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dcfanatic
11-02-2010, 11:36 PM
For some odd reason Jerry Jones thought it would be a good idea on his show today on 105.3 The Fan with Jagger and Henson that he let all of the fans know the Cowboys are a disgraceful 1-6 team who has 18 coaches on the team...

Jerry Jones Show - Nov 2nd (http://www.dallascowboys.com/mp3/executives/JerryJones_show_110210.mp3)

So who else is now more depressed that this team has 18 coaches in place and yet the players are playing so poorly that the head coach wants the team to go back to basics now?

I just want to bang my head against the wall until I no longer love this football team. But I know better than to do so because it will only harm me and lead to my having to do some sheetrocking work.

Why doesn't Jerry understand that keeping Wade Phillips is only angering the fans more and more.

Did he just try and deflect the attention away from the fact that Felix Jones can't catch by telling us that Leonard Davis made one good block in this game? That's just asinine. Last time I checked Davis is paid to block and Felix is paid to catch the football. So on that play someone didn't do their job. Simple.

ShiningStar
11-02-2010, 11:45 PM
For some odd reason Jerry Jones thought it would be a good idea on his show today on 105.3 The Fan with Jagger and Henson that he let all of the fans know the Cowboys are a disgraceful 1-6 team who has 18 coaches on the team...

Jerry Jones Show - Nov 2nd (http://www.dallascowboys.com/mp3/executives/JerryJones_show_110210.mp3)

So who else is now more depressed that this team has 18 coaches in place and yet the players are playing so poorly that the head coach wants the team to go back to basics now?

I just want to bang my head against the wall until I no longer love this football team. But I know better than to do so because it will only harm me and lead to my having to do some sheetrocking work.

Why doesn't Jerry understand that keeping Wade Phillips is only angering the fans more and more.

Did he just try and deflect the attention away from the fact that Felix Jones can't catch by telling us that Leonard Davis made one good block in this game? That's just asinine. Last time I checked Davis is paid to block and Felix is paid to catch the football. So on that play someone didn't do their job. Simple.


Its not just that Jerry wants to keep Wade around, he also has to go about all the other stuff and hopefully hes analyzing what isnt working and who is, Ray Sherman for example.

Its got to showcase something for the next coach he knows all eyes are on Dallas. He also probably doesnt want to destroy Wade in the process, i know its easy to bash from a distance, but Wade is human and maybe this is harder on him than we know.

DandyDon1722
11-03-2010, 12:50 AM
I don't get it either DC. Fans believe in and use phrases like tradition and excellence and Hall of Famers who wore the star because it's ingrained in us somehow, in some way with no agendas and no gain other than the love of the team.

Jerry uses these phrases as punch lines in a marketing brochure because his association has always been about agendas. Hell it's his day job...to make money. So he's in constant sell mode, he's a used car salesman with a team.

And therein lies the disconnect.

Ren
11-03-2010, 01:03 AM
The only 1 of those 18 i want to see back is Ray Sherman

InmanRoshi
11-03-2010, 01:12 AM
It has to do with the CBA, which is going to play a factor in how this plays out. Wade will be fired, but the CBA will play a factor in when it happens and who replaces him. As Sturm brought up, even if there is a lockout and no football Jerry has to pay all coaches and staff. He's going to have to pay Wade his 2011 salary even if he fires him. So on top of that is he also going to hire a Gruden or Cowher at $7-$8 million a year in January to sit around and twiddle their thumbs for a year? Does he wait until after the CBA has been resolved when they can actually go about assembling a roster? Does he hire them in January but tells them to hold off assembling their staff until the labor situation has been resolved? Does he have a staff of 18 people sitting around and doing nothing for a year and collecting paychecks. I know Garrett's contract is up in January. There's way more moving parts involved here than any any typical year.

Beast_from_East
11-03-2010, 04:38 AM
Keeping Wade around is like a big, huge, gigantic "**** YOU" to the fans.

Seriously, its like Jerry is on the big screen flipping us all off.


:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

sago1
11-03-2010, 08:16 AM
Wade is the HC and the bullseye is squarely on him; he's the reason/symbol why the team (along with need for better players on the OL, etc) in the eyes of most fans for how poorly the Cowboys are playing. Once he's gone the fans' anger will lessen a little. Most understand only decision Jerry can then make is to name Garrett as Interim HC. Except for then naming a new interim DC & probably an interim OC, that would suffice for all the changes we could expect from Jerry until the season is over.

Jerry's failure/unwillingness to accept that in Cowboy fans' mind Wade bears a huge responsibility (along with Jerry himself) for what has happened to this team. Jerry's going to find out that the longer is waits to fire Wade the longer and growing will be the anger toward Jerry himself (ineptitutde as a GM) and the team. With Jerry's ego not sure anyone can convince him to get rid of Wade except an almost empty stadium, or a huge rally in Arlington/Dallas with fans wearing brown bags etc denouncing Wade & Jerry.

Yeagermeister
11-03-2010, 08:19 AM
18 coaches is fine but if those coaches aren't worth a crap who cares. :eek:

CATCH17
11-03-2010, 08:19 AM
For some odd reason Jerry Jones thought it would be a good idea on his show today on 105.3 The Fan with Jagger and Henson that he let all of the fans know the Cowboys are a disgraceful 1-6 team who has 18 coaches on the team...

Jerry Jones Show - Nov 2nd (http://www.dallascowboys.com/mp3/executives/JerryJones_show_110210.mp3)

So who else is now more depressed that this team has 18 coaches in place and yet the players are playing so poorly that the head coach wants the team to go back to basics now?

I just want to bang my head against the wall until I no longer love this football team. But I know better than to do so because it will only harm me and lead to my having to do some sheetrocking work.

Why doesn't Jerry understand that keeping Wade Phillips is only angering the fans more and more.

Did he just try and deflect the attention away from the fact that Felix Jones can't catch by telling us that Leonard Davis made one good block in this game? That's just asinine. Last time I checked Davis is paid to block and Felix is paid to catch the football. So on that play someone didn't do their job. Simple.

Don't worry DC this is the last week of Wade Phillips. He'll be gone just in time for Jerry to create a buzz for his next home game and sell some tickets.

garrett316
11-03-2010, 08:23 AM
More double talk and non-sensical rambling from the snake oil salesman.

That Leonard Davis part is typical Jethro.

casmith07
11-03-2010, 08:31 AM
18 coaches and not one strong voice.

CATCH17
11-03-2010, 08:35 AM
18 coaches and not one strong voice.

Jerry is the strong voice :(


Thats why its better to bite the bullett and tank and have a real coach come in and do things the right way.


We can't let Jerry have an excuse to hire another Phillips type coach ever again.

We need someone to counter the circus that comes with playing for this franchise.

DallasGirl50
11-03-2010, 08:47 AM
Jerry is such a silly man.

MichaelWinicki
11-03-2010, 08:55 AM
Firing Wade right now isn't going to make it easy for any potential coach to build a staff.

It's hard enough finding a good choice as a head coach in the middle of a season– Good luck trying to build an entire staff in November.

CooterBrown
11-03-2010, 09:02 AM
It has to do with the CBA, which is going to play a factor in how this plays out. Wade will be fired, but the CBA will play a factor in when it happens and who replaces him. As Sturm brought up, even if there is a lockout and no football Jerry has to pay all coaches and staff. He's going to have to pay Wade his 2011 salary even if he fires him. So on top of that is he also going to hire a Gruden or Cowher at $7-$8 million a year in January to sit around and twiddle their thumbs for a year? Does he wait until after the CBA has been resolved when they can actually go about assembling a roster? Does he hire them in January but tells them to hold off assembling their staff until the labor situation has been resolved? Does he have a staff of 18 people sitting around and doing nothing for a year and collecting paychecks. I know Garrett's contract is up in January. There's way more moving parts involved here than any any typical year.

Even if there isn't a season in 2011, there will be a draft. I would think that if Jerry is going to change coaches he would want to do so before the draft. Of course, that would be presuming that Jerry is gonna let the chef buy some of the groceries.

InmanRoshi
11-03-2010, 09:04 AM
There's no one on the staff to hand the job off too, unless you want Paully P as the head coach. Jason Garrett doesn't want it. His contract ends in January and he's going to go off to peddle his wares elsewhere for another OC, he's not going to want to sully his resume and damage his reputation any more by being an interim HC on a team without a QB that has given up on the year and has a brutal schedule.

DallasGirl50
11-03-2010, 09:05 AM
And right now what we have is a team that has quit on their coach and their fans as well so why not try something else? Do anything. It can't be any more painful than what we're tossing out there masquerading as an NFL team named the Cowboys. Why prolong the agony? Cause we can't win? We're not winning anyway.

I think that's the fan's frustration. They're just sitting pat because well it's just the way teams operate. Ok they're going back to fundamentals. Little too late for that..that's training camp stuff. They cut some LB that wasn't doing anything anyway. Just another Jerry draft bust. We're use to that.

Jerry talks alot but nothing changes. He's so sad. He's so mad. He's so embarrassed. He's so this. He's so that. He's going to do this. He's going to do that. And yet at the end of the day nothing changes.

InmanRoshi
11-03-2010, 09:12 AM
Even if there isn't a season in 2011, there will be a draft. I would think that if Jerry is going to change coaches he would want to do so before the draft. Of course, that would be presuming that Jerry is gonna let the chef buy some of the groceries.

According to Adam...

The current CBA provides for one (a 2011 draft), but it appears that the union will decertify and render the CBA moot before that, if there is no new agreement in place.

superonyx
11-03-2010, 10:41 AM
I think it is because Jerry has a heart bigger than most here give him credit for.

It's so easy to type on a message board tough guy talk about "fire everyone!!" but if it was you and you knew 18 coaches and their families were all going to be put in a financially uncomfortable position then you may have a more difficult time Than you think.

Has anyone here ever fired someone? Have you ever had to look in the eyes of a man who's family is relying on for support and tell him he no longer has a job? It is not as easy as it is to beat on your chest on a message board or blog.

I understand Jerry and do believe he feels pain by doing this. And firing a whole staff mid season will only hurt their chances in the future of finding a good job. It's not just Wade or Garrett. It's 18 families. Jerry probably knows many of them personally.

Also it doesn't help us for Jerry to fire everyone right now. He will do it and find a new coach for next season. For all we know he already has the person picked. But they won't take the job until after the season.

InmanRoshi
11-03-2010, 10:44 AM
I think it is because Jerry has a heart bigger than most here give him credit for.

It's so easy to type on a message board tough guy talk about "fire everyone!!" but if it was you and you knew 18 coaches and their families were all going to be put in a financially uncomfortable position then you may have a more difficult time Than you think.

Has anyone here ever fired someone? Have you ever had to look in the eyes of a man who's family is relying on for support and tell him he no longer has a job? It is not as easy as it is to beat on your chest on a message board or blog.

I understand Jerry and do believe he feels pain by doing this. And firing a whole staff mid season will only hurt their chances in the future of finding a good job. It's not just Wade or Garrett. It's 18 families. Jerry probably knows many of them personally.

Also it doesn't help us for Jerry to fire everyone right now. He will do it and find a new coach for next season. For all we know he already has the person picked. But they won't take the job until after the season.

Well said. People forget this isn't Madden or fantasy football, there are human dynamics involved. There is a reason why midseason coaching changes are almost unheard of, particularly with people coming in from the outside.

After this week the Cowboys have 3 games in 11 days, they're barely going to have enough time to practice and game prep, much less transition in a new coach.

Kangaroo
11-03-2010, 10:58 AM
Well said. People forget this isn't Madden or fantasy football, there are human dynamics involved. There is a reason why midseason coaching changes are almost unheard of, particularly with people coming in from the outside.

After this week the Cowboys have 3 games in 11 days, they're barely going to have enough time to practice and game prep, much less transition in a new coach.

I do not want an outside coach at this time (end of the season is for whole sale coaching change) I like to see Garret take the reigns or some other coach on the roster.

This team has totally quit on Wade and he is not going to get them back

Double Trouble
11-03-2010, 10:59 AM
:laugh2: Hire a few more so each player can have his own personal coach.

dmq
11-03-2010, 11:08 AM
Jerry will wait around while all the best candidates are snatched up. Much like how he didn't want to sign anyone in the offseason while teams that had needs threw caution to the wind on the collective bargaining agreement and signed players.

InmanRoshi
11-03-2010, 11:26 AM
I do not want an outside coach at this time (end of the season is for whole sale coaching change) I like to see Garret take the reigns or some other coach on the roster.

I highly doubt Garrett would take the interim job.

The Cons far, far, far outweigh the Pros.

InmanRoshi
11-03-2010, 11:27 AM
Jerry will wait around while all the best candidates are snatched up. Much like how he didn't want to sign anyone in the offseason while teams that had needs threw caution to the wind on the collective bargaining agreement and signed players.

Who's been hired already?

DallasGirl50
11-03-2010, 11:35 AM
The only people I feel sorry for are the fans who are and have paid hard earned money to watch this team and are certainly not getting anything close to what they paid to see. You know them. The fans that sacrifice other things to be able to afford season tickets and parking. The overpriced food and beverages. Gas to the stadium. Those are the people that I feel sorry for.

visionary
11-03-2010, 11:37 AM
the reason WP is not fired is because JJ wants him to take the fall and wants to make JG the HC next year. if he makes JG interim HC it will leave JG with a new DC and having to do the duties of OC and HC. and then at the end of the year, the team will suck and JG would have to go along with WP.

JJ is thinking:

he will fire WP at the end of the season and can point to this firing to say, "see, I made changes"

fans will buy into the whole "JG did not have control" "give him a year as HC" crap

make JG HC next year
Norv gets fired in SD and comes as OC
DC from inside or outside
JJ still gets to be the real HC and get it done "his way"

get used to it, as someone said, this is a used car salesman you are dealing with.

wileedog
11-03-2010, 11:37 AM
There's no one on the staff to hand the job off too, unless you want Paully P as the head coach. Jason Garrett doesn't want it. His contract ends in January and he's going to go off to peddle his wares elsewhere for another OC, he's not going to want to sully his resume and damage his reputation any more by being an interim HC on a team without a QB that has given up on the year and has a brutal schedule.

The more I think about it, the more I agree with this. Garrett has already said no, making the slim chance of a HC change impossible.

Wonder if he winds up back in Miami next year.

nalam
11-03-2010, 11:48 AM
why does Houck has a job still ?

he is the biggest failure and Jerry didn't do the boy's any favors by shoving him down Wade's throat. Look even Pat McQ is holding the starting job in Miami ( Sparano was a better line coach and OC than what we have now )