Dallas Mavericks Thread

[TheCowboy]

Can't find one that was made, so I'll create one. If there was a previous thread on this topic, please inform me of the thread and I'll post there.

As for the Mavericks, I think we have the talent set to win a Finals and I do think that Rick Carlile is a great coach, however we just find a way to lose every year. I don't have huge expectations for the Mavericks as I do for the Cowboys, but we have enough talent to go far.

Here's to a great season for the best NBA team! :toast:

[StylisticS]

Ahh the NBA. The only league where you know that there are only 4 teams that have a chance and the other 26 can just hope for a good season and a good draft pick.

I'm a Mavs fan as well. Think we can be the 2nd or 3rd best team in the West. But everyone is far behind the Lakers sadly. They improved this offseason with Blake and Ratliff.

[bbgun]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Exclusive-Lunch-Two-Mark-Cuban-/120622480761?pt=Tickets_Experiences&hash=item1c15a8fd79

no shortage of idiots out there

[MegaMagick]

If Butler doesn't step up or if we don't get a superstar in a trade we have no shot at a deep playoff run.

It's sad to see the Heat of all teams/fanbases being showered with gold while we'll likely go out with a whimper in this new buddy up mega team age.

[TheCowboy]

Wednesday at Charlotte 8:30 Eastern.

C'Mon Mavs! Open the season on a positive note!

[Yeagermeister]

Ahh the NBA. The only league where you know that there are only 4 teams that have a chance and the other 26 can just hope for a good season and a good draft pick.

I'm a Mavs fan as well. Think we can be the 2nd or 3rd best team in the West. But everyone is far behind the Lakers sadly. They improved this offseason with Blake and Ratliff.

There is another....the BSC

[Sam I Am]

I used to be a HUGE NBA/Dallas Mavericks fan. I gave up on the NBA and it all started with two teams that I hate. (Kings / Lakers) The Kings kicked the Lakers *** in the playoffs, but the NBA knew the Kings didn't have the celeb power the Lakers had so they screwed the Kings out of the playoffs using the refs.

That soured me BIG TIME to how ****ty the NBA is. Gradually over time I kept seeing the same crap over and over again and my hate towards the NBA grew gangbusters.

Funny thing is, I met my wife at a Dallas Mavericks game. How is that for funny as hell? Anyhow, my wife is still a huge NBA fan and I hate the league with a passion. I just purchased NBA League Pass for her today, but I won't watch it.

My wife is basically a Steve Nash fan (why she was even at a Mavs game in the first play where she met me) a Dallas Mavs fan (for obvious reasons), NY Knicks fan (she has always lived in the NY area), a Suns fan (Nash) and now a Golden State fan (David Lee, ex-Knick)

Anyhow, the NBA because of crappy management is a dying league. Since they let their players do what they did, (all the great players piling into basically 3-4 teams) they will only die faster.

Good riddance, it's a shame too because my wife loves the NBA. ...I did too for about 20 years...

[juck]

I am a huge Mavs homer and i watch most games but Ill admit I dont expect much. Their backcourt would be good with Roddy and Dojo but Carlisle sucks a bit.

[windward]

I expect 50 or so wins and a trip to the conference semis maybe conference finals.

[TheCowboy]

7-2 so far. Lookin' good guys! Beat the 8-0 Hornets on Monday and we'll beat 'em again tonight! Go mavs!

[Bonecrusher#31]

Ahem.....


LakeShow

[TheCowboy]

Ahem

MAVERICKS THREAD

[Christiann]

Ahem.....


LakeShow

This. :D

[MegaMagick]

So close to beating the hornets again, man just give us A.I or Josh Smith(esp him, he's a beast) and we'd be up there with the Lakers and Celtics as championship frontrunners.

[MC KAos]

Ahem.....


LakeShow

FIRST PLACE SPURS!!!

This. :D

I LOVE your sig pic of koke, looks like lebron bowing down to him, which he should, because lebron is a little ***** who needed to team up with his buddies to try and beat kobe, what a coward!!

anyway, back to the mavs thread, sorry to hijack

mavs are doing really good this year their defense has been pretty good, that chandler signing is gonna be key. He has always played duncan very well and i think he can do a good job on gasol.

[TheCowboy]

Yet another close game for the Mavs. It would be nice to have a normal win and not a down to the neck game once in a while.

[juck]

Roddy Buckets will be back soon.

[juck]

Chandler is a BEAST! down goes Spurs streak Down goes South Beach Talent! 12-4

[Sam I Am]

heh I bought my wife a ticket to the Mavs vs Heat game and she decided she didn't want to go alone. Next thing you know it, I had one too! :lmao2:

Anyhow, it was actually a pretty fun game. I had a great time, except for the fact that I didn't get back to my hotel until 1:15AM, in bed till 1:45AM, and I left for the airport at at 4:00AM. I just arrived home about 25 minutes ago. :(

It was fun, but it made the trip home from Dallas rough.

[TheCowboy]

heh I bought my wife a ticket to the Mavs vs Heat game and she decided she didn't want to go alone. Next thing you know it, I had one too! :lmao2:

Anyhow, it was actually a pretty fun game. I had a great time, except for the fact that I didn't get back to my hotel until 1:15AM, in bed till 1:45AM, and I left for the airport at at 4:00AM. I just arrived home about 25 minutes ago. :(

It was fun, but it made the trip home from Dallas rough.
Awesome! Yes it was a great game. Mavs are looking better than ever!

[QT]

Die hard Mavs fan!

[Heisenberg]

They're looking pretty good this year. And good in a different way. They're playing some pretty nice defense and Chandler has been a real nice surprise so far.

[juck]

Check my sig!

[Heisenberg]

Is it too early to say this?

Is this Mavericks team better than the finals team a few years ago?

I think it might be. Still, having said that, the conference is probably stronger than it was then so it doesn't mean an NBA Finals appearance.

[Heisenberg]

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh185/cerrakin/05.jpg

[StylisticS]

The streak stoppers have won 9 in a row.

[MegaMagick]

Eh, can never get too high in dallas. Mavs have always been at least REALLY good during the regular season. Last year they had the 13 game win streak and you though Butler/Haywood were the missing title pieces. However we were bounced by the SPURS who went on to get swept by the suns.


This year they look to be great, they should stretch this win streak to 13-14 games, however i'm all about the playoffs. NBA season is too long and couple that with the Playoff disappointments and i'm pretty numb to the reg season.

[MC KAos]

Awesome! Yes it was a great game. Mavs are looking better than ever!

Check my sig!

Is it too early to say this?

Is this Mavericks team better than the finals team a few years ago?

I think it might be. Still, having said that, the conference is probably stronger than it was then so it doesn't mean an NBA Finals appearance.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh185/cerrakin/05.jpg (http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh185/cerrakin/05.jpg)

The streak stoppers have won 9 in a row.

classic mavs fans, getting over exited about them in early december :laugh2:

[StylisticS]

And there is that typical arrogant spurs fan. Far be it for Mavs fans to cheer on Mavs success this season in a Mavs thread. Get over yourself.

[TheCowboy]

classic mavs fans, getting over exited about them in early december :laugh2:
Hey remember when we beat you earlier this season?

[MC KAos]

And there is that typical arrogant spurs fan. Far be it for Mavs fans to cheer on Mavs success this season in a Mavs thread. Get over yourself.

Hey remember when we beat you earlier this season?

:lmao2:

again, mavs fans getting carried away with success in november and december! i understand its a mavs thread, but to claim that you guys are better than the 2006 team that made the finals in DECEMBER is beyong ridiculous! and i do remember how yall beat us earlier in the year, but it didnt count any more than our other wins or loses. But i guess if my team had never won a championship id be super happy to beat big brother :D

[StylisticS]

I never once said that. All I did was made a remark on my team at this point in the season so I don't know why you continue to quote me. Move on.

[juck]

And there is that typical arrogant spurs fan. Far be it for Mavs fans to cheer on Mavs success this season in a Mavs thread. Get over yourself.

Spurs are like the Steeler fans. I despise them.

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm in the small group that likes all three Texas teams.

When someone other than the Celtics, Lakers and now Heat, win a championship– then all is good with the world. And if it's the Mavs, Rockets or Spurs, well so much the better. :)

[MC KAos]

I'm in the small group that likes all three Texas teams.

When someone other than the Celtics, Lakers and now Heat, win a championship– then all is good with the world. And if it's the Mavs, Rockets or Spurs, well so much the better. :)

i kind of feel that way about texas teams in general usually (rockets, texans, astros, etc) but i hate the mavs, they have been one of our main rivals for so long so i cant bring myself to cheer for them. its funny because my dad is the same way with the rockets, even all these years after the hakeem shake and all that when he destroyed us, but i was too young to really remember that so it doesnt bother me as much

[Heisenberg]

classic mavs fans, getting over exited about them in early december :laugh2:

This team has better pieces than that 2006 team. Hence, my comment.

God forbid I get excited during the regular season. It's only 82 games long. I'll try to be bored the whole way through.

[TheCowboy]

11 straight wins now.

[CATCH17]

Is it too early to say this?

Is this Mavericks team better than the finals team a few years ago?

I think it might be. Still, having said that, the conference is probably stronger than it was then so it doesn't mean an NBA Finals appearance.


They've had a couple teams better than the finals team.


The problem with Dallas is they are still a jump shooting team and they live and die by the jump shot in the playoffs.


I wish we could trade Jet for a more well rounded player because come playoff time he'll be the 1st to disapear.

[CATCH17]

How good was dark yesterday against Portland?

Man...

[MC KAos]

How good was dark yesterday against Portland?

Man...


im assuming you mean dirk. that guy is a beast!

[TheCowboy]

Mavs beat the Heat. Dang is it looking good!

[MegaMagick]

I feel sorry for any poor team that has to face the heat in the playoffs, the only eastern team that can survive the Wade/James late superstar calls are the celtics.

Everyone else? Good luck.

[juck]

The Cheat go down lol

[Sam I Am]

I feel sorry for any poor team that has to face the heat in the playoffs, the only eastern team that can survive the Wade/James late superstar calls are the celtics.

Everyone else? Good luck.

Out in the first round. :muttley:

[Heisenberg]

Out in the first round. :muttley:

I dunno. I think that with the limited rotations in the playoffs, having 3 big time players is going to be a pretty big deal. I think they'll get beaten by whoever comes out of the west though.

[Heisenberg]

They've had a couple teams better than the finals team.


The problem with Dallas is they are still a jump shooting team and they live and die by the jump shot in the playoffs.


I wish we could trade Jet for a more well rounded player because come playoff time he'll be the 1st to disapear.

I think Chandler helps some in that department and Marion is actually hitting some of those gimmes near the hoop this year.

I'm looking forward to getting Roddy back too. I think he'll add some much needed speed/slashing ability to the offense.

[CATCH17]

I think Chandler helps some in that department and Marion is actually hitting some of those gimmes near the hoop this year.

I'm looking forward to getting Roddy back too. I think he'll add some much needed speed/slashing ability to the offense.

Marions hitting his shot, Kidd is hitting his open 3's, and JET is a terror.

But guess what? They'll be no shows in the playoffs unless we find someone who breaks down the defense.

[Heisenberg]

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[Heisenberg]

Old, but still makes me laugh.

80pl68rTc08

[juck]

OKC who?

[TheCowboy]

OKC who?
8th straight win on the road. Can't wait to play the Lakers. Then we'll see how good we actually are. Although a good test comes tommorrow vs the Spurs.

[CATCH17]

Beat them without Dirk tonight too...


How good is Tyson Chandler?


Mavs still do too much jump shooting but its nice to see a legit defense out there.

[zrinkill]

Can't wait to play the Lakers. Then we'll see how good we actually are. Although a good test comes tommorrow vs the Spurs.

Spurs beat the Lakers last night.

[CATCH17]

Spurs beat the Lakers last night.

Lakers just aren't all that this year.

[zrinkill]

Lakers just aren't all that this year.

How good are the Raptors?

[Sam I Am]

Lakers just aren't all that this year.

They are, they are just half you know what-ing it right now.

[CATCH17]

How good are the Raptors?

Terrible...

But Dallas has proven this year that last night was an exception.


We got held to 76 points... I mean come on.. IT was just a stinker.


We've won something like 15 out of 17.

[zrinkill]

But Dallas has proven this year that last night was an exception.

We've won something like 15 out of 17.

Yet you downplayed the Spurs win over the Lakers.

[TheCowboy]

Tells you how valuable Dirk is to us.

[Danny White]

Is there anything better than watching Mark Cuban sulk while his team is getting beat by the Spurs?

No... no there is not. :p:

[SaltwaterServr]

Is there anything better than watching Mark Cuban sulk while his team is getting beat by the Spurs?

No... no there is not. :p:

Cosign.

24-7, and 3 1/2 games back in your own division. :laugh2:

[zrinkill]

Is there anything better than watching Mark Cuban sulk while his team is getting beat by the Spurs?

No... no there is not. :p:

:laugh2:

[DFWJC]

Cosign.

24-7, and 3 1/2 games back in your own division. :laugh2:
Fully armed, I think Dallas has the better team. Guess we'll see.

[DFWJC]

How good are the Raptors?
Young and inconsistent...not so good overall.

They've also beaten Boston, Orlando and OKC, but for most part, they are not good.

[StylisticS]

Dallas lacks a second option and it is showing. You cannot count on Jason Terry. Never could and you never will. Dirk being out is an eye opener and it also proves that he should be in the MVP talks.

[zrinkill]

Butler is gone for the year.

[DFWJC]

Butler is gone for the year.
There went the legit second option.

[Heisenberg]

There went the legit second option.

He's definitely been a disappointment since he got here, but it's still a pretty big loss.

[DFWJC]

He's definitely been a disappointment since he got here, but it's still a pretty big loss.
He was coming around--shooting a higher percentage and scoring at a 20 ppg clip in the 7 games before his injury.

The team does have plenty of depth, but they needed Butler badly imo. Who knows, maybe when Roddy B comes back he can provide a boost.

[TheCowboy]

What a nightmare right now. Although the win vs the Lakers was nice.

[RastaRocket]

Roddy B needs to hurry!!!

[Heisenberg]

Yeah, the wheels shot off this thing in a hurry once Dirk went down and it'll probably be a few more games before Dirk gets his legs/shot back.

Roddy B probably won't help a whole lot having missed so much time, but hopefully he'll provide at least some spark when he comes back. Whenever that is.

[CATCH17]

Jason Kidd for 3 to beat Boston!

Great game.


The MAvs are back!

[rash]

Jason Kidd for 3 to beat Boston!

Great game.


The MAvs are back!

Kidd is the man! I know!

How much longer do you think he can last before he completely plummets?

[MegaMagick]

I watched the mavs game tonight but i've been on a sports/espn the longest time now.

Roddy B still isn't back? That's freakin' crazy.

[Boyz981]

Its to bad the officials think the game is about them.. most of the time!

[zrinkill]

JThe MAvs are back!

:laugh1:

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I don't normally root for the Mavs, but I was today. It's always great to see the C-Bags lose especially in the manner they did today.

[CATCH17]

I believe Roddy is back next week + we got Peja now too.

But yeah Kidd needs less minutes.



I wish we could get a solid backup point.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I believe Roddy is back next week + we got Peja now too.

But yeah Kidd needs less minutes.



I wish we could get a solid backup point.

Barea is solid.

[CATCH17]

Barea is solid.

He's purely offensive and not that great @ passing.


He's probably better as a 2 Guard with Jason on the floor with him.

[DFWJC]

Great win at Boston!

Seven in a row and counting. Although back-to-back road games my kill it tonight.

Dallas now has the second best record in the West.

BTW, talk about night and day with Dirk and without him....

long winning steaks with him, followed by long losing streaks without him, followed by more long winning steaks with him.

[rash]

phew..glad we won today

dirk didn't play as aggressive as i would have hoped

[CATCH17]

9 in a row now?


LETS GO MAVS!





roddy..roddy..roddy...roddy.

[baj1dallas]

9 in a row now?


LETS GO MAVS!





roddy..roddy..roddy...roddy.

Yea I didn't watch so I didn't get to see Stojakavic but hopefully I can see them Wed versus the Kings, I'm interested to see how much he can help them. They're on a serious roll and they've beaten all the quality teams and they were darn good beating Boston in Boston.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Yea I didn't watch so I didn't get to see Stojakavic but hopefully I can see them Wed versus the Kings, I'm interested to see how much he can help them. They're on a serious roll and they've beaten all the quality teams and they were darn good beating Boston in Boston.

I don't see Peja giving Dallas much, he's like 33.

[baj1dallas]

I don't see Peja giving Dallas much, he's like 33.

You mean, like ONE year older than Kobe Bryant?

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

You mean, like ONE year older than Kobe Bryant?

Bad comparison.

[CATCH17]

10 in a row?

[peplaw06]

10 in a row?The last 2 have been way to close for my liking. 3 points to the Cavs at home, and 2 points at Sacramento, with both teams having a shot to win or tie at the end? Yikes.

[CATCH17]

The last 2 have been way to close for my liking. 3 points to the Cavs at home, and 2 points at Sacramento, with both teams having a shot to win or tie at the end? Yikes.

It's ok though. Dirks not 100%.


+ we're about 7 days until Roddy is on the floor.

[zrinkill]

Ouch ..... 1 point losses suck.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

That was a wild game. First Denver choked away a 20 point lead then Dallas repaid the favor by losing a 15 point lead. Affalo has had a heck of a season great shot by him.

[MC KAos]

That was a wild game. First Denver choked away a 20 point lead then Dallas repaid the favor by losing a 15 point lead. Affalo has had a heck of a season great shot by him.


it happens a lot when playing high scoring, no defense teams like the nuggets and the old suns of five years or six years ago

[CATCH17]

Roddy is back!


Watch out NBA. The Mavericks are about to get a boost.

[Danny White]

Roddy is back!


Watch out NBA. The Mavericks are about to get a boost.

Piper?

http://www.whyfame.com/gossip/2009/july/2/roddy_piper_arrested_for_dui_main_10977.jpg

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Roddy is back!


Watch out NBA. The Mavericks are about to get a boost.

Idk about that. Roddy just came back from an injury it's gonna take him awhile to get back in shape.

[zrinkill]

Piper?

http://www.whyfame.com/gossip/2009/july/2/roddy_piper_arrested_for_dui_main_10977.jpg

Hopefully he hits Dirk in the head with a pineapple.

:laugh2:

[danielofthesaints]

Name me a bench that is deeper than the Mavs.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Name me a bench that is deeper than the Mavs.

I don't think their is one, but in the playoffs does depth really matter when rotations go from 9/10 to 7 or so. The Lakers have won the last two champs with an average at best bench. The Mavs starting lineup isn't all that impressive. Dirk is great, but Kidd is washed up, Chandler is an average center, Stevenson is a decent shooter, but does nothing else. If Dallas is gonna beat the Spurs or Lakers they're gonna have to upgrade their starting 5.

[CATCH17]

Roddy looked goooooood

[danielofthesaints]

I don't think their is one, but in the playoffs does depth really matter when rotations go from 9/10 to 7 or so. The Lakers have won the last two champs with an average at best bench. The Mavs starting lineup isn't all that impressive. Dirk is great, but Kidd is washed up, Chandler is an average center, Stevenson is a decent shooter, but does nothing else. If Dallas is gonna beat the Spurs or Lakers they're gonna have to upgrade their starting 5.

HAHAHAHA. Depth doesnt really matter in the playoffs? HAHAHAH. :lmao2: It's quite amusing you are making it seem like the Mavs chances are based on regular season starting lineup. Kidd may have some off nights, but theres no question a good majority he gets the job done with his ability to dish and lead. stevenson will eventually loose his minutes to roddy b. who at this point in his career is tony parker with more speed and a jump shot. j.j barea is coming along great. should i start talking about jason terry. Tyson Chandler is an above-average center. This year, he is Top 10 centers in the NBA, top 5 in the West. Sorry, but the Lakers just lost to the Cavs. The Cavs.......THE CAVS! Without a blockbuster trade, the Lakers are prime examples of how important team chemistry is. Having depth and chemistry is deadly.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

HAHAHAHA. Depth doesnt really matter in the playoffs? HAHAHAH. :lmao2: It's quite amusing you are making it seem like the Mavs chances are based on regular season starting lineup. Kidd may have some off nights, but theres no question a good majority he gets the job done with his ability to dish and lead. stevenson will eventually loose his minutes to roddy b. who at this point in his career is tony parker with more speed and a jump shot. j.j barea is coming along great. should i start talking about jason terry. Tyson Chandler is an above-average center. This year, he is Top 10 centers in the NBA, top 5 in the West. Sorry, but the Lakers just lost to the Cavs. The Cavs.......THE CAVS! Without a blockbuster trade, the Lakers are prime examples of how important team chemistry is. Having depth and chemistry is deadly.

Chandler a top 10 center? Oh boy you are showing your homerism. The dude is averaging 11 & 9 if those are top 10 numbers then the center position has really gotten weak. Kidd is washed up, the dude is shooting 36% which is the worst in the league for a starter if I'm not mistaken. He may get a lot of dimes, but he is a total liability on offense assists don't cover up his horrendous position on offense. Also LOL @ Roddy B being the next Tony Parker. What has he done, he averaged 7 ppg last year. He's shown to be a solid backup and nothing more. Yeah the Lakers lost to the Cavs which was embarassing but the last time I checked they're still the two time defending champions. They need to prove anything to anyone in the regular season. Sorry, but Dallas needs to make a trade if they're gonna beat the Lakers or Spurs. If they don't they they'll just choke in the 1st round again. Hell even if they do make a move they still may choke. Last year they made a big trade by trading for Butler and they lost in the 1st round.

The Lakers and Celtics the last two champions won their championships with at best average depth because they had great starting lineups.

[danielofthesaints]

Chandler a top 10 center? Oh boy you are showing your homerism. The dude is averaging 11 & 9 if those are top 10 numbers then the center position has really gotten weak. Kidd is washed up, the dude is shooting 36% which is the worst in the league for a starter if I'm not mistaken. He may get a lot of dimes, but he is a total liability on offense assists don't cover up his horrendous position on offense. Also LOL @ Roddy B being the next Tony Parker. What has he done, he averaged 7 ppg last year. He's shown to be a solid backup and nothing more. Yeah the Lakers lost to the Cavs which was embarassing but the last time I checked they're still the two time defending champions. They need to prove anything to anyone in the regular season. Sorry, but Dallas needs to make a trade if they're gonna beat the Lakers or Spurs. If they don't they they'll just choke in the 1st round again. Hell even if they do make a move they still may choke. Last year they made a big trade by trading for Butler and they lost in the 1st round.

The Lakers and Celtics the last two champions won their championships with at best average depth because they had great starting lineups.

Chandler: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?position=c&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics%3fposition%3dc Take it as you please, but +/- 2 positions he's a good center. You really think we need a scoring threat at center. Wrong. 11/9 is perfect. We needed him for his passion and defense that has been lacking for more than a decade.

Tony Parker's Rookie Season Stats 29.4 minutes a game/9.2 pts per game/4.3 assists

Roddy B's Rookie Season Stats 12.5 min per game/ 7.1 pts/ 1.3 asts

Your meaning to tell me Parker had 2.35x the amount of playing time and posted similar numbers. Back it up with facts before you lay the HOMER down. With Parkers playing time his rookie season, Roddy would have projected 22.7 pts a game/ 3.1 asts.

You are correct on Kidd having the lowest FG%, but really? You are taking the PG position and talking about FG%? Not the first thing that comes to mind when I think about why PG in this league are legitimate. All I care is that he's Top 10 in assists and brought veteran leadership to foster JJ Barea into a suitable backup PG. If the mavs played their best players to start the playoffs


PG: Kidd
SG: Terry
SF: Butler
PF: Dirk
C: Chandler

That's a pretty stellar starting lineup.
2nd team

PG: Barea
SG: Beaubois
SF, PF: Stevenson, Stojakovic, Marion
C: Haywood

Not too shabby.

How is last year or the last 2 years relevant to this year? Will the Cowboys choke this upcoming year because they've choked for the in past 21st century? Never really got that assumption of basing a team's performance on their past.

[xout]

Roddy looked great. If Butler comes back for the playoffs the west better look out.

[CATCH17]

Chandlers help defense is awesome.

Im loving our team right now. If we had Butler we'd be incredibly hard to beat.