Wiley Will Be Cut [Archive] - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Portland Fanatic

02-18-2005, 06:29 PM

Adam Schefter on NFL Access reported the Dallas has indeed informed Wiley he will be released!! Good!! :)
That just made my weekend....OK..they really are getting serious. yeah baby!

THEHEREAFTER

02-18-2005, 06:29 PM

Adam Schefter on NFL Access reported the Dallas has indeed informed Wiley he will be released!! Good!! :)

Wonderful! Thanks for nothing!... His gripe was that he was brought here to be a pass rusher but he was consistently replaced on obvious pass rush situations.. but he still didn't provide enough when he was given opportunity

Portland Fanatic

02-18-2005, 06:31 PM

Next question...what is the cap hit on Wiley...does it give us more?

Jon88

02-18-2005, 06:33 PM

Wonderful! Thanks for nothing!... His gripe was that he was brought here to be a pass rusher but he was consistently replaced on obvious pass rush situations.. but he still didn't provide enough when he was given opportunity

If he could have actually rushed the passer, he never would have been taken out. The guy was atrocious...worse than Shante' and Kavika.

TDHND

02-18-2005, 06:44 PM

This showed that just because it may look like a good pickup it doesn't always mean it is.

EveryoneElse

02-18-2005, 06:46 PM

Portland Fanatic

02-18-2005, 06:48 PM

Dat Dude pimpmoble is heading outta town...see ya!!! lol

AsthmaField

02-18-2005, 06:50 PM

I agree that Wiley was garbage last year.

Was that a result of his ability or the style of defense we play?

I may be wrong, but didn't Wiley thrive in the 3-4 early in his career? If we do swith, could he have helped us?

Answer to question #1: ability.

Answer to question #2: I don't think so... I think it was a 4-3. I may be wrong.

Answer to question #3: absolutely not. Stick a fork in him... he's done.

JackMagist

02-18-2005, 06:59 PM

I agree that Wiley was garbage last year.

Was that a result of his ability or the style of defense we play?

I may be wrong, but didn't Wiley thrive in the 3-4 early in his career? If we do swith, could he have helped us?
Answer #1: The answer to that is not known at this point. It could be a combination of both and I think it is. His ability may have degenerated but our style of defense is not DE friendly as far as sacks go. Maybe how he plays with his next team will tell the tale.

Answer #2: I believe that the Bills were still playing a 3-4 when he wasw with them early in his career and he did well in it.

Answer #3: Whether or not he can still help us in a 3-4 defense will depend on the truth of answer #1.

dragon_mikal

02-18-2005, 07:06 PM

I swear to God that if he goes somewhere else and racks up 8 to 10 sacks I will be extremely upset with Jones for keeping that retard of a defensive coordinator. I'm willing to give him one more year to see if he can improve this thing because Wiley was indeed horrible, but seeing Ekuban go to Cleveland and rack up a decent number of sacks just bothers me.

AdamJT13

02-18-2005, 07:15 PM

Next question...what is the cap hit on Wiley...does it give us more?
It saves us $250,000 of cap room. Instead of counting $3.625 million, he'll count $3.375 million in dead money.

Juke99

02-18-2005, 07:19 PM

One of the worst signings this team has ever made...

Some guys, if you watch them, have the physical skills but they just don't equate to performance on the field...in a sense, Ekuban was like that...he was quick...he was strong...he was athletic...and he did zilch...

Wiley was a different story...from the first time I watched him, I was shocked at how lacking his physical skills were...he's slow...he's VERY unathletic...he'd get blown off the line on running plays...heck, he came her to be a pass rusher and was removed in passing situations..

Good riddance...

Juke99

02-18-2005, 07:20 PM

It saves us $250,000 of cap room. Instead of counting $3.625 million, he'll count $3.375 million in dead money.

Thanks Adam...

Uh.....OUCH...

What the heck...penny wise dollar foolish...we didn't want to ante up for Berry...Wiley was a really bad signing...

Time to move on....

ConcordCowboy

02-18-2005, 07:23 PM

Got to honest....I never thought Wiley would be looking for a job after one year!

It's the Curse of Haley! :D

MichaelWinicki

02-18-2005, 07:32 PM

Adam Schefter on NFL Access reported the Dallas has indeed informed Wiley he will be released!! Good!! :)

Very good really.

Asklesko

02-18-2005, 07:33 PM

Wiley will sign somewhere next year for minimum salary and will pull an Ekuban. I just know it.

ddh33

02-18-2005, 07:35 PM

Pretty bad that Dallas is that desperate to get rid of him. Now, I guess we can all start looking for his replacement. My hunch is you'll have to find it in the draft though.

Cbz40

02-18-2005, 07:45 PM

Good by Mr Wiley and the best of luck to ya. ;)

Juke99

02-18-2005, 07:48 PM

Wiley will sign somewhere next year for minimum salary and will pull an Ekuban. I just know it.

I don't think so...he really doesn't have the physical tools...Ekuban's physical tools were much better than Wiley's...he just never converted them into impact on the field...

Wiley was slow...cumbersome...weak at the point of attack...his physical skills are awful.

Alexander

02-18-2005, 07:50 PM

It saves us $250,000 of cap room. Instead of counting $3.625 million, he'll count $3.375 million in dead money.

Lordy.

Nearly 3.4 million. That kind of money could buy a good placekicker or even a backup some place.

I wonder which genius determined he was a good signing.

Jerry or Bill?

Juke99

02-18-2005, 07:53 PM

Lordy.

Nearly 3.4 million. That kind of money could buy a good placekicker or even a backup some place.

I wonder which genius determined he was a good signing.

Jerry or Bill?

Ya know, the screwy thing is...I'd be a lot happier if when I saw the guy play, I thought "Hey, he looks pretty good" and I turned out to be wrong...as always happens with me...heck, I thought Hutch looked pretty good...

But I remember seeing Wiley in his first game and thinking "Uh Oh...this guy is AWFUL"

I can't see what they saw in him...at all.

Then again, I can't see what they saw in Eddie George either...but I think Wiley was by FAR a worse signing than George who was a one year bandaid.

MichaelWinicki

02-18-2005, 07:55 PM

I don't think so...he really doesn't have the physical tools...Ekuban's physical tools were much better than Wiley's...he just never converted them into impact on the field...

Wiley was slow...cumbersome...weak at the point of attack...his physical skills are awful.

All true.

Juke99

02-18-2005, 07:57 PM

All true.

I still, for the life of me, can't figure out what ANYONE saw in Wiley...I could make a much better case for Eddie George...and I hated seeing him in a Cowboy uniform...

Cbz40

02-18-2005, 07:58 PM

Ya know, the screwy thing is...I'd be a lot happier if when I saw the guy play, I thought "Hey, he looks pretty good" and I turned out to be wrong...as always happens with me...heck, I thought Hutch looked pretty good...

But I remember seeing Wiley in his first game and thinking "Uh Oh...this guy is AWFUL"

I can't see what they saw in him...at all.

Then again, I can't see what they saw in Eddie George either...but I think Wiley was by FAR a worse signing than George who was a one year bandaid.

That's the biggest bunch of Hog Wash. :D .......................but it's true....all of it.

MichaelWinicki

02-18-2005, 07:59 PM

I still, for the life of me, can't figure out what ANYONE saw in Wiley...I could make a much better case for Eddie George...and I hated seeing him in a Cowboy uniform...

Agreed. I seen him in his best years at Buffalo and he'd get the occasional sack but his abililty to play the run was average at best... even then.

Alexander

02-18-2005, 08:00 PM

I can't see what they saw in him...at all.
They had to watch his tape from 2001.

Wiley has been awful since.

Juke99

02-18-2005, 08:01 PM

That's the biggest bunch of Hog Wash. :D .......................but it's true....all of it.

Hey Santiago...maybe as a going away gift you could churn out a batch of your delicious Pea Salad....that'll fix his posterior!

Juke99

02-18-2005, 08:02 PM

Agreed. I seen him in his best years at Buffalo and he'd get the occasional sack but his abililty to play the run was average at best... even then.

Well yeah but that's when he was slipping and sliding around on all that ice and snow...in September. :)

Actually, I forgot that you had the chance to see him...often...just like uh, Bledsoe...

Probably with about the same opinion of both.

Cbz40

02-18-2005, 08:05 PM

Hey Santiago...maybe as a going away gift you could churn out a batch of your delicious Pea Salad....that'll fix his posterior!

I'll add a special ingredient just for him........Guaroonteeee it will get his posterior in geer........if you know what I mean.

DallasCowpoke111

02-18-2005, 08:09 PM

Adam Schefter on NFL Access reported the Dallas has indeed informed Wiley he will be released!! Good!!

Spaghetti thrown against the wall theory here.

Toss a bunch of “rumors heard” up, then when 2 or 3 stick, you can point to that at your next contract negotiation and go, “hey, look at how inside I AM!!”

Juke99

02-18-2005, 08:09 PM

I'll add a special ingredient just for him........Guaroonteeee it will get his posterior in geer........if you know what I mean.

:)

Well maybe in that case you should have sent him a batch with the special ingredient after his first game...

Cbz40

02-18-2005, 08:15 PM

:)

Well maybe in that case you should have sent him a batch with the special ingredient after his first game...

No it would not have helped his football skills.. :eek: Gauwwd What the heck did I just say ,football skills, forget it.

That batch will only help expedite his exit from Valley Ranch

Juke99

02-18-2005, 08:18 PM

No it would not have helped his football skills.. :eek: Gauwwd What the heck did I just say ,football skills, forget it.

That batch will only help expedite his exit from Valley Ranch

Self contradictory..

Marcellus Wiley/football skills.

I'd have said "Oxymoron" but Winicki would have seen the word "moron" and been insulted. :)

Cbz40

02-18-2005, 08:21 PM

Self contradictory..

Marcellus Wiley/football skills.

I'd have said "Oxymoron" but Winicki would have seen the word "moron" and been insulted. :)

We must be very carefull when Winicki is within hearing distance. ;)

The30YardSlant

02-18-2005, 10:52 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the best news since Washington was bought by Dan Snyder :cool:

jobberone

02-18-2005, 10:58 PM

Wiley's signing shows how desperate Dallas is to get a pass rush. Of course the continued signing of former baseball players to play QB shows how desperate Dallas is to get a QB.

Think I'll have another beer.

DWAREZ

02-18-2005, 11:04 PM

Spaghetti thrown against the wall theory here.

Toss a bunch of “rumors heard” up, then when 2 or 3 stick, you can point to that at your next contract negotiation and go, “hey, look at how inside I AM!!”
Huh ??

SuspectCorner

02-18-2005, 11:10 PM

Huh ??
your sig is great. thanks.

junk

02-18-2005, 11:12 PM

your sig is great. thanks.

No doubt, I watched that for a solid 30 seconds and laughed.

DWAREZ

02-18-2005, 11:31 PM

No doubt, I watched that for a solid 30 seconds and laughed.
Hope you like!! ;)

Portland Fanatic

02-18-2005, 11:44 PM

Hope you like!! ;)
Bledsoe comes here how many times will we see this??? lol

DWAREZ

02-18-2005, 11:47 PM

Bledsoe comes here how many times will we see this??? lol
Alot!! LOL

Bluefin

02-18-2005, 11:49 PM

Even if the guy was only speculating, Wiley getting released would seem to be the best bet to take.

And while the Cowboys didn't do Dat Dude any favors by promising he could play left end and then moving him to the right side near the end of camp, the bottom line is Wiley was so suspect he didn't even stay on the field for obvious passing downs.

Turn the page.

Can it get any worse or have we finally hit rock bottom at pass rushing end?

MichaelWinicki

02-19-2005, 06:51 AM

Self contradictory..

Marcellus Wiley/football skills.

I'd have said "Oxymoron" but Winicki would have seen the word "moron" and been insulted. :)

No, I would have been "offended"... get it right! :D

That's it! I'm sending you a nasty PM!

lcharles

02-19-2005, 08:35 AM

Dat Dude Cut? :clap: :gent: :bow: :bounce:

Time to move on. Hopefully get someone with talent.

Juke99

02-19-2005, 08:38 AM

Dat Dude Cut? :clap: :gent: :bow: :bounce:

Time to move on. Hopefully get someone with talent.

OK...I'm gonna go way out on a limb...you're happy about this?

:)

Makes two of us....makes several of us...makes almost all of us...

nathanlt

02-19-2005, 08:57 AM

Adam Schefter on NFL Access reported the Dallas has indeed informed Wiley he will be released!! Good!! :)

I would like to point out that I had serious concerns over Wiley on July 14, 2004, 8:24 pm.

Roy Crushes Competition in Cayman Challenge

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Did anyone else see this? He was on the team opposite of Marcellus Wiley, and they won or tied every event. The only thing that concerns me is that Wiley showed fatigue quite a few times, I'm sure he's going to get teased, and might get a little extra attention in training camp. It's somewhat entertaining, and if nothing else, it shows that Roy is a playmaker.

Did anyone else remember that Cayman Challenge last year?