Are the Texans REALLY This Good?

[JeffInDC]

27-10 with 7:00 left in the 4th vs. the Colts?l

[SDCowboy85]

Nope, watching it now. The announcers are saying the colts D hasn't showed up.

[rkell87]

how much of a fine do you think cbs is getting for the "**** you mother ****er"s that just came through on the audio lol

[SDCowboy85]

how much of a fine do you think cbs is getting for the "**** you mother ****er"s that just came through on the audio lol

That was awesome. They had to cut to the advertisement he was swearing so violently. :lmao2:

[UnoDallas]

the Colts are MISSING Tony Ugoh

:eek:


an know the Texans won't make the playoffs

[DallasDomination]

Mark it down the texans will sweep the Colts.

[UnoDallas]

Mark it down the texans will sweep the Colts.

yea right got it marked

[GuerillaBlack]

Arian Foster is for real. Has 231 yards (on 31 carries) and 3 TDs this game. Beast.

[DT101]

They got a running game now. And obviously its helped.

Thank god I started Arian Foster today on my fantasy team.

[Signals]

Screw The Houston Toxins! :bang2:

[windward]

Yes they are IMO.

[DallasGirl50]

They're pretty darn good. They can help us this year by beating up on the other NFC East teams. That'll make their fans gag to think of them helping the Cowboys but hopefully they do. And hopefully they lose to the Cowboys of course.

[casmith07]

Colts didn't show up.

[ABQCOWBOY]

The defensive line is dominating. The question with them will be depth. They are probably not far away. I mean, they did all of this without Andre Johnson.

[Aikbach]

hard to say in the emotion of homefield on opening day.

Remember when the Redskins creamed Dallas on opening day in 1993 but finished 4-12 and Dallas won their second straight Super Bowl?

or how about that embarrassing moment in 1997 when Dallas vanquished the Steelers 37-7 on opening day only to collapse to 6-10 by year's end.

Week One a season does not make.

[TheCoolFan]

The Colts are having to pay for not addressing their defensive line every year, particularly DTs. Their front four has always been small yet they ignore it and hope that Peyton can carry them every year while hoping Bob Sanders can be healthy and recapture the magic from the 06 season.

[burmafrd]

They had too much money tied up on Manning and a few others and cannot afford to get any really good FA's, so they have to do it all by the draft and no team is that good.

[UnoDallas]

They had too much money tied up on Manning and a few others and cannot afford to get any really good FA's, so they have to do it all by the draft and no team is that good.

:lmao2: :rolleyes:

[Texas_Pete]

I think if they are healthy they can do damage this year. They have the pieces on both sides of the ball.

However, I think the Colts will come back down to earth this year. I think they are a little overrated.

Can't wait until we play them later this year. The :star:will shine that night!

[CowboysFanSince88]

ESPN"s Tom Jackson picked the Texans to go to the SB this morning on Countdown

[DallasGirl50]

ESPN"s Tom Jackson picked the Texans to go to the SB this morning on Countdown


Based on what? Their stellar playoff history? Oh wait. They've never been to the playoffs.

Seriously that's a little premature. They do have a potent offense though but their DB's got killed today.

I think they're in the same boat we are. They have a really good coordinator playing head coach. They do deserve props though for beating the Colts. They've been their ***** for years.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Based on what? Their stellar playoff history? Oh wait. They've never been to the playoffs.

Seriously that's a little premature. They do have a potent offense though but their DB's got killed today.

I think they're in the same boat we are. They have a really good coordinator playing head coach. They do deserve props though for beating the Colts. They've been their ***** for years.


Based on how they finished last season

[DallasGirl50]

Based on how they finished last season


I guess. Guess that doesn't apply to us. Lots of "experts" have us as a SB frontrunner and we finished the season getting our butts handed to us by the Vikes.

I'm not dogging the Texans. They do have a good team.

[CowboysFanSince88]

I guess. Guess that doesn't apply to us. Lots of "experts" have us as a SB frontrunner and we finished the season getting our butts handed to us by the Vikes.

I'm not dogging the Texans. They do have a good team.


They have a underrated QB

[The Panch]

Texas have played the Colts to a stand still 5 of the last 6 games before tonight. They just constantly choked like they've done the last two years in trying to get to the playoffs.


They havent havent had a losing season since '06. It comes down to their ability to run the ball effectively and the defense's ability to finish games. If they do that, they've definitely get 10-11 wins.

[Roadtrip635]

Their O line just took over the game and the fullback Leach was a flat out stud. For a few moments there, reminded me of the 90's Cowboys running game, we're gonna run it right down your throat and there's nothing you can do about it. Can they continue to do that for an entire season? Probably not, but teams are going to have to respect their running game now which is going to make them much harder to game plan for.

[GuerillaBlack]

http://www.texansbullpen.com/10photogallery/Season/2010-09-12-Colts-Texans/4thQuarter/DSC_0993.JPG

You can drive an 18-wheeler through hole.

[TheDallasDon]

how much of a fine do you think cbs is getting for the "**** you mother ****er"s that just came through on the audio lol


Hahahahha the dude said it twice in a row......................I had 2 do a audio double take and rewined my dvr

[DFWJC]

The Texans looked great down the stretch last year and they contiune to look better this season. They should have beaten the Colts twice last season, so they finally knocked down that door.

[UnoDallas]

now that they got rid Kyle Shannannhannnnnnnnnnnn as OC

[joseephuss]

No, the Texans are really not this good. They are a good team, but I don't expect them to play like they did in their first game. The season opening game sometimes is a poor indicator of how a team will play the entire season. In the Texans case, I think they have been preparing for this game as soon as the schedule was released. They wanted to win it at all costs. They had to win it. I expect them to play well all season, but that doesn't mean they will build such big leads every game and win them in the same fashion they did yesterday.

[DallasGirl50]

They should beat the Redskins handily and then we come up.

If we don't get our offense fixed and fast they'll beat us as well. Although I expect our D to show up. You won't win too many games scoring 1 touchdown.

[CowboysFanSince88]

They should beat the Redskins handily and then we come up.

If we don't get our offense fixed and fast they'll beat us as well. Although I expect our D to show up. You won't win too many games scoring 1 touchdown.

If they beat the Skins and Boys then I will have to say Tom Jackson on ESPN was very accurate with his SB pick

[StylisticS]

If they beat the Skins and Boys then I will have to say Tom Jackson on ESPN was very accurate with his SB pick

He wouldn't be accurate until it actually happens. Winning your first three games does not even mean you're making the playoffs. Not to mention that it means nothing since these are two out of conference games.

[VietCowboy]

He wouldn't be accurate until it actually happens. Winning your first three games does not even mean you're making the playoffs. Not to mention that it means nothing since these are two out of conference games.

yeah, not even your first 6 games like Denver.

[DallasGirl50]

We lost our first game last year and still won the division. I am not giving up hope. It's just very frustrating.

IF the Texans are ever going to make the playoffs this would be the year. I still don't like Kubiak though as HC. Never have. But he's that team's problem. We have major coaching problems of our own.

[GuerillaBlack]

We lost our first game last year and still won the division. I am not giving up hope. It's just very frustrating.

IF the Texans are ever going to make the playoffs this would be the year. I still don't like Kubiak though as HC. Never have. But he's that team's problem. We have major coaching problems of our own.

The difference is that the Texans all have Kubiak's back. Doesn't seem like the Cowboys players have much respect for Wade. Wade needs to stick to being a DC and not a head coach.

[DallasGirl50]

The difference is that the Texans all have Kubiak's back. Doesn't seem like the Cowboys players have much respect for Wade. Wade needs to stick to being a DC and not a head coach.


You couldn't be more wrong. Wade is 100% a player's coach and doesn't throw any of them under the bus when they lose. You're very wrong if you think that. The problem is with the OC and Wade needs to step in when that becomes ineffective. He doesn't. Garrett has complete control over the offense. Wade defense. There are actually 2 head coaches on this team.

[GuerillaBlack]

You couldn't be more wrong. Wade is 100% a player's coach and doesn't throw any of them under the bus when they lose. You're very wrong if you think that. The problem is with the OC and Wade needs to step in when that becomes ineffective. He doesn't. Garrett has complete control over the offense. Wade defense. There are actually 2 head coaches on this team.

So, why don't the players play for Wade then? Why do the players look so inept out there and unmotivated? Kubiak has been called a players coach, too, and his players PLAY for him. Doesn't look like the Cowboys players play for Wade.

[DallasGirl50]

So, why don't the players play for Wade then? Why do the players look so inept out there and unmotivated? Kubiak has been called a players coach, too, and his players PLAY for him. Doesn't look like the Cowboys players play for Wade.


I am sure you're just arguing just to be arguing but I'll play anyway..of course the players play for him. You can say alot of things about Wade and be right but that he's not a player's coach is terribly inaccurate.

And while we're on the subject and a Texans thread and all that didn't Mario Williams get called out by not only his coach but also the Texans owner for taking plays off? So does that mean Kubiak isn't a players coach? You're defending him and making such a big point of Wade isn't this and Wade isn't that and Kubiak is but I am sure I read that they both called Mario out. ANd I guess it worked right? But then again how can that be if Kubiak is such a players coach? Shouldn't Mario want to play hard every play anyway? For his head coach? Is Mario inept? Unmotivated? If he's so coached up and all that why is the Texans owner questioning him? Perhaps sometimes players are just spoiled brats who want a big paycheck regardless of coaching on any team and just sort of skate by. Could that possibly be? Turn it on. Turn it off. It's common in the NFL. Ask Randy Moss.

I think Kubiak and Wade are about even as coaches. Average head coaches. Above average coordinators.

The Cowboys have a great "in your face" Cowher type coach in their ST coach in Joe DeCamillis who broke his neck last season and all the players love and they still managed to look fairly inept against the Skins. Is it because they didn't want to play hard for their coach or maybe they just played poorly that night? I guess you pick which one.

[Chocolate Lab]

So, why don't the players play for Wade then? Why do the players look so inept out there and unmotivated? Kubiak has been called a players coach, too, and his players PLAY for him. Doesn't look like the Cowboys players play for Wade.

LMFAO. Want to compare Wade's record the last three years to Kubiak's?

Besides far more wins, he has two division wins the last three years in the toughest division in football. The lousy Texans have never even made the playoffs.

Or did you forget that already?

[MegaMagick]

Texans are a good team, they always were. However that loss was more on the colts than it was the texans just dominating.

They lose one of the best safeties in the game, that offense looked out of sync with receivers dropping balls and not being on the same page with manning. I think opposing backs will run wild against them for most of the season, which is not good when you have MJD, CJ2k, and now Arian Foster in your division.

[ThreeandOut]

Texans are a good team, they always were. However that loss was more on the colts than it was the texans just dominating.

They lose one of the best safeties in the game, that offense looked out of sync with receivers dropping balls and not being on the same page with manning. I think opposing backs will run wild against them for most of the season, which is not good when you have MJD, CJ2k, and now Arian Foster in your division.

:hammer: Everyone started making the Packers the front runner after they hung 59 points on the Colts in the preseason. Now Houston runs all over Indy this week and suddenly people are appointing them as a front runner in the AFC. The common denominator in both games has been the Colts. You would think that more people would start seeing that maybe the Colts defense just isn't very good.

[DallasGirl50]

Manning can beat anybody. Perhaps when they play in Indy the result will be different. Who knows?

I'm not a Texans fan just because I don't like any Houston teams (ok I pulled for the Astros in the WS and they totally bagged it) but the Texans do have a very nice offense which can score from anywhere. I don't like Kubiak as I said before but they could very well be in the playoffs this year.

I don't expect a Texans fan to give the Cowboys any props for anything anytime. I went to a board once of theirs and they were doing the silly "Tony Homo" and "Tony No Show" and all that crap. Just sling smack. So fine. Just don't come on here and say Kubiak is this great players coach and Wade isn't. That fact is Wade is TOO MUCH a players coach. He's not hard enough on them. That's the problem. And Garrett. But that's for another thread.

[mldardy]

No, the Texans are really not this good. They are a good team, but I don't expect them to play like they did in their first game. The season opening game sometimes is a poor indicator of how a team will play the entire season. In the Texans case, I think they have been preparing for this game as soon as the schedule was released. They wanted to win it at all costs. They had to win it. I expect them to play well all season, but that doesn't mean they will build such big leads every game and win them in the same fashion they did yesterday.
I am kind of line with you joseephus. The Texans seem like a team that will get off to a really hot start this year and then fade big team later in the season. Kind of like the Broncos last year. I just don't think that team will be able to handle success.

[GuerillaBlack]

LMFAO. Want to compare Wade's record the last three years to Kubiak's?

Besides far more wins, he has two division wins the last three years in the toughest division in football. The lousy Texans have never even made the playoffs.

Or did you forget that already?

The Texans overall weren't as talented as the Cowboys when Kubiak took the helm. Last year was the first year that you could say the talent had finally caught up with Dallas, and this year, I'd say the Texans have more talent. Wade had the luck of having Parcells build a good team before he got there. Who did Kubiak have? Dom Capers and Charlie freaking Casserly? Yeah.

[StylisticS]

The Texans overall weren't as talented as the Cowboys when Kubiak took the helm. Last year was the first year that you could say the talent had finally caught up with Dallas, and this year, I'd say the Texans have more talent. Wade had the luck of having Parcells build a good team before he got there. Who did Kubiak have? Dom Capers and Charlie freaking Casserly? Yeah.

You do NOT have more talent than the Cowboys.

[GuerillaBlack]

You do NOT have more talent than the Cowboys.

I think so. The Cowboys' talent is overrated because they are the Cowboys. I'd say Houston is better at RB (Arian Foster is better than all three Cowboys RBs and Houston still has Slaton this year and Ben Tate for next year), TEs (Owen Daniels and Witten is a wash, but Kubiak has drafted TEs out the ***), O-Line (this was quite apparent this past Sunday), and a better front seven (hardly blitzed and were still getting plenty of pressure and hits on Manning...Mario is finally healthy, along with DeMeco and Cushing coming back in three games. Not to mention Amobi Okoye is finally 23 and we signed a nice veteran in Adewale Ogunleye today). Cowboys have the better secondary. Both teams about equal at the QB and WR positions. Not to mention the Texans seem to be well coached this season.

[ScipioCowboy]

Owen Daniels and Witten is a wash
:lmao2:

[GuerillaBlack]

:lmao2:

Prove it otherwise. Daniels' injury last year really hurt him. He was easily the best TE in the league before he went down. He's a first down machine and a serious matchup problem for the defense...like Dallas Clark.

[ScipioCowboy]

Prove it otherwise. Daniels' injury last year really hurt him. He was easily the best TE in the league before he went down. He's a first down machine and a serious matchup problem for the defense...like Dallas Clark.

Burden of proof falls on you since you made the claim.

Have at it!

[ScipioCowboy]

Actually, I have a better idea. I'm going to post two sets of stats, and anyone who is so inclined can tell me which player is better.

Player A
Year -- Rec -- Yards-- Avg --TDs
2006 -- 64 -- 754 -- 11.8 -- 1
2007 -- 96 -- 1,145 -- 11.9 -- 7
2008 -- 81 -- 952 -- 11.8 -- 4
2009 -- 94 -- 1,030 -- 11.0 -- 2

Player B
Year -- Rec -- Yards-- Avg --TDs
2006 -- 34 -- 352 -- 10.4 -- 5
2007 -- 63 -- 768 -- 12.2 -- 3
2008 -- 70 -- 862 -- 12.3 -- 2
2009 -- 40 -- 519 -- 13.0 -- 5

[urface59]

Our front 7 is vastly superior.

[GuerillaBlack]

Our front 7 is vastly superior.

Disagree. Mario Williams is probably the best all around DE in the league, Antonio Smith is pretty good also, Amobi Okoye is finally 23 years old and has grown into his body (drafted when he was 19), and the signing of Adewale Ogunleye (has had at least five sacks every year except for his rookie season) adds great depth. Then, Houston has one of the best LB duos in the league (and THE best stat wise last year) in Cushing and Ryans.

Actually, I have a better idea. I'm going to post two sets of stats, and anyone who is so inclined can tell me which player is better.

Player A
Year -- Rec -- Yards-- Avg --TDs
2006 -- 64 -- 754 -- 11.8 -- 1
2007 -- 96 -- 1,145 -- 11.9 -- 7
2008 -- 81 -- 952 -- 11.8 -- 4
2009 -- 94 -- 1,030 -- 11.0 -- 2

Player B
Year -- Rec -- Yards-- Avg --TDs
2006 -- 34 -- 352 -- 10.4 -- 5
2007 -- 63 -- 768 -- 12.2 -- 3
2008 -- 70 -- 862 -- 12.3 -- 2
2009 -- 40 -- 519 -- 13.0 -- 5

As if this tells the whole story. For example, Owen only played in eight games (and in the eighth game, he played one quarter) in 2009. Second, he had Carr as his QB during his first year. Then, during his second and third, it would switch between Schaub and Sage freaking Rosenfels. Witten has had the luxury of having the same QB from mid-2006 on, and was in a much better offense (until this year). Owen is quicker and more versatile than Witten. Witten is a VERY reliable TE in this league though (and damn tough, too). I wish Owen had not hurt his knee on that turf in Buffalo. He was on to have a 1100 yard and 10 TD season.

[mldardy]

I think so. The Cowboys' talent is overrated because they are the Cowboys. I'd say Houston is better at RB (Arian Foster is better than all three Cowboys RBs and Houston still has Slaton this year and Ben Tate for next year), TEs (Owen Daniels and Witten is a wash, but Kubiak has drafted TEs out the ***), O-Line (this was quite apparent this past Sunday), and a better front seven (hardly blitzed and were still getting plenty of pressure and hits on Manning...Mario is finally healthy, along with DeMeco and Cushing coming back in three games. Not to mention Amobi Okoye is finally 23 and we signed a nice veteran in Adewale Ogunleye today). Cowboys have the better secondary. Both teams about equal at the QB and WR positions. Not to mention the Texans seem to be well coached this season.
Man you are way off. Arian Foster has one great game and he is better than our running backs?:banghead: Foster needs to put together a string of games not like he did on Sundaybecause he isn't going to run for 200 every game but if he shows consistency then I will give him credit. Until then I am not about to take a 1 game wonder over any of our running backs. Owen Daniels and Jason Witten are not even in the same league. Witten is probably bound for Canton and Daniels well let's just say he isn't. Daniels is a nice TE but he is not the best TE in the league. There are about 7-8 TE's that are better than him. If you believe your defense is better than the Cowboys then I don't know what you have been watching. Our defense especially the front 7 is top 5. The Texans maybe top 15 at best. It is amazing how 1 game brings out fans like this. Why don't you wait for the Texans to complete an entire season and MAKE THE PLAYOFFS before touting them as this amazing team with amazing talent.

[ScipioCowboy]

As if this tells the whole story. For example, Owen only played in eight games (and in the eighth game, he played one quarter) in 2009. Second, he had Carr as his QB during his first year. Then, during his second and third, it would switch between Schaub and Sage freaking Rosenfels. Witten has had the luxury of having the same QB from mid-2006 on, and was in a much better offense (until this year). Owen is quicker and more versatile than Witten. Witten is a VERY reliable TE in this league though (and damn tough, too). I wish Owen had not hurt his knee on that turf in Buffalo. He was on to have a 1100 yard and 10 TD season.

So, in essence, your entire argument is predicated on a hypothetical -- what Owen might have accomplished if circumstances were different.

Statistics may not tell the entire story, but they're considerably more reliable than wishful thinking, which is what forms the basis for your assessment.

[urface59]

Disagree. Mario Williams is probably the best all around DE in the league, Antonio Smith is pretty good also, Amobi Okoye is finally 23 years old and has grown into his body (drafted when he was 19), and the signing of Adewale Ogunleye (has had at least five sacks every year except for his rookie season) adds great depth. Then, Houston has one of the best LB duos in the league (and THE best stat wise last year) in Cushing and Ryans.




Since you guys run a 3-4 you gotta compare your DE's to our OLB's. Ware and Spencer owns Williams (who I admit is great) and Smith. We also have the best Nose tackle in the game and 2 of the best run stopping defensive ends. the only position on front 7 you have an advantage on is MLB.

[GuerillaBlack]

Man you are way off. Arian Foster has one great game and he is better than our running backs?:banghead: Foster needs to put together a string of games not like he did on Sundaybecause he isn't going to run for 200 every game but if he shows consistency then I will give him credit. Until then I am not about to take a 1 game wonder over any of our running backs.

Arian Foster has definitely had more than just one good game. And you just know when a RB is legit. Foster is legit. His cuts, speed, power, vision, balance, strength, etc. His cuts he makes in this zone blocking scheme is a thing of beauty.

Owen Daniels and Jason Witten are not even in the same league. Witten is probably bound for Canton and Daniels well let's just say he isn't. Daniels is a nice TE but he is not the best TE in the league. There are about 7-8 TE's that are better than him. If you believe your defense is better than the Cowboys then I don't know what you have been watching. Our defense especially the front 7 is top 5. The Texans maybe top 15 at best. It is amazing how 1 game brings out fans like this. Why don't you wait for the Texans to complete an entire season and MAKE THE PLAYOFFS before touting them as this amazing team with amazing talent.Give Daniels more time. Witten has a three season lead on him. And I said he was playing like the best TE in the league last season before he got hurt. He had shown flashes his previous seasons (especially when Matt Schaub and Daniels were both healthy). Hopefully they both stay healthy for the entire season this year. But, name those TEs that are better than him.

As far as the defense go, when the Texans signed Pollard, they became a top ten rushing defense and good against the pass. They were the best at three and outs, too. This team showed flashes last year. They were just very immature. Hell, the oldest starter on both sides of the ball last season was Matt Schaub, and he was 28. They didn't have the proper mindset, and when stuff went wrong, the fell into a hole and died. Now, they fall down, but get right back up swinging. Started in the New England game last season. Kubiak has coached this team nicely this offseason, too.

So, in essence, your entire argument is predicated on a hypothetical -- what Owen might have accomplished if circumstances were different.

Statistics may not tell the entire story, but they're considerably more reliable than wishful thinking, which is what forms the basis for your assessment.

I see what you're saying, but I'm going by what I see on the field. Daniels is a first down machine. He is a very quick and elusive TE and gives the defense many matchup problems. He can almost be a WR. If he is 100% healthy like he is and can stay healthy this season, he'll strut his stuff with this explosive offense.

Since you guys run a 3-4 you gotta compare your DE's to our OLB's. Ware and Spencer owns Williams (who I admit is great) and Smith. We also have the best Nose tackle in the game and 2 of the best run stopping defensive ends. the only position on front 7 you have an advantage on is MLB.

Houston actually runs a 4-3. Mario Williams is finally healthy this season, and he is stout against the run and pass. Smith has been playing with a ton of passion, also. Amobi Okoye came into camp looking ripped and has grown into his body. If any of you watched the Texans against the Colts, you would see what I mean. Dude was beasting. Warren Sapp called him a younger version of me. As far as linebackers, I'd take Cushing and Ryans over any Cowboys LB duo. Though Ware is listed as an OLB, I can't help but only think of him as a DE playing that OLB position.

[urface59]

Bottom line: If your front seven was better than we probably wouldn't be the one with the number 2 overall defense last year.

[urface59]

Houston actually runs a 4-3.

my bad that's what I meant

[GuerillaBlack]

Bottom line: If your front seven was better than we probably wouldn't be the one with the number 2 overall defense last year.

The first three games really hurt the Texans last season. Like I said, look at the defensive stats when Pollard was signed.

[urface59]

The first three games really hurt the Texans last season. Like I said, look at the defensive stats when Pollard was signed.

Ok then honest question, I have no idea how to go about figuring this out but where would your defense have ranked last year not counting weeks 1-3?

[GuerillaBlack]

Discounting the first three games, Houston had a top ten defense. Counting the first three, they still had a top 15 defense, after being the in the low 20s before Week 4. That should tell you something.

[Go Big D!]

After all these years of suckage and drafting near the top of the draft they better be starting to field a real team.

[GuerillaBlack]

After all these years of suckage and drafting near the top of the draft they better be starting to field a real team.

That's usually what happens.

[DallasGirl50]

This IF game is funny. Guess what? All the games count now and all the stats count as well. IF you exclude the first three games last year the Texans had a great defense? You can't exclude the first games.

I want to play though. IF the Cowboys had won in Minny they would have gone to the Super Bowl last year.

IF Tony hadn't mishandled that snap against Seattle the Cowboys win a playoff game that year.

IF I was 20, a size zero and looked like Cindy Crawford I'd be the newest hot supermodel.

See how it works? Point is it doesn't.

[GuerillaBlack]

This IF game is funny. Guess what? All the games count now and all the stats count as well. IF you exclude the first three games last year the Texans had a great defense? You can't exclude the first games.

I want to play though. IF the Cowboys had won in Minny they would have gone to the Super Bowl last year.

IF Tony hadn't mishandled that snap against Seattle the Cowboys win a playoff game that year.

IF I was 20, a size zero and looked like Cindy Crawford I'd be the newest hot supermodel.

See how it works? Point is it doesn't.

Completely different than what I'm talking about. When Houston added a vocal leader/hard hitter to the defense, they vastly improved. That didn't happen until after Week 3 (when we signed Pollard). You're saying "if Tony hadn't fumbled the snap, we would have won" or "if the Cowboys had beat Minnesota, they would have played against New Orleans for the NFC Championship game". You don't see the difference between the examples you gave and the one I gave?

[DallasGirl50]

Completely different than what I'm talking about. When Houston added a vocal leader/hard hitter to the defense, they vastly improved. That didn't happen until after Week 3 (when we signed Pollard). You're saying "if Tony hadn't fumbled the snap, we would have won" or "if the Cowboys had beat Minnesota, they would have played against New Orleans for the NFC Championship game". You don't see the difference between the examples you gave and the one I gave?


My point is (and it obviously went right over your head) is the "IF" game is stupid no matter the examples given. IF Daniels hadn't gotten hurt. IF Pollard had been there. IF. IF. IF.

It changes nothing. The Texans are what they were last year. The Cowboys the same.


I was being sillly with my examples. You can't take something that happened and say well IF this had happened we would have been better. You don't know that.

I'm not a Texans fan. They have a good team. Good luck with that.

[GuerillaBlack]

My point is (and it obviously went right over your head) is the "IF" game is stupid no matter the examples given. IF Daniels hadn't gotten hurt. IF Pollard had been there. IF. IF. IF.

It changes nothing. The Texans are what they were last year. The Cowboys the same.


I was being sillly with my examples. You can't take something that happened and say well IF this had happened we would have been better. You don't know that.

I'm not a Texans fan. They have a good team. Good luck with that.

But how am I playing the "IF" game with the defense? Pollard WAS signed after Week 3 and the defense DID become a top ten defense because of it.

[Go Big D!]

That's usually what happens.

Really? :laugh2:

[b0ng]

To answer the question posed in the title: Maybe!

[Texas_Pete]

I'm glad they beat the Foreskins.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Schuab, Foster, and Johnson is the 2010 version of

Joe Montana, Roger Craig, and Jerry Rice