Ok, I can not stand it anymore - Henson

[Champsheart]

Everytime I open a thread I keep reading we have to find out about Henson.

First let me clearly state, I have nothing against Henson, and I am praying he is the QB of the future, because if he is not then we are really behind the 8 ball.

Now here is what gets me -
Nobody on this board has any slightest clue if Henson is ready, or will be ready to see the field. Nobody could, because we have no evidence at all worth anything. And understand I did not say play well, I said see the field.

Answer me this,
1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on.....

These are the things that allow a QB to be successful, and it is a lot harder than it sounds. Otherwise every other strong armed, and accurate QB bust would have had success.

Where is Henson with these things?
Answer - You have no idea.

Now in no way should anyone expect him to be a vet, or perfect with these things, BUT, and please realize the BUT,
He has to be at some level in these areas to even give him any chance of any success.
If he is still struggling mightly in these areas, then he has no chance, and has no business on the field.

I know, I know, many will just say throw him out there and find out, or you can not find out without throwing him out there. True, but not true. He has to have some level of understanding first.

And in all fairness to Henson, he just may still be having a lot of trouble in these areas. He has played very little football, and not for a few years now. He is as green as it gets. We all knew this could take some time.

It just erks me because I hear so much that we have to find out about Henson now.
Well did you ever think he just may not be ready for you to find out yet. And yes if he is still behind the curve in these areas you can damage the kid.

Henson is a physically talented QB, that is litterally as green as it gets when we got him.

Are you really ready to just hand him the keys with no other QB who can play on the roster?

[Nors]

Everytime I open a thread I keep reading we have to find out about Henson.

First let me clearly state, I have nothing against Henson, and I am praying he is the QB of the future, because if he is not then we are really behind the 8 ball.

Now here is what gets me -
Nobody on this board has any slightest clue if Henson is ready, or will be ready to see the field. Nobody could, because we have no evidence at all worth anything. And understand I did not say play well, I said see the field.

Answer me this,
1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on.....

These are the things that allow a QB to be successful, and it is a lot harder than it sounds. Otherwise every other strong armed, and accurate QB bust would have had success.

Where is Henson with these things?
Answer - You have no idea.

Now in no way should anyone expect him to be a vet, or perfect with these things, BUT, and please realize the BUT,
He has to be at some level in these areas to even give him any chance of any success.
If he is still struggling mightly in these areas, then he has no chance, and has no business on the field.

I know, I know, many will just say throw him out there and find out, or you can not find out without throwing him out there. True, but not true. He has to have some level of understanding first.

And in all fairness to Henson, he just may still be having a lot of trouble in these areas. He has played very little football, and not for a few years now. He is as green as it gets. We all knew this could take some time.

It just erks me because I hear so much that we have to find out about Henson now.
Well did you ever think he just may not be ready for you to find out yet. And yes if he is still behind the curve in these areas you can damage the kid.

Henson is a physically talented QB, that is litterally as green as it gets when we got him.

Are you really ready to just hand him the keys with no other QB who can play on the roster?

What Parcells is doing is to bring HENSON ALONG PROPERLY.
Drew set himself back a world walking away from football for 3 years.

He walked into Dallas like a Freshman QB out of college. If Drew makes it in this league he will thank Parcells someday. Parcells has shown he'll roll a rookie out if ready in the past.

[diehard2294]

You can only find out what he can do by getting him in game situations. Not holding a clipboard on sundays and running the scout team. I want him to be the real deal,and you are right we dont know,but we also wont ever know if he rots on the bench. I dont mind a Vet backup if he falls on his face,but the bottom line is he will have growing pains,every young QB will.
But I dont want to bring in some vet that's only upside to VT is his age,and have this furthur Hensons ability to develop, or better yet hurt his ego. We all know Bp says this was a concern. If he played last year in the blowouts,and some other spot duty,how much worse off would this team have been. The only reason BP would grasp for this is because he has no patience for young QB who may hurt his chances of ruing his coaching record or credability.
It's time to see what Henson can do,bring in a Vet as a backup,tell the kid it's his job to lose,and if it dont work out at least you can move forward as a franchise.

[gbrittain]

Everytime I open a thread I keep reading we have to find out about Henson.

First let me clearly state, I have nothing against Henson, and I am praying he is the QB of the future, because if he is not then we are really behind the 8 ball.

Now here is what gets me -
Nobody on this board has any slightest clue if Henson is ready, or will be ready to see the field. Nobody could, because we have no evidence at all worth anything. And understand I did not say play well, I said see the field.

Answer me this,
1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on.....

These are the things that allow a QB to be successful, and it is a lot harder than it sounds. Otherwise every other strong armed, and accurate QB bust would have had success.

Where is Henson with these things?
Answer - You have no idea.

Now in no way should anyone expect him to be a vet, or perfect with these things, BUT, and please realize the BUT,
He has to be at some level in these areas to even give him any chance of any success.
If he is still struggling mightly in these areas, then he has no chance, and has no business on the field.

I know, I know, many will just say throw him out there and find out, or you can not find out without throwing him out there. True, but not true. He has to have some level of understanding first.

And in all fairness to Henson, he just may still be having a lot of trouble in these areas. He has played very little football, and not for a few years now. He is as green as it gets. We all knew this could take some time.

It just erks me because I hear so much that we have to find out about Henson now.
Well did you ever think he just may not be ready for you to find out yet. And yes if he is still behind the curve in these areas you can damage the kid.

Henson is a physically talented QB, that is litterally as green as it gets when we got him.

Are you really ready to just hand him the keys with no other QB who can play on the roster?

As to your questions 1-9, can you answer them yes or no? I dont know that he can or can not.

You have to take Henson in context. With no context, I agree it makes no sense to play an unproven player.

If you take it in context you would see that last year we were a sorry team investing valuable playing time into a 42 year old.

I do not think we should invest any more time into a 42 year old or 32 year old. Lets take our lumps now, not when we are ready to compete for a Superbowl.

I certainly do not see any point in Vinny taking another snap as a Dallas Cowboy.

Why is Buffalo parting with Bledsoe to play an unproven rookie?

If Vinny T, Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, and Drew Bledsoe are the alternatives to Henson...I will take Henson in a heart beat.

[Nors]

You can only find out what he can do by getting him in game situations. Not holding a clipboard on sundays and running the scout team. I want him to be the real deal,and you are right we dont know,but we also wont ever know if he rots on the bench. I dont mind a Vet backup if he falls on his face,but the bottom line is he will have growing pains,every young QB will.
But I dont want to bring in some vet that's only upside to VT is his age,and have this furthur Hensons ability to develop, or better yet hurt his ego. We all know Bp says this was a concern. If he played last year in the blowouts,and some other spot duty,how much worse off would this team have been. The only reason BP would grasp for this is because he has no patience for young QB who may hurt his chances of ruing his coaching record or credability.
It's time to see what Henson can do,bring in a Vet as a backup,tell the kid it's his job to lose,and if it dont work out at least you can move forward as a franchise.

reread the post - Parcells damn well knows. Kid started ONLY 8 college games dating back to 1998. How the heck do you expect him to walk off the street having not played football in 3 years and realistically play at the NFL level?

Henson does not deserve to be given anything yet.

[Portland Fanatic]

Everytime I open a thread I keep reading we have to find out about Henson.

First let me clearly state, I have nothing against Henson, and I am praying he is the QB of the future, because if he is not then we are really behind the 8 ball.

Now here is what gets me -
Nobody on this board has any slightest clue if Henson is ready, or will be ready to see the field. Nobody could, because we have no evidence at all worth anything. And understand I did not say play well, I said see the field.

Answer me this,
1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on.....

These are the things that allow a QB to be successful, and it is a lot harder than it sounds. Otherwise every other strong armed, and accurate QB bust would have had success.

Where is Henson with these things?
Answer - You have no idea.

Now in no way should anyone expect him to be a vet, or perfect with these things, BUT, and please realize the BUT,
He has to be at some level in these areas to even give him any chance of any success.
If he is still struggling mightly in these areas, then he has no chance, and has no business on the field.

I know, I know, many will just say throw him out there and find out, or you can not find out without throwing him out there. True, but not true. He has to have some level of understanding first.

And in all fairness to Henson, he just may still be having a lot of trouble in these areas. He has played very little football, and not for a few years now. He is as green as it gets. We all knew this could take some time.

It just erks me because I hear so much that we have to find out about Henson now.
Well did you ever think he just may not be ready for you to find out yet. And yes if he is still behind the curve in these areas you can damage the kid.

Henson is a physically talented QB, that is litterally as green as it gets when we got him.

Are you really ready to just hand him the keys with no other QB who can play on the roster?
All of your questions are valid...now as for the rest of your comments...the reverse question...how do you know with a full season and two full off-seasons he's not ready to take the helm in game one?

As for backup...of course we need a vet backup...bring back Vinny.

[Champsheart]

You can only find out what he can do by getting him in game situations.

You are not getting it. Yes, there is some truth to that, BUT
Henson still has to have some understanding of all the things I listed to even get in a game situation.

OTHERWISE HE HAS NO CHANCE! PERIOD!

Can you tell me he has that understanding?
At least enough to get on the field.

And yes he can get a greater level of understanding without being on the field.

For all you know you may be handing a computer to a Caveman, but on a much greater level.

[diehard2294]

reread the post - Parcells damn well knows. Kid started ONLY 8 college games dating back to 1998. How the heck do you expect him to walk off the street having not played football in 3 years and realistically play at the NFL level?

Henson does not deserve to be given anything yet.you my friend are the blinded one,everyone wants to use any crutch they can to bring logic to this Henson situation,you want him to be given the oppurtunitiy to play after sitting on the pine for say 3 maybe 4 years. That makes all the sense in the world,he should be ready to step in and succeed after that time of watching things. That's exactly how you guage the speed of the game and get timing down right.

:tunafan:

[Portland Fanatic]

You are not getting it. Yes, there is some truth to that, BUT
Henson still has to have some understanding of all the things I listed to even get in a game situation.

OTHERWISE HE HAS NO CHANCE! PERIOD!

Can you tell me he has that understanding?
At least enough to get on the field.

And yes he can get a greater level of understanding without being on the field.

For all you know you may be handing a computer to a Caveman, but on a much greater level.
It is a known fact that Henson is a bright kid...he has had two FULL off-season, and now one full season. He played in professional sports already for the previous years...mentally he is more mature then the majority senior QB's coming out of college. At this point he needs playing time...don't give me he's does not have an understanding of the program now...as for ALL the things listed...what stud QB coming out of college can show you that before taking the field???

[Champsheart]

All of your questions are valid...now as for the rest of your comments...the reverse question...how do you know with a full season and two full off-seasons he's not ready to take the helm in game one?


I don't know.
And I am not saying he does not have the understanding.
I have no idea, nor does anybody else.

That is why I find it so hard to take all this we have to find out about Henson NOW.

When people say that, they have no evidence of what they are really saying, because they have no idea where he is at.

Hey, if he is at a level in those areas to be ready to see the field, I am all for it. No Problem here.

But I am not going to assume he is, and bank all of my opinions on it.

[Champsheart]

It is a known fact that Henson is a bright kid...he has had two FULL off-season, and now one full season. He played in professional sports already for the previous years...mentally he is more mature then the majority senior QB's coming out of college. At this point he needs playing time...don't give me he's does not have an understanding of the program now...as for ALL the things listed...what stud QB coming out of college can show you that before taking the field???

You are not getting what I am saying.

[diehard2294]

You are not getting it. Yes, there is some truth to that, BUT
Henson still has to have some understanding of all the things I listed to even get in a game situation.

OTHERWISE HE HAS NO CHANCE! PERIOD!

Can you tell me he has that understanding?
At least enough to get on the field.

And yes he can get a greater level of understanding without being on the field.

For all you know you may be handing a computer to a Caveman, but on a much greater level.your wrong I do get it, to every point you make you can easily have a argument the other way. He's not some dope,true if he cant read the coverage,check-offs etc. then it's a problem that time will fix or you will know he's not the right guy.

[Portland Fanatic]

I don't know.
And I am not saying he does not have the understanding.
I have no idea, nor does anybody else.

That is why I find it so hard to take all this we have to find out about Henson NOW.

When people say that, they have no evidence of what they are really saying, because they have no idea where he is at.

Hey, if he is at a level in those areas to be ready to see the field, I am all for it. No Problem here.

But I am not going to assume he is, and bank all of my opinions on it.
If I knew there would be a fair competition with Bledsoe and Henson....hey...bring it on! There would not be...we all know that. All being equal you go with youth.

[Dale]

Everytime I open a thread I keep reading we have to find out about Henson.

First let me clearly state, I have nothing against Henson, and I am praying he is the QB of the future, because if he is not then we are really behind the 8 ball.

Now here is what gets me -
Nobody on this board has any slightest clue if Henson is ready, or will be ready to see the field. Nobody could, because we have no evidence at all worth anything. And understand I did not say play well, I said see the field.

Answer me this,
1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on.....

These are the things that allow a QB to be successful, and it is a lot harder than it sounds. Otherwise every other strong armed, and accurate QB bust would have had success.

Where is Henson with these things?
Answer - You have no idea.

Now in no way should anyone expect him to be a vet, or perfect with these things, BUT, and please realize the BUT,
He has to be at some level in these areas to even give him any chance of any success.
If he is still struggling mightly in these areas, then he has no chance, and has no business on the field.

I know, I know, many will just say throw him out there and find out, or you can not find out without throwing him out there. True, but not true. He has to have some level of understanding first.

And in all fairness to Henson, he just may still be having a lot of trouble in these areas. He has played very little football, and not for a few years now. He is as green as it gets. We all knew this could take some time.

It just erks me because I hear so much that we have to find out about Henson now.
Well did you ever think he just may not be ready for you to find out yet. And yes if he is still behind the curve in these areas you can damage the kid.

Henson is a physically talented QB, that is litterally as green as it gets when we got him.

Are you really ready to just hand him the keys with no other QB who can play on the roster?

I agree completely, Champsheart. I'm a big Henson fan (see my avatar), and think if given enough developmental time, he could be a good one. But realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if he's worse than just about every backup at this point. I just don't think it's fair to throw him out there against high quality defenses night in, and night out with the expectation of him performing well.

Now I guess some might say the only way for him to learn is to get playing time. Perhaps, but at some point you must demonstrate enough ability in practice before getting that luxury to play. I doubt Henson has demonstrated he's prepared to the point of Parcells feeling comfortable with him.

I know the counter argument is that guys like Palmer and Manning were thrown in there eventually. Again, true, but I'd venture to guess they were not only more prepared, but they were also FORCED into the lineups due to their contracts. How can you sit a $40+ million player for two or three years? It can't be done.

Henson is making peanuts, with the only way his contract going up is by playing. I don't think Parcells will ever rush him onto the field because, if he does, it'll likely mean Parcells will never again see a winning season in his career.

I think his plan is to develop Henson for the future on the bench, while winning with a veteran, and getting enough young talent (Witten, Jones...perhaps a WR this year) in place offensively to give Henson a good cast when he does take over the reigns after Parcells retires.

Just my two cents.

[Nors]

As to your questions 1-9, can you answer them yes or no? I dont know that he can or can not.

You have to take Henson in context. With no context, I agree it makes no sense to play an unproven player.

If you take it in context you would see that last year we were a sorry team investing valuable playing time into a 42 year old.

I do not think we should invest any more time into a 42 year old or 32 year old. Lets take our lumps now, not when we are ready to compete for a Superbowl.

I certainly do not see any point in Vinny taking another snap as a Dallas Cowboy.

Why is Buffalo parting with Bledsoe to play an unproven rookie?

If Vinny T, Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, and Drew Bledsoe are the alternatives to Henson...I will take Henson in a heart beat.


This will be Losmans second seson and Buffalo mortgaged their future to draft him. Thats why he's playing. Recipe for disaster! Too bad they didn't play him all year as a Rookie..... With the first pick in the 2005 draft the Cowboys select.....

Instead Drew won 9 and foiled our pick.

[Nors]

you my friend are the blinded one,everyone wants to use any crutch they can to bring logic to this Henson situation,you want him to be given the oppurtunitiy to play after sitting on the pine for say 3 maybe 4 years. That makes all the sense in the world,he should be ready to step in and succeed after that time of watching things. That's exactly how you guage the speed of the game and get timing down right.

:tunafan:

sitting on the Pine? Baseball bench not throwing a footbal for 3 or 4 years is a BIG difference!

[Champsheart]

If I knew there would be a fair competition with Bledsoe and Henson....hey...bring it on! There would not be...we all know that. All being equal you go with youth.

No, I do not know that.
I know BP wants to win. I think he will play the best QB.

Could I be wrong, sure.
Do I know you are right, definetly not.

But it sure seems silly to me to not want any other options at QB, especailly since you have no idea if Henson can even function because there would not be a fair competition.

So lets just put all our eggs in Henson's basket. And if he is not ready, and needs more time, or gets injured, then what?

[diehard2294]

sitting on the Pine? Baseball bench not throwing a footbal for 3 or 4 years is a BIG difference!yeah must be hell learning how to throw a football all over again right Nors
:rolleyes:

[Cbz40]

Everytime I open a thread I keep reading we have to find out about Henson.

First let me clearly state, I have nothing against Henson, and I am praying he is the QB of the future, because if he is not then we are really behind the 8 ball.

Now here is what gets me -
Nobody on this board has any slightest clue if Henson is ready, or will be ready to see the field. Nobody could, because we have no evidence at all worth anything. And understand I did not say play well, I said see the field.

Answer me this,
1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on.....

These are the things that allow a QB to be successful, and it is a lot harder than it sounds. Otherwise every other strong armed, and accurate QB bust would have had success.

Where is Henson with these things?
Answer - You have no idea.

Now in no way should anyone expect him to be a vet, or perfect with these things, BUT, and please realize the BUT,
He has to be at some level in these areas to even give him any chance of any success.
If he is still struggling mightly in these areas, then he has no chance, and has no business on the field.

I know, I know, many will just say throw him out there and find out, or you can not find out without throwing him out there. True, but not true. He has to have some level of understanding first.

And in all fairness to Henson, he just may still be having a lot of trouble in these areas. He has played very little football, and not for a few years now. He is as green as it gets. We all knew this could take some time.

It just erks me because I hear so much that we have to find out about Henson now.
Well did you ever think he just may not be ready for you to find out yet. And yes if he is still behind the curve in these areas you can damage the kid.

Henson is a physically talented QB, that is litterally as green as it gets when we got him.

Are you really ready to just hand him the keys with no other QB who can play on the roster?


First let me begin by saying, Excellent Post.

"1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on....."

These are questions that one has to ank about any young QB.


Champsheart this is the problem I have with our waiting to start Henson.

1. Philly has McFlabb...starting his what? 6th or 7th year.

2. Washington...Ramsey who will be starting his 4th year.

3. New York......Manning has I believe 8 starts in the NFL.

4. Dallas....Henson 2 1/2 Quarters.

As you can see every team in our division has a young vet QB or in Mannings' case a years head start on Henson and his development. The longer we wait to develop DH the further we fall behind the rest of the division.

The Cowboys counter with a Vinny or a Bledsoe. QB's that have seen their best days pass them by. I understand BP wants to win now, fine, but going 8/8 ( and I'm being optomistic)in 2005 does absolutely 0 in preparing a young QB for 2006, 2007 etc.

It doesn't matter if we start Henson this year or in 2006 he will still have to endure the learning experience and the pain of a 1st year starter.

Why delay.....build this team for the future.

[Waffle]

First let me begin by saying, Excellent Post.

"1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on....."

These are questions that one has to ank about any young QB.


Champsheart this is the problem I have with our waiting to start Henson.

1. Philly has McFlabb...starting his what? 6th or 7th year.

2. Washington...Ramsey who will be starting his 4th year.

3. New York......Manning has I believe 8 starts in the NFL.

4. Dallas....Henson 2 1/2 Quarters.

As you can see every team in our division has a young vet QB or in Mannings' case a years head start on Henson and his development. The longer we wait to develop DH the further we fall behind the rest of the division.

The Cowboys counter with a Vinny or a Bledsoe. QB's that have seen their best days pass them by. I understand BP wants to win now, fine, but going 8/8 ( and I'm being optomistic)in 2005 does absolutely 0 in preparing a young QB for 2006, 2007 etc.

It doesn't matter if we start Henson this year or in 2006 he will still have to endure the learning experience and the pain of a 1st year starter.

Why delay.....build this team for the future.
What the hell do you know about Cowboy's football you "Johnny Come Lately"!!! :D

[Cbz40]

What the hell do you know about Cowboy's football you "Johnny Come Lately"!!! :D


Absolutely nothing LOL...........Just thought I would ramble a little and prove you're right. :D

[Champsheart]

First let me begin by saying, Excellent Post.

"1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on....."

These are questions that one has to ank about any young QB.


Champsheart this is the problem I have with our waiting to start Henson.

1. Philly has McFlabb...starting his what? 6th or 7th year.

2. Washington...Ramsey who will be starting his 4th year.

3. New York......Manning has I believe 8 starts in the NFL.

4. Dallas....Henson 2 1/2 Quarters.

As you can see every team in our division has a young vet QB or in Mannings' case a years head start on Henson and his development. The longer we wait to develop DH the further we fall behind the rest of the division.

The Cowboys counter with a Vinny or a Bledsoe. QB's that have seen their best days pass them by. I understand BP wants to win now, fine, but going 8/8 ( and I'm being optomistic)in 2005 does absolutely 0 in preparing a young QB for 2006, 2007 etc.

It doesn't matter if we start Henson this year or in 2006 he will still have to endure the learning experience and the pain of a 1st year starter.

Why delay.....build this team for the future.

CBZ, I see exactly what you are saying, and really I agree with it.
No matter what he is going to have growing pains, but they need to be effective pains, one's that he will benefit from.

I do not know what it is, but there has to be some level of understanding in the areas mentioned. There just has to be, to even have a chance to start the learning pains you are talking about.

The question is does he have that level?
None of us know, but many are ready to just assume he does.

We want Henson now, that is the perfect scenario. If he has enough understanding to START the process on the field, then lets go with it, BUT

In all fairness to Henson, and as little football he has played, he may just not be there yet.

And if he is not and we just throw him in, we just may be looking for another QB in a couple years because we did not develop him correctly, AND GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO BE SUCCESSFULL.

People really take that for granted and do not think that exists, but it is very important.

That is what I do for a living. I develop people in their rolls, and I can say you really can set someone up for failure if you do not give them the tools they need for success, even before you throw them out there.

It is very possible that is where we are with Henson.

I have no problem waiting another year or two if that is what he needs to develop properly, the important thing is it pays off in the end.

[Waffle]

Absolutely nothing LOL...........Just thought I would ramble a little and prove you're right. :D
Just giving you a hard time. :)

Actually, I figured you might be the only one here to get my "Danny Villanueva" joke over in the thread ("Forgotton in the Bledsoe Madness")about Drew B. wearing #11 for the Cowboys (if signed) and that perhaps being an insult to Danny White.

[Fan Since 77]

All valid points champsheart, and I guess my answer to you is this.

I, and many other Cowboys fans, are fully prepared to watch a season of futility in the hopes of discovering if Henson is, or is not, going to be the answer, the hope, and the future at quarterback for this organization. If not, we can simply use our high draft pick to draft a quarterback that has a higher percentage of being that guy.

Having a great season with a quarterback who is on the decline doesn't give me much hope. Having a horrible season with a quarterback on the decline spirals me into depression(see last year).

Ask yourself this. What are the chances we will win the superbowl with Bledsoe at quarterback? If your answer is realisitc, it would be too low to even try. Why bring in Bledsoe just so we can get to the playoffs and stunt the natural development of the team because our draft picks will be lower?

Henson may not be ready to compete with all of the reasons you listed. But you know what? He will definately learn faster by doing rather than sitting. That's a fact jack!

[Cbz40]

Just giving you a hard time. :)

Actually, I figured you might be the only one here to get my "Danny Villanueva" joke over in the thread ("Forgotton in the Bledsoe Madness")about Drew B. wearing #11 for the Cowboys (if signed) and that perhaps being an insult to Danny White.


Haven't read it yet.....I'll make sure I do.

Keep giving me a hard Time...I can take it..........and I welcome it. Good Fun.

Alot of good people here.......including those I disagreee with. :D

[Big D #1]

Everytime I open a thread I keep reading we have to find out about Henson.

First let me clearly state, I have nothing against Henson, and I am praying he is the QB of the future, because if he is not then we are really behind the 8 ball.

Now here is what gets me -
Nobody on this board has any slightest clue if Henson is ready, or will be ready to see the field. Nobody could, because we have no evidence at all worth anything. And understand I did not say play well, I said see the field.

Answer me this,
1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on.....

These are the things that allow a QB to be successful, and it is a lot harder than it sounds. Otherwise every other strong armed, and accurate QB bust would have had success.

Where is Henson with these things?
Answer - You have no idea.

Now in no way should anyone expect him to be a vet, or perfect with these things, BUT, and please realize the BUT,
He has to be at some level in these areas to even give him any chance of any success.
If he is still struggling mightly in these areas, then he has no chance, and has no business on the field.

I know, I know, many will just say throw him out there and find out, or you can not find out without throwing him out there. True, but not true. He has to have some level of understanding first.

And in all fairness to Henson, he just may still be having a lot of trouble in these areas. He has played very little football, and not for a few years now. He is as green as it gets. We all knew this could take some time.

It just erks me because I hear so much that we have to find out about Henson now.
Well did you ever think he just may not be ready for you to find out yet. And yes if he is still behind the curve in these areas you can damage the kid.

Henson is a physically talented QB, that is litterally as green as it gets when we got him.

Are you really ready to just hand him the keys with no other QB who can play on the roster?----I saw Drew play at Michigan in a rotating system with Tom Brady---This is the NFL--everyone is big and has speed.--You may outclass them in college--not here---If Drew is our future--we need to protect him until he is ready to play. If he plays with us like he did in college than he is our future---But we need to win and move this team forward with a veteran QB--that can help Drew and will pay back-up when ask to do so.----Remember Steve Buerlin quality back-up to Troy and we never missed a beat---Thats what we need--Quality goes a long way in building a team--we need all around good players not just a hand full of draft picks---Training and keeping good quality players as back up use to be the model we set for the entire NFL for years and years--need to get back to that---Bill understands you must build a team to make several super bowl runs not one--We use too be in the playoffs every year---those were the days I hope I see again

[Champsheart]

All valid points champsheart, and I guess my answer to you is this.

I, and many other Cowboys fans, are fully prepared to watch a season of futility in the hopes of discovering if Henson is, or is not, going to be the answer, the hope, and the future at quarterback for this organization. If not, we can simply use our high draft pick to draft a quarterback that has a higher percentage of being that guy.

Having a great season with a quarterback who is on the decline doesn't give me much hope. Having a horrible season with a quarterback on the decline spirals me into depression(see last year).

Ask yourself this. What are the chances we will win the superbowl with Bledsoe at quarterback? If your answer is realisitc, it would be too low to even try. Why bring in Bledsoe just so we can get to the playoffs and stunt the natural development of the team because our draft picks will be lower?

Henson may not be ready to compete with all of the reasons you listed. But you know what? He will definately learn faster by doing rather than sitting. That's a fact jack!

I understand what you are saying, and I feel you.
But for me this has nothing to do with Bledsoe, or anyone else.

To me this has to do Henson, and handling him correctly.
Being fair to him, and giving him the chance to be successfull.

I thought very seriously when we signed him it could take 2 or 3 years for him to see the field. I was fine with that.
I am not so concerned with next year, and he has to play next year.

I am concerned that we have the most physically talented QB since Aikman, and I believe he has potential, and I want to handle him the way that is best for HIM. I want to give him the best possible chance to succees, and that just may not be to throw him out there right now.

Honestly, I have no idea, because like I said none of us know where his understanding is.

All I care about is developing him correctly, not having to find out right now!

[scottsp]

Everytime I open a thread I keep reading we have to find out about Henson.

First let me clearly state, I have nothing against Henson, and I am praying he is the QB of the future, because if he is not then we are really behind the 8 ball.

Now here is what gets me -
Nobody on this board has any slightest clue if Henson is ready, or will be ready to see the field. Nobody could, because we have no evidence at all worth anything. And understand I did not say play well, I said see the field.

Answer me this,
1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on.....

These are the things that allow a QB to be successful, and it is a lot harder than it sounds. Otherwise every other strong armed, and accurate QB bust would have had success.

Where is Henson with these things?
Answer - You have no idea.

Now in no way should anyone expect him to be a vet, or perfect with these things, BUT, and please realize the BUT,
He has to be at some level in these areas to even give him any chance of any success.
If he is still struggling mightly in these areas, then he has no chance, and has no business on the field.

I know, I know, many will just say throw him out there and find out, or you can not find out without throwing him out there. True, but not true. He has to have some level of understanding first.

And in all fairness to Henson, he just may still be having a lot of trouble in these areas. He has played very little football, and not for a few years now. He is as green as it gets. We all knew this could take some time.

It just erks me because I hear so much that we have to find out about Henson now.
Well did you ever think he just may not be ready for you to find out yet. And yes if he is still behind the curve in these areas you can damage the kid.

Henson is a physically talented QB, that is litterally as green as it gets when we got him.

Are you really ready to just hand him the keys with no other QB who can play on the roster?

Exactly. I don't know for sure. No one here does. Only if I were on the inside looking out at VR, I might have a clearer understanding of what's going on. For that reason, I can't discount the chance Henson might be ready to challenge for the starting spot.

Note that I didn't say start outright. Just given the opportunity to challenge.

Until someone out there states otherwise, I will continue with that line of thinking intact. That said, I don't know who else is brought in. Couldn't tell you if Bledsoe will be signed or if they look another way. There is so much we do not know regarding what exactly will be available.

Now we can throw stuff against the wall and guess all day. We have plenty here who do nothing but that. These Peter Vescey types love to conjure stuff out of thin air, in hopes that perhaps one out of every hundred items they utter actually comes to pass. Then they pounce as if to say, "Look at me! Told ya so."

We all know who I am referencing, don't we?

As for being irked, you'll get over it. We all will. Wish I had more answers for you, sir.

[Fan Since 77]

I understand what you are saying, and I feel you.
But for me this has nothing to do with Bledsoe, or anyone else.

To me this has to do Henson, and handling him correctly.
Being fair to him, and giving him the chance to be successfull.

I thought very seriously when we signed him it could take 2 or 3 years for him to see the field. I was fine with that.
I am not so concerned with next year, and he has to play next year.

I am concerned that we have the most physically talented QB since Aikman, and I believe he has potential, and I want to handle him the way that is best for HIM. I want to give him the best possible chance to succees, and that just may not be to throw him out there right now.

Honestly, I have no idea, because like I said none of us know where his understanding is.

All I care about is developing him correctly, not having to find out right now!

Look, Drew is a big boy. He doesn't need to be handled with kid gloves. If Parcels sat down with him and said

"Here's the deal. You're young, you have no experience, and you don't grasp the full game yet. I know it. You know it. But kid, I see potential in you, and I'm going to put you out there so you can learn. It won't be easy. You'll get frustrated. You'll have bad games But, it's time to grow up. You got a stud running back who will help you out. You got a stud tight end who will help you out. And with free agency we're going to get you an offensive line. How do you feel about this son?"

Parcels having faith in Henson would give him the confidence. Making sure he doesn't have high expectations would take the pressure off. Then the on field training could begin! :D

[Big D #1]

This will be Losmans second seson and Buffalo mortgaged their future to draft him. Thats why he's playing. Recipe for disaster! Too bad they didn't play him all year as a Rookie..... With the first pick in the 2005 draft the Cowboys select.....

Instead Drew won 9 and foiled our pick.------I am and have been a big time cowboys fan for many many years---I remember when Dandy Don---Roger Staubach--Randy White--Craig Morton--Troy Aikman and all the rest played at Big D---one time or another---Relating this history to Drew Henson is important---Each of the QBs that went on to be stars at Dallas had bench and learning time--I think Roger had four yrs. to learn playbook while in the Navy. I agree with the term caution being utilized to advance Drews career--not down the road of destruction and maybe career ending injury---All of the Cowboys past starting QBs, had quality veterans playing ahead of them as trainers or mentors--Should not Drew have this same opportunity to learn,--and only force him into action when the starter goes down or score is lope-sided. Cowboys can put some points up on the scoreboard--stopping the other team is our downfall--I remember Troy--Randy and Roger all had their ups and downs---they worked it out---Drew will also-----I am like a couple of fans on this web site--I see what the Cowboys has in Drew Henson-----Quote ME, and remember this statement--Drew is very young--has a cannon for a arm---quick--tall--about 230lbs--ideal NFL QB.---and most of all he is better than Tom Brady--at one time he was at Michigan and he will be again------Be Cool Brothers Drew is our future he will make it let Big Tuna handle him like he did Bledsoe--(Bledsoe would be a good back-up if Drew beats him out for starter----Quality back-up--we need it not skip a beat--click click click--all the way to the Super Bowl

[Nors]

yeah must be hell learning how to throw a football all over again right Nors
:rolleyes:

Not reading defenses, not used to the speed of NFL defenses. Not used to running an NFL offense. Iits almost laughable to think Henson could walk in and start, Heck 41 year old VT beat him out. What does that say?

[Cbz40]

------I am and have been a big time cowboys fan for many many years---I remember when Dandy Don---Roger Staubach--Randy White--Craig Morton--Troy Aikman and all the rest played at Big D---one time or another---Relating this history to Drew Henson is important---Each of the QBs that went on to be stars at Dallas had bench and learning time--I think Roger had four yrs. to learn playbook while in the Navy. I agree with the term caution being utilized to advance Drews career--not down the road of destruction and maybe career ending injury---All of the Cowboys past starting QBs, had quality veterans playing ahead of them as trainers or mentors--Should not Drew have this same opportunity to learn,--and only force him into action when the starter goes down or score is lope-sided. Cowboys can put some points up on the scoreboard--stopping the other team is our downfall--I remember Troy--Randy and Roger all had their ups and downs---they worked it out---Drew will also-----I am like a couple of fans on this web site--I see what the Cowboys has in Drew Henson-----Quote ME, and remember this statement--Drew is very young--has a cannon for a arm---quick--tall--about 230lbs--ideal NFL QB.---and most of all he is better than Tom Brady--at one time he was at Michigan and he will be again------Be Cool Brothers Drew is our future he will make it let Big Tuna handle him like he did Bledsoe--(Bledsoe would be a good back-up if Drew beats him out for starter----Quality back-up--we need it not skip a beat--click click click--all the way to the Super Bowl


Welcome Big D #1..........enjoy the board.

[keds]

I can't comprehend why Henson is not playing in NFL Europe. Supposedly he's not good enough for NFL level talent, wouldn't NFL Europe be a good place to get him some playing time to knock off the rust, plus the game film our coaches would get to look over to start correcting flaws. All of this can be done with a much lesser chance of killing his confidence. I am baffled that Henson is not going to Europe. He had all of last season to learn the playbook. He needs any kind of playing time he can get.

[Big D #1]

I agree completely, Champsheart. I'm a big Henson fan (see my avatar), and think if given enough developmental time, he could be a good one. But realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if he's worse than just about every backup at this point. I just don't think it's fair to throw him out there against high quality defenses night in, and night out with the expectation of him performing well.

Now I guess some might say the only way for him to learn is to get playing time. Perhaps, but at some point you must demonstrate enough ability in practice before getting that luxury to play. I doubt Henson has demonstrated he's prepared to the point of Parcells feeling comfortable with him.

I know the counter argument is that guys like Palmer and Manning were thrown in there eventually. Again, true, but I'd venture to guess they were not only more prepared, but they were also FORCED into the lineups due to their contracts. How can you sit a $40+ million player for two or three years? It can't be done.

Henson is making peanuts, with the only way his contract going up is by playing. I don't think Parcells will ever rush him onto the field because, if he does, it'll likely mean Parcells will never again see a winning season in his career.

I think his plan is to develop Henson for the future on the bench, while winning with a veteran, and getting enough young talent (Witten, Jones...perhaps a WR this year) in place offensively to give Henson a good cast when he does take over the reigns after Parcells retires.

Just my two cents.---You two guys--- finally I found some one who makes sense--Many do not know what Dallas has in Drew Hensen---I saw him play in college--not much --but he put Tom Brady on the bench at Michigan---that speaks for itself--How old is Drew 23 or 24---younger than Troy was when he started---He is our future---pray for no injury

[diehard2294]

Not reading defenses, not used to the speed of NFL defenses. Not used to running an NFL offense. Iits almost laughable to think Henson could walk in and start, Heck 41 year old VT beat him out. What does that say?yeah,like he ever had a chance to with Bp love for VT, who said he could walk in and start,back and forth you go
:rolleyes:

[jimmy40]

Everytime I open a thread I keep reading we have to find out about Henson.

First let me clearly state, I have nothing against Henson, and I am praying he is the QB of the future, because if he is not then we are really behind the 8 ball.

Now here is what gets me -
Nobody on this board has any slightest clue if Henson is ready, or will be ready to see the field. Nobody could, because we have no evidence at all worth anything. And understand I did not say play well, I said see the field.

Answer me this,
1. Does Henson understand our Offense?
2. Can Henson read a NFL Defense?
3. Does Henson prepare properly for a game?
4. Does Henson understand the Game Plan?
5. Can Henson go through his progressions?
6. Can Henson recognize where the Blitz is coming from?
7. Can Henson check down properly depending on the D?
8. Can Henson stay poised under pressure?
9. And on, and on.....

These are the things that allow a QB to be successful, and it is a lot harder than it sounds. Otherwise every other strong armed, and accurate QB bust would have had success.

Where is Henson with these things?
Answer - You have no idea.

Now in no way should anyone expect him to be a vet, or perfect with these things, BUT, and please realize the BUT,
He has to be at some level in these areas to even give him any chance of any success.
If he is still struggling mightly in these areas, then he has no chance, and has no business on the field.

I know, I know, many will just say throw him out there and find out, or you can not find out without throwing him out there. True, but not true. He has to have some level of understanding first.

And in all fairness to Henson, he just may still be having a lot of trouble in these areas. He has played very little football, and not for a few years now. He is as green as it gets. We all knew this could take some time.

It just erks me because I hear so much that we have to find out about Henson now.
Well did you ever think he just may not be ready for you to find out yet. And yes if he is still behind the curve in these areas you can damage the kid.

Henson is a physically talented QB, that is litterally as green as it gets when we got him.

Are you really ready to just hand him the keys with no other QB who can play on the roster?Henson will have to beat out a veteran to play this year because Parcells cannot wait until the end of training camp to look for another option. There will be a veteran QB that still wants to start on this team in the very near future. No doubt in my mind about that.

[Zaxor]

reread the post - Parcells damn well knows. Kid started ONLY 8 college games dating back to 1998. How the heck do you expect him to walk off the street having not played football in 3 years and realistically play at the NFL level?

Henson does not deserve to be given anything yet.
Why do you mislead Henson played in closer to 30 games than 8 in college

Zaxor