How do you like Don Banks SI Draft for the Cowboys?

[ConcordCowboy]

Mock NFL Draft #1
Pick Team Pos. Player College Class Ht. Wt.
1 QB Aaron Rodgers California Jr. 6-2 215
With no quarterback in this draft judged to be worth No. 1 overall value, the 49ers would be better off to trade down and acquire a package of picks. But with who? If the 49ers stay put, give them the local kid with great accuracy.
2 RB Cedric Benson Texas Sr. 6-0 215
We're assuming that Nick Saban is going to stick with A.J. Feeley as his starting quarterback. We're assuming that Miami won't make a deal with Buffalo for running back Travis Henry. We're assuming a lot at this point.
3 QB Alex Smith Utah Jr. 6-4 212
With Jeff Garcia slated to be released shortly, the Browns have to consider Smith. But they'd love to trade out of this lofty spot. If they pass on Smith, Florida State offensive tackle Alex Barron would be a reach who fills a need.
4 WR Braylon Edwards Michigan Sr. 6-3 206
The Bears lack a playmaker at receiver, and Edwards fits the bill nicely, providing good value for this slot. He has better size and speed than former No. 1 David Terrell, and he's the consensus pick as this draft's top receiver.
5 RB Carnell Williams Auburn Sr. 5-11 204
The Bucs have so many other needs (OT, DT, DB), but with Charlie Garner aging and injury prone, and Michael Pittman probably not the long-term answer, Jon Gruden might take the back he coached at the Senior Bowl.
6 OT Alex Barron Florida State Sr. 6-6 308
The Titans again face cap restraints this offseason. With RT Fred Miller due a $5 million March 1 signing bonus and LT Brad Hopkins 35 in early September, Barron would allow them to replenish at a key position.
7 DE Dan Cody Oklahoma Sr. 6-5 265
Cody would fit the hybrid 3-4 the Raiders prefer, and he's their kind of high-motor guy. He did not distinguish himself in the Orange Bowl, but what Sooner did? Auburn RB Ronnie Brown also makes sense here.
8 RB Ronnie Brown Auburn Sr. 6-1 224
The Cardinals would do handstands all the way up to the podium if Brown is still available. With Emmitt Smith retired and Dennis Green not in love with Marcel Shipp, the versatile Brown is a no-brainer.
9 CB Adam Jones West Virginia Jr. 5-10 190
With Champ Bailey leaving last year and Fred Smoot possibly following him out the door via free agency, the Redskins gladly would pick up the draft's high-rated cornerback. Jones is small, but he's fast and plays big.
10 CB Antrel Rolle Miami Sr. 6-1 202
The Lions have invested their past four No. 1 picks on offense, so it's time to think defense. Rolle is a big, athletic, physical cover man who plays run defense, too. Thus, some have him as more of a safety in the NFL.
11 DE Erasmus James Wisconsin Sr. 6-4 263
The Cowboys' defense slumped badly in 2004, and nobody was a bigger disappointment than newly acquired defensive end Marcellus Wiley. James has some injury concerns, but teams willingly take chances on pass rushers.
12 WR Mike Williams USC Jr. 6-5 230
Despite his unexpected one-year hiatus, Williams still is only 21. He's a big, sure-handed receiver in the Michael Irvin mold, and the Chargers need help at receiver, with Keenan McCardell being their dependale wideout.
13 LB Derrick Johnson Texas Sr. 6-4 235
The Texans won't be able to pass on this home-state star. He's an impact player who can chase the ball all over the field, and he's versatile enough to play in different spots in Houston's 3-4 scheme. Could be a steal if he lasts.
14 WR Troy Williamson South Carolina Jr. 6-2 200
This pick is predicated on the Panthers not being able to resign receiver Muhsin Muhammad, who had a monster season after No. 1 receiver Steve Smith was lost for the season. Williamson is the draft's fastest pass-catcher.
15 DE Marcus Spears LSU Sr. 6-4 298
Spears helped himself quite a bit with a strong week at the Senior Bowl, and what team needs more help on defense than the bedraggled Chiefs? Vonnie Holliday hasn't done much since K.C. spent in free agency for him in 2003.
16 S Thomas Davis Georgia Jr. 6-1 230
The Saints might be tempted to look at one of the best remaining defensive linemen, but they've spent heavily there in recent drafts. Davis is a hard-hitting safety who plays like a linebacker, and might be one in the NFL.

Pick Team Pos. Player College Class Ht. Wt.
17 DT Travis Johnson Florida State Sr. 6-5 292
Run defense was the bane of the Bengals' existence last season, so an upgrade in the middle of the line is mandatory. With Tony Williams a free agent, Johnson is a solid mid-first-round pick who can penetrate the backfield.
18 DT Anttaj Hawthorne Wisconsin Sr. 6-3 305
The Vikings need a run-stuffing nose tackle who can play alongside DT Kevin Williams and soak up lots of double-team blocks. Hawthorne can generate pressure and hold the point, making him a nice fit for the Purple.
19 OT Jammal Brown Oklahoma Sr. 6-6 313
You might have heard that the Kyle Turley acquisition didn't work out so well last season, what with him and the head coach wanting to kill each other and all. With right tackle still a problem, Brown is the layup choice.
20 DE/OLB Shawne Merriman Maryland Jr. 6-4 250
Merriman is a "tweener" prospect, but he has great athleticism and some pass-rush skills. Dallas may be able to move him around as it dabbles more with a 3-4 scheme. Cornerback Carlos Rogers is another possibility.
21 DE David Pollack Georgia Sr. 6-3 276
The Jaguars' troubles at defensive end last season were well-documented. In Pollack, they get a player who lacks something in terms of size and speed, but makes up for it with great effort, strength and instincts.
22 WR Roddy White UAB Sr. 6-2 205
News flash: The Ravens need a big-play receiver. If Baltimore doesn't win the Randy Moss trade sweepstakes, it's a darn good bet it will spend its first-rounder on one. It should come down to White or Oklahoma's Mark Clayton.
23 DE Matt Roth Iowa Sr. 6-4 270
Another case where defense is a team's obvious need. Roth would give Seattle the pass-rusher it lacked at times last season, when all those fourth-quarter leads were going up in smoke. His intensity is Grant Wistrom-like.
24 CB Carlos Rogers Auburn Sr. 6-1 194
Can the Packers take another corner if they spent a No. 1 (Ahmad Carroll) and a No. 3(Joey Thomas) pick on the position last season? Did you see Carroll play last year? The position remains a need, and Rogers will be tempting.
25 DE/DT Shaun Cody USC Sr. 6-4 295
The Broncos must upgrade their defensive line, and they'll consider themselves fortunate if Cody falls to them. He can generate pass rush from the outside and slow down the run when he's lined up inside.
26 CB Brandon Browner Oregon State Jr. 6-4 202
It's a deep year for cornerbacks, and the Jets could be well-situated to land the position's fourth-best prospect. Browner would upgrade David Barrett's side of the field in pass defense if he runs as well as expected this spring.
27 WR Mark Clayton Oklahoma Sr. 5-11 187
Clayton put on a great show at the Senior Bowl and lifted himself into the first round. If he gets past Baltimore at No. 22, the Falcons should snap him up. Michael Vick could use a No. 1 receiver -- Peerless Price hasn't gotten it done.
28 S Brodney Pool Oklahoma Jr. 6-3 208
Pool makes its four Sooners in the first round. (How did they get blown out by USC?) With safety Jerry Wilson headed for free agency, and a first-round receiver already taken at No. 12, Pool would add a playmaking element to the secondary.
29 CB Bryant McFadden Florida State Sr. 6-0 186
The Colts aren't going to get past the powers that be in the AFC until they upgrade at cornerback. McFadden had a quality Senior Bowl and has the size that NFL scouts look for. Clemson's Justin Miller is another option.
30 TE Heath Miller Virginia Jr. 6-5 255
This might end up being ridiculously low for Miller, who is far and away the class of the tight end crop. With the way teams throw to tight ends these days, some believe the smooth and athletic Miller could crack the top 15.
31 WR Reggie Brown Georgia Sr. 6-1 195
Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell are simply not enough of a threat to keep folks off No. 1 receiver Terrell Owens. Brown turned a few heads with a good week at the Senior Bowl, and he has nice size and reliable hands.
32 CB Justin Miller Clemson Jr. 5-11 201
The round might include as many as six or seven cornerbacks, and that's great news for the Patriots, who could bid farewell to both Ty Law and Tyrone Poole. Another possibility is LSU cornerback Corey Webster.

[JackMagist]

I'd be ok with that first round I guess but I think their positions will be reversed. I don't think Merriman will be there at 20 but I think James will. Still, I'm a little concerned about James since he is not a 3-4 OLB type and he is smallish for DE in either system and there are the injury concerns. I wouldn't slit my wrist over this one but I wouldn't be throwing a party to celebrate either.

[MichaelWinicki]

2 DE's (essentially) in the first round? Nope.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Question for you draft gurus..... Is this guy Demarcus Ware the real deal? Watching NFL Total access... their draft expert has him rated as the premier pass rusher in the draft..? Is Merriman head and shoulders a better prospect than ware?

[AsthmaField]

Doesn't make sense.

He has us taking a 4-3 end in James. I dont think he could translate into a 3-4 OLB... he just doesn't have quite the movement skills for it.

Then, Banks has us taking Merriman, a 3-4 OLB or perhaps a 4-3 end. I think he's best suited to a 3-4 OLB.

So if we stay 4-3, then we have James at DE and Merriman at DE too? What about Ellis? We could play Merriman at OLB in a 4-3, but he isn't quick enough for that and frankly, it would be a waste of his talent.

If we go 3-4, Merriman would be great as an OLB, but what would we do with James? Make him an OLB? Like I said, I don't think he's cut out for that. James is way to small for a 3-4 DE. He's a mismatch for that defense.

So, I think it would be crazy to take James and Merriman in the first round. You need to pick a defense (4-3 or 3-4) and take players for that... not take one for each.

[ConcordCowboy]

2 DE's (essentially) in the first round? Nope.


I agree just say no!

[Juke99]

2 DE's (essentially) in the first round? Nope.


Agreed...and if Mike Williams is on the board, I want him.

[MichaelWinicki]

Agreed...and if Mike Williams is on the board, I want him.


I agree.

Give me the best available...

DE or DT or CB or WR

[CowboyManDan]

Agreed...and if Mike Williams is on the board, I want him.

Yea, if we passed on Williams, I'd pass out...

[Asklesko]

I don't like it. I don't like it at all. We need a receiver.

[dbair1967]

Mock NFL Draft #1
Pick Team Pos. Player College Class Ht. Wt.
1 QB Aaron Rodgers California Jr. 6-2 215
With no quarterback in this draft judged to be worth No. 1 overall value, the 49ers would be better off to trade down and acquire a package of picks. But with who? If the 49ers stay put, give them the local kid with great accuracy.
2 RB Cedric Benson Texas Sr. 6-0 215
We're assuming that Nick Saban is going to stick with A.J. Feeley as his starting quarterback. We're assuming that Miami won't make a deal with Buffalo for running back Travis Henry. We're assuming a lot at this point.
3 QB Alex Smith Utah Jr. 6-4 212
With Jeff Garcia slated to be released shortly, the Browns have to consider Smith. But they'd love to trade out of this lofty spot. If they pass on Smith, Florida State offensive tackle Alex Barron would be a reach who fills a need.
4 WR Braylon Edwards Michigan Sr. 6-3 206
The Bears lack a playmaker at receiver, and Edwards fits the bill nicely, providing good value for this slot. He has better size and speed than former No. 1 David Terrell, and he's the consensus pick as this draft's top receiver.
5 RB Carnell Williams Auburn Sr. 5-11 204
The Bucs have so many other needs (OT, DT, DB), but with Charlie Garner aging and injury prone, and Michael Pittman probably not the long-term answer, Jon Gruden might take the back he coached at the Senior Bowl.
6 OT Alex Barron Florida State Sr. 6-6 308
The Titans again face cap restraints this offseason. With RT Fred Miller due a $5 million March 1 signing bonus and LT Brad Hopkins 35 in early September, Barron would allow them to replenish at a key position.
7 DE Dan Cody Oklahoma Sr. 6-5 265
Cody would fit the hybrid 3-4 the Raiders prefer, and he's their kind of high-motor guy. He did not distinguish himself in the Orange Bowl, but what Sooner did? Auburn RB Ronnie Brown also makes sense here.
8 RB Ronnie Brown Auburn Sr. 6-1 224
The Cardinals would do handstands all the way up to the podium if Brown is still available. With Emmitt Smith retired and Dennis Green not in love with Marcel Shipp, the versatile Brown is a no-brainer.
9 CB Adam Jones West Virginia Jr. 5-10 190
With Champ Bailey leaving last year and Fred Smoot possibly following him out the door via free agency, the Redskins gladly would pick up the draft's high-rated cornerback. Jones is small, but he's fast and plays big.
10 CB Antrel Rolle Miami Sr. 6-1 202
The Lions have invested their past four No. 1 picks on offense, so it's time to think defense. Rolle is a big, athletic, physical cover man who plays run defense, too. Thus, some have him as more of a safety in the NFL.
11 DE Erasmus James Wisconsin Sr. 6-4 263
The Cowboys' defense slumped badly in 2004, and nobody was a bigger disappointment than newly acquired defensive end Marcellus Wiley. James has some injury concerns, but teams willingly take chances on pass rushers.
12 WR Mike Williams USC Jr. 6-5 230
Despite his unexpected one-year hiatus, Williams still is only 21. He's a big, sure-handed receiver in the Michael Irvin mold, and the Chargers need help at receiver, with Keenan McCardell being their dependale wideout.
13 LB Derrick Johnson Texas Sr. 6-4 235
The Texans won't be able to pass on this home-state star. He's an impact player who can chase the ball all over the field, and he's versatile enough to play in different spots in Houston's 3-4 scheme. Could be a steal if he lasts.
14 WR Troy Williamson South Carolina Jr. 6-2 200
This pick is predicated on the Panthers not being able to resign receiver Muhsin Muhammad, who had a monster season after No. 1 receiver Steve Smith was lost for the season. Williamson is the draft's fastest pass-catcher.
15 DE Marcus Spears LSU Sr. 6-4 298
Spears helped himself quite a bit with a strong week at the Senior Bowl, and what team needs more help on defense than the bedraggled Chiefs? Vonnie Holliday hasn't done much since K.C. spent in free agency for him in 2003.
16 S Thomas Davis Georgia Jr. 6-1 230
The Saints might be tempted to look at one of the best remaining defensive linemen, but they've spent heavily there in recent drafts. Davis is a hard-hitting safety who plays like a linebacker, and might be one in the NFL.

Pick Team Pos. Player College Class Ht. Wt.
17 DT Travis Johnson Florida State Sr. 6-5 292
Run defense was the bane of the Bengals' existence last season, so an upgrade in the middle of the line is mandatory. With Tony Williams a free agent, Johnson is a solid mid-first-round pick who can penetrate the backfield.
18 DT Anttaj Hawthorne Wisconsin Sr. 6-3 305
The Vikings need a run-stuffing nose tackle who can play alongside DT Kevin Williams and soak up lots of double-team blocks. Hawthorne can generate pressure and hold the point, making him a nice fit for the Purple.
19 OT Jammal Brown Oklahoma Sr. 6-6 313
You might have heard that the Kyle Turley acquisition didn't work out so well last season, what with him and the head coach wanting to kill each other and all. With right tackle still a problem, Brown is the layup choice.
20 DE/OLB Shawne Merriman Maryland Jr. 6-4 250
Merriman is a "tweener" prospect, but he has great athleticism and some pass-rush skills. Dallas may be able to move him around as it dabbles more with a 3-4 scheme. Cornerback Carlos Rogers is another possibility.
21 DE David Pollack Georgia Sr. 6-3 276
The Jaguars' troubles at defensive end last season were well-documented. In Pollack, they get a player who lacks something in terms of size and speed, but makes up for it with great effort, strength and instincts.
22 WR Roddy White UAB Sr. 6-2 205
News flash: The Ravens need a big-play receiver. If Baltimore doesn't win the Randy Moss trade sweepstakes, it's a darn good bet it will spend its first-rounder on one. It should come down to White or Oklahoma's Mark Clayton.
23 DE Matt Roth Iowa Sr. 6-4 270
Another case where defense is a team's obvious need. Roth would give Seattle the pass-rusher it lacked at times last season, when all those fourth-quarter leads were going up in smoke. His intensity is Grant Wistrom-like.
24 CB Carlos Rogers Auburn Sr. 6-1 194
Can the Packers take another corner if they spent a No. 1 (Ahmad Carroll) and a No. 3(Joey Thomas) pick on the position last season? Did you see Carroll play last year? The position remains a need, and Rogers will be tempting.
25 DE/DT Shaun Cody USC Sr. 6-4 295
The Broncos must upgrade their defensive line, and they'll consider themselves fortunate if Cody falls to them. He can generate pass rush from the outside and slow down the run when he's lined up inside.
26 CB Brandon Browner Oregon State Jr. 6-4 202
It's a deep year for cornerbacks, and the Jets could be well-situated to land the position's fourth-best prospect. Browner would upgrade David Barrett's side of the field in pass defense if he runs as well as expected this spring.
27 WR Mark Clayton Oklahoma Sr. 5-11 187
Clayton put on a great show at the Senior Bowl and lifted himself into the first round. If he gets past Baltimore at No. 22, the Falcons should snap him up. Michael Vick could use a No. 1 receiver -- Peerless Price hasn't gotten it done.
28 S Brodney Pool Oklahoma Jr. 6-3 208
Pool makes its four Sooners in the first round. (How did they get blown out by USC?) With safety Jerry Wilson headed for free agency, and a first-round receiver already taken at No. 12, Pool would add a playmaking element to the secondary.
29 CB Bryant McFadden Florida State Sr. 6-0 186
The Colts aren't going to get past the powers that be in the AFC until they upgrade at cornerback. McFadden had a quality Senior Bowl and has the size that NFL scouts look for. Clemson's Justin Miller is another option.
30 TE Heath Miller Virginia Jr. 6-5 255
This might end up being ridiculously low for Miller, who is far and away the class of the tight end crop. With the way teams throw to tight ends these days, some believe the smooth and athletic Miller could crack the top 15.
31 WR Reggie Brown Georgia Sr. 6-1 195
Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell are simply not enough of a threat to keep folks off No. 1 receiver Terrell Owens. Brown turned a few heads with a good week at the Senior Bowl, and he has nice size and reliable hands.
32 CB Justin Miller Clemson Jr. 5-11 201
The round might include as many as six or seven cornerbacks, and that's great news for the Patriots, who could bid farewell to both Ty Law and Tyrone Poole. Another possibility is LSU cornerback Corey Webster.

I hate it...no way I'm taking Erasmus James in the 1st rd, not with his history and not with what I saw in the bowl game

David

[MichaelWinicki]

I hate it...no way I'm taking Erasmus James in the 1st rd, not with his history and not with what I saw in the bowl game

David


You betcha... he has "First Round Bust" written all over him.

[DallasCowpoke111]

This time of year, you can find any "expert" whose draft fits any scenario one may deem credible.

To answer the initial thread question, "How do I like so-and-so's draft??" About the same way I feel about the $25 steak dinner I'm enticed into buying at the local "hip restaurant of the month," If it chews easily, and doesn't give me heartburn the next day, I figure I'm ahead of the game.

[VA Cowboy]

James at 11 would be bad enough.

Taking James instead of Mike Williams or Derrick Johnson should get someone fired.

[Cbz40]

James at 11 would be bad enough.

Taking James instead of Mike Williams or Derrick Johnson should get someone fired.


or shot...OOPS...I apologize

[Hostile]

If we have a choice between Mike Williams AND Derrick Johnson, and pass on both, I think I'll need bail money and Jerry and Bill will need a restraining order.


Good players, but that draft doesn't make much sense.

[dragon_mikal]

Mike Williams will not fall to 11 and, IMHO, neither will Derrick Johnson.

[SALADIN]

I'll take it. Even though I think Merriman won't be there in the 20's.

[Skip]

get ill! :ralph:

[Fan Since 77]

Mike Williams will not fall to 11 and, IMHO, neither will Derrick Johnson.

Yeah unfortunately those two will be gone. Just curious which one you'd take if both were available. I would take D.J. because I think he provides an immediate impact more than any player on draft day.

[ghst187]

James at 11 would be bad enough.

Taking James instead of Mike Williams or Derrick Johnson should get someone fired.

TRUE DAT!!!!

James....reminds me of Shante Carver.....

Mike Williams is the "dude"....DJ isn't a bad take either but after MW, I prefer Merriman because of his versatility. He can play speed rushing DE or LB. So if we go to the 3-4 or transition to and fro...he'll still be an impacting player...even if we stay in a 4-3 he may be that edge rusher we need. DJ is going to be limited to playing OLB period. He's a great athlete and playmaker but the fact that teams run right at and over him, concerns me greatly.
Merriman falling to 20 would be an absolute steal.

[Rack Bauer]

2 DE's (essentially) in the first round? Nope.


1 DE and 1 LB. Or 2 LBs in a 3-4. That would definitely take care of your pass rush problem. I like it.

[Dough Boy]

1 DE and 1 LB. Or 2 LBs in a 3-4. That would definitely take care of your pass rush problem. I like it.

Exactly. I like it with a twist. Based on this draft, we could have Spears and Merriman.

As for as the two DE's in round one, it would not be the first time Parcells took two DE in round one.

[dragon_mikal]

Yeah unfortunately those two will be gone. Just curious which one you'd take if both were available. I would take D.J. because I think he provides an immediate impact more than any player on draft day.

I would take Johnson as well and for the same reason as you. He is something we seriously lack on defense...a playmaker.

[Roughneck]

James at 11 would be bad enough.

Taking James instead of Mike Williams or Derrick Johnson should get someone fired.Truer words may have never been spoken on CowboysZone.

[AsthmaField]

1 DE and 1 LB. Or 2 LBs in a 3-4. That would definitely take care of your pass rush problem. I like it.


You think James could play OLB in a 3-4? I don't think he has the quickness to do it. He'd be fine on the straight ahead pass rush, but IMO, that's all he'd be able to do.

Merriman can play OLB, but James would be a stretch, I think.

[SuspectCorner]

james makes me nervous at #11. it's a gut feeling. i'd love to see the cowboys land BOTH marcus spears and justin tuck in this draft. move spears inside and run tuck off the edge. i think they'd have the passrush from hell.

[SuspectCorner]

and one other thing. is it obvious i'm not sold on the 3-4? smart teams play to their strengths. copycats... well... copy. we aren't the patriots. let's not kid ourselves. some 3-4 looks are a good idea, too. but we aren't bloody likely to succeed as a 3-4 base after a single offseason. too much turnover of existing personnel (some of which are darn good in the 4-3 but may be ill-suited to a 3-4) is required.
we have won more superbowls than 30 other teams. we won ALL of them with a 4-3 base defense. the only other team to win as many? yup. all with the 4-3. 3-4? it's no "magic panacea". just draft good DEs - like other teams do and have done consistently. then cut them loose on the QB. isn't it easier than revamping the whole D fer chrissake?
%$#@ the "flavor of the day". let's patch up OUR defense. we don't need, nor have the time, to copy somebody elses. JMO

[Bluefin]

If we have a choice between Mike Williams AND Derrick Johnson, and pass on both, I think I'll need bail money and Jerry and Bill will need a restraining order.
Make that the undertaker. http://perso.wanadoo.fr/c.a.m.d/derniers_smileys_07-03/spooky2/Death_Emoticon.gif

Mike Williams is a force of nature at receiver with super sticky hands. Some worry he might be too big for the position and need to become a H-back.

I don't.

And I'm always in the mood to adda monster wideout.

Derrick Johnson would seem like a great fit at WLB in our present 4-3, but i don't know if he'll get big enough to remain on the outside if we indeed switch to the 3-4.


1 DE and 1 LB. Or 2 LBs in a 3-4. That would definitely take care of your pass rush problem. I like it.
I've come to the point where I don't care if the pass rusher is best suited for the 4-3 or the 3-4.

I want a pass rush.

If the boof can sniff out the quarterback, I'm confident we can find a place for him on the field.

Even if the player isn't viewed as a run defender right off the bat (bite me, Zimmer), just having a devout pass rusher for obvious passing downs is better than not having one at all, IMO.

And if we get the chance to add two such players on the first day of the draft this April?

Do it and smile.

[MichaelWinicki]

1 DE and 1 LB. Or 2 LBs in a 3-4. That would definitely take care of your pass rush problem. I like it.

Rack, how do you know it would?

You want the whole list all over again of guys we've either drafted or signed as free agents to correct the infamous pass-rush problem?

You're assuming both of these guys can. To me James has big time "first round bust" written all over him. The Maryland guy? He isn't exactly Terrell Suggs coming out of college.

[Hostile]

Make that the undertaker. http://perso.wanadoo.fr/c.a.m.d/derniers_smileys_07-03/spooky2/Death_Emoticon.gif

Mike Williams is a force of nature at receiver with super sticky hands. Some worry he might be too big for the position and need to become a H-back.

I don't.

And I'm always in the mood to adda monster wideout.

Derrick Johnson would seem like a great fit at WLB in our present 4-3, but i don't know if he'll get big enough to remain on the outside if we indeed switch to the 3-4.I remain unconvinced we are switching to a 3-4. Last time I remembered we were going to hear a definite answer "next week." That was over 2 weeks ago. That says to me that a set plan on how to do it has not been found. The reason is obvious to me...personnel.

[dbair1967]

I remain unconvincd we are switching to a 3-4. Last time I remembered we were going to hear a definite answer "next week." That was over 2 weeks ago. That says to me that a set plan on how to do it has not been found. The reason is obvious to me...personnel.

I agree Hos...I think they are really scratching their heads over it...wouldnt surprise me at all if we're still in the 4-3 next yr, although no matter what scheme we play we need some upgrades to the front 7

David

[Alexander]

I agree Hos...I think they are really scratching their heads over it...wouldnt surprise me at all if we're still in the 4-3 next yr, although no matter what scheme we play we need some upgrades to the front 7

David
I think they know exactly what they want to do, but depending upon how free agency works out, we will act accordingly. If we cannot get some quality tackles and a few LBers, we will probably stick with what we have.

I don't see any reason to tip the hand now.

[Hostile]

I agree Hos...I think they are really scratching their heads over it...wouldnt surprise me at all if we're still in the 4-3 next yr, although no matter what scheme we play we need some upgrades to the front 7

DavidI defy anyone to tell me we can't build a strong 4-3 defense. No one can honestly tell me that it cannot be done. I think some are opposed to it because it woud mean Zimmer stays. He's staying either way folks. Take a look at which coaches have been dismissed and his name has not been among the targets. At least not in the media. There has to be a reason why Bill and Jerry tried to talk him out of taking the Nebraska job.

I do not automatically assume he can't coach a 3-4. I do not automatically assume we can't build a 3-4 scheme. No one is going to convince me we can do by adding 3 or 4 players. No way, no shape, no how. We will need 8 to 10 changes on defense alone in order to even be effective.

Do we simply ignore the stagnant offense just to implement a scheme?

I don't buy it.

[dbair1967]

I defy anyone to tell me we can't build a strong 4-3 defense. No one can honestly tell me that it cannot be done. I think some are opposed to it because it woud mean Zimmer stays. He's staying either way folks. Take a look at which coaches have been dismissed and his name has not been among the targets. At least not in the media. There has to be a reason why Bill and Jerry tried to talk him out of taking the Nebraska job.

I do not automatically assume he can't coach a 3-4. I do not automatically assume we can't build a 3-4 scheme. No one is going to convince me we can do by adding 3 or 4 players. No way, no shape, no how. We will need 8 to 10 changes on defense alone in order to even be effective.

Do we simply ignore the stagnant offense just to implement a scheme?

I don't buy it.

I dont think we need 8-10 changes to switch to the 3-4 but we would need to change alot...

as for the stagnant offense, I think by adding a quality RT (or a LT and move Flo to RT), maybe drafting a bigtime WR (M Williams or Edwards, or maybe sign a Jerry Porter) and developing Henson at QB we'd be more than ok...on the other hand if Parcells does as I anticipate and wastes another season on a has been like Bledsoe or Vinny, we probably wont see much improvement on offense no matter what other changes we make. Julius Jones is gonna be a star though. 1600-1800 yds and 15-20 tds is not unrealistic if he stays healthy.

we're alot further away on defense than offense IMO...Zimmer is a huge handicap on defense no matter what scheme we run. We also need help at DE, DT, OLB, CB and FS, regardless of what scheme we run.

David

[jimmy40]

If we have a choice between Mike Williams AND Derrick Johnson, and pass on both, I think I'll need bail money and Jerry and Bill will need a restraining order.


Good players, but that draft doesn't make much sense.Don't worry Hos, you're safe, I'll get to Dallas before you will. :D

[Hostile]

Don't worry Hos, you're safe, I'll get to Dallas before you will. :DYou know Jimmy, whichever of us gets there first the other needs to bring bail money.

[Hostile]

I dont think we need 8-10 changes to switch to the 3-4 but we would need to change alot...

as for the stagnant offense, I think by adding a quality RT (or a LT and move Flo to RT), maybe drafting a bigtime WR (M Williams or Edwards, or maybe sign a Jerry Porter) and developing Henson at QB we'd be more than ok...on the other hand if Parcells does as I anticipate and wastes another season on a has been like Bledsoe or Vinny, we probably wont see much improvement on offense no matter what other changes we make. Julius Jones is gonna be a star though. 1600-1800 yds and 15-20 tds is not unrealistic if he stays healthy.

we're alot further away on defense than offense IMO...Zimmer is a huge handicap on defense no matter what scheme we run. We also need help at DE, DT, OLB, CB and FS, regardless of what scheme we run.

DavidI do think we would need that many. Let me explain. I am not talking about only starters. When changing an entire philosophy you don't focus solely on starters. If you do what happens when a starter goes down? Suddenly you have a gaping hole.

[CaptainComeback]

Mock NFL Draft #1
Pick Team Pos. Player College Class Ht. Wt.
1 QB Aaron Rodgers California Jr. 6-2 215
With no quarterback in this draft judged to be worth No. 1 overall value, the 49ers would be better off to trade down and acquire a package of picks. But with who? If the 49ers stay put, give them the local kid with great accuracy.
2 RB Cedric Benson Texas Sr. 6-0 215
We're assuming that Nick Saban is going to stick with A.J. Feeley as his starting quarterback. We're assuming that Miami won't make a deal with Buffalo for running back Travis Henry. We're assuming a lot at this point.
3 QB Alex Smith Utah Jr. 6-4 212
With Jeff Garcia slated to be released shortly, the Browns have to consider Smith. But they'd love to trade out of this lofty spot. If they pass on Smith, Florida State offensive tackle Alex Barron would be a reach who fills a need.
4 WR Braylon Edwards Michigan Sr. 6-3 206
The Bears lack a playmaker at receiver, and Edwards fits the bill nicely, providing good value for this slot. He has better size and speed than former No. 1 David Terrell, and he's the consensus pick as this draft's top receiver.
5 RB Carnell Williams Auburn Sr. 5-11 204
The Bucs have so many other needs (OT, DT, DB), but with Charlie Garner aging and injury prone, and Michael Pittman probably not the long-term answer, Jon Gruden might take the back he coached at the Senior Bowl.
6 OT Alex Barron Florida State Sr. 6-6 308
The Titans again face cap restraints this offseason. With RT Fred Miller due a $5 million March 1 signing bonus and LT Brad Hopkins 35 in early September, Barron would allow them to replenish at a key position.
7 DE Dan Cody Oklahoma Sr. 6-5 265
Cody would fit the hybrid 3-4 the Raiders prefer, and he's their kind of high-motor guy. He did not distinguish himself in the Orange Bowl, but what Sooner did? Auburn RB Ronnie Brown also makes sense here.
8 RB Ronnie Brown Auburn Sr. 6-1 224
The Cardinals would do handstands all the way up to the podium if Brown is still available. With Emmitt Smith retired and Dennis Green not in love with Marcel Shipp, the versatile Brown is a no-brainer.
9 CB Adam Jones West Virginia Jr. 5-10 190
With Champ Bailey leaving last year and Fred Smoot possibly following him out the door via free agency, the Redskins gladly would pick up the draft's high-rated cornerback. Jones is small, but he's fast and plays big.
10 CB Antrel Rolle Miami Sr. 6-1 202
The Lions have invested their past four No. 1 picks on offense, so it's time to think defense. Rolle is a big, athletic, physical cover man who plays run defense, too. Thus, some have him as more of a safety in the NFL.
11 DE Erasmus James Wisconsin Sr. 6-4 263
The Cowboys' defense slumped badly in 2004, and nobody was a bigger disappointment than newly acquired defensive end Marcellus Wiley. James has some injury concerns, but teams willingly take chances on pass rushers.
12 WR Mike Williams USC Jr. 6-5 230
Despite his unexpected one-year hiatus, Williams still is only 21. He's a big, sure-handed receiver in the Michael Irvin mold, and the Chargers need help at receiver, with Keenan McCardell being their dependale wideout.
13 LB Derrick Johnson Texas Sr. 6-4 235
The Texans won't be able to pass on this home-state star. He's an impact player who can chase the ball all over the field, and he's versatile enough to play in different spots in Houston's 3-4 scheme. Could be a steal if he lasts.
14 WR Troy Williamson South Carolina Jr. 6-2 200
This pick is predicated on the Panthers not being able to resign receiver Muhsin Muhammad, who had a monster season after No. 1 receiver Steve Smith was lost for the season. Williamson is the draft's fastest pass-catcher.
15 DE Marcus Spears LSU Sr. 6-4 298
Spears helped himself quite a bit with a strong week at the Senior Bowl, and what team needs more help on defense than the bedraggled Chiefs? Vonnie Holliday hasn't done much since K.C. spent in free agency for him in 2003.
16 S Thomas Davis Georgia Jr. 6-1 230
The Saints might be tempted to look at one of the best remaining defensive linemen, but they've spent heavily there in recent drafts. Davis is a hard-hitting safety who plays like a linebacker, and might be one in the NFL.

Pick Team Pos. Player College Class Ht. Wt.
17 DT Travis Johnson Florida State Sr. 6-5 292
Run defense was the bane of the Bengals' existence last season, so an upgrade in the middle of the line is mandatory. With Tony Williams a free agent, Johnson is a solid mid-first-round pick who can penetrate the backfield.
18 DT Anttaj Hawthorne Wisconsin Sr. 6-3 305
The Vikings need a run-stuffing nose tackle who can play alongside DT Kevin Williams and soak up lots of double-team blocks. Hawthorne can generate pressure and hold the point, making him a nice fit for the Purple.
19 OT Jammal Brown Oklahoma Sr. 6-6 313
You might have heard that the Kyle Turley acquisition didn't work out so well last season, what with him and the head coach wanting to kill each other and all. With right tackle still a problem, Brown is the layup choice.
20 DE/OLB Shawne Merriman Maryland Jr. 6-4 250
Merriman is a "tweener" prospect, but he has great athleticism and some pass-rush skills. Dallas may be able to move him around as it dabbles more with a 3-4 scheme. Cornerback Carlos Rogers is another possibility.
21 DE David Pollack Georgia Sr. 6-3 276
The Jaguars' troubles at defensive end last season were well-documented. In Pollack, they get a player who lacks something in terms of size and speed, but makes up for it with great effort, strength and instincts.
22 WR Roddy White UAB Sr. 6-2 205
News flash: The Ravens need a big-play receiver. If Baltimore doesn't win the Randy Moss trade sweepstakes, it's a darn good bet it will spend its first-rounder on one. It should come down to White or Oklahoma's Mark Clayton.
23 DE Matt Roth Iowa Sr. 6-4 270
Another case where defense is a team's obvious need. Roth would give Seattle the pass-rusher it lacked at times last season, when all those fourth-quarter leads were going up in smoke. His intensity is Grant Wistrom-like.
24 CB Carlos Rogers Auburn Sr. 6-1 194
Can the Packers take another corner if they spent a No. 1 (Ahmad Carroll) and a No. 3(Joey Thomas) pick on the position last season? Did you see Carroll play last year? The position remains a need, and Rogers will be tempting.
25 DE/DT Shaun Cody USC Sr. 6-4 295
The Broncos must upgrade their defensive line, and they'll consider themselves fortunate if Cody falls to them. He can generate pass rush from the outside and slow down the run when he's lined up inside.
26 CB Brandon Browner Oregon State Jr. 6-4 202
It's a deep year for cornerbacks, and the Jets could be well-situated to land the position's fourth-best prospect. Browner would upgrade David Barrett's side of the field in pass defense if he runs as well as expected this spring.
27 WR Mark Clayton Oklahoma Sr. 5-11 187
Clayton put on a great show at the Senior Bowl and lifted himself into the first round. If he gets past Baltimore at No. 22, the Falcons should snap him up. Michael Vick could use a No. 1 receiver -- Peerless Price hasn't gotten it done.
28 S Brodney Pool Oklahoma Jr. 6-3 208
Pool makes its four Sooners in the first round. (How did they get blown out by USC?) With safety Jerry Wilson headed for free agency, and a first-round receiver already taken at No. 12, Pool would add a playmaking element to the secondary.
29 CB Bryant McFadden Florida State Sr. 6-0 186
The Colts aren't going to get past the powers that be in the AFC until they upgrade at cornerback. McFadden had a quality Senior Bowl and has the size that NFL scouts look for. Clemson's Justin Miller is another option.
30 TE Heath Miller Virginia Jr. 6-5 255
This might end up being ridiculously low for Miller, who is far and away the class of the tight end crop. With the way teams throw to tight ends these days, some believe the smooth and athletic Miller could crack the top 15.
31 WR Reggie Brown Georgia Sr. 6-1 195
Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell are simply not enough of a threat to keep folks off No. 1 receiver Terrell Owens. Brown turned a few heads with a good week at the Senior Bowl, and he has nice size and reliable hands.
32 CB Justin Miller Clemson Jr. 5-11 201
The round might include as many as six or seven cornerbacks, and that's great news for the Patriots, who could bid farewell to both Ty Law and Tyrone Poole. Another possibility is LSU cornerback Corey Webster.

Great first round. Assuming we get the other things we need elsewhere, that is.

[Waffle]

I defy anyone to tell me we can't build a strong 4-3 defense. No one can honestly tell me that it cannot be done. I think some are opposed to it because it woud mean Zimmer stays. He's staying either way folks. Take a look at which coaches have been dismissed and his name has not been among the targets. At least not in the media. There has to be a reason why Bill and Jerry tried to talk him out of taking the Nebraska job.

I do not automatically assume he can't coach a 3-4. I do not automatically assume we can't build a 3-4 scheme. No one is going to convince me we can do by adding 3 or 4 players. No way, no shape, no how. We will need 8 to 10 changes on defense alone in order to even be effective.

Do we simply ignore the stagnant offense just to implement a scheme?

I don't buy it.
I won't defy!! :)

I think all this 4-3, 3-4 business is purely a smokescreen. I think we'll play more 3-4 than last year, but I'm not totally convinced that we've made a wholesale switch to it just yet. In fact, I think that Bill and Jerry have watched a few of the poker games on TV here lately.

Think about it, if you tell the world "we've switched to a 3-4", then that's going alter the market value of Free Agents and potential draft prospects. It might also affect what another team does in the draft BEFORE Dallas is on the clock.

It's fun to try and predict, but I think all this silence from Valley Ranch and then the "appearance" by Jerry Jones on Friday is all part of an orchestrated plan by Parcells to keep the competition in the dark.

It's that time of year!

[junk]

I do think we would need that many. Let me explain. I am not talking about only starters. When changing an entire philosophy you don't focus solely on starters. If you do what happens when a starter goes down? Suddenly you have a gaping hole.

While I agree it would take more to move to a 3-4 than fix a 4-3, I do think the team has OK depth for a 3-4. Guys like Coleman, Ogbogu, Shanle, Thornton and Fowler are all depth guys that could do well in a 3-4. None of them are very good, but what depth guys are? ILB is thin and NT is really thin though.

I agree on the switch as well. It is really not very smart to decide which defense to run and then try to get the players to do it. See what players you can get and then scheme a defense around the talent that you added.

[Hostile]

While I agree it would take more to move to a 3-4 than fix a 4-3, I do think the team has OK depth for a 3-4. Guys like Coleman, Ogbogu, Shanle, Thornton and Fowler are all depth guys that could do well in a 3-4. None of them are very good, but what depth guys are? ILB is thin and NT is really thin though.

I agree on the switch as well. It is really not very smart to decide which defense to run and then try to get the players to do it. See what players you can get and then scheme a defense around the talent that you added.Okay, I will agree on some of those guys for candidates depth, but now let's talk about how many of them will be changing roles or positions. So, now we have guys who are roster fillers playing out of their natural positions.

Recipe for disaster if you ask me.

[dbair1967]

Okay, I will agree on some of those guys for candidates depth, but now let's talk about how many of them will be changing roles or positions. So, now we have guys who are roster fillers playing out of their natural positions.

Recipe for disaster if you ask me.

gotta agree with Junk on this one...we have some backup types who would seem to be good fits for roles in either scheme...some of our backup guys might actually be better fits for the 3-4 anyway

I think we only need a couple or three additions to run either scheme effectively...

David

[Big Country]

I'm still tripping out that Cedric Benson is a number 2 overall RB... Man this is one talent poor draft compared to recent years.

[Big Country]

I defy anyone to tell me we can't build a strong 4-3 defense. No one can honestly tell me that it cannot be done. I think some are opposed to it because it woud mean Zimmer stays. He's staying either way folks. Take a look at which coaches have been dismissed and his name has not been among the targets. At least not in the media. There has to be a reason why Bill and Jerry tried to talk him out of taking the Nebraska job.

I do not automatically assume he can't coach a 3-4. I do not automatically assume we can't build a 3-4 scheme. No one is going to convince me we can do by adding 3 or 4 players. No way, no shape, no how. We will need 8 to 10 changes on defense alone in order to even be effective.

Do we simply ignore the stagnant offense just to implement a scheme?

I don't buy it.
I still say that Dallas is closer to being an awesome 4-3 defense than a good 3-4 defense. With who they have in place right now... They could get a guy at each defensive level and they would be able to improve remarkably.

Imagine if they get a nose tackle, a speed rusher, a big linebacker, and a top flight free agent cornerback or safety... All of those are out there for next season...

I think they get defensive backfield help from free agency as well as defensive tackle... I think they get help for pass rusher from the draft. IMHO

[junk]

Okay, I will agree on some of those guys for candidates depth, but now let's talk about how many of them will be changing roles or positions. So, now we have guys who are roster fillers playing out of their natural positions.

Recipe for disaster if you ask me.

I really do think Kalen Thornton, Ogbogu and Shanle are better suited to a 3-4. Kenyon Coleman could be a great 3-4 end (and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him play some 4-3 tackle this year)

However, I do agree that it will take more players to field a good 3-4 than a good 4-3. And a bad 3-4 makes me think of Atlanta and Oakland.

Bottom line: A scheme won't win you any more games unless you have talented players to run it.