more than willing to say let him sit last year but for him to get to the point of being ready to play he will need the reps in camp to do so just as Aikman was taking the majority of the snaps before he proved anything.

Drew Henson is not Troy Aikman. Jimmy Johnson knew what he had with Troy, Bill doesn't know what he has with Henson. Eli Manning never should've started last year...chances are the Giants might have made the playoffs if Kurt Warner had been behind center all season. He was having an ok season.

I'm just saying that no one should be suprised if Drew never starts for us.

BrAinPaiNt
02-16-2005, 04:05 PM
Those that are SURE, and will argue it all day everyday, that Henson is the answer and they just know it....well not really a good idea to even argue with them as no matter what they have their mind set up.

For the majority of us however we HOPE he is the next guy for many reasons.
One because we need another Franchise QB, another because it would mean less picks towards finding the next guy if he is not.

Nobody truly knows if he is the guy, at the same time nobody knows that he is NOT.

More hoping then anything on my part. :cool:

Banned_n_austin
02-16-2005, 04:06 PM
So to answer your main question. No, he doesn't have to prove anything for people to jump on his bandwagon.

Thank goodness our coach doesn't share that same view. Not just any high schooler can come in and QB an NFL team.

Doomsday101
02-16-2005, 04:10 PM
Drew Henson is not Troy Aikman. Jimmy Johnson knew what he had with Troy, Bill doesn't know what he has with Henson. Eli Manning never should've started last year...chances are the Giants might have made the playoffs if Kurt Warner had been behind center all season. He was having an ok season.

I'm just saying that no one should be suprised if Drew never starts for us.

Parcells I think knows a lot more about Henson than you think. He was not ready to throw him out there and said so but what did the fans do? pout and throw fits because Henson was not out there as they felt he should have been. As for Henson not being as good as Aikman again there is no way to know how good this kid can be. What gets me is these fools who want to write Henson off because Hutchinson failed. They are not the same people

joseephuss
02-16-2005, 04:13 PM
Drew Henson is not Troy Aikman. Jimmy Johnson knew what he had with Troy, Bill doesn't know what he has with Henson. Eli Manning never should've started last year...chances are the Giants might have made the playoffs if Kurt Warner had been behind center all season. He was having an ok season.

I'm just saying that no one should be suprised if Drew never starts for us.

Jimmy didn't know for sure what he had in Aikman and that is why he grabbed Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft.

Drew Henson is not Troy Aikman. He may never live up to that hall of fame level. According to Bill, he doesn't need that high of quality of QB to win. I agree with that. Teams can win with just a decent QB. He doesn't have to be stellar. No one knows for certain at this time if Henson or Romo will be decent QBs. We all do know that Vinny and Bledsoe and Garcia are no longer decent QBs. So, why waste any time with those guys. Find some other option or throw the young guys into the fire.

dewey
02-16-2005, 04:16 PM
According to Bill, he doesn't need that high of quality of QB to win. I agree with that. .
And Bill has proven that statement correct, when the Giants won the SB with Jeff Hostetler.

InmanRoshi
02-16-2005, 04:18 PM
He needs to be looked at for exactly what he is ... a 3rd round draft pick in a draft a year away (so really, he's a 4th round draft pick). That's what he is. He's not Troy Aikman. He's not Chad Hutchinson. He's not Neo. He's a 3rd round draft pick in a draft a year away.

That's what 32 NFL General Managers and NFL Personnel departments objectively determined his value to be. That's the most objective and educated guess you can go by.

You can win a Superbowl with a 3rd round draft pick QB. You can find a franchise QB with a 3rd round draft pick. However, he's not to be compared to Troy Aikman, or Eli Manning, or Ben Rothlesberger, or even JP Losman. He's not on their level, otherwise an NFL team would have given more than a 3rd round draft pick in a draft a year away. He's on the level of Luke McNown and Matt Schaub, guys who were picked at the value 32 NFL Personnel Departments thought were comparable to Drew Henson.

joseephuss
02-16-2005, 04:19 PM
And Bill has proven that statement correct, when the Giants won the SB with Jeff Hostetler.

I thought he proved it with Simms. Both those guys were not great, but the years they each won the Superbowl their play was better than that of Vinny, Bledsoe or Garcia this past season.

Fan Since 77
02-16-2005, 04:37 PM
You have a better option banned? Please enlighten me. What is your quaterback option for the Cowboys next year? I'm all ears.

DWAREZ
02-16-2005, 04:48 PM
Those that are SURE, and will argue it all day everyday, that Henson is the answer and they just know it....well not really a good idea to even argue with them as no matter what they have their mind set up.

For the majority of us however we HOPE he is the next guy for many reasons.
One because we need another Franchise QB, another because it would mean less picks towards finding the next guy if he is not.

Nobody truly knows if he is the guy, at the same time nobody knows that he is NOT.

More hoping then anything on my part. :cool:
Agreed!!

Outlaw Heroes
02-16-2005, 04:52 PM
However, he's not to be compared to Troy Aikman, or Eli Manning, or Ben Rothlesberger, or even JP Losman. He's not on their level, otherwise an NFL team would have given more than a 3rd round draft pick in a draft a year away.

I would say your conclusion is improperly drawn, for a number of reasons. Henson fetched a future 3rd only because of the layoff and relative lack of experience. In terms of raw talent, he would rate with any of those guys. It's fairly well known that many scouts felt he would have been the first overall pick had he not left school to pursue baseball.

BTW, when Green Bay gave up "only" a second round pick to Atlanta for Favre, did that condemn him to never being on the level of such great talents as "Losman". What about when San Fran deemed Montana worthy of nothing more than a 3rd round pick, or when New England deemed Brady worthy of only a 6th round pick? These examples alone should be enough to point out the folly in determining what "level" a player might be at simply by looking at what a team gave up to get him.

Banned_n_austin
02-16-2005, 04:55 PM
You have a better option banned? Please enlighten me. What is your quaterback option for the Cowboys next year? I'm all ears.


Logic would tell me to sign Bledsoe. He's the best FA out there.

I'd also sign Fruitcake Garcia for depth if I could do it cheap enough.

cowboyeric8
02-16-2005, 04:55 PM
Hey we like to root for players that we think can make it. Like we thought Quincy and Chad would but didn't. Everybody has there guy. EX: The Saints have never done anything but yet there are crazy Lousianians going nuts over them. Everybody has a favorite. Me, I'm with Henson.

RCowboyFan
02-16-2005, 04:55 PM
He needs to be looked at for exactly what he is ... a 3rd round draft pick in a draft a year away (so really, he's a 4th round draft pick). That's what he is. He's not Troy Aikman. He's not Chad Hutchinson. He's not Neo. He's a 3rd round draft pick in a draft a year away.

That's what 32 NFL General Managers and NFL Personnel departments objectively determined his value to be. That's the most objective and educated guess you can go by.

You can win a Superbowl with a 3rd round draft pick QB. You can find a franchise QB with a 3rd round draft pick. However, he's not to be compared to Troy Aikman, or Eli Manning, or Ben Rothlesberger, or even JP Losman. He's not on their level, otherwise an NFL team would have given more than a 3rd round draft pick in a draft a year away. He's on the level of Luke McNown and Matt Schaub, guys who were picked at the value 32 NFL Personnel Departments thought were comparable to Drew Henson.

Can we have sticky that identifies all the myths and notions about Drew Henson and their answers so it wont be quoted often as the truth every time?

First of all, Drew Henson had the Texans over a barrel. Since he had all the options in his hand. He would have gone back to draft and been at the very least according any draft board before he was traded high 2nd round pick. Most stating him to be late First Round.

Heck, Jaws stated he thought he was the best QB even in the draft last year, based on what he saw on tapes in their respective College Careers. And there are numerous other draft experts rating him at the top.

So 32 General Managers didn't have option to sign him. Only one really had, since Drew said that he wanted to go to Cowboys. Please, if Miami could pay 2nd round pick for a 3rd string QB with Eagles, Henson if he really wanted to go to open market would have opted for draft and probably ended at the very least with high 2nd round pick.

Lastly, Henson played in like 21+ plus games in total in college, and only started in 9 Games during his junior, year, so they had plenty of tape to evaluate on too, just in case you toss that out.

So my point is, sure he is 3rd pick and you can view him as such. But don’t try to say that is indeed the evaluation of 31 other GMs/Scouts etc. And yes he is not Aikman/Hutch etc. He is Henson and he has to prove himself. But he is not a normal 3rd round pick as you want everyone to believe. But we will find out hopefully soon, what he is.

Portland Fanatic
02-16-2005, 04:58 PM
Logic would tell me to sign Bledsoe. He's the best FA out there.

I'd also sign Fruitcake Garcia for depth if I could do it cheap enough.
the fact that you even consider Garcia a QB is enough for me...

I lived in the Bay Area for 8 years before moving to Portland...my in-laws are huge niner fans...I watched him play way to many times.

He SUX....without west coast offense he is not even on the field! Thus his major failure in Cleveland.

You know about QB's if you are even considering GARTHIA in Dallas....hell NO!

Fan Since 77
02-16-2005, 04:58 PM
Logic would tell me to sign Bledsoe. He's the best FA out there.

I'd also sign Fruitcake Garcia for depth if I could do it cheap enough.

We're not winning a superbowl with Bledsoe. He had medicore stats with an arguably better supporting offensive cast around him than the Cowboys would assemble around him now. So if we're not going to win the superbowl, then why even bother? That's the whole point isn't it?

Zaxor
02-16-2005, 05:03 PM
We're not winning a superbowl with Bledsoe. He had medicore stats with an arguably better supporting offensive cast around him than the Cowboys would assemble around him now. So if we're not going to win the superbowl, then why even bother? That's the whole point isn't it?
Of course it is...but some folk have these agenda's

InmanRoshi
02-16-2005, 05:08 PM
First of all, Drew Henson had the Texans over a barrel. Since he had all the options in his hand. He would have gone back to draft and been at the very least according any draft board before he was traded high 2nd round pick. Most stating him to be late First Round.

Those draft boards, which I never saw one of, were obviously wrong. 32 NFL Franchises decided he was worth a 3rd round pick in the following draft. You might have seen a lot of draft boards that said Randy Starks was a Top 15 pick in February, but the reality is he was a 3rd round pick, because that's where he was taken in April 23rd when people who actually make decisions on such things decided so.


What leverage did Drew Henson have? What are all of these supposed "options"? Go back into the draft to be taken in the middle rounds? Settle for middle round draft pick money with absolutely no idea what franchise or situation you would end up in?

Yeah, I can just see it now.. "Hey Texans, you better trade me to the Cowboys for that 3rd round draft pick, or else I'm going into the draft where I might be taken by the Bengals in the 4th round for a $125 signing bonus to be Carson Palmer's backup !!!"

And, obviously, the Texans had to cave ... having spent that whopping 192nd pick in the draft on him and all, you can't just let that kind of investment go for nothing. When your 192nd pick in the draft says "jump", you say "How high?". When a 6th round pick "Were doing things my way", you say "Yes, sir".

"Do you know who I am? I'm Zuriel Smith, dangit, and I have you over the barrel. So bend over and take it Zuriel-style, or else watch your precious 6th round draft pick disappear"

HTownCowboysFan
02-16-2005, 05:14 PM
How about us developing a guy for once? There is nothing wrong with Henson sitting another year. Or two for that matter. It means nothing except he isn't ready to play. When he is, he'll be playing.

We're too damn quick to annoit a guy the second coming of Staubach, and just as quick to lable him a no talent bun we need cut.

Portland Fanatic
02-16-2005, 05:20 PM
How about us developing a guy for once? There is nothing wrong with Henson sitting another year. Or two for that matter. It means nothing except he isn't ready to play. When he is, he'll be playing.

We're too damn quick to annoit a guy the second coming of Staubach, and just as quick to lable him a no talent bun we need cut.
Having this year to sit back and learn was good...that added to another couple years not being in a game situation becomes a problem...even for those of us that want him to be "IT"...

He needs to play this year...if he sux...hell I'll drive the wagon off the cliff, but his window is 2005...longer then that screw it and draft a QB...

Fan Since 77
02-16-2005, 05:22 PM
How about us developing a guy for once? There is nothing wrong with Henson sitting another year. Or two for that matter. It means nothing except he isn't ready to play. When he is, he'll be playing.

We're too damn quick to annoit a guy the second coming of Staubach, and just as quick to lable him a no talent bun we need cut.


Hog Wash. You don't develop by standing on the sidelines. Let the kid play, for better or worse. Give him a full year. If he doesn't show any signs of improvement at all, use the high draft pick from the horrible record and sign the top rated QB in the draft.

InmanRoshi
02-16-2005, 05:24 PM
Hog Wash. You don't develop by standing on the sidelines.

Hogwash, in and of itself, and proven wrong on numerous examples.

Fan Since 77
02-16-2005, 05:31 PM
Hogwash, in and of itself, and proven wrong on numerous examples.

You'll find situations of quarterbacks sitting for years and then finally getting a shot and sucking.
You'll find situations where the quarterback is tossed into the mix and being great from the start, or eventually being great.

So why is letting Henson sit on the bench the right way to handle him?

Rothlesburger(sp) did ok for not riding the pine.

How are you so sure this is the best thing for Henson?

InmanRoshi
02-16-2005, 05:35 PM
NFL Personnel Deparments decided Ben Rothlesberger's value was a Top 15 draft pick. Those same teams also decided Drew Henson's value was a 3rd round draft pick in the following year's draft.

If you can't see the difference between Henson and Rothlesberger's situation, we need to end the conversation immediately.

dewey
02-16-2005, 05:35 PM
Rothlesburger(sp) did ok for not riding the pine.


Clearly an exception, not the norm. Big Ben had also NOT spent the three prior years trying to hit a baseball, but was actually playing the game of football. Another excellant example of letting a kid "ride the pine" is Brady. He sat behind Bledsoe his first year, and may have his second year had Bledsoe not been hurt.

Banned_n_austin
02-16-2005, 05:37 PM
the fact that you even consider Garcia a QB is enough for me...

I lived in the Bay Area for 8 years before moving to Portland...my in-laws are huge niner fans...I watched him play way to many times.

He SUX....without west coast offense he is not even on the field! Thus his major failure in Cleveland.

You know about QB's if you are even considering GARTHIA in Dallas....hell NO!


As a backup. .

He'd be better than having a high school QB. .

What do you 'know' about Henson?

RCowboyFan
02-16-2005, 05:38 PM
Those draft boards, which I never saw one of, were obviously wrong. 32 NFL Franchises decided he was worth a 3rd round pick in the following draft. You might have seen a lot of draft boards that said Randy Starks was a Top 15 pick in February, but the reality is he was a 3rd round pick, because that's where he was taken in April when push came to shove.


What leverage did Drew Henson have? What are all of these supposed "options"? Go back into the draft to be taken in the middle rounds? Settle for middle round draft pick money with absolutely no idea what franchise or situation you would end up in?

Yeah, I can just see it now.. "Hey Texans, you better trade me to the Cowboys for that 3rd round draft pick, or else I'm going into the draft to be taken by the Bengals in the 4th round for a $125 signing bonus to be Carson Palmer's backup !!!"

And, obviously, the Texans had to cave ... having spent that whopping 192nd pick in the draft on him and all, you can't just let that kind of investment go for nothing. When your 192nd pick in the draft says "jump", you say "How high?". When a 6th round pick "Were doing things my way", you say "Yes, sir".

"Do you know who I am? I'm Zuriel Smith, dangit, and I have you over the barrel. So bend over and take it Zuriel-style"


In other words, you want to believe what you want to believe. Just say that, why round about way of saying thats the opinion of majority.

Rest of the drivel, is worthless to even argue about, since it is drivel. You never saw one draft or talked to one GM/Scout who was interested in Drew Henson, but yet already made the assumption thats what they thought about Drew Henson. Since you already assume that Henson would have been picked in Middle Rounds, without any facts to backup other than the fact.

I posted some articles down below for those lazy to even do some basic research before spouting some opinions as facts. Read the one that is in BOld, which gives the main reason why Henson trade wasn't an easy one.

I guess for a guy who would end up in Middle rounds if he went to draft, had way too many teams paying attention to him so much

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1758167
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1733724
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=1732822
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=1740198
:rolleyes:

Fan Since 77
02-16-2005, 05:38 PM
ok, forget I even used Big ben as an example.

Let's go back, and not ignore my other examples please.

Some qbs ride the pine and suck
Some qbs start with little to no experience and turn out great(even if sucking at first), which is probably the category Henson will fall into.

blindzebra
02-16-2005, 05:38 PM
Those draft boards, which I never saw one of, were obviously wrong. 32 NFL Franchises decided he was worth a 3rd round pick in the following draft. You might have seen a lot of draft boards that said Randy Starks was a Top 15 pick in February, but the reality is he was a 3rd round pick, because that's where he was taken in April 23rd when people who actually make decisions on such things decided things.


What leverage did Drew Henson have? What are all of these supposed "options"? Go back into the draft to be taken in the middle rounds? Settle for middle round draft pick money with absolutely no idea what franchise or situation you would end up in?

Yeah, I can just see it now.. "Hey Texans, you better trade me to the Cowboys for that 3rd round draft pick, or else I'm going into the draft where I might be taken by the Bengals in the 4th round for a $125 signing bonus to be Carson Palmer's backup !!!"

And, obviously, the Texans had to cave ... having spent that whopping 192nd pick in the draft on him and all, you can't just let that kind of investment go for nothing. When your 192nd pick in the draft says "jump", you say "How high?". When a 6th round pick "Were doing things my way", you say "Yes, sir".

"Do you know who I am? I'm Zuriel Smith, dangit, and I have you over the barrel. So bend over and take it Zuriel-style"


Buffalo offered more than a 3rd for him, but Henson said he would not sign with Houston if he was going to be traded to Buffalo. Henson WANTED to come to Dallas.

According to JJT in his article about courting Henson Dallas had him graded out as a late first rd pick in the 2004 draft.

Had the trade not happened, it is LIKELY that Henson would have been drafted in the first round, and possibly by Dallas.

Once again, your agenda is showing. :rolleyes:

RCowboyFan
02-16-2005, 05:45 PM
Buffalo offered more than a 3rd for him, but Henson said he would not sign with Houston if he was going to be traded to Buffalo. Henson WANTED to come to Dallas.

According to JJT in his article about courting Henson Dallas had him graded out as a late first rd pick in the 2004 draft.

Had the trade not happened, it is LIKELY that Henson would have been drafted in the first round, and possibly by Dallas.

Once again, your agenda is showing. :rolleyes:

Really? :D

InmanRoshi
02-16-2005, 05:45 PM
I've never once seen this article by JJT. I would like to see it, because I've sure heard a lot about it.

I just deal with reality. The reality is Drew Henson is worth a 3rd round pick in the following year's draft, because that's what he went for. I don't care about where he was speculated to go by some unknown source. n.

Look I found a mock draft where someone speculated Jacob Rogers is the 8th pick in the draft !!!

http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com/y/2004-nfl-draft/mock-drafts/36a.php

RCowboyFan
02-16-2005, 05:48 PM
I've never once seen this article by JJT. I would like to see it, because I've sure heard a lot about it.

I just deal with reality. The reality is Drew Henson is worth a 3rd round pick in the following year's draft, because that's what he went for. I don't care about where he was speculated to go by some unknown source. n.

Look I found a mock draft where someone speculated Jacob Rogers is the 8th pick in the draft !!!

http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com/y/2004-nfl-draft/mock-drafts/36a.php

We are talking about legitimate Draft guides not your friend's Brother-in-law's cousin, who has friend, who knows about football and can do some web sites.

For a guy who has not read that article, seems to spout as if you read everything that is to know about Henson. :cool:

InmanRoshi
02-16-2005, 05:53 PM
The same legitimate draft guides who had Randy Starks and Will Poole going in the Top 15 last February?

Yep, that's cold hard reality. That's why Steven Jackson went in the top 5. The evidence that Henson was going in the 1st round is irrefutable.

scottsp
02-16-2005, 05:55 PM
There is more than one way to skin a cat. Some quarterbacks have held a clipboard for years before being tossed out there while others were thrown directly to the wolves. Categorically speaking, there have been monumental successes and failures on both sides of the equation.

Much has to do with the individual himself. The rest goes to right time, right place, situation, coach, system, you name it. Ours is a situation where there is absolutely nothing to lose at this point. We have people just begging to pluck Drew Bledsoe off the street in a few weeks. That should tell you plenty about where we stand currently in the scheme of things.

I don't know how Parcells or the rest of the staff feel about Henson at this point in time. My gut tells me no one else here does either. But we can all pretty much see what our options might be. And if the worst thing coming out of starting Henson is getting his head kicked in, then I say let's go with that.

I don't really feel the need to justify why I believe Henson has a shot as a legitimate NFL quarterback. Make no mistake, I certainly do. Point is, it would be nice to know if there is any basis whatsoever to my conviction.

So yeah, I stand firmly on this "bandwagon." And there I shall remain until I am given ample reason to hop off.

RCowboyFan
02-16-2005, 06:10 PM
The same legitimate draft guides who had Randy Starks and Will Poole going in the Top 15 last February?

Yep, that's cold hard reality. That's why Steven Jackson went in the top 5. The evidence that Henson was going in the 1st round is irrefutable.

Let me guess, you were a Hard Core Quincy Supporter, right?
:eek:

Quincy was supposed to be 3rd or 4th round pick. Well I guess Jerry didn't get that draft guides. Heck I thought Rivers wasn't even listed in top 5 even before the draft and he went 4th overall. Well I guess your draft guides only say what you want to believe in I guess :rolleyes:

ABQCOWBOY
02-16-2005, 06:22 PM
We will never know what Henson might have gone at but it is very true that Henson forced the trade to Dallas and the Cowboys were willing to part with a third. That is not a ficticious statement. Had Houston not accepted the deal, they would have gotten nothing for Henson. He would have gone back into the draft pool and been selected at who knows where.

Is he worth a third? Is he worth a 1st? Time will tell but one thing is sure in my mind. He will get a chance to prove his worth.

Cbz40
02-16-2005, 06:28 PM
Those that are SURE, and will argue it all day everyday, that Henson is the answer and they just know it....well not really a good idea to even argue with them as no matter what they have their mind set up.

For the majority of us however we HOPE he is the next guy for many reasons.
One because we need another Franchise QB, another because it would mean less picks towards finding the next guy if he is not.

Nobody truly knows if he is the guy, at the same time nobody knows that he is NOT.

More hoping then anything on my part. :cool:


Mr BrainPaint, I do not know if Drew Henson is the answer to our QB problems or not. Having said that, I would still like to see him given a chance to prove whether he has it or he doesn't.

As you, I'm on the hoping Drew Henson has it Bandwagon .........I think we would all like to see a young ,soon to be Franchise QB, take the helm.

Portland Fanatic
02-16-2005, 06:31 PM
Mr BrainPaint, I do not know if Drew Henson is the answer to our QB problems or not. Having said that, I would still like to see him given a chance to prove whether he has it or he doesn't.

As you, I'm on the hoping Drew Henson has it Bandwagon .........I think we would all like to see a young ,soon to be Franchise QB, take the helm.
I feel the exact same way Cbz....I just want him to take the field so we can see for ourselves.

If BP does not think so, then he owes it to us to say "Hry fans...this kid really sux and is over rated"...don't ya think? lol

Cbz40
02-16-2005, 06:34 PM
I feel the exact same way Cbz....I just want him to take the field so we can see for ourselves.

If BP does not think so, then he owes it to us to say "Hry fans...this kid really sux and is over rated"...don't ya think? lol

Absolutely PF.

SultanOfSix
02-16-2005, 06:34 PM
No. I won't be off until he plays and he doesn't show anything. I hope he does because I want our QB position to be settled. Until then, I'm on.

Cbz40
02-16-2005, 06:45 PM
No. I won't be off until he plays and he doesn't show anything. I hope he does because I want our QB position to be settled. Until then, I'm on.


I very muxh agree......this problem has been with us too long. Let's fix it once and for all the correct way and not with a Band Aid.


If Bledsoe is signed, we must assume BP thinks Henson is not ready and needs another year of preparation. Then again he may just be covering his rearend making sure we have a Vet on the team.

As Portland Fanatic said........I would like to see for myself what Henson has.

I guess we will soon see.

gbrittain
02-16-2005, 06:47 PM
The same legitimate draft guides who had Randy Starks and Will Poole going in the Top 15 last February?

Yep, that's cold hard reality. That's why Steven Jackson went in the top 5. The evidence that Henson was going in the 1st round is irrefutable.


Inman, your argument is lacking. You are not taking into account situations. You are saying a 3rd is a 3rd is a 3rd.

Of course, he was obtained with a 3rd, but to equate him with the average 3rd is ludicrous, unless of course you equate Roger Staubauch with a 10th round pick. That is what he was.

Obviously, his situation was different therefore his value dropped, but his potential did not.