Audio: On Wednesday Wade still thinks it was a 'Hailmary'

[dcfanatic]

Wade Phillips still doesn't know the play call!!! (http:// sblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/wade-phillips-still-doesnt-know-play.html)



Somebody was a little hot under the collar this morning on his weekly appearance on 105.3 The Fan and he's letting everyone know how well the offense moved the ball and how well the defense played on Sunday and is still under the impression that the play before the halftime was a Hailmary.

Just listen...

Wade on 105.3 The Fan (http://cbskrld.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/091510_wade_phillips.mp3)

As I clearly pointed out in the video from last night there was never any Hailmary called!!! This man has no freaking clue what was going on at the end of the half!!! And it's Wednesday and he still has no clue!!!

And now he's trying to tell us how great the running game was on Sunday? Well then why the hell did you only run the ball 22 times and pass it 48 times!!!

Here it comes. It's only week one and already this man has me bringing out the 'D' word to describe him. Wade Phillips is a Doofus.

[Bungarian]

It is time I put you on ignore again

[dcfanatic]

It is time I put you on ignore again

Awesome. Make that a lifetime decision.

[Bungarian]

I am sure you had a good reply but I cannot see it. You do good work. I just cannot take all the sensationalism. You are better than that.

[zrinkill]

I will take Wade's word on it.

It did not look like it to me but I and everyone on here has only an amateur opinion.

[Everlastingxxx]

You would think hearing the Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator speak would give you confidence but it has done the opposite for me. They have given me doubt. I don’t like what i am hearing. Sucks, because i was so full of positivity.

Yea, Wade has no clue what is going on in Garretts little world. That said, i think we will take care of the Bears, but we better get on the same page because we have a monster coming in after that.

[dcfanatic]

I will take Wade's word on it.

It did not look like it to me but I and everyone on here has only an amateur opinion.

So you are going to say that you agree that the last play where Choice fumbles was a Hailmary?

And before you answer know that I have the sideline cam view from Playbook.

[Section444]

No offense, but I'll take Wade's word for it.

[Mansta54]

Whooooooo cares!!!! The Bears are up next... Geeez!!!

[Apollo Creed]

I don't want to add any fuel to this because I have a feeling this thread is gonna go downhill quickly - but this is a fair question.

What exactly what were they trying to accomplish on that play?

Our coaching staff had more than a couple bone headed moves last week that costed our team a win.

Losing close games like that is what costs you home field advantage, a first round bye, or potentially even a spot in the playoffs.

It is a reasonable question.

[Chocolate Lab]

I hope Wade calls our next handoff to Gronkowski a Hail Mary. :popcorn:

[dcfanatic]

You would think hearing the Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator speak would give you confidence but it has done the opposite for me. They have given me doubt. I don’t like what i am hearing. Sucks, because i was so full of positivity.

Yea, Wade has no clue what is going on in Garretts little world. That said, i think we will take care of the Bears, but we better get on the same page because we have a monster coming in after that.

Here's my biggest problem.

Monday. Did these coaches not have a meeting to disect this situation to make sure it never happens again? And in this meeting did they not talk about what play was called and what the goal was on the play? And as I clearly state in the video they were attempting to get into FG position so how does Wade not know this after sitting in on this meeting?

Why in the world is this man still telling us three days later the team was running a Hailmary?

If you listen to Jason Garrett today he clearly says 'the play'. He says I should have called 'the play' off and taken a knee to close out the half. He never says 'Hailmary'.

I was in shock an hour ago when I got around to listening to this Wade interview. I had just assumed he talked to Garrett and they ironed everything out by now so they could go forward with confidence.

It really makes you think that these two guys, and the staff, did not go over this situation with a fine tooth comb on Monday to make sure they never do it again.

[theogt]

It was a hail mary. There were two receivers running deep. The two receivers running out routes were decoys that took defenders with them to clear out room.

[Section444]

By the way, who in the hell cares? It's freaking Wednesday and we're still going on about this crap.

[dcfanatic]

No offense, but I'll take Wade's word for it.

So they were running a Hailmary on that play where Choice fumbles?

I just want to get these people on record.

Because it's going to show a pattern.

That pattern being that they don't trust their own eyes, but they trust Wade Phillips instead.

Amazing. I have seen Homer in my day, but this is amazing.

[Section444]

So they were running a Hailmary on that play where Choice fumbles?

I just want to get these people on record.

Because it's going to show a pattern.

That pattern being that they don't trust their own eyes, but they trust Wade Phillips instead.

Amazing. I have seen Homer in my day, but this is amazing.
Are you inferring that I fall under the category of "homer"?

[Zimmy Lives]

Wade Phillips still doesn't know the play call!!! (http:// sblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/wade-phillips-still-doesnt-know-play.html)



Somebody was a little hot under the collar this morning on his weekly appearance on 105.3 The Fan and he's letting everyone know how well the offense moved the ball and how well the defense played on Sunday and is still under the impression that the play before the halftime was a Hailmary.

Just listen...

Wade on 105.3 The Fan (http://cbskrld.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/091510_wade_phillips.mp3)

As I clearly pointed out in the video from last night there was never any Hailmary called!!! This man has no freaking clue what was going on at the end of the half!!! And it's Wednesday and he still has no clue!!!

And now he's trying to tell us how great the running game was on Sunday? Well then why the hell did you only run the ball 22 times and pass it 48 times!!!

Here it comes. It's only week one and already this man has me bringing out the 'D' word to describe him. Wade Phillips is a Doofus.

You have too much time on your hands and come across as obsessive. Otherwise, keep up the great work! ;)

[ThreeSportStar80]

I hate to say it DC but the game is over with... Time to focus on Chicago.

[dcfanatic]

By the way, who in the hell cares? It's freaking Wednesday and we're still going on about this crap.

So the head coach and the offensive coordinator being all voer the map doesn't have any bearing on the next 15 games?

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

[dcfanatic]

It was a hail mary. There were two receivers running deep. The two receivers running out routes were decoys that took defenders with them to clear out room.

So you have KO, Witten, Austin and Dez on the field.

And Dez and KO are the decoys?

:laugh2:

Jason Witten would need an hour to get to the ****ing End Zone.

:laugh1:

[Section444]

So the head coach and the offensive coordinator being all voer the map doesn't have any bearing on the next 15 games?

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
So because they don't agree with you (the nobody kid on the internet who has absolutely no NFL credentials) on the language of a play, they are all over the map and will thus ruin the next 15 games?

Cool story, bro.

[theogt]

So you have KO, Witten, Austin and Dez on the field.

And Dez and KO are the decoys?

:laugh2:

Jason Witten would need an hour to get to the ****ing End Zone.

:laugh1:Yes, I mean on a last minute play, our pro bowl TE and pro bowl WR are the primary targets. And our rookie WR and 2nd year undrafted WR are not. Shocker, I know.

Jason Witten runs plays upfield (e.g., post and seam routes) all the time. This is nothing new (well, it may be new to you).

It's a hail mary.

[zrinkill]

So you are going to say that you agree that the last play where Choice fumbles was a Hailmary?

And before you answer know that I have the sideline cam view from Playbook.


I am just saying you are an amateur ...... a very good one but still just an amateur.

You only think you know what was going on.

I know you and cowboyjoe both think you are as good an knowledgeable as the Pro's ..... but I do not think that is accurate.


You are both very good amateurs ..... two of the best on this forum.

[tupperware]

:popcorn:

[zrinkill]

It's a hail mary.

I agree ...... not an exceptionally good one .... but still a hail mary.

[dcfanatic]

So because they don't agree with you (the nobody kid on the internet who has absolutely no NFL credentials) on the language of a play, they are all over the map and will thus ruin the next 15 games?

Cool story, bro.

You're right. Wade just uses the word Hailmary, but he doesn't mean the Hailmary we see all the time.

And the scenario I presented in the video made no sense.

Cool story.

[blindzebra]

So they were running a Hailmary on that play where Choice fumbles?

I just want to get these people on record.

Because it's going to show a pattern.

That pattern being that they don't trust their own eyes, but they trust Wade Phillips instead.

Amazing. I have seen Homer in my day, but this is amazing.

No I don't trust a wantabe reporter using National Enquirer 101 tactics.

[Suave]

I know it is off topic, but I did NOT like the way Wade answered the question about the kicking situation should Buehler continue to struggle.

I am really starting to lose confidence in Wade. I know; I am late to the party, but this man says things that really leave me shaking my head.

[Zimmy Lives]

I agree ...... not an exceptionally good one .... but still a hail mary.

I think it was closer to a wing and a prayer.

[dcfanatic]

Yes, I mean on a last minute play, our pro bowl TE and pro bowl WR are the primary targets. And our rookie WR and 2nd year undrafted WR are not. Shocker, I know.

Jason Witten runs plays upfield (e.g., post and seam routes) all the time. This is nothing new (well, it may be new to you).

It's a hail mary.

:lmao:

So they weren't trying to run the same play as they ran with 11 seconds left which looked to be a play where they gained enough yards to get into FG range?

[Section444]

You're right. Wade just uses the word Hailmary, but he doesn't mean the Hailmary we see all the time.

And the scenario I presented in the video made no sense.

Cool story.
I still fail to see how Wade and Garrett not agreeing with you on the language of a play is going to affect us over the next 15 weeks. Your "logic" (or complete lack-thereof) is well, illogical.

[dcfanatic]

No I don't trust a wantabe reporter using National Enquirer 101 tactics.

Was it a Hailmary?

[theogt]

:lmao:

So they weren't trying to run the same play as they ran with 11 seconds left which looked to be a play where they gained enough yards to get into FG range?I have no idea if they were running the same play before (I haven't seen the shot the shows what the WRs were doing) and it doesn't really matter if they were or not. They could have both been termed "hail mary" passes. The out routes give you two things: (1) if there's time you can possibly get out of bounds, (2) clear out defenders, giving the 2 streaking receivers a better chance at the ball.

It's a hail mary. Sorry to burst your bubble on this one.

[wconn1979]

DC I like most of the stuff you post but some times you push things too far. The coach calls it a hail mary, then fine its a hail mary, it was a last ditch effort to make something happen. You are letting your hate for Wade bleed through way too much. Like it or not he is the HC and will be till the end of the season, you can hate him all you want, post all the videos you can discrediting him, refute every fact he states and he will still be the HC on Sunday.

I dont see how people can be fans of this team and constantly bag on Jerry, Wade, and JG, I have to put up with that too much from other teams fans to want to hear it form our own.

[dcfanatic]

I have no idea if they were running the same play before (I haven't seen the shot the shows what the WRs were doing) and it doesn't really matter if they were or not. They could have both been termed "hail mary" passes. The out routes give you two things: (1) if there's time you can possibly get out of bounds, (2) clear out defenders, giving the 2 streaking receivers a better chance at the ball.

It's a hail mary. Sorry to burst your bubble on this one.

You should have watched the video.

Because you sound silly right now.

[Section444]

You should have watched the video.

Because you sound silly right now.
You sound like something else right now, but saying it would be in violation of the T.O.S. Thus, I'll let your feeble mind wonder.

[juck]

Whooooooo cares!!!! The Bears are up next... Geeez!!!
Exactly!!!!!!

[theogt]

You should have watched the video.

Because you sound silly right now.Were there 2 players running deep routes? Yes.

Was it a last second play? Yes.

Does it matter if there was an out route called? No.

It's a hailmary.

You tried to look smart and failed. I would tell you to give it up so you don't look even worse, but you'll just go on and on. Because it's what you do and it's why you have the terrible reputation you have here. The good thing is, you can't really damage your reputation any more than you already have, so dig in!!!

[dcfanatic]

DC I like most of the stuff you post but some times you push things too far. The coach calls it a hail mary, then fine its a hail mary, it was a last ditch effort to make something happen. You are letting your hate for Wade bleed through way too much. Like it or not he is the HC and will be till the end of the season, you can hate him all you want, post all the videos you can discrediting him, refute every fact he states and he will still be the HC on Sunday.

I dont see how people can be fans of this team and constantly bag on Jerry, Wade, and JG, I have to put up with that too much from other teams fans to want to hear it form our own.

Why is this hard to understand.

Wade isn't just calling it a Hailmary because he wants to call that play a Hailmary. That's the play he thinks was called. Get it?

He's not aware of what Jason Garrett was trying to do in the situation. And then he's still not aware of what was going on after the penalty was called.

How the hell is that not a problem for you? He's the head coach.

[dcfanatic]

Were there 2 players running deep routes? Yes.

Was it a last second play? Yes.

Does it matter if there was an out route called? No.

It's a hailmary.

You tried to look smart and failed. I would tell you to give it up so you don't look even worse, but you'll just go on and on. Because it's what you do and it's why you have the terrible reputation you have here. The good thing is, you can't really damage your reputation any more than you already have, so dig in!!!

If you think either of the two plays are a Hailmary your football I.Q. is Nil.

[theogt]

If you think either of the two plays are a Hailmary your football I.Q. is Nil.What's a hailmary?

Define it.

[tupperware]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass

[theogt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_passI want to hear what DCF thinks it is.

[Section444]

I want to hear what DCF thinks it is.
Comedy is about to ensue.

[bbgun]

What's a hailmary?

Define it.

Bob in a singles bar at closing time.

[Hoofbite]

Why would there be "decoys" on a play that has to end the endzone?

What purpose does that serve if the guys that were supposed to guard the "decoys" go to the endzone because anything short is pointless?

[SDogo]

Whooooooo cares!!!! The Bears are up next... Geeez!!!


Speaking the truth. Get over it DC

[Bob Sacamano]

Why would there be "decoys" on a play that has to end the endzone?

What purpose does that serve if the guys that were supposed to guard the "decoys" go to the endzone because anything short is pointless?

Seriously. It's pro forma I guess.

[zrinkill]

The term "Hail Mary pass" has become generalized to refer to any last ditch effort with little chance of success.

[theogt]

Why would there be "decoys" on a play that has to end the endzone?

What purpose does that serve if the guys that were supposed to guard the "decoys" go to the endzone because anything short is pointless?The defenders broke off and covered the decoys didn't they?

Even though they realize the play needs to get to the endzone, they're not just going to let a player catch the ball 20-30 yards downfield completely uncovered.

[dcfanatic]

What's a hailmary?

Define it.

Classic Theo. Semantics.

By the end of this he will be saying they were using the Hailmary to get Buehler into FG range.

:laugh2:

[Section444]

Classic Theo. Semantics.

By the end of this he will be saying they were using the Hailmary to get Buehler into FG range.

:laugh2:
Great job trying to avoid the question to which you cannot answer.

[theogt]

Classic Theo. Semantics.

By the end of this he will be saying they were using the Hailmary to get Buehler into FG range.

:laugh2:You said it's not a hail mary.

What's a hail mary?

[Dave_in-NC]

I hope Wade calls our next handoff to Gronkowski a Hail Mary. :popcorn:

:lmao:

Theres a pretty good chance he will.

[Venger]

Why would there be "decoys" on a play that has to end the endzone?

What purpose does that serve if the guys that were supposed to guard the "decoys" go to the endzone because anything short is pointless?

I agree, if you are going to Hail Mary into the end zone, you don't send guys underneath as a decoy - they don't care if you catch it in front of them.

Now you WOULD send guys deep in that situation to clear out the secondary if you wanted to try and run a 15 to 20 yard out, get a quick catch and step out. By running the go's and showing the Hail Mary, you get the secondary to clear out underneath coverage, leaving it open. Not sure we had enough time to actually do that, but I like the thinking behind it, if your intention was to give Buehler a crack at a half-ending 60 yarder, just to do it.

[Hoofbite]

The defenders broke off and covered the decoys didn't they?

Even though they realize the play needs to get to the endzone, they're not just going to let a player catch the ball 20-30 yards downfield completely uncovered.

With 4 seconds, the half would end. And with half the defense guarding the endzone, they don't make it.

[mkindred]

, could you post the exact seconds of your youtube clip that clearly define that this was NOT a hail mary pass? I'm reading this thread simply amazed at how much attacking is going on back and forth, but I have to say, after skimming through your youtube clip (Sorry, I couldn't stomach watching the entire thing with the constant pessimism) I did not see any evidence to claim that it was not some sort of "hailmary" except assumptions being made by you in your obvious state of anger. Just because Dez, who is coming off a high ankle sprain and might not be a good idea to get mixed up in a jump ball matchup, was not on the side where the ball was to be tossed up does not qualify it for not being a hailmary.

[Section444]

"I called the play,'' Garrett said. "It's my responsibility.''

Garrett called for a Hail Mary with the ball at their own 46 in the final seconds of the first half. A holding call on Alex Barron moved the ball back to the 36 for one, final play. But Garrett didn't alter the call.
Stupid DMN, what do they know, right?

[Bob Sacamano]

You said it's not a hail mary.

What's a hail mary?

Hail Mary, full of grace, smack a chick in her face, take her Gucci bag and the North Face off her back, Jab her if she act.

[theogt]

With 4 seconds, the half would end. And with half the defense guarding the endzone, they don't make it.Well, they didn't do that did they? They followed the receivers. I'm sure those two corners know how to defend that play, but if you're insisting that they both did the wrong thing, then I guess I'll take your word for it and assume they both made mistakes.

[Section444]

Coach Wade Phillips and offensive coordinator Jason Garrett agree that the decision to try a Hail Mary from their own 36-yard line at the end of the first half of the Cowboys' 13-7 loss to the Redskins was foolish. But they're on different pages about who should get the blame for the awful result.Stupid ESPN.

[dcfanatic]

Why would there be "decoys" on a play that has to end the endzone?

What purpose does that serve if the guys that were supposed to guard the "decoys" go to the endzone because anything short is pointless?

Because Tony Romo can now throw the ball 1,300 miles with the flick of his wrist.

:laugh2:

You didn't know Jason Witten can now jump higher than both Roy Williams and Marty B?

:laugh2:

He's faster than those two guys as well.

:laugh2:

And you always make sure Dez Bryant, the rookie who can jump out of the building and who catches balls one handed his huge mits time and time again, is the decoy for all your Hailmary plays.

:laugh2:

And because you want to give Romo as much time as possible to get the main receivers downfield for this Hailmary you send Tashard Choice out into the flat instead of keeping him to block.

:laugh2:

I looked in the dictionary under Theo.

It says - 'One with the football I.Q. of Nil'

:laugh2:

[SDogo]

Hail Mary, full of grace, pop a chick in the face!

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/k/kangaroo_punching_woman-11959.jpg

[Section444]

With four seconds left in the half, Garrett had called for a Hail Mary pass with Tony Romo supposed to heave the ball towards the end zone and hope for a penalty or miracle.
Stupid Star-Telegram.

[theogt]

Because Tony Romo can now throw the ball 1,300 miles with the flick of his wrist.What's a hail mary?

[urface59]

At this point the only Mary I care about hailing is this one. With the hope that we win this sunday...
http://www.mother-god.com/images/hail-mary-prayer.jpg

[Section444]

After the Redskins accepted a holding penalty on Alex Barron, there was no reason for a Hail Mary and no hope of escaping the first half with any points.
Stupid NBC D/FW

[cowboyjoe]

Wade Phillips still doesn't know the play call!!! (http:// sblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/wade-phillips-still-doesnt-know-play.html)



Somebody was a little hot under the collar this morning on his weekly appearance on 105.3 The Fan and he's letting everyone know how well the offense moved the ball and how well the defense played on Sunday and is still under the impression that the play before the halftime was a Hailmary.

Just listen...

Wade on 105.3 The Fan (http://cbskrld.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/091510_wade_phillips.mp3)

As I clearly pointed out in the video from last night there was never any Hailmary called!!! This man has no freaking clue what was going on at the end of the half!!! And it's Wednesday and he still has no clue!!!

And now he's trying to tell us how great the running game was on Sunday? Well then why the hell did you only run the ball 22 times and pass it 48 times!!!

Here it comes. It's only week one and already this man has me bringing out the 'D' word to describe him. Wade Phillips is a Doofus.

Two things DC

First, I agree with you that one of the plays right before the half, one of them might not have been a hailmary. I think one of them was a sideline route, to get closer for a field goal to tie the game, and give cowboys players momentum for 2nd half. When that failed, looked like last play did have some hail mary to because romo was flushed out kinda dead center of the field, with on the route some wrs, going downfield. I am not certain about that,but looked that way to me. But I do agree one of the plays was not a hailmary, but a sideline throw to get closer to the field, for hailmary.

Second, where on the show did wade elude to what you said about the running, from what i heard, wade said we did run well and we did some running decently, not super but decent. And wade never said anything at least what I heard about running or passing more. Just said we ran well and gained more yardage than the redskins. I didnt hear wade really super hot under the collar like he has been sometimes. Maybe upset alittle, but not hot under the collar from the way i heard him talk.

Finally, in conclussion, you asked where in the NFL something along those lines, has a no real head coach on a team, ever gotten to the championship game. I replied back, in a post, and even another post with what I thought how to fix the problem, and how I think jerrry jones is thinking.

95 cowboys super bowl year with switzer, with ernie zampase as experienced offensive coordinator. You didnt reply back buddy.

[Bob Sacamano]

What's a hail mary?

Honestly theo, a trained monkey could look up the definition of Hail Mary in football on Google.

[SDogo]

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[dcfanatic]

Stupid DMN, what do they know, right?

They are going off of what Wade said.

And now the media is the good guys.

:laugh2:

[theogt]

Honestly theo, a trained monkey could look up the definition of Hail Mary in football on Google.I know what it is. I want DCF to tell me what he thinks it is.

[cowboyjoe]

Stupid Star-Telegram.

they are right though, even wade admitted it, with 4 seconds on clock, and at 37 yard line, not enough time to get deep, even if romo had the arm strength to get it there, but i dont think romo has that kind of arm. :cool:

wade said we should have knelt, and we should have,

[urface59]

Seriously, is there any way for the mods to put a restriction on DC's account so that he is unable to use smilies?

[theogt]

FYI, there is only one out route being run.

Dez is running an out and up. The patterns are:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7424/1234gk.png

It's a hail mary.

[tupperware]

Hail Mary, full of grace, smack a chick in her face, take her Gucci bag and the North Face off her back, Jab her if she act.
Notorious B O B

[cowboyjoe]

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A Hail Mary pass or Hail Mary play in American football refers to any very long forward pass, long bomb, or dragon made in desperation with only a small chance of success, especially one thrown at or near the end of a half. The expression was made famous when it was used to describe the game-winning touchdown pass by Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach to Drew Pearson in a NFL 1975-76 divisional playoff game. Afterwards, it was reported that Staubach said, "I closed my eyes and said a Hail Mary." [1]

[Hoofbite]

Well, they didn't do that did they? They followed the receivers. I'm sure those two corners know how to defend that play, but if you're insisting that they both did the wrong thing, then I guess I'll take your word for it and assume they both made mistakes.

I just don't think it makes sense to have decoys on a play that absolutely cannot end short.

There's no way they could get enough time for another snap.

dc, you have that sideline cam handy?

[dcfanatic]

What's a hail mary?

Were they calling a Hailmary or where they trying to gain enough yards to get Buehler into FG range?

This is the premise of the argument.

Stay on course here.

Wade thinks it was a Hailmary. A pass play in which the QB would throw it to the End Zone in hopes of a miracle TD.

Garrett isn't calling a Hailmary. He's using the same play that he called on the first play that he was going to use to try and get Buehler into FG which was nullified by the penalty. He then just kept the same play call on again.

Figure it out. It's not that hard.

You will notice Garrett never uses the term Hailmary today.

BECAUSE THERE WAS NO HAILMARY CALLED AND WADE THINKS THERE WAS ONE CALLED.

It's like talking to a rock.

:laugh2:

[urface59]

It's like talking to a rock.



If only you knew...

[dcfanatic]

FYI, there is only one out route being run.

Dez is running an out and up. The patterns are:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7424/1234gk.png (http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7424/1234gk.png)

It's a hail mary.

So now Dez is running a stop and go route on a Hailmary.

:lmao:

Because the CB's are going to bite on that route with 4 seconds left.

:lmao:

[theogt]

I just don't think it makes sense to have decoys on a play that absolutely cannot end short.

There's no way they could get enough time for another snap.

dc, you have that sideline cam handy?There's only one decoy and it's on the left side. It doesn't make any sense to have 3 receivers streaking down the left side. You run an out route, it takes a defender with him and clears out some room for the other 2 on that side.

[SDogo]

You will notice Garrett never uses the term Hailmary today.

BECAUSE THERE WAS NO HAILMARY CALLED AND WADE THINKS THERE WAS ONE CALLED.


Does it really matter?

In the grand scheme of things does it change anything?

Who cares if Wade says midgets are tall and Garrett said there are tall midgets?

You might be the only person I know that at this point really gives a rats posterior about it.

[theogt]

So now Dez is running a stop and go route on a Hailmary.

Because the CB's are going to bite on that route with 4 seconds left.Watch Dez on the play. He gets behind the corner.

Mission accomplished.

Oh, by the way, what's a hail mary?

[Dave_in-NC]

Was it a hail Mary or not? I don't want to read six pages of this.

[Bob Sacamano]

Oh, by the way, what's a hail mary?

Now I'm curious to know what a hail mary is too.

[tupperware]

If you watched the pressers Wade said they stuck with the same play. Obviously we were not going to throw the hail mary with more than 10 seconds on the clock. Once the time came off, it was the same play, which wasn't a hail mary. You don't even need videos to figure it out. I think Wade has confused himself somehow, not sure how though. I don't think either he nor Garrett are on the same page.

But I'm not going to argue about what it truly was or isn't I'm just reading between the lines.

[theogt]

Was it a hail Mary or not? I don't want to read six pages of this.If 3 receivers running deep routes with 4 seconds left to go is a hail mary, then it's a hail mary.

[SDogo]

Now I'm curious to know what a hail mary is too.


Mary Castro..................

[dcfanatic]

Does it really matter?

In the grand scheme of things does it change anything?

Who cares if Wade says midgets are tall and Garrett said there are tall midgets?

You might be the only person I know that at this point really gives a rats posterior about it.

So then why are you posting in here.

Go away.

[Dave_in-NC]

If you watched the pressers Wade said they stuck with the same play. Obviously we were not going to throw the hail mary with more than 10 seconds on the clock. Once the time came off, it was the same play, which wasn't a hail mary. You don't even need videos to figure it out. I think Wade has confused himself somehow, not sure how though. I don't think either he nor Garrett are on the same page.

But I'm not going to argue about what it truly was or isn't I'm just reading between the lines.

Really? Your not sure how our Wade Phillips could be confused?;)

[dcfanatic]

If 3 receivers running deep routes with 4 seconds left to go is a hail mary, then it's a hail mary.

He still thinks Dez goes deep.

:laugh2:

It's a first and 20.

Right at the time when Romo tosses to Choice you can see Dez is right on the sideline at the first down marker.

But he's running a deep pattern, lol.

:laugh2:

[Dave_in-NC]

Now I'm curious to know what a hail mary is too.

It's what Zrin does before he opens one of Joes threads.:D

[Idgit]

This thread is so money.

[theogt]

He still thinks Dez goes deep.

It's a first and 20.

Right at the time when Romo tosses to Choice you can see Dez is right on the sideline at the first down marker.

But he's running a deep pattern, lol.Check the tape and check where Miles Austin is compared to Dez when Romo is throwing the ball. Same distance downfield.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1728/1234e.png

Dez is on the right, Austin is on the left. This is right after Romo dumps the ball off.

[SDogo]

So then why are you posting in here.

Go away.

I have psychology degree. I often find enjoyment in observing the behavior of people that are self absorbent, egotistical and have OCD tendencies.

Every hear the story of Humpty Dumpty through the eyes of a young man with Ego Disease?

Just wondering.

[Hostile]

Wade Phillips. Head Coach of the team?

Or...

A fan on the Internet?


I'm sorry DC. You haven't got a prayer of winning this. You need to let it go.

[cowboyjoe]

It's what Zrin does before he opens one of Joes threads.:D

dave, you know whats even funnier, Zrin, does open my threads right?

:D

[Bob Sacamano]

XFAOJnfM6g8

[urface59]

An ode to DC
http://tvoenglish7.wikispaces.com/file/view/Ytse-smilies.jpg/32234775/Ytse-smilies.jpg

[Dave_in-NC]

dave, you know whats even funnier, Zrin, does open my threads right?

:D

We all do Joe.

[cowboyjoe]

Wade Phillips. Head Coach of the team?

Or...

A fan on the Internet?


I'm sorry DC. You haven't got a prayer of winning this. You need to let it go.

Hos, at least i didnt start this thread. :D

[cowboyjoe]

We all do Joe.

i know was trying to make a funny :D

i get lots of zoners that look at my posts

sometimes their good, some bad and sometimes ugly, but i try

at least i didnt make the one about the looking at number one pick already, which is way to early, besides u shouldnt even think that
:cool:

[theogt]

Oh, by the way, what's a hail mary?*crickets*

[Bob Sacamano]

*crickets*
:laugh1:Nors?

[zrinkill]

dave, you know whats even funnier, Zrin, does open my threads right?

:D

Every one ...... they are great when you are not so upset.

[dcfanatic]

I have psychology degree. I often find enjoyment in observing the behavior of people that are self absorbent, egotistical and have OCD tendencies.

Every hear the story of Humpty Dumpty through the eyes of a young man with Ego Disease?

Just wondering.

Take your degree and leave the thread you don't see any value in.

Then we will all know how smart you really are.

:laugh2:

[dcfanatic]

*crickets*

Uh. I answered this like 20 posts ago.

:laugh2:

Stop drawing silly red diagrams and start reading.

[SDogo]

Take your degree and leave the thread you don't see any value in.

Then we will all know how smart you really are.

:laugh2:

:laugh2:

at you thinking it's the thread that has no "value"

[zrinkill]

Wade Phillips. Head Coach of the team?

Or...

A fan on the Internet?


I'm sorry DC. You haven't got a prayer of winning this. You need to let it go.

This ....

[cowboyjoe]

Every one ...... they are great when you are not so upset.

buddy, tried to tell you, im a beast when we lose like we did sunday night,

like an old sour bear, when he wakes up from his winter nap,

in a nasty mood, incoherent

ranting and raving, thats me when we lose by giving game away

just like how shango acted, im mad, pissed off,

you just dont want to talk to me on day after we lost

im just cranky, i just see red all day long way the cowboys lost

now, if a team beat us but we played hard as we could, i can accept that, but when we blow it, bigtime,

look out, im ticked off big time

[Bob Sacamano]

This thread is now about rosaries.

[dcfanatic]

Wade Phillips. Head Coach of the team?

Or...

A fan on the Internet?


I'm sorry DC. You haven't got a prayer of winning this. You need to let it go.

There is no winning or losing.

There was no Hailmary called. That's a fact.

[theogt]

Uh. I answered this like 20 posts ago.

:laugh2:

Stop drawing silly red diagrams and start reading.Ahh....you're right. I missed it in the sea of smiley faces.

Here is your answer:

A pass play in which the QB would throw it to the End Zone in hopes of a miracle TD.So answer this question -- could Romo have thrown the ball to the end zone in hopes of miracle TD with 2 (or 3) receivers running deep routes?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

[dcfanatic]

:laugh2:

at you thinking it's the thread that has no "value"

You just implied this a short time ago.

Yet you are still in it. I can't understand his concept.

But then again I don't have a degree in psycologicallylolcology.

[cowboyjoe]

Ahh....you're right. I missed it in the sea of smiley faces.

Here is your answer:

So answer this question -- could Romo have thrown the ball to the end zone in hopes of miracle TD with 2 (or 3) receivers running deep routes?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

he may have u now dc, but i would like to look at the sideline cam view you have though

[dcfanatic]

Ahh....you're right. I missed it in the sea of smiley faces.

Here is your answer:

So answer this question -- could Romo have thrown the ball to the end zone in hopes of miracle TD with 2 (or 3) receivers running deep routes?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Romo was intending to throw it to Dez on the sideline. Just like he did on the previous play which was called back due to a penalty.

Because he wanted to get Buehler in FG range.

So no.

The decision to throw it into the End Zone never entered his mind on this play.

[Bware_Dware]

Were they calling a Hailmary or where they trying to gain enough yards to get Buehler into FG range?

This is the premise of the argument.

Stay on course here.

Wade thinks it was a Hailmary. A pass play in which the QB would throw it to the End Zone in hopes of a miracle TD.

Garrett isn't calling a Hailmary. He's using the same play that he called on the first play that he was going to use to try and get Buehler into FG which was nullified by the penalty. He then just kept the same play call on again.

Figure it out. It's not that hard.

You will notice Garrett never uses the term Hailmary today.

BECAUSE THERE WAS NO HAILMARY CALLED AND WADE THINKS THERE WAS ONE CALLED.

It's like talking to a rock.

:laugh2:

DC just because every receiever isnt running streaks doesnt mean it is not a hail mary.... essentially whether it be 5 receivers or 2 receivers, any last ditch effort to launch the ball as far as you can towards the endzone is a hail mary.

As for the out route, yes it DOES need to be covered for the simple fact that if the receiver catches it, then gets a couple good blocks from his receivers up field, it could turn into 6 before you know it, which is why you stop the ball asap.

But whatever, games over, highly doubt we'll see that crap again, so lets move on. Thank god Ware is o.k.

[dcfanatic]

I have to go now. But I will be back.

[LongSnapper]

Hail Mary: a desperation play. Does it really matter the formation?

[urface59]

Over this issue:


DC and Theogt: :fight:


The rest of humanity: :damn:

[zrinkill]

buddy, tried to tell you, im a beast when we lose like we did sunday night,

like an old sour bear, when he wakes up from his winter nap,

in a nasty mood, incoherent

ranting and raving, thats me when we lose by giving game away

just like how shango acted, im mad, pissed off,

you just dont want to talk to me on day after we lost

im just cranky, i just see red all day long way the cowboys lost

now, if a team beat us but we played hard as we could, i can accept that, but when we blow it, bigtime,

look out, im ticked off big time

Thats fine man ..... just get over it .... we need you for the info ..... like your new A.J. Hawk thread .... thats what I love reading.

[theogt]

Romo was intending to throw it to Dez on the sideline. Just like he did on the previous play which was called back due to a penalty.

Because he wanted to get Buehler in FG range.

So no.

The decision to throw it into the End Zone never entered his mind on this play.So your position is that he could not have thrown a pass deep toward the end zone?

He could not throw the ball to Miles Austin or Jason Witten? Could not?

[McLovin]

First what's done is done, but DC is 100% right on this. This was apparent from the beginning

I don't see how it is debatable that it wasn't a hail mary. By definition, it is the lowest percentage play in the book. It requires a TD and everyone in a route to go as far vertically down the field as fast as they can go. You don't care if it is intercepted as (and I hate this ter) it is as "good as a punt"

The defense knows this (thus why rushing 3). The QB basically buys as much time and flings it as far as possible. You want as many receivers down there so you may have a lucky ricochet. If you send 2, its 2 against 8 (20%) if you send 4, its 4 against 8 (33%).

The only part of that play that was a hail mary by default (i.e. worse odds of success) was dumping it off (on a lateral) to Choice in hopes he could recreate the cal bears stanford finally. However, Only Jay Schroeder, and Jeff George had a shot at 70yds on the fly hail mary.

Anyway, big picture is Wade is detached from the offense and Garret is trying to save face. that is expected. Most reports and 99% of the public have no clue what follow ups to ask.

Check any Madden or College, or NFL playbooks. No hail mary routes use decoys. This was either a) the same play to try to get 15 -20 yds for a FG (with 3 secs left) or b) a play to pad Romo's passing stats.

Either way it was wrong and stupid on all parts.

Just don't expect coaches to come out and say "I was completey incompetent on that play" "The OC told me it was a hail mary", etc

[BlueStar3398]

Hail Mary: a desperation play. Does it really matter the formation?

That picture of Alex.... :lmao: Poor guy. He will never live that down. It's gonna be like Leon Lett in that game during the ice storm.

[urface59]

First what's done is done, but DC is 100% right on this. This was apparent from the beginning

I don't see how it is debatable that it wasn't a hail mary. By definition, it is the lowest percentage play in the book. It requires a TD and everyone in a route to go as far vertically down the field as fast as they can go. You don't care if it is intercepted as (and I hate this ter) it is as "good as a punt"

The defense knows this (thus why rushing 3). The QB basically buys as much time and flings it as far as possible. You want as many receivers down there so you may have a lucky ricochet. If you send 2, its 2 against 8 (20%) if you send 4, its 4 against 8 (33%).

The only part of that play that was a hail mary by default (i.e. worse odds of success) was dumping it off (on a lateral) to Choice in hopes he could recreate the cal bears stanford finally. However, Only Jay Schroeder, and Jeff George had a shot at 70yds on the fly hail mary.

Anyway, big picture is Wade is detached from the offense and Garret is trying to save face. that is expected. Most reports and 99% of the public have no clue what follow ups to ask.

Check any Madden or College, or NFL playbooks. No hail mary routes use decoys. This was either a) the same play to try to get 15 -20 yds for a FG (with 3 secs left) or b) a play to pad Romo's passing stats.

Either way it was wrong and stupid on all parts.

Just don't expect coaches to come out and say "I was completey incompetent on that play" "The OC told me it was a hail mary", etc

not to give anyone the impression that I actually give damn but if your plan is to heave it down the field on a prayer then it's a hail mary, whether or not one receiver breaks off.

[theogt]

The defense knows this (thus why rushing 3). The QB basically buys as much time and flings it as far as possible. You want as many receivers down there so you may have a lucky ricochet. If you send 2, its 2 against 8 (20%) if you send 4, its 4 against 8 (33%).First, there aren't 8 defenders downfield. There are 4 rushing the QB. Not 3, as you claim. And there are 2 linebackers in mid field.

So it becomes very apparent, very quickly that you have no idea what's going on in the play, so the rest of your post isn't worth reading.

[Dave_in-NC]

First what's done is done, but DC is 100% right on this. This was apparent from the beginning

I don't see how it is debatable that it wasn't a hail mary. By definition, it is the lowest percentage play in the book. It requires a TD and everyone in a route to go as far vertically down the field as fast as they can go. You don't care if it is intercepted as (and I hate this ter) it is as "good as a punt"

The defense knows this (thus why rushing 3). The QB basically buys as much time and flings it as far as possible. You want as many receivers down there so you may have a lucky ricochet. If you send 2, its 2 against 8 (20%) if you send 4, its 4 against 8 (33%).

The only part of that play that was a hail mary by default (i.e. worse odds of success) was dumping it off (on a lateral) to Choice in hopes he could recreate the cal bears stanford finally. However, Only Jay Schroeder, and Jeff George had a shot at 70yds on the fly hail mary.

Anyway, big picture is Wade is detached from the offense and Garret is trying to save face. that is expected. Most reports and 99% of the public have no clue what follow ups to ask.

Check any Madden or College, or NFL playbooks. No hail mary routes use decoys. This was either a) the same play to try to get 15 -20 yds for a FG (with 3 secs left) or b) a play to pad Romo's passing stats.

Either way it was wrong and stupid on all parts.

Just don't expect coaches to come out and say "I was completey incompetent on that play" "The OC told me it was a hail mary", etc

Who's to say Garrett didn't put his own version of the hail mary together.
He is very cerebral ya know.

[tupperware]

This is better than anything that comes on during prime time.

:popcorn:

[Chocolate Lab]

Somehow I'm thinking this thread didn't go as planned.

[Air Force One]

but if your plan is to heave it down the field on a prayer then it's a hail mary.ah but this is the crux of the matter: was it Romo's PLAN to heave it to the endzone?

[urface59]

Somehow I'm thinking this thread didn't go as planned.

It was a DC thread. It had personal insults and smilies aplenty. It definitely went as planned.

[McLovin]

so if one breaks off a route in 15 yds and goes out of bounds as as time expires...the play was by definition not a hail mary

[urface59]

ah but this is the crux of the matter: was it Romo's PLAN to heave it to the endzone?

No one here can prove either way. And I really don't care.

[SDogo]

Somehow I'm thinking this thread didn't go as planned.

no, he was hoping it was going to be some great Wade bash in support of his transparent agenda all ending in a "DC is the almighty" love fest where he takes credit for saving man kind from Wade Phillips brain washing and thanks the masses for continued support and scorns those who question the legality of his video's.

last but not least a prayer would be said for the man who invented :laugh2::laugh1:
allowing him an easy out to hard questions or situations he otherwise would need to face head on.

[theogt]

so if one breaks off a route in 15 yds and goes out of bounds as as time expires...the play was by definition not a hail maryIf your definition of a hail mary was that all four routes have to be go routes, then it was not a hail mary.

But, of course, your definition is wrong, so there's that problem.

[Air Force One]

No one here can prove either way. And I really don't care.well if you don't care then why are you posting

[poke]

i will even dare to say a " hail mary" doesnt have to be intended to be thrown to the end zone.

i know that is the common thought but a team could throw a pass deep down field in the hope that a defensive pass interference call would be made.
that could give you the ball with an untimed play close enough to attempt either another play or a field goal.

[urface59]

well if you don't care then why are you posting

Because this thread is just too good to not say I was apart of it.

[McLovin]

If your definition of a hail mary was that all four routes have to be go routes, then it was not a hail mary.

But, of course, your definition is wrong, so there's that problem.


No the definition is throwing it as far as you can. not a lateral to the RB...

Are you serious or just waiting for the short bus you missed 10 minutes ago

[Air Force One]

i will even dare to say a " hail mary" doesnt have to be intended to be thrown to the end zone.

i know that is the common thought but a team could throw a pass deep down field in the hope that a defensive pass interference call would be made.
that could give you the ball with an untimed play close enough to attempt either another play or a field goal.I agree

[theogt]

No the definition is throwing it as far as you can. not a lateral to the RB...

Are you serious or just waiting for the short bus you missed 10 minutes agoI'm sorry, I mistook you for someone with the ability to think.

Carry on.

[McLovin]

i will even dare to say a " hail mary" doesnt have to be intended to be thrown to the end zone.

i know that is the common thought but a team could throw a pass deep down field in the hope that a defensive pass interference call would be made.
that could give you the ball with an untimed play close enough to attempt either another play or a field goal.

Which would not get an interference call on lateral. So the hail mary call (i.e. we need yardage/TD at all costs as there is no time) would not have been executed.

The defense can't take away a hail mary short of sacing the QB

[Air Force One]

Because this thread is just too good to not say I was apart of it.right...you care....so much you want to say you were a part of it. I think that's pretty weird because I'm never going to claim to have been a part of this, but to each their own.

[SDogo]

i will even dare to say a " hail mary" doesnt have to be intended to be thrown to the end zone.

i know that is the common thought but a team could throw a pass deep down field in the hope that a defensive pass interference call would be made.
that could give you the ball with an untimed play close enough to attempt either another play or a field goal.


good call:bow:

[SDogo]

right...you care....so much you want to say you were a part of it. I think that's pretty weird because I'm never going to claim to have been a part of this, but to each their own.


eh, wont matter. I'm predicting a padlock icon on this thread before the nights over.

[McLovin]

If your definition of a hail mary was that all four routes have to be go routes, then it was not a hail mary.

But, of course, your definition is wrong, so there's that problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass

read "Set up" if you can click the blue link

Wow. NO wonder

[urface59]

right...you care....so much you want to say you were a part of it. I think that's pretty weird because I'm never going to claim to have been a part of this, but to each their own.

Hey man, i'm trying to avoid having a serious conversation in this thread... Dammit, see what you've done?

[poke]

ya know we could have avoided this whole unfortunate thread if we all would have just agreed with the earlier video version of this thread titled:

Video: There was no Hailmary called before Halftime!!!

i am Rueing that choice.

[SDogo]

ya know we could have avoided this whole unfortunate thread if we all would have just agreed with the earlier video version of this thread titled:

Video: There was no Hailmary called before Halftime!!!

i am Rueing that choice.


two posts on the same subject equals twice the attention!!!

love your status by the way. lol

[McLovin]

First, there aren't 8 defenders downfield. There are 4 rushing the QB. Not 3, as you claim. And there are 2 linebackers in mid field.

So it becomes very apparent, very quickly that you have no idea what's going on in the play, so the rest of your post isn't worth reading.


OK so the dominitor improves. 2/7 or 4/7

I see reading nor math is your strong suit.

How about colors?

[poke]

Which would not get an interference call on lateral. So the hail mary call (i.e. we need yardage/TD at all costs as there is no time) would not have been executed.

The defense can't take away a hail mary short of sacing the QB

you do realize the so called lateral wasnt the intended play dont you ?

[theogt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass

read "Set up" if you can click the blue link

Wow. NO wonderYes, that proves my point.

Thanks.

[McLovin]

Coach:

"OK guys we have 3 seconds and we need some points. We are gonna pull out all the stops. Hail Mary on 3. Dez run a 15 yd out and get out of bounds. Tony if Dez isn't open, lateral it to Choice."

Just as it was drawn up by Roger Staubauch and Drew Pearson themselves.

[theogt]

Coach:

"OK guys we have 3 seconds and we need some points. We are gonna pull out all the stops. Hail Mary on 3. Dez run a 15 yd out and get out of bounds. Tony if Dez isn't open, lateral it to Choice."

Just as it was drawn up by Roger Staubauch and Drew Pearson themselves.And it becomes even more apparent you have no idea what was going on on the field.

[McLovin]

Yes, that proves my point.

Thanks.


Actually yeah you're right. With Garret a hail mary likely does mean lateral to the RB and 3 stooge it all the way for 6. Just as the penchant for 800 WR screens that always get 1 yd.

You can never say "Generally 3 or more receivers running fly patterns" and expect Garret to follow that.

Thus he found the one formation to be less successful %-wise as a "typical" hail mary.

Garrets hail mary = any pas -2 to 15 yds.

That is going to make color commentary alot easier for Cowboy games.

[theogt]

you do realize the so called lateral wasnt the intended play dont you ?No, as you can see below, he apparently doesn't.

Actually yeah you're right. With Garret a hail mary likely does mean lateral to the RB and 3 stooge it all the way for 6. Just as the penchant for 800 WR screens that always get 1 yd.

You can never say "Generally 3 or more receivers running fly patterns" and expect Garret to follow that.

Thus he found the one formation to be less successful %-wise as a "typical" hail mary.

Garrets hail mary = any pas -2 to 15 yds.

That is going to make color commentary alot easier for Cowboy games.

[McLovin]

So since the WR smoke screens were when the ball travels +1 yd - can we consider those "Vertical Hail Mary's"

[urface59]

So since the WR smoke screens were when the ball travels +1 yd - can we consider those "Vertical Hail Mary's"

what the hell are you talking about?

[Bob Sacamano]

Would someone, besides me, just starting flaming away so we can get this thread locked?

[McLovin]

I am learning that Hail mary's have option routes . And don't have to involve the ball going beyond the line of scrimmage.

[poke]

So since the WR smoke screens were when the ball travels +1 yd - can we consider those "Vertical Hail Mary's"

now those passes i would call "horizontal" hail mary's !:D

cheer up guys it wednesday.

[urface59]

Would someone, besides me, just starting flaming away so we can get this thread locked?

Uhhhhh http://www.popserious.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/pickles01.jpg

[McLovin]

No, as you can see below, he apparently doesn't.

So your saying "The Hail Mary wasn't open"

:laugh2:

[theogt]

So since the WR smoke screens were when the ball travels +1 yd - can we consider those "Vertical Hail Mary's"We can consider you completely clueless.

[urface59]

So your saying "The Hail Mary wasn't open"

:laugh2:

Are you really this dense?

[McLovin]

Yes I am a that dense. I know that last play resembled nothing of a "Hail Mary" I have ever seen (work). I guess it was a hail mary you guys are right.

I will take my 4 years of college football and PHD in Financial Mathematics engineering and bid you adieu.

Some moron called that play, some moron called it a hail mary, and you want to side with their defintion of a Hail Mary

[casmith07]

Romo should have just heaved it out of bounds.

[urface59]

Yes I am a that dense. I know that last play resembled nothing of a "Hail Mary" I have ever seen (work). I guess it was a hail mary you guys are right.

I will take my 4 years of college football and PHD in Financial Mathematics engineering and bid you adieu.

But you were entertaining us so much!

[theogt]

Yes I am a that dense.It was rhetorical. We all knew the answer already.

[Quarterback Coach]

It is time I put you on ignore again


Why because he demands more from his team than a paper championship?

[bbgun]

Even Campo can't take much more of this.

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6341/ch51sunsep122010104426p.png

[The Emperor]

Wade Phillips still doesn't know the play call!!! (http:// sblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/wade-phillips-still-doesnt-know-play.html)



Somebody was a little hot under the collar this morning on his weekly appearance on 105.3 The Fan and he's letting everyone know how well the offense moved the ball and how well the defense played on Sunday and is still under the impression that the play before the halftime was a Hailmary.

Just listen...

Wade on 105.3 The Fan (http://cbskrld.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/091510_wade_phillips.mp3)

As I clearly pointed out in the video from last night there was never any Hailmary called!!! This man has no freaking clue what was going on at the end of the half!!! And it's Wednesday and he still has no clue!!!

And now he's trying to tell us how great the running game was on Sunday? Well then why the hell did you only run the ball 22 times and pass it 48 times!!!

Here it comes. It's only week one and already this man has me bringing out the 'D' word to describe him. Wade Phillips is a Doofus.

Daryl Johnston thinks it's a Hail Mary too. I guess they were both listening to Dick Nixon tapes or something.

I don't know what the technical term for it is, but it was a mistake. That's all.

[Hostile]

There is no winning or losing.

There was no Hailmary called. That's a fact.I watched the play again. I am 100% positive the play call was a hail mary designed to get the ball down the field to hope for a miracle or a PI penalty and they could go for a field goal. Players were downfield deep.

The coaches are telling you this was the call. You need to let it go.

[Hostile]

Hail Mary: a desperation play. Does it really matter the formation?No, formation has nothing to do with it.

[dcfanatic]

Somehow I'm thinking this thread didn't go as planned.

No, it went better than planned.

Theo looks like he knows nothing about football.

:laugh2:

And again. If you watch this video below and tell me that this is a 'Hailmary' play call then you should not be on this forum because I would think anything being written on here would useless info for you...

e1DWgaRKXq8

Hey Theo.

Maybe Wade should have named this a 'HailWitten'...

Because he's the only one going anywhere near the End Zone and he's gona need another 15 minutes to get there. By that time Alex Barron could have used a sleeper hold on all 11 Skins defenders.

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

I can see it now.

Romoo hits Witten on a 'HailWitten' to close out the half, lol.

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

[urface59]

Just when I thought this wonderful thread had seen it's last post...

[Arch Stanton]

All Hail Mary!

[dcfanatic]

I watched the play again. I am 100% positive the play call was a hail mary designed to get the ball down the field to hope for a miracle or a PI penalty and they could go for a field goal. Players were downfield deep.

The coaches are telling you this was the call. You need to let it go.

What coaches?

Jason Garrett never called it a Hailmary.

And the design was the same design which was run on the previous play.

Get the ball to Dez on an out because he's singled up on the top of the screen. Hopefully we can get enough yards to try a long FG.

Romo looks at him on the first play. And then on the second play.

If you or anyone else in here can't see it then I feel bad for you.

Because then it means you are all somehow still hanging on to the idea that because Wade used the term Hailmary that he actually has any clue about what went on to close out that half.

He didn't during the game. And he didn't today.

That's the fact Jack!!!

[Idgit]

No, it went better than planned.

Theo looks like he knows nothing about football.

:laugh2:

And again. If you watch this video below and tell me that this is a 'Hailmary' play call then you should not be on this forum because I would think anything being written on here would useless info for you...

e1DWgaRKXq8

Hey Theo.

Maybe Wade should have named this a 'HailWitten'...

Because he's the only one going anywhere near the End Zone and he's gona need another 15 minutes to get there. By that time Alex Barron could have used a sleeper hold on all 11 Skins defenders.

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

I can see it now.

Romoo hits Witten on a 'HailWitten' to close out the half, lol.

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

The video supports theo's position, dc.

[poke]

The video supports theo's position, dc.

what i found odd was the commentators discussion that said it shouldnt be on Wade. they laid it on the players execution yet the OP has posted this video in 2 threads screaming that it proves his point about Wade being clueless.

talk about clueless

[Idgit]

what i found odd was the commentators discussion that said it shouldnt be on Wade. they laid it on the players execution yet the OP has posted this video in 2 threads screaming that it proves his point about Wade being clueless.

talk about clueless

Mayock's right that it's the kind of play you run hoping to get the PI call and a shot at the FG.

People scream all the time about being aggressive on offense. I think it was an ok play call on offense, and only a bad risk when it didn't pay off. But I agree, the receivers didn't get open, and the QB threw a ball that was nearly a lateral that he should have just thrown away, and the RB fumbled it. The problem was the execution.

Now, I'm not sure why there's an outlet receiver on that play, anyway. We'd have been better served keeping Choice in to block to buy another second for the play downfield, but that's another matter.

Either way, WAS played great, and a turnover/touchdown was pretty much the only thing we couldn't do in that game and not win. If you watched NFLN after the game, Shanahan was sincerely impressed that they were able to beat our team. We must be pretty good when the opposing coach has that much respect for us. Something tells me we'll be just fine come midseason.

[esloan]

I swear, I read this entire thread and I think I lost 50 or so IQ points in doing so. Of course, that's not too bad, as I am still well ahead of DC. :laugh2:

DC, let it go. It was a hail mary. A poorly run one, sure, but still a hail mary.

[dcfanatic]

Mayock's right that it's the kind of play you run hoping to get the PI call and a shot at the FG.

People scream all the time about being aggressive on offense. I think it was an ok play call on offense, and only a bad risk when it didn't pay off. But I agree, the receivers didn't get open, and the QB threw a ball that was nearly a lateral that he should have just thrown away, and the RB fumbled it. The problem was the execution.

Now, I'm not sure why there's an outlet receiver on that play, anyway. We'd have been better served keeping Choice in to block to buy another second for the play downfield, but that's another matter.

Either way, WAS played great, and a turnover/touchdown was pretty much the only thing we couldn't do in that game and not win. If you watched NFLN after the game, Shanahan was sincerely impressed that they were able to beat our team. We must be pretty good when the opposing coach has that much respect for us. Something tells me we'll be just fine come midseason.

Watch it again.

He says 'IF' that was what the design of the play was then Romo has be looking to throw it downfield.

Just look at Miles. Miles runs an underneath route. He waits for Witten to run upfield and take the defenders with him. Then he is going to cross uderneath them and run across the field in hopes of Romo hitting him so he can get out of bounds quickly for a FG attempt. If he was running a route for a Hailmary he would be up the sideline. Just watch how he never pushes past Witten as they leave the LOS. You telling me Witten is as fast as Miles after 20 yards? No.

Now look at Dez. He gets behind the defender and immediately looks for a pass near the sideline so he can get out of bounds.

Now look at KO. He runs up from the middle position and heads to the sideline on an out route.

It's the same play they were running from the 46 yard line but they were pushed back to the 36 yard line.

They screwed up.

Let's make it real simple.

Marty B and Roy are not in on the Hailmary pass? The best jumpers on this team are not in on a jump ball situation where the ball is being thrown as far you can downfield in hopes of getting a miracle TD or a PI for a FG attempt?

[tico]

They said it on Inside the NFL, Wade should have said no to Garrett "he is the Head Coach after all"

[Beast_from_East]

Why is this hard to understand.

Wade isn't just calling it a Hailmary because he wants to call that play a Hailmary. That's the play he thinks was called. Get it?

He's not aware of what Jason Garrett was trying to do in the situation. And then he's still not aware of what was going on after the penalty was called.

How the hell is that not a problem for you? He's the head coach.

Dude, what the hell is your problem???


We all know that Wade does the D and Garrett does the O. That is the way this team is set up and that is the way it is going to be the rest of the season. You act like this is some scoop you just discovered, news flash.....ITS BEEN THAT WAY EVER SINCE GARRETT WAS HIRED FIRST!!!!


Everybody on this board seems to realize this but you. Yes, you are 100% correct that Wade had no clue what was going on with the offense on that last play, he was talking with the defensive coaches. But you act like this is some big conspiracy you just discovered, its been that way since day 1 and it is going to stay that way until either Wade or Garrett is fired.

I will repeat, Wade does the D and Garrett does the O and the two have basically nothing to do with each other. When was the last time you have seen the two of them talking on the sideline??? I usually see Wade stading one place and Garrett either sitting on the bench talking with the offensive players or he is standing by himself at the end of the bench area looking over his playsheet.

Like I said, everybody already knows this, why are you acting like it is a big scoop or something???

[Kilyin]

is incapable of admitting he's wrong, so he's just going to keep burying himself into a deeper hole. Kind of amusing, actually.

[wconn1979]

To me a hail mary pass is a last effort to get points on the board, wether to get into FG range or to score a TD. In my oppinion looking at the last 2 plays we ran we were basicaly throwing up a prayer or HAIL MARY. When you gamble some times you lose.


If it works he is a genius and if it doesnt you get this.

[Section444]

TROY AIKMAN just called it a Hail Mary on the radio, what a moron right? What the hell does he know about offenses and passing, the nerve.

[zrinkill]

TROY AIKMAN just called it a Hail Mary on the radio, what a moron right? What the hell does he know about offenses and passing, the nerve.


They will just say he is protecting his buddy.

[cowboyjoe]

They will just say he is protecting his buddy.

:muttley:

[Double Trouble]

:laugh2: at the people who are saying this is opinion. Either it was a hail mary or it wasn't. Opinions are irrelevant.

That Wade doesn't know, that Wade and Garrett totally screwed up the last 4 seconds of the first half, that they totally butchered the use of timeouts in the last few minutes, shouldn't surprise anyone. They either lack the knowledge to understand something as simple as the clock, or the conviction to make a decision follow through with it. Wade isn't a leader of men, and lacks the common sense to understand in even the most obvious situation when to call a timeout. This current mess is just a symptom of having these 2 clowns as our co-head coaches.

[Apollo Creed]

I don't think Tony can throw the ball 65+ yards in the air though.

So regardless of what was called, it wasn't going to work regardless.

And not many plays can be run that only take 3 seconds off the clock, especially ones 20-30 yards downfield.

Hell the post to KO in the redzone took like 5 or 6 seconds off the clock.

Semantics or not, it was a bad call that essentially costed us the game.

[Mash]

Its clear on these boards that some posters have certain agenda's....

I find it funny....

We could just throw up some stickies.....

Jerry hate club, ...Wade hate club, ........RW hate club....Bennett hate club....etc....

;) :D

[Doomsday101]

Wade Phillips still doesn't know the play call!!! (http:// sblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/wade-phillips-still-doesnt-know-play.html)



Somebody was a little hot under the collar this morning on his weekly appearance on 105.3 The Fan and he's letting everyone know how well the offense moved the ball and how well the defense played on Sunday and is still under the impression that the play before the halftime was a Hailmary.

Just listen...

Wade on 105.3 The Fan (http://cbskrld.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/091510_wade_phillips.mp3)

As I clearly pointed out in the video from last night there was never any Hailmary called!!! This man has no freaking clue what was going on at the end of the half!!! And it's Wednesday and he still has no clue!!!

And now he's trying to tell us how great the running game was on Sunday? Well then why the hell did you only run the ball 22 times and pass it 48 times!!!

Here it comes. It's only week one and already this man has me bringing out the 'D' word to describe him. Wade Phillips is a Doofus.

You pointed it out? You know the call that went to the huddle. :lmao2:

You sit there with your little replay and play coach all day and you still do not have a clue as to the play that went in

[zrinkill]

You pointed it out? You know the call that went to the huddle. :lmao2:

You sit there with your little replay and play coach all day and you still do not have a clue as to the play that went in


I have not seen delusions like this in a long time.

DC and Joe really believe they are as good as professionals.

Its like those kids who play Halo think they could really do that in the Military.

Unbelievable.

[Section444]

I have not seen delusions like this in a long time.

DC and Joe really believe they are as good as professionals.

Its like those kids who play Halo think they could really be in the Military.

Unbelievable.
Yeah, how stupid are they? Don't they know that if you want to be in the military you have to play Call of Duty, NOT Halo; stupid kids....

[The Emperor]

I don't think Tony can throw the ball 65+ yards in the air though.

So regardless of what was called, it wasn't going to work regardless.

And not many plays can be run that only take 3 seconds off the clock, especially ones 20-30 yards downfield.

Hell the post to KO in the redzone took like 5 or 6 seconds off the clock.

Semantics or not, it was a bad call that essentially costed us the game.

I know. What's up with that? A) What are we targeting Kevin Ogletree for? And B) why didn't we run a checkdown or something to get us closer to the goal line so we could utilize Romo on a bootleg? I don't understand what world our coaches are operating in sometimes.

[zrinkill]

Yeah, how stupid are they? Don't they know that if you want to be in the military you have to play Call of Duty, NOT Halo; stupid kids....

:lmao2:

[Doomsday101]

I have not seen delusions like this in a long time.

DC and Joe really believe they are as good as professionals.

Its like those kids who play Halo think they could really do that in the Military.

Unbelievable.

I think they are so in love with their own views there is no room for anything else. I do know there were 3 WR lined up to Romo left and 1 WR to his right and alot of pressure coming after him. As to what was called on the sideline and what was being ran at the snap of the ball I can't tell you and I know a clip of the play is not going to tell you what the call was.

[Apollo Creed]

I know. What's up with that? A) What are we targeting Kevin Ogletree for? And B) why didn't we run a checkdown or something to get us closer to the goal line so we could utilize Romo on a bootleg? I don't understand what world our coaches are operating in sometimes.

I guess its like when we threw at Sam Hurd twice against Champ Bailey in a similar situation.

Throw to the guy they are least expecting.

[cowboyjoe]

:laugh2: at the people who are saying this is opinion. Either it was a hail mary or it wasn't. Opinions are irrelevant.

That Wade doesn't know, that Wade and Garrett totally screwed up the last 4 seconds of the first half, that they totally butchered the use of timeouts in the last few minutes, shouldn't surprise anyone. They either lack the knowledge to understand something as simple as the clock, or the conviction to make a decision follow through with it. Wade isn't a leader of men, and lacks the common sense to understand in even the most obvious situation when to call a timeout. This current mess is just a symptom of having these 2 clowns as our co-head coaches.

thats what dc is pointing to i think

like the called timeout from sideline when barber was open for a big run

or when cowboys offense is on the field, and its like 2nd down, no way our defense is going to be on the field, yet wade is talking to defensive people on the headphones, not jason garrett when at first 11 seconds on the field, then when refs say, no redskins are going to take penalty, i think wade has a brain freeze moment or in lala land, and he still isnt talking to jason garrett

i think this is what dc is talking too

[cowboyjoe]

I have not seen delusions like this in a long time.

DC and Joe really believe they are as good as professionals.

Its like those kids who play Halo think they could really do that in the Military.

Unbelievable.

zrinkill, were the great arm chair football experts, dc and myself :D

and yes, i do plaly Halo, Halo 2 alot :D but am i an expert on Halo, no way, i can only get past easy on the level, i get killed all the time if i play above easy level

but that was a good one zrinkill

[Doctor32]

Smells like unneccessary drama. I'll plug my nose on this one.

un·nec·es·sar·ypronounced (ənˈnesəˌserē)
Adjective: Not needed.

[The Emperor]

I guess its like when we threw at Sam Hurd twice against Champ Bailey in a similar situation.

Throw to the guy they are least expecting.

It's one flaw that Romo has. It seems whenever we need to make a clutch play like that, Romo tries to find someone else instead of one of our playmakers.

Why was he throwing to a no-kneecapped Terry Glenn in the divisional playoffs?

Why wasn't Witten targeted against the Stancos?

Why did we throw to Roy Williams and Ogletree on that third and second to last plays?

What I'm saying is when we need the play, let's look for Austin, Witten, and Dez in that order.

[Seven]

While I didn't read the whole thread..............thank God.

[BrAinPaiNt]

While I didn't read the whole thread..............thank God.

Lucky you...But will you still say the same thing a few days later?!?!! :p: :D ;)

[Zimmy Lives]

Would someone, besides me, just starting flaming away so we can get this thread locked?

I have a pony, he takes big ships.

[superpunk]

Smells like unneccessary drama.
Allow me to introduce you to .

http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/watchnow_310.jpg

[Hostile]

I don't think Tony can throw the ball 65+ yards in the air though.

So regardless of what was called, it wasn't going to work regardless.

And not many plays can be run that only take 3 seconds off the clock, especially ones 20-30 yards downfield.

Hell the post to KO in the redzone took like 5 or 6 seconds off the clock.

Semantics or not, it was a bad call that essentially costed us the game.He doesn't have to. You can do a hook and ladder, hope for a PI to set up a FG.

It was an aggressive play that had little hope of succeeding. If it had we'd have all been screaming genius. That we never give up.

It was clearly designed to go deep. You can tell this from Tony's initial drop back. That fell apart and he chose a safety valve option instead.

Chaos ensued, we got screwed, words got rude, and then we booed.

The Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys knows the play call. Our speculation is irrelevant. The fact is we had guys deep and it was a desperation pass designed. That is a hail mary. It has nothing to do with throwing it all the way to the endzone.

[Zimmy Lives]

He doesn't have to. You can do a hook and ladder, hope for a PI to set up a FG.

It was an aggressive play that had little hope of succeeding. If it had we'd have all been screaming genius. That we never give up.

It was clearly designed to go deep. You can tell this from Tony's initial drop back. That fell apart and he chose a safety valve option instead.

Chaos ensued, we got screwed, words got rude, and then we booed.

The Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys knows the play call. Our speculation is irrelevant. The fact is we had guys deep and it was a desperation pass designed. That is a hail mary. It has nothing to do with throwing it all the way to the endzone.

What's a Hail Mary? :D

[Doomsday101]

What's a Hail Mary? :D

Throw the ball up and pray. If you recall the Hail Mary Roger threw to Pearson was not in the endzone and we got a big break when the Minn defender feel down which allowed Pearson to get into the endzone

I also should have said it was still a dumb move by Dallas, they should have taken a knee. If we are talking 4th qrt with 4 seconds left then fine but down 3 nothing going into half there was no need to do this.

[CCBoy]

He doesn't have to. You can do a hook and ladder, hope for a PI to set up a FG.

It was an aggressive play that had little hope of succeeding. If it had we'd have all been screaming genius. That we never give up.

It was clearly designed to go deep. You can tell this from Tony's initial drop back. That fell apart and he chose a safety valve option instead.

Chaos ensued, we got screwed, words got rude, and then we booed.

The Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys knows the play call. Our speculation is irrelevant. The fact is we had guys deep and it was a desperation pass designed. That is a hail mary. It has nothing to do with throwing it all the way to the endzone.

No matter what play selection it was, it still boils down to execution. If Teshard Choice carries the ball high and tight the fumble doesn't happen either.

[BehindEnemyLinez]

By the way, who in the hell cares? It's freaking Wednesday and we're still going on about this crap.
This....

Whooooooo cares!!!! The Bears are up next... Geeez!!!
and this...

I hate to say it DC but the game is over with... Time to focus on Chicago.
what do ya know, this too!
While I didn't read the whole thread..............thank God.
+100!!! I stopped after the 2nd page as I knew where it was headed...

[Hostile]

What's a Hail Mary? :DThe female version of a Hail Caesar.

[Jarv]

The female version of a Hail Caesar.

Its not really and hail Mary unless Roger is in there :)

[Zimmy Lives]

The female version of a Hail Caesar.

:laugh2:

Sorry. This thread has gone beyond the ridiculous and I could not help contributing to it's senselessness.

[Doomsday101]

I know when they got to the line of scrimmage and I saw they did not intend to kneel down on it I know I started saying my Hail Mary's. Hail Mary full of grace please to not let them do this. Just had a real bad feeling about it and sure of enough it happened.

[CCBoy]

I know when they got to the line of scrimmage and I saw they did not intend to kneel down on it I know I started saying my Hail Mary's. Hail Mary full of grace please to not let them do this. Just had a real bad feeling about it and sure of enough it happened.

Darned Murphy's Law....:eek:

[Hostile]

:laugh2:

Sorry. This thread has gone beyond the ridiculous and I could not help contributing to it's senselessness.I suddenly want a Caesar salad.

[Zimmy Lives]

I suddenly want a Caesar salad.

And I need to go say a few Hail Marys for this week's game with Da Bears.

[ConcordCowboy]

What's a Hail Mary? :D

This is a Hail Mary!

http://www.ibat.org/files/images/hailmary.jpg

[Zimmy Lives]

This is a Hail Mary!

http://www.ibat.org/files/images/hailmary.jpg (http://www.ibat.org/files/images/hailmary.jpg)

I know, I was there.

My dad used to work for Braniff and was in charge of the team plane so he got some perks. We went to the game -- it was awesome!

Ture story.

[ConcordCowboy]

I know, I was there.

My dad used to work for Braniff and was in charge of the team plane so he got some perks. We went to the game -- it was awesome!

Ture story.

Cool...what a game to go to.

[cowboyjoe]

This is a Hail Mary!

http://www.ibat.org/files/images/hailmary.jpg

ive got that picture with drew pearsons autograph :D

signed drew pearson # 88

[cowboyjoe]

oh dc, i just saw the 4 second at end of game, one wr was running deep, but curled into sideline at the 30

so one wr did run about 40 yards deep,the other wrs from what i could tell ran not as deep and sideline route looked like

so was going deep, but like you said also, playbook said the wrs werent busting their butt

[dcfanatic]

I am in a great mood today!! Got a show tonight with Vela and Hos. We will talk 90% about the Bears I promise.

My last hurrah on this issue and I promise I am not coming back in this thread ever again.

Let's use logic.

The ball was at the 46 yard line with 11 seconds left.

Are the Cowboys going to throw a Hailmary at that point?

No, they are going to try and get to the Skins 35 for a long FG attempt.

They call a play to attain those yards.

They run the play and Romo throws it out of bounds towards Dez on the sideline. Barron gets the holding call. Move it back 10 yards (to the 36) and take 7 seconds off the clock.

Did they just run the same play again? Yes. How do I know this?

Because Wade told us so. And that's what Garrett said to him at some point.

Listen to Wade on Monday...

Wade says they ran the same play (http://app.quickblogcast.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/wade_sameplay.mp3)

So if all of you believing that Wade is correct that this was a Hailmary then you have to then accept that Jason Garrett called a Hailmary from the 46 yard line with 11 seconds left.

Really? Garrett calls some stupid plays. But he's not that stupid folks.

On to the Bears.

[Hostile]

I am in a great mood today!! Got a show tonight with Vela and Hos. We will talk 90% about the Bears I promise.Hey DC. I can't be on tonight. I will be in a meeting for a charity that I do volunteer work for. I am sorry. I will catch the podcast, but I can't be on the air. The meeting starts right when your show does.

[superpunk]

Hey DC. I can't be on tonight. I will be in a meeting for a charity that I do volunteer work for. I am sorry. I will catch the podcast, but I can't be on the air. The meeting starts right when your show does.
Possible rift developing between Hostile and ? As always, we can learn more from what Hostile didn't say, than what he said. Stay tuned for further developments.

[Dave_in-NC]

I am in a great mood today!! Got a show tonight with Vela and Hos. We will talk 90% about the Bears I promise.

My last hurrah on this issue and I promise I am not coming back in this thread ever again.

Let's use logic.

The ball was at the 46 yard line with 11 seconds left.

Are the Cowboys going to throw a Hailmary at that point?

No, they are going to try and get to the Skins 35 for a long FG attempt.

They call a play to attain those yards.

They run the play and Romo throws it out of bounds towards Dez on the sideline. Barron gets the holding call. Move it back 10 yards (to the 36) and take 7 seconds off the clock.

Did they just run the same play again? Yes. How do I know this?

Because Wade told us so. And that's what Garrett said to him at some point.

Listen to Wade on Monday...

Wade says they ran the same play (http://app.quickblogcast.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/wade_sameplay.mp3)

So if all of you believing that Wade is correct that this was a Hailmary then you have to then accept that Jason Garrett called a Hailmary from the 46 yard line with 11 seconds left.

Really? Garrett calls some stupid plays. But he's not that stupid folks.

On to the Bears.

Gee there's a twist to this thread.

[Hostile]

Possible rift developing between Hostile and ? As always, we can learn more from what Hostile didn't say, than what he said. Stay tuned for further developments.Don't ask me about our relationship. I will ignore you.

[superpunk]

Don't ask me about our relationship. I will ignore you.

For instance, you did not deny that you were avoiding dcf so that you could go to a charity even for pre-op trannies, so I will just assume that is what happening.

[zrinkill]

Possible rift developing between Hostile and ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/dm_090127_nfl_werder_steelers.jpg

[Hostile]

For instance, you did not deny that you were avoiding dcf so that you could go to a charity even for pre-op trannies, so I will just assume that is what happening. ? He ain't worth a ****.

I love him.

Everyone was on my *** to build this forum so I had to go get him. To sell jerseys and we could get this forum.

Tim Tebow couldn't even make this team.

[dcfanatic]

? He ain't worth a ****.

I love him.

Everyone was on my *** to build this forum so I had to go get him. To sell jerseys and we could get this forum.

Tim Tebow couldn't even make this team.

I lied and I'm back. Someone wanted that audio clip so I came in to get the URL.

Ok. Will just go with Raf. Might have Broaddus.

I love you too brother.

[theogt]

Well, this got weird.

[Mash]

Our we sure there wasnt a 20 yard slant? :rolleyes:

[Hostile]

I lied and I'm back. Someone wanted that audio clip so I came in to get the URL.

Ok. Will just go with Raf. Might have Broaddus.

I love you too brother.I will catch the podcast. I have to be at this meeting. Thanks for understanding and for rolling with the joke above.

[Section444]

Well, this got weird.
And kind of homoerotic.

[Hostile]

Well, this got weird.

And kind of homoerotic.I am ashamed of you both. How can you miss the references to Garrett ignoring Watkins asking him about his relationship with Wade and drunk Jerry.

Shut up and go hang your heads in shame. Both of you.

[theogt]

I am ashamed of you both. How can you miss the references to Garrett ignoring Watkins asking him about his relationship with Wade and drunk Jerry.

Shut up and go hang your heads in shame. Both of you.No, I got that. I don't think DCF did, which made his reply .... awkward.

[Hostile]

No, I got that. I don't think DCF did, which made his reply .... awkward.You saved me theo. You reached down into the depths and you pulled me up from the pit of despair. My hope in you is restored. You saved me.

[Bob Sacamano]

theo, did you go to sleep last night? Or have you stayed up all day in this thread?

[Dave_in-NC]

I am ashamed of you both. How can you miss the references to Garrett ignoring Watkins asking him about his relationship with Wade and drunk Jerry.

Shut up and go hang your heads in shame. Both of you.

I didn't get it but I got it now but I knew some thing was there to get. But I didn't get it until just now.