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dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 07:28 PM
Broaddus: The Film Don't Lie on GAC today (http:// sblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/broaddus-film-dont-lie-on-gac-today.html)



Great stuff from Bryan Broaddus on Galloway and Company today. You are going to hear some things about Dez in here that are not all that flattering, but let's remember that he's a rookie still and in time he's going to need to learn how to be a professional...

Broaddus on GAC - Sep 21st (http://app.quickblogcast.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/broaddus_sep21.mp3)

It's something we all know already. This team is just so undisciplined and when they do win games they are doing so because they were able to overcome their mistakes.

And I am not saying they should be perfect. But on both sides of the ball most of these guys have been in these systems for a few years now. Both Garrett and Wade have been in place since 2007 so there is no excuses about guys learning new systems and guys having to adjust.

This secondary was doing the same nonsense at times over the last three seasons. Some guys don't know the coverage presnap or they don't get the check into another coverage. Then Brooking and Bradie aren't in tune on the Olsen TD. Sensabaugh screws up on the long pass to Knox.

All of this stuff just screams one word - SLOPPY.

You need to do the little things in these games to win. And if you don't then you find yourself losing by seven at home to a team who isn't as talented on paper.

On Dez. Don't be fooled into the talk from Ray Sherman that Dez was all in the playbook while he was rehabbing. I was hearing things about him not being all that attentive in the meetings while in camp.

But like I said earlier he's a rookie. No one comes into this league and is right away doing things like a 10 year veteran. As long as he has people around him making sure he's accountable when he screws up I think he's going to be fine.

On the other hand if the coaches just give him a pass because he's the first round draft pick then in time you are going to see him on the field continuing to look a little lost a times.

burmafrd
09-21-2010, 07:33 PM
How many people said that Hamlins role as QB of the secondary was not important?

percyhoward
09-21-2010, 07:41 PM
This is just the before the interception on the throw to Witten that Broaddus described as being "totally early, way early."

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/445983/Bears7_medium.png

Boyzmamacita
09-21-2010, 07:44 PM
How many people said that Hamlins role as QB of the secondary was not important?
How many people were glad to see Hamlin leave? Careful what you wish for, I guess. Tight ends running wide open for long touchdowns must end. Too many easy scores for Chicago. And I don't think they're that talented.

Dave_in-NC
09-21-2010, 07:44 PM
How many people said that Hamlins role as QB of the secondary was not important?


That's a pretty good point.

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 07:45 PM
How many people said that Hamlins role as QB of the secondary was not important?

The same problems were there when he was playing FS.

I have to think it's a combo. The players and coaches get frazzled during games. And they can't think on their feet when the pressure comes.

This problem has been around since Wade arrived. I thought maybe it was on Brian Stewart, but it's still around now.

theogt
09-21-2010, 07:46 PM
This is just the before the interception on the throw to Witten that Broaddus described as being "totally early, way early."Another image.

Obviously a terrible throw and entirely too early. LOL.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7913/1234ng.png

theogt
09-21-2010, 07:50 PM
How many people said that Hamlins role as QB of the secondary was not important?

How many people were glad to see Hamlin leave? Careful what you wish for, I guess. Tight ends running wide open for long touchdowns must end. Too many easy scores for Chicago. And I don't think they're that talented.

That's a pretty good point.Wait........what?

It's like those people that wanted to replace Kosier for years. Then every time he's out, people are scrambling to get him back in.

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 07:54 PM
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Aikman even calls it. Throws it with 'great anticipation' - meaning he throws it before Witten even gets his head around giving him no time to adjust.

I love how Theo jumps in here now to try and take a shot at Broaddus.

:laugh1:

Why even come in here if you have an agenda now Theo?

:laugh1:

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 07:56 PM
Another image.

Obviously a terrible throw and entirely too early. LOL.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7913/1234ng.png (http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7913/1234ng.png)

Yeah, now watch the video. Ball is on him as soon as he turns around and it hits him in the shoulder.

:laugh2:

And please tell us the secondary was never confused with Hamlin back there.

:laugh2:

ShiningStar
09-21-2010, 07:56 PM
I think Dez is ahead of where he should be. I dont care who you are, i dont care your talent, i dont even care your draft position, you cannot describe the speed of the game to the rookies. It cant be done. You have to be on the field to realize it and he even said he needed that first game to get the jitters out and get a feel for the game.

If our coaches or Tony trust him to be on the field, we're both desperate (and until Roy was playing better people thought we were) or hes that good and no one wants to hold him back for no reason.

I will take Rays handling of the WR"s any day of the week over the medias thoughts or film. He did great work with Miles and even from MU I didnt think Miles was going to be Miles. And Ray believed in him and now a UDFA rookie is doing good things in the NFL. Our offensive coordinator is holdiing him back, but Miles could be putting up a heck of a year right now if someone unleashed our QB.

ShiningStar
09-21-2010, 07:58 PM
Yeah, now watch the video. Ball is on him as soon as he turns around and it hits him in the shoulder.

:laugh2:

And please tell us the secondary was never confused with Hamlin back there.

:laugh2:




I dont think theos wrong on this point. you are doing your thing of making yourself look bad, but Theo is right on this point. There were lots of peopel who wanted Kosier and Hamlin gone from the get go. Even now our defense would be better off with Hamlin and if he got other players directed maybe a couple plays wouldnt have gone off as they did.

Hindsight is 20/20 and you are playing the card like film backs you up, but the film doesnt tell the whole story all the time.

theogt
09-21-2010, 07:58 PM
Aikman even calls it. Throws it with 'great anticipation' - meaning he throws it before Witten even gets his head around giving him no time to adjust.Here's a little FYI for you. I'm going to teach you a little bit about football.

These routes are based on timing. When he actually begins to throw, the receiver isn't necessarily facing him. But because of the timing, the receiver must expect it when he turns to look for the ball. On these little 10 yard routes, if Romo waits to throw the ball until after the route has been run, it will be intercepted because the defender can anticipate and adjust.

Now you know about timing routes. I hope this helps you.

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 07:59 PM
I think Dez is ahead of where he should be. I dont care who you are, i dont care your talent, i dont even care your draft position, you cannot describe the speed of the game to the rookies. It cant be done. You have to be on the field to realize it and he even said he needed that first game to get the jitters out and get a feel for the game.

If our coaches or Tony trust him to be on the field, we're both desperate (and until Roy was playing better people thought we were) or hes that good and no one wants to hold him back for no reason.

I will take Rays handling of the WR"s any day of the week over the medias thoughts or film. He did great work with Miles and even from MU I didnt think Miles was going to be Miles. And Ray believed in him and now a UDFA rookie is doing good things in the NFL. Our offensive coordinator is holdiing him back, but Miles could be putting up a heck of a year right now if someone unleashed our QB.

Miles has like 342 catches already this season.

:laugh2:

Dave_in-NC
09-21-2010, 08:02 PM
Yeah, now watch the video. Ball is on him as soon as he turns around and it hits him in the shoulder.

:laugh2:

And please tell us the secondary was never confused with Hamlin back there.

:laugh2:




They were a lot less confused I will argue that all day. Hamlin was a calm vet
back there.

Aikman played in a timing based offense, he thought that ball was early?

CATCH17
09-21-2010, 08:03 PM
Who is a better talent... Dez Bryant or Michael Crabtree?

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 08:03 PM
Here's a little FYI for you. I'm going to teach you a little bit about football.

These routes are based on timing. When he actually begins to throw, the receiver isn't necessarily facing him. But because of the timing, the receiver must expect it when he turns to look for the ball. On these little 10 yard routes, if Romo waits to throw the ball until after the route has been run, it will be intercepted because the defender can anticipate and adjust.

Now you know about timing routes. I hope this helps you.

You aren't teaching anyone anything.

Just like you taught us last week that Miles was running a 'Deep Post' until I showed you the sideline footage.

Please stop. Video shows the poor throw. You just didn't know the video was already chopped and ready to go, lol.

:laugh2:

Teaching us, lol.

You taught us all about your football knowledge when you cried for weeks that Hamlin was a good player. LMAO.

craig71
09-21-2010, 08:04 PM
Another image.

Obviously a terrible throw and entirely too early. LOL.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7913/1234ng.png (http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7913/1234ng.png)


Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that Witten can see the ball at this point in time. I think the ball is above Witten's line of sight. If he didn't have his helmet on he may be able to see the ball. With his helmet on I'm not so sure.
Just a thought.

Craig

Hoofbite
09-21-2010, 08:05 PM
Sucks that the OL has players who aren't living up to expectations.

Hostile
09-21-2010, 08:05 PM
Yeah, now watch the video. Ball is on him as soon as he turns around and it hits him in the shoulder.
Well, no wonder we lost. Ball is guarding our WRs?

;)

theogt
09-21-2010, 08:06 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that Witten can see the ball at this point in time. I think the ball is above Witten's line of sight. If he didn't have his helmet on he may be able to see the ball. With his helmet on I'm not so sure.
Just a thought.

CraigHe may not be able to see it. That's impossible to tell, really. But the question is whether it was "too early" and the video shows it was not.

CATCH17
09-21-2010, 08:06 PM
Sucks that the OL has players who aren't living up to expectations.

Pass protection looked good when you consider we threw it 51 times.

percyhoward
09-21-2010, 08:07 PM
These routes are based on timing.
Exactly. If the ball hits Witten in the numbers instead of just above his left shoulder, nobody would even be talking about when it was thrown.

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 08:10 PM
They were a lot less confused I will argue that all day. Hamlin was a calm vet
back there.

Aikman played in a timing based offense, he thought that ball was early?

So now Hamlin was great after seeing Alan Ball for two games.

And I am not even sticking up for Ball because he stinks too.

Neither one of them makes plays.

And listen to this from Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick...

Jenkins and Scan (http://app.quickblogcast.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/scan.mp3)

It's never about one player. It's about the group as a unit communicating and being on the same page.

MichaelWinicki
09-21-2010, 08:10 PM
How many people said that Hamlins role as QB of the secondary was not important?

The role of "QB" of the defense is important.

Too bad he was lousy at it too.

LeonDixson
09-21-2010, 08:13 PM
Exactly. If the ball hits Witten in the numbers instead of just above his left shoulder, nobody would even be talking about when it was thrown.
I agree with this. The throw was a bad one because he didn't lead Witten, but it doesn't appear to be too early.

burmafrd
09-21-2010, 08:13 PM
So now Hamlin was great after seeing Alan Ball for two games.

And I am not even sticking up for Ball because he stinks too.

Neither one of them makes plays.

And listen to this from Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick...

Jenkins and Scan (http://app.quickblogcast.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/jenksscan_sept7.mp3)

It's never about one player. It's about the group as a unit communicating and being on the same page.


And that is what HAMLIN did last year.

Hoofbite
09-21-2010, 08:14 PM
The role of "QB" of the defense is important.

Too bad he was lousy at it too.

Don't you talk bad about Hamlin.

He was such a team player that he let everyone around him make all the plays so they could take all the credit.

Very unselfish of the man.

burmafrd
09-21-2010, 08:14 PM
The role of "QB" of the defense is important.

Too bad he was lousy at it too.

Hamlin was considered the QB of the secondary, not the whole D.

percyhoward
09-21-2010, 08:15 PM
Aikman played in a timing based offense, he thought that ball was early?
It's a head-scratcher, isn't it?

Like the ball he saw clearly moving in Gronkowski's hand.

burmafrd
09-21-2010, 08:15 PM
Don't you talk bad about Hamlin.

He was such a team player that he let everyone around him make all the plays so they could take all the credit.

Very unselfish of the man.

worked better then than it is right now

DaBoys4Life
09-21-2010, 08:15 PM
How many people said that Hamlins role as QB of the secondary was not important?

How many people were glad to see Hamlin leave? Careful what you wish for, I guess. Tight ends running wide open for long touchdowns must end. Too many easy scores for Chicago. And I don't think they're that talented.

Child please that non sense was going on with Hamlin here. We haven't been able to cover a TE for the past five years.

MichaelWinicki
09-21-2010, 08:15 PM
Don't you talk bad about Hamlin.

He was such a team player that he let everyone around him make all the plays so they could take all the credit.

Very unselfish of the man.

I stand corrected.

Well played sir! Well played. :)

craig71
09-21-2010, 08:16 PM
He may not be able to see it. That's impossible to tell, really. But the question is whether it was "too early" and the video shows it was not.

Only Witten could answer that one. If the ball was indeed in a blind spot, the throw could have been either a tad later or a tad earlier and not be in the blind spot. I guess it just depends on how one wants to look at it.

Craig

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 08:18 PM
Exactly. If the ball hits Witten in the numbers instead of just above his left shoulder, nobody would even be talking about when it was thrown.

If Romo throws is a half second later Witten may be able to adjust and catch it.

Let's not act like every pass Romo throws is perfect.

There were plays in this game where Romo was jumpy and threw the ball early.

Hoofbite
09-21-2010, 08:18 PM
worked better then than it is right now

What?

We've seen 2 games. The first game, the defense gave up 6 points.

The second game wasn't anything pretty but to jump to a conclusion that it is all because Hamlin is gone is nuts.

Let's let it play out a little bit before we start rueing the absence of a guy who probably hasn't even stepped on the field in Baltimore yet.

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 08:19 PM
Hamlin was considered the QB of the secondary, not the whole D.

Listen to the audio from Scandrick I put up.

He threw that 'Hamlin was calling plays' nonsens right in the garbage.

percyhoward
09-21-2010, 08:20 PM
I agree with this. The throw was a bad one because he didn't lead Witten, but it doesn't appear to be too early.
It was one of those 50/50 balls that wasn't a perfect pass, but still could have been caught. I put it more on Witten actually, because he ran the exact same pattern two plays before and the pass was in the exact same place.

Hoofbite
09-21-2010, 08:24 PM
Hate to remind anyone but in the first two games of last season when Hamlin was playing, Dallas got passed on by both Leftwich and Manning.

The defense will settle in and start making people bleed. I have no worries about the defense.

Now the offense, I have worries.

Dave_in-NC
09-21-2010, 08:25 PM
If Romo throws is a half second later Witten may be able to adjust and catch it.

Let's not act like every pass Romo throws is perfect.

There were plays in this game where Romo was jumpy and threw the ball early.

No one is saying Romo is perfect. The blocking on the play was good. Romo does have a great feel for pressure, I don't see where he panicked. Like Craig
said, only Witten could say what happened and we all know he wouldn't if asked.

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 08:26 PM
It was one of those 50/50 balls that wasn't a perfect pass, but still could have been caught. I put it more on Witten actually, because he ran the exact same pattern two plays before and the pass was in the exact same place.

If the ball is a foot to the left (from behind the play) I think Witten catches it.

And if it's thrown a half second later Witten has more time to get around and get two hands on it.

Just another example of a bad pitch and catch.

Unfortunately for us it winds up in a pick.

Remember that stupid pass off Witten's foot against the Giants last season.

:bang2:

I heard Witten on BaD Radio today talking about this play. Will have audio later. Said it was just one of those plays they completed 1,000 times already and that they will complete 1,000 more times.

But on this one they weren't on point.

percyhoward
09-21-2010, 08:29 PM
If Romo throws is a half second later Witten may be able to adjust and catch it.

Let's not act like every pass Romo throws is perfect.

There were plays in this game where Romo was jumpy and threw the ball early.
My eyes disagree with Broaddus on this particular pass, is all I'm saying.

Bluestang
09-21-2010, 08:30 PM
My only beef with the play is that Witten batted it with one-hand. That is a recipe for disaster. It was a freak play but like it was said earlier this has happened before with Witten. I'm not trying to place any blame here but basic football fundamentals went out the window on this play. Recievers are taught to get two hands on the ball no matter what...

Bluestang
09-21-2010, 08:32 PM
My eyes disagree with Broaddus on this particular pass, is all I'm saying.


I like the hearing Broaddus' perspective but he has the Wade Phillips hate and sometimes it shows in his writing and radio interviews.

percyhoward
09-21-2010, 08:32 PM
If the ball is a foot to the left (from behind the play) I think Witten catches it.
No matter when it was thrown, yes.

Because then it hits him in the face mask.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/445987/Bears8_medium.png

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 08:35 PM
My eyes disagree with Broaddus on this particular pass, is all I'm saying.

Yeah, I could see the early part being debated. I think that was more about Romo throwing some other passes early as well.

He was just off on a few plays - Choice miss.

I think Romo is pressing right now. He knows this unit is struggling to put up points and maybe he's trying to be too perfect on some stuff. In time once they put up some TD's I think he goes back to looking smooth.

As long as he's not McNabb throwing dirt balls I am cool with him.

:laugh2:

Hoofbite
09-21-2010, 08:36 PM
How about Witten just didn't pick it up enough?

The throw probably could have been better but it still him him in the shoulder and Witten probably could have picked it up earlier and caught it. I've always thought that a ball should be caught if you can get your hands on it.

I don't think there's any way to lay blame on either of them completely.

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 08:39 PM
No matter when it was thrown, yes.

Because then it hits him in the face mask.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/445987/Bears8_medium.png (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/445987/Bears8_medium.png)

But if it's a half second later Witten gets his hands up in front of his face mask and catches it. You can see his right hand is still at his side from coming out of his break.

Plus he's a big bodied TE.

Miles can reach back across his frame and snag those passes. I love Witten, but the guy is kinda stiff. You look at guys like Marty B and they have more flex in their hips and their arms are longer it seems. With Witten the ball can't really be a 'bad ball' or he's going to struggle to come up with it. Now with that said the man runs precise routes every time out so that's why him and Romo are so money 98% of the time.

dcfanatic
09-21-2010, 08:43 PM
How about Witten just didn't pick it up enough?

The throw probably could have been better but it still him him in the shoulder and Witten probably could have picked it up earlier and caught it. I've always thought that a ball should be caught if you can get your hands on it.

I don't think there's any way to lay blame on either of them completely.

Hey at least Romo hit the man.

It could have been worse.

Steelers game. Two feet over his head to the right and being returned for a TD.

:banghead:

Chocolate Lab
09-21-2010, 08:48 PM
It's a head-scratcher, isn't it?

Like the ball he saw clearly moving in Gronkowski's hand.

:muttley:

I didn't think the throw was early at all, but it was too far inside.

percyhoward
09-21-2010, 08:54 PM
But if it's a half second later Witten gets his hands up in front of his face mask and catches it. You can see his right hand is still at his side from coming out of his break.
Unless there's some kind of unnatural lag, both arms should react at the same time. :)

Bob Sacamano
09-21-2010, 08:57 PM
Unless there's some kind of unnatural lag, both arms should react at the same time. :)
:laugh2:

Doomsday
09-21-2010, 09:00 PM
I agree on Leonard Davis, he just seems slow, late to react and misses a lot of assignments. He isnt getting the push inside that this team needs from him in the running. If he doesnt pick it up they need to give Holland at shot at RG.

InmanRoshi
09-21-2010, 09:34 PM
Let's not act like every pass Romo throws is perfect.


Perfect? Romo gets absolutely crucified for hitting players square in the hands. Its absolutely unbelievable.

I can't wait until the day when Romo leaves and we're back to Quincy Carter and Chad Hutchinson eras of quarterbacking, just so people can look and laugh at how spoiled we were when we thought balls hitting wide receivers right in their shoulder pads were "bad throws".

ddh33
09-21-2010, 09:42 PM
Perfect? Romo gets absolutely crucified for hitting players square in the hands. Its absolutely unbelievable.

I can't wait until the day when Romo leaves and we're back to Quincy Carter and Chad Hutchinson eras of quarterbacking, just so people can look and laugh at how spoiled we were when we thought balls hitting wide receivers right in their shoulder pads were "bad throws".

I hear Tony Romo speak a lot about how being the QB of the Cowboys is all he has ever known.

As much as I would miss him (and so would everyone else after three passes from anybody else), part of me wishes Tony would get to experience life elsewhere.

I have never seen someone take more of a beating for being superior than Romo. And he always handles it with class.

I swear, the guy gets blamed for everything, goes out and produces better than almost anyone playing his position, and then gets blamed for it all over again. I truly hate it for him.

Yakuza Rich
09-21-2010, 09:49 PM
The Romo throw was a tad early and was a bit inaccurate.

If he throws it more accurately, then it's a pass that should be caught.

OR if he throws it a little later, Witten catches it. But since it was a little early and a bit behind him, there's the INT. The problem with the snap shots is that they don't tell us the velocity of the football, so it appears that Witten has a chance to see the ball when he really didn't. But it wasn't like Romo was way early or way off. Just a bit of both to cause the INT.





YR

InmanRoshi
09-21-2010, 09:54 PM
I hear Tony Romo speak a lot about how being the QB of the Cowboys is all he has ever known.

As much as I would miss him (and so would everyone else after three passes from anybody else), part of me wishes Tony would get to experience life elsewhere.

I have never seen someone take more of a beating for being superior than Romo. And he always handles it with class.

I swear, the guy gets blamed for everything, goes out and produces better than almost anyone playing his position, and then gets blamed for it all over again. I truly hate it for him.


I remember when Romo broke his thumb people actually said that the Cowboys would be better off with Brad Johnson quarterbacking because he would "manage the game" better. Not a fringe minority, but a significant number of people.

bbgun
09-21-2010, 09:59 PM
repost

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CaptainAmerica
09-21-2010, 10:06 PM
I've been thinking from game one that Romo was rushing things in the pocket. I hope he isn't getting a case of the jitters with all the dodoging and running he has to do back there because that is not good for a QB. He has to hang in there like Kurt Warner and deliver the ball.

Randy White
09-21-2010, 10:36 PM
Who is a better talent... Dez Bryant or Michael Crabtree?


Talent ? Man, that's extremely hard to gauge because both look so similar, but I was watching Crabtree yesterday and he looks a bit more " natural " than Dez does.

Then again, that might just be because he's had a 1 year jump start on Dez in the league..

Randy White
09-21-2010, 10:47 PM
He may not be able to see it. That's impossible to tell, really. But the question is whether it was "too early" and the video shows it was not.

It was either a bit too early OR Jason ran the route deeper than he should have, or a simple missed read..

Sometimes on passes that look early and " surprise " the receiver are actually the receivers' fault for running the route longer than it should have been OR there was a miscommunication between he and the QB were they didn't read the defense the same way..

IMO, in this particular case, I think there was a misread between TR and Witten. If you look at the picture again, at the upper left hand corner you'll see the man covering Marty B, starting to break towards the ball. Tony probably saw that defender and perhaps decided to throw it a bit earlier because if he throws it on time, or a bit late, that ball is probably cleanly picked up by that defender. If you notice the defender behind Witten, he was irrelevant because he didn't even know the ball was in the air. Perhaps Tony thought that Jason would see the same thing and adjust the pattern. Obviously, Jason didn't see the same thing, and the ball got there a bit quicker than he anticipated.

Randy White
09-21-2010, 10:52 PM
Exactly. If the ball hits Witten in the numbers instead of just above his left shoulder, nobody would even be talking about when it was thrown.


Left shoulder ( back or front ), right shoulder ( back or front ), behind, ahead, at the knees, are ALL legit pattern targets, not just " between the numbers ".. As a matter of fact, the majority of routes do NOT call for the ball to be thrown to " between the numbers " because they can be easily intercepted.

Zman5
09-21-2010, 10:56 PM
It looks like from the video, Romo releases the ball just as JW is starting to turn around. You could say it's tad early but it's definitely not way too early. I think if the pass was accurate, the timing of the pass was fine.

Randy White
09-21-2010, 10:58 PM
come on people, you have to be kidding me. The Cowboys got rid of him for the same reason Seattle did. Hamlin is the type of player who in order to perform at a high level needs to be motivated all the time, mostly with money. There was a reason why Seattle didn't put up too much of a fight when he left, there evern rumblins that they were glad he did.

Once he cashed in with the Cowboys, he let himself get " mentally fat ". The motivation, for the most part, wasn't there anymore. He's not alone in that department either and although I don't have any evidence to back me up on this, I suspect that's the main reason why they haven't inked Spears to a long term contract.

Randy White
09-21-2010, 11:15 PM
what I'm talking about

http://img.att.net/photos/17/42333617/493561/1234ng.png


Tony probably saw Marty B's defender not going with Marty B, so he decided ( and I'm talking about a matter of a second, 2 at the latest ) to throw the ball earlier. I'm thinking that Tony thought that Jason saw the same thing too and would break the pattern earlier.

If Tony throws the ball to where the pink X is ( which is probably where the pattern calls for the ball to be thrown but that's providing that Marty B's defender doesn't freelance ) , more than likely that ball is intercepted.

Randy White
09-21-2010, 11:20 PM
just by looking at that picture, and not knowing exactly how the play is supposed to be executed ( meaning I might be completely wrong ), but I'd be one seriously pissed off coach or player at Marty B today.

Again, this is just going by the picture and nothing else and I admit that I'm a Marty B supporter, but the way he was " dragging " on that route it looks like his defender quickly figured out he wasn't going to get the ball so he was able to break on that ball quicker than TR anticipated him to.

Let me repeat again, that's just going by one frame, where the ball is in the air, and the defender breaking for it. It could very well be that the defender guessed right and just made a great play ( by forcing TR to throw earlier than he should have ), and there was nothing Marty B. could have done differently.

UnoDallas
09-21-2010, 11:22 PM
This secondary was doing the same nonsense at times over the last three seasons

and whos fault is that - Wade ?

Bob Sacamano
09-21-2010, 11:23 PM
It was either a bit too early OR Jason ran the route deeper than he should have, or a simple missed read..

Sometimes on passes that look early and " surprise " the receiver are actually the receivers' fault for running the route longer than it should have been OR there was a miscommunication between he and the QB were they didn't read the defense the same way..

IMO, in this particular case, I think there was a misread between TR and Witten. If you look at the picture again, at the upper left hand corner you'll see the man covering Marty B, starting to break towards the ball. Tony probably saw that defender and perhaps decided to throw it a bit earlier because if he throws it on time, or a bit late, that ball is probably cleanly picked up by that defender. If you notice the defender behind Witten, he was irrelevant because he didn't even know the ball was in the air. Perhaps Tony thought that Jason would see the same thing and adjust the pattern. Obviously, Jason didn't see the same thing, and the ball got there a bit quicker than he anticipated.

:hammer: The fact is pretty simple that Jason wasn't aware on the play. He was open and in a position to catch a 1st down.

That he's in a timing based offense and is supposed to be Romo's safety valve is pretty bad too.

baj1dallas
09-21-2010, 11:28 PM
This problem has been around since Wade arrived. I thought maybe it was on Brian Stewart, but it's still around now.

Longer. It was here when Parcells was here.

Randy White
09-21-2010, 11:34 PM
passing patterns are, in a way, like a ballet act. They require 90 to 95 % team work, 98 % timing, and 100% rythem. If somebody misses a block, the QB is hurried, the throw gets there earlier. If a non-targeted receiver who's running a pattern in the area where the ball is thrown doesn't " sell out " his route, his defender can disrupt the timing of the pass.

However, when everything is working as it should, it's a beautiful thing to see how so many synchronized components come together..

28 Joker
09-21-2010, 11:39 PM
That was really good news on Marc Colombo.

I thought he held up well.

He did good.

That is a positive.

The report on Leonard Davis is not good.

The inconsistency continues.

Davis had his best year under Tony Sparano, imso.

Coach him up.

Don't let him fail.

Can our coaches please show some fire and get Davis to play consistent?

Who is holding him accountable for his play?

Who is making him play with technique and fire?

He has trouble with quicker guys, but he was a very good guard in 2007, imo.

The report on the safeties is bad.

Gerald Sensabaugh doesn't care about "player meetings", and evidently, he doesn't care about carrying out his assignment.

Thanks for hanging Mike Jenkins out to dry against a 4.29 guy.

UnoDallas
09-21-2010, 11:44 PM
DB poor play - Campo or Wade

Clove
09-22-2010, 12:19 AM
That pass was early and behind Witten. It happens. That one play should not have defined the entire game though.

dcfanatic
09-22-2010, 12:49 AM
That was really good news on Marc Colombo.

I thought he held up well.

He did good.

That is a positive.

The report on Leonard Davis is not good.

The inconsistency continues.

Davis had his best year under Tony Sparano, imso.

Coach him up.

Don't let him fail.

Can our coaches please show some fire and get Davis to play consistent?

Who is holding him accountable for his play?

Who is making him play with technique and fire?

He has trouble with quicker guys, but he was a very good guard in 2007, imo.

The report on the safeties is bad.

Gerald Sensabaugh doesn't care about "player meetings", and evidently, he doesn't care about carrying out his assignment.

Thanks for hanging Mike Jenkins out to dry against a 4.29 guy.

I am watching the replay on NFLN now and Colombo looks like he's 26 again. Has a bounce in his step.

Alan Ball is horrible. He's been useless in these two games.

dcfanatic
09-22-2010, 12:56 AM
4drgmITjDfk

This offense has too many damn 'option routes'.

Thomas82
09-22-2010, 02:30 AM
Who is a better talent... Dez Bryant or Michael Crabtree?

I think we should make a thread out of this and take a vote.

kramskoi
09-22-2010, 02:43 AM
Broaddus: The Film Don't Lie on GAC today (http:// sblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/broaddus-film-dont-lie-on-gac-today.html)



Great stuff from Bryan Broaddus on Galloway and Company today. You are going to hear some things about Dez in here that are not all that flattering, but let's remember that he's a rookie still and in time he's going to need to learn how to be a professional...

Broaddus on GAC - Sep 21st (http://app.quickblogcast.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/broaddus_sep21.mp3)

It's something we all know already. This team is just so undisciplined and when they do win games they are doing so because they were able to overcome their mistakes.

And I am not saying they should be perfect. But on both sides of the ball most of these guys have been in these systems for a few years now. Both Garrett and Wade have been in place since 2007 so there is no excuses about guys learning new systems and guys having to adjust.

This secondary was doing the same nonsense at times over the last three seasons. Some guys don't know the coverage presnap or they don't get the check into another coverage. Then Brooking and Bradie aren't in tune on the Olsen TD. Sensabaugh screws up on the long pass to Knox.

All of this stuff just screams one word - SLOPPY.

You need to do the little things in these games to win. And if you don't then you find yourself losing by seven at home to a team who isn't as talented on paper.

On Dez. Don't be fooled into the talk from Ray Sherman that Dez was all in the playbook while he was rehabbing. I was hearing things about him not being all that attentive in the meetings while in camp.

But like I said earlier he's a rookie. No one comes into this league and is right away doing things like a 10 year veteran. As long as he has people around him making sure he's accountable when he screws up I think he's going to be fine.

On the other hand if the coaches just give him a pass because he's the first round draft pick then in time you are going to see him on the field continuing to look a little lost a times.



...come on man...is that all you have on Dez?:confused:...the guy is contributing to the cause both on offense and special teams...the guy i'm seeing on square-ins and quick slants looks anything but lost...his routes and number of snaps are limited but he's made the MOST of them...

Manster68
09-22-2010, 02:45 AM
My goodness gracious!

Why don't those type of interceptions fall into the Cowboys laps?

You would think the Cowboys are due for the ball to bounce their way for once, don't you?

Frustrating!

kramskoi
09-22-2010, 02:46 AM
come on people, you have to be kidding me. The Cowboys got rid of him for the same reason Seattle did. Hamlin is the type of player who in order to perform at a high level needs to be motivated all the time, mostly with money. There was a reason why Seattle didn't put up too much of a fight when he left, there evern rumblins that they were glad he did.

Once he cashed in with the Cowboys, he let himself get " mentally fat ". The motivation, for the most part, wasn't there anymore. He's not alone in that department either and although I don't have any evidence to back me up on this, I suspect that's the main reason why they haven't inked Spears to a long term contract.


...some guys want championships and others just want cash...

Randy White
09-22-2010, 03:19 AM
OFF the Bigg's bandwagon.. I defended him last year, but this year I started paying closer attention to him and, honesly speaking, I wouldn't have him out there.. I'd rather have Holland than him.

Heck, I'll even consider cutting him.

He's a good example of why I do not like Hudson Houck. Biggs tries to " bully " defenders more than using technique and they're running around him. If there's one thing that Jerry does need to change after this season is the O-line coach. Hopefully he's retiring..

Chocolate Lab
09-22-2010, 07:43 AM
He's a good example of why I do not like Hudson Houck. Biggs tries to " bully " defenders more than using technique and they're running around him. If there's one thing that Jerry does need to change after this season is the O-line coach. Hopefully he's retiring..
Too bad Jerry said just last week after the Barron fiasco that there wasn't anyone on this planet he'd rather have helping the OL correct their mistakes. :(

Randy White
09-22-2010, 08:27 AM
Too bad Jerry said just last week after the Barron fiasco that there wasn't anyone on this planet he'd rather have helping the OL correct their mistakes. :(


Yea, I heard that.. For now, I'm going to dismiss it as just " Jerrah speak " because I think Houck is retiring after this year anyways.

dcfanatic
09-22-2010, 01:37 PM
Too bad Jerry said just last week after the Barron fiasco that there wasn't anyone on this planet he'd rather have helping the OL correct their mistakes. :(

Seriously.

Houck has had one foot out the door to retirement since he's arrived.