View Full Version : Jones: Hensen starts in 2005, "in the right situation"!
AMERICAS_FAN
02-18-2005, 11:31 AM
Jones: Hensen starts in 2005, "in the right situation"! --- I got this quote from today's story on DallasCowboys.com.
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In that story Jones is also qouted as saying:
"I'm very encouraged [of Henson's continued development]...He's throwing the ball extremely well out here and has been for the last month. Our coach that's working with him has been real impressed with how hard and how conscientiously he's working, so certainly I think it would be just wrong to say that Drew doesn't have a chance to play this year."
"I think that the work that Drew and (Tony) Romo will get out here this spring, the work going into training camp, the work they'll get in training camp, the work they'll get in preseason games, I think all of those things will really improve them. At this stage of their development, just a little can really tell you a lot and make a lot of difference."
"I know if you look at most quarterback situations and really study it, you'll see that it takes a lot longer than usually a couple of seasons in the NFL to get where you want them to go (noting New England's Tom Brady an exception to the rule). The question is, do you have to start that journey sometime and do you lose the fort trying to get there? I don't believe that's the case.
Jones also claims to be on the same page with Parcells: "We are on board, yes," Jones said of himself and Parcells on the quarterback. "Certainly. . . under certain circumstances, I think the young quarterback can play here next year."
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So In summary, Jones is encouraged about Hensen's continued development and feels that the snaps he'll get this offseason can help improve him more. And because you have to start the young guy sometime, why not now, especially if he continues to improve from now through camp and preseason. That's likely what Jones means by starting Hensen in 2005 "in the right situation". Also, perhaps having a vetran here for insurance may not be as big an issue as we think, based on Jones' comments that he doesn't believe we "lose the fort" by playing Hensen sooner than later.
Your thoughts?
AF
Portland Fanatic
02-18-2005, 11:41 AM
Jones: Hensen starts in 2005, "in the right situation"! --- I got this quote from today's story on DallasCowboys.com.
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In that story Jones is also qouted as saying:
"I'm very encouraged [of Henson's continued development]...He's throwing the ball extremely well out here and has been for the last month. Our coach that's working with him has been real impressed with how hard and how conscientiously he's working, so certainly I think it would be just wrong to say that Drew doesn't have a chance to play this year."
"I think that the work that Drew and (Tony) Romo will get out here this spring, the work going into training camp, the work they'll get in training camp, the work they'll get in preseason games, I think all of those things will really improve them. At this stage of their development, just a little can really tell you a lot and make a lot of difference."
"I know if you look at most quarterback situations and really study it, you'll see that it takes a lot longer than usually a couple of seasons in the NFL to get where you want them to go (noting New England's Tom Brady an exception to the rule). The question is, do you have to start that journey sometime and do you lose the fort trying to get there? I don't believe that's the case.
Jones also claims to be on the same page with Parcells: "We are on board, yes," Jones said of himself and Parcells on the quarterback. "Certainly. . . under certain circumstances, I think the young quarterback can play here next year."
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So In summary, Jones is encouraged about Hensen's continued development and feels that the snaps he'll get this offseason can help improve him more. And because you have to start the young guy sometime, why not now, especially if he continues to improve from now through camp and preseason. That's likely what Jones means by starting Hensen in 2005 "in the right situation". Also, perhaps having a vetran here for insurance may not be as big an issue as we think, based on Jones' comments that he doesn't believe we "lose the fort" by playing Hensen sooner than later.
Your thoughts?
AF
My thoughts....YES YES and YES. This is why signing Bledsoe and literally annoiting him the starter before he gets here is crazy...
ghst187
02-18-2005, 11:56 AM
I don't think throwing the ball, accuracy, velocity, or arm strength have ever been an issue with Henson. Handling the blitz (the incessant iggle blitzes esp), hot reads, adjusting to the speed of the NFL, complex coverages, disguised defensive schemes, showing poise, and leadership are more likely issues that all young QBs have to deal with and more likely the areas Drew will have to show improvement before he can play at this level. If a guy couldn't throw the ball, he's pretty unlikely to be in the league...unless your name is Quincy and a lame-brain owner is doing the drafting.
LA=Pancakemaker
02-18-2005, 12:03 PM
in the right situation
Now what would that be? If he goes out in pre-season and lights it up?
Thats the only way , or if Billy gets hit on the head with a cynder block on the way to Valley Ranch?
boysfanindc
02-18-2005, 12:06 PM
I guess this is this were I get a little confused with all the hype about bringing in Bledsoe.
Obviously it seems to make sense to me to have a veteran QB in the mix next season.
But there is a middle ground between just giving Bledsoe or Henson the job prior to even hitting spring practice.
In order to bring Bledsoe in I don't not believe you have to tell him, hey Drew B. you will abolutely start this season as the starter no and if's or but's. You can not play as well as Henson and you are going to start anyway.
I believe you can say, look Drew your odds at starting here are pretty good, because of Henson's inexperience.
BUT, Drew B. the best player in camp and in pre season is going to start for the Dallas Cowboys!
How could he or anyone else argue with this fact, you have a shot at earning a starting spot based on play like any of the other guys.
Why does this arguement have to be so black and white.
Asklesko
02-18-2005, 12:07 PM
in the right situation = one half on thanksgiving?
DWAREZ
02-18-2005, 12:12 PM
in the right situation = one half on thanksgiving?
Drew Gives us the best chance to win :)
Portland Fanatic
02-18-2005, 12:15 PM
I guess this is this were I get a little confused with all the hype about bringing in Bledsoe.
Obviously it seems to make sense to me to have a veteran QB in the mix next season.
But there is a middle ground between just giving Bledsoe or Henson the job prior to even hitting spring practice.
In order to bring Bledsoe in I don't not believe you have to tell him, hey Drew B. you will abolutely start this season as the starter no and if's or but's. You can not play as well as Henson and you are going to start anyway.
I believe you can say, look Drew your odds at starting here are pretty good, because of Henson's inexperience.
BUT, Drew B. the best player in camp and in pre season is going to start for the Dallas Cowboys!
How could he or anyone else argue with this fact, you have a shot at earning a starting spot based on play like any of the other guys.
Why does this arguement have to be so black and white.
Do you really think the competition will be FAIR and truely wide open? Honetstly...
Doomsday101
02-18-2005, 12:16 PM
Do you really think the competition will be FAIR and truely wide open? Honetstly...
I do because I don't buy into the Parcells guy thing, I think Bill will play the best players he has and it will be up to Henson to show he can do the job.
I believe it is fair. I just don't think Henson is ready. Why everyone seems to think that he is, I don't know. I don't think letting him get beat up is the answer either. Why is it that everyone feels they know more than BP when he sees him every day
boysfanindc
02-18-2005, 12:21 PM
Do you really think the competition will be FAIR and truely wide open? Honetstly...
To believe otherwise, you have to believe the BP is more concerned about his agenda then he is in winning football games.
BP can be arrogant and makes mistakes like anyone else, but I have a hard time believing that BP (who has invested 3 years into this thing) is more concerned about his agenda then winning football games.
Why would he come back and go through all this sh** if he was not motivated to win games.
Just does not pass the smell test.
This is more about other people's agend's then BP's.
If people are really into conspiracy theories go watch X files rerun's.
And for those who say bringing in Bledsoe automatically means BP has no confidence in Henson. It is called BEING PREPARE having a CONTINGENCY PLAN!
Fan Since 77
02-18-2005, 12:26 PM
To believe otherwise, you have to believe the BP is more concerned about his agenda then he is in winning football games.
Or you could say that he's equally concerned about both, and he's willing to use one(his agenda) to help him win football games.
Portland Fanatic
02-18-2005, 12:27 PM
To believe otherwise, you have to believe the BP is more concerned about his agenda then he is in winning football games.
BP can be arrogant and makes mistakes like anyone else, but I have a hard time believing that BP (who has invested 3 years into this thing) is more concerned about his agenda then winning football games.
Why would he come back and go through all this sh** if he was not motivated to win games.
Just does not pass the smell test.
This more about other people's agend's then BP's.
I do not question Bill's wanting to win now philosophy for one second...he proved that last year. He truely wants to win every single game...I love that too.
What makes me nervous is he will be here two more years...and maybe Bledsoe can win more games in that time frame then Henson...maybe not, but when I'm sitting on my couch in 2007 and we still have a major QB issue with no end in sight...I do not want that!
Let's be honest...if Henson sits on the bench until 2007...well by then forget it..his window will be shut IMO. At that point we are looking at drafting a QB for the future.
Chocolate Lab
02-18-2005, 12:30 PM
I guess this is this were I get a little confused with all the hype about bringing in Bledsoe.
Obviously it seems to make sense to me to have a veteran QB in the mix next season.
But there is a middle ground between just giving Bledsoe or Henson the job prior to even hitting spring practice.
In order to bring Bledsoe in I don't not believe you have to tell him, hey Drew B. you will abolutely start this season as the starter no and if's or but's.
But that's exactly what Bledsoe said he would have to be told, or else he'd take his ball and go home to the Pacific Northwest.
That's the only reservation I have about bringing in Bledsoe. Otherwise, I think he'd be a perfect short-term starter/backup.
boysfanindc
02-18-2005, 12:31 PM
Or you could say that he's equally concerned about both, and he's willing to use one(his agenda) to help him win football games.
If he decides he can win with one, then who cares.
This is his job, decide and coach up the guys he believes he can win games with.
DId he make a lot of mistakes last year, IMO he did. I would be more worried about does he still have it in todays game then I would about some master agenda he supposedly has.
boysfanindc
02-18-2005, 12:33 PM
But that's exactly what Bledsoe said he would have to be told, or else he'd take his ball and go home to the Pacific Northwest.
That's the only reservation I have about bringing in Bledsoe. Otherwise, I think he'd be a perfect short-term starter/backup.
It's called negotiation IMO, ask for everything so you can get what you can live with.
boysfanindc
02-18-2005, 12:37 PM
I do not question Bill's wanting to win now philosophy for one second...he proved that last year. He truely wants to win every single game...I love that too.
What makes me nervous is he will be here two more years...and maybe Bledsoe can win more games in that time frame then Henson...maybe not, but when I'm sitting on my couch in 2007 and we still have a major QB issue with no end in sight...I do not want that!
Let's be honest...if Henson sits on the bench until 2007...well by then forget it..his window will be shut IMO. At that point we are looking at drafting a QB for the future.
I see your point, but I guess I don't think Henson has to start next year (if Bledsoe out plays him) or all of a sudden he never has a chance to become our QB.
If he has it (which I believe you can 90% figure out in practice and the pre season) he will play at some point.
But bottom line in my opionion it is a judgement call not a conspiracy.
boysfanindc
02-18-2005, 12:47 PM
in the right situation = one half on thanksgiving?
The reason Henson played was because VT was hurt, no one said it was the right situation.
T-New41
02-18-2005, 01:06 PM
I have high hopes for Henson, as I am sure we all do. I take what Jerry says as a sign of hope, though I am sure others can (rightfully so) take it as smoke and mirrors.
If he can be our man, the future will look brighter with one less position to worry about. It would be wonderful to ba able to fill the other voids and not have to worry about the QB position.
Hopefully we can build dominant offensive and defensive lines again, which were a hallmark of our team during the superbowl runs. Even with Aikman, Smith, and Irvin (3 of the greatest players during the time period) we never got back to another superbowl after 1995.
Portland Fanatic
02-18-2005, 01:07 PM
I see your point, but I guess I don't think Henson has to start next year (if Bledsoe out plays him) or all of a sudden he never has a chance to become our QB.
If he has it (which I believe you can 90% figure out in practice and the pre season) he will play at some point.
But bottom line in my opionion it is a judgement call not a conspiracy.I'm certainly not saying conspiracy...In Bills mind Bledsoe would give him the best chance to win before he gets here. that's just my opinion...
I guess I should go on record to say that I'm truely not against Bledsoe coming here if in fact the competition is fair. Noone has heard me say Bledsoe is all washed up or a statue or he sux...I don't believe that at all. I think if he does become the starter that he really can be effective under Bill. I do think he a has a few more years to be solid...I honestly believe that.
My ISSUE is looking long term. I am sick and tired of the rotating QB issue we have developed here in Dallas. My hell noone can go out and buy a jersey with a Dallas QB number on it because that guy most likely will not be here next year. I more then anything else would like to say...we have JJ as our RB...Witten as TE...Henson as QB...Keys and Glenn as WR's...and that we are a threat to be reconed with for the long term...not just an average 8-8 goal with rotating QB's.
Maybe what I wish for is unrealistic, but I truely would like to think our QB will be here for a few years....
Is that wrong???
boysfanindc
02-18-2005, 01:15 PM
I'm certainly not saying conspiracy...In Bills mind Bledsoe would give him the best chance to win before he gets here. that's just my opinion...
I guess I should go on record to say that I'm truely not against Bledsoe coming here if in fact the competition is fair. Noone has heard me say Bledsoe is all washed up or a statue or he sux...I don't believe that at all. I think if he does become the starter that he really can be effective under Bill. I do think he a has a few more years to be solid...I honestly believe that.
My ISSUE is looking long term. I am sick and tired of the rotating QB issue we have developed here in Dallas. My hell noone can go out and buy a jersey with a Dallas QB number on it because that guy most likely will not be here next year. I more then anything else would like to say...we have JJ as our RB...Witten as TE...Henson as QB...Keys and Glenn as WR's...and that we are a threat to be reconed with for the long term...not just an average 8-8 goal with rotating QB's.
Maybe what I wish for is unrealistic, but I truely would like to think our QB will be here for a few years....
Is that wrong???
Was not targeting the conspiracy theory at you.
But it has been stated alot around here.
I have heard everything from BP was planted here by the Giants so he could mess our franchise up to BP is more concerned about his agenda then winning etc etc.
We can all disagree with some or a lot of the judgment calls that BP has made or will make. But IMHO BP is trying to do what is in the best interest of the cowboys which is to win.
Portland Fanatic
02-18-2005, 01:19 PM
Was not targeting the conspiracy theory at you.
But it has been stated alot around here.
I have heard everything from BP was planted here by the Giants so he could mess our franchise up to BP is more concerned about his agenda then winning etc etc.
We can all disagree with some or a lot of the judgment calls that BP has made or will make. But IMHO BP is trying to do what is in the best interest of the cowboys which is to win.
I know...
I agree that he is trying to do what's best...I truely do..
CowboyManDan
02-18-2005, 02:32 PM
I'm certainly not saying conspiracy...In Bills mind Bledsoe would give him the best chance to win before he gets here. that's just my opinion...
I guess I should go on record to say that I'm truely not against Bledsoe coming here if in fact the competition is fair. Noone has heard me say Bledsoe is all washed up or a statue or he sux...I don't believe that at all. I think if he does become the starter that he really can be effective under Bill. I do think he a has a few more years to be solid...I honestly believe that.
My ISSUE is looking long term. I am sick and tired of the rotating QB issue we have developed here in Dallas. My hell noone can go out and buy a jersey with a Dallas QB number on it because that guy most likely will not be here next year. I more then anything else would like to say...we have JJ as our RB...Witten as TE...Henson as QB...Keys and Glenn as WR's...and that we are a threat to be reconed with for the long term...not just an average 8-8 goal with rotating QB's.
Maybe what I wish for is unrealistic, but I truely would like to think our QB will be here for a few years....
Is that wrong???
Not wrong at all. It's my wish too and IMO the better way to build a team.
speedkilz88
02-18-2005, 03:03 PM
Right Situation = Surrounding him with better protection, weapons, and running game, to give him the best chance of success. ie, Roethisberger.
Fletch
02-18-2005, 03:04 PM
I believe it is fair. I just don't think Henson is ready. Why everyone seems to think that he is, I don't know. I don't think letting him get beat up is the answer either. Why is it that everyone feels they know more than BP when he sees him every day
Same can be said for all those who think that Drew isn't ready. Nobody knows. He very well could be ready to play in 2005. Growing pains. Yes, there will be some growing pains. But mentally and physically ready to go out and play, sure, why not?
speedkilz88
02-18-2005, 03:13 PM
Who is Hensen?:)
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