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dcfanatic
11-11-2010, 07:52 PM
Tim MacMahon from ESPN Dallas.com is kind of a big dude and it seems like Orlando Scandrick is upset with his coverage of the Cowboys recently...

TMac talks about shouting match with Scandrick (http://app.quickblogcast.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/gac_tmacscan.mp3)

How about Orlando Scandrick starts focusing his attention on playing better instead of worrying about what the local media is saying about their performance these days. And how in the world would Scandrick even have any argument about the secondary, and him in particular, which looks like they are playing at a high school level right now.

TMac is right. These players are sensitive and the argument about no one being able to criticize them because they never played in the NFL is just a punk excuse. How come these players are always willing to accept the praise from these same people when things are going well?

Orlando Scandrick needs to be moved to Safety. He ran a great 40 time at the combine and so what? When a WR gets up on him his reaction time to follow the direction the WR is moving to is slow and robotic. As a Safety he won't have to be as 'smooth' of a player. He's also known as a student of the game so that should help him in diagnosing what offenses are doing from the Safety spot as opposed to his job being all about playing man to man on slot WR's.

Apollo Creed
11-11-2010, 07:55 PM
I knew we were doomed with Scandrick the minute June Jones said he was the best corner in the draft.

I also think the proposition of him going to safety is terrible. We need to severely upgrade our secondary with a top pick and a potential pricey FA. No more stop gaps, we need playmakers back there. It's incredible how much better your corners look when you're generating a pass rush and your safeties can cover.

BlueStar3398
11-11-2010, 07:57 PM
Orlando can take him.

ThreeandOut
11-11-2010, 08:14 PM
Orlando can take him.

Yeah, but can he cover him?

chip_gilkey
11-11-2010, 08:16 PM
Yeah, but can he cover him?

HIYOOOO!!!!! Im guessing scandrick was jealous of macmahon's coverage abilites, hence his aggression to mask his jealousy.

Eskimo
11-11-2010, 08:21 PM
I really liked what I saw of Teddy Williams in the preseason. I wouldn't mind releasing Ball and having a look at him. He was big, fast and aggressive. It would certainly send a message to Scandrick and Jenkins.

BraveHeartFan
11-11-2010, 09:50 PM
Yeah, but can he cover him?


No but he'd be right there to tackle him after he caught the ball in front of him.

bbgun
11-11-2010, 09:51 PM
Comically easy to complete a pass on him. Gives me flashbacks to Ron Fellows.

Doomsay
11-11-2010, 10:06 PM
No but he'd be right there to tackle him after he caught the ball in front of him.

And then snap his femur.

bootyhunta
11-11-2010, 11:56 PM
I don't like Scandrick, but I REALLY don't like Timmy 'Tabloid' McMachon. His personality just rubs me the wrong way. Not sure why... and this is coming from someone who would have cut Scandrick weeks ago.

CowboyMike
11-12-2010, 12:25 AM
It figures you'd be on the media's side on this one, DC. Scandrick's not having a good season, just like the rest of the team, but the media has pushed it over the top and has been doing it way too long now.

Just listening to that clip and the disrespect they all have sickens me. Other team's don't have to spar and constantly fight off their own hometown media like the Cowboys do. It has to get old and it looks like it finally reached the boiling point.

What Galloway said at the end about McMahon is the pure definition of the Dallas Media, "He's controversial. Hated. And that's why we like him." Sad.

MarionBarberThe4th
11-12-2010, 12:55 AM
Comically easy to complete a pass on him. Gives me flashbacks to Ron Fellows.

I think I saw where he is literally the worst DB in the league, of those who see the field

rocyaice
11-12-2010, 04:32 AM
Scandrick and Jenkins have both struggled. I'm not willing to get rid of them yet. I think they deserve one more year under a new coach.

Ren
11-12-2010, 05:53 AM
Every time this team fails to preform they always seem to take it out on the media :laugh2:

superonyx
11-12-2010, 06:51 AM
I hate to side with the Media but in this case i am going to have to. The media may be dramatic and look to stir things up at times. And the media is like any other business. Its about ratings so they do what they have to do to create ratings. Better ratings equals better pay for them. So I get it. I know why they do it. If I were in the media I would probably do the same thing.

As far as Scandrick.... The part about him say he makes so much more money than the reporter so the reporter has no right to criticize is repulsive. Its just disgusting to hear someone that is so fortunate as to make a living playing a game to try and smack a regular guy in the mouth with his paycheck. Its reminds me of Randy Moss recently when Moss told the caterer how nice it is to be so rich that he doesnt have to eat that crap anymore. Its tasteless.

I will try to cut him a little slack. Because it sounds like he doesnt have the mental firepower to spar with someone on a civil level. He probably felt embarrassed by the exchange and didnt really know what else to say. So he fell back on a salary comparison.

But its still terrible to hear. These guys didnt have a problem when the media had all of them going to the superbowl preseason. They are 1-7 and they deserve the criticism of a 1-7 team.

In fact we have become such a joke that the Vikings player saying we would never lay down like the cowboys and then another player saying the Bills may not have won a game but at least they wont quit the cowboys. How embarrassing. Especially for a team that should be playing in a superbowl. Instead they are so mentally weak they got their coach fired. And now are attacking reporters with their paychecks.

Send a message to the team.....Cut him.

Boyzmamacita
11-12-2010, 07:04 AM
Send a message to the team.....Cut him.


Cut Scandrick for having an argument with T-Mac's stupid behind? Please. If you can't see how ridiculous the Dallas media is, I don't know what to tell you. When the Cowboys were winning (remember 13-3, 11-5, good ole days?), these same reporters had nothing positive to say about the team. They have an agenda and the players are tired of it. The Cowboys are struggling and the players are under tremendous pressure. You think they want to lose? They didn't lay down. They are baffled by what is happening and it shows on their faces. Let's not forget that they are human and have emotions like the rest of us. Imagine some reporter criticizing your job performance constantly when you're already under tremendous pressure. An argument just might ensue regardless of who is right or wrong.

superonyx
11-12-2010, 07:31 AM
Cut Scandrick for having an argument with T-Mac's stupid behind? Please. If you can't see how ridiculous the Dallas media is, I don't know what to tell you. When the Cowboys were winning (remember 13-3, 11-5, good ole days?), these same reporters had nothing positive to say about the team. They have an agenda and the players are tired of it. The Cowboys are struggling and the players are under tremendous pressure. You think they want to lose? They didn't lay down. They are baffled by what is happening and it shows on their faces. Let's not forget that they are human and have emotions like the rest of us. Imagine some reporter criticizing your job performance constantly when you're already under tremendous pressure. An argument just might ensue regardless of who is right or wrong.

Cut him because he sucks.....and he is obviously an ungrateful A hole. I live in the Philly market and if you want to see tough reporters then this place takes the prize.

They didnt lay down? Really? Which game are you watching. There are only 2 possible scenarios for their performance.

1. They laid down.
2. They are the least talented team in the league.

Like it or not one of those things has to be true. We have the worst defense in the league. And one of the worst defenders on the worst defense wants to get all sensitive and use his paycheck to make himself feel superior to a reporter. And you are obviously ok with this?

It is part of making all that money. You get media criticism(and fan criticism). If you cant take it then find another line of work. I'm sure many fortune 100 companies are willing to fire their CEO's for Mr. Scandrick.

I will not feel sorry for them and their feelings. Just like I wont feel sorry for a celebrity like Jennifer Anniston when a paparatzzi takes topless picks of her sunbathing. (and because I want to see them).

It is the job of the reporters to stir things up. Like it or not that is how they feed their kids. Thats how they make this low salary Scandrick likes to use against them. The reality is if people didnt want to hear drama and negative reporting then they would write it. They are filling a demand.
What demand is Scandrick filling? Who wants to watch the worst defense in the league dramatically underperform and embarrass themselves every weak?

McMahon may be an A hole too. But he is doing his job. Scandrick is failing miserably at his. So it is a bit offending to hear an overpaid backup player on the worst team and the worst defense in the league use how much money he makes to try and put down another man who is actually succeeding in his chosen profession.

Chuck 54
11-12-2010, 07:47 AM
I think Scandrick is playing better than most fans want to give him credit for. Covering the slot guy is still the toughest job in the secondary. You lose your leverage because you have no sideline...the receiver can go either way, and he has plenty of LBs and referees and TEs to use for screens. These guys are not wide open...he's usually right on them, making the tackle immediately. The problem is we get no pass rush, no push up the middle, and we never bat down any passes, and our ILBs stink in coverage and the blitz...Qb's have clear vision over the middle against our team.

Watch all the other teams in the NFL...the slot receiver makes most of the 3rd down catches for first downs.

When Newman played the slot, he gave up plays too and people griped...once Scandrick started playing the slot and leaving Newman on the outside, suddenly Newman's career seemed to have a resurgence.

If Scandrick was nearly as bad as people think, we'd go back to his rookie year and before when Newman played on the outside against 2 wideouts but slipped to the inside slot against 3 wideouts with Ball or Jenkins coming in to play the outside.

basstapp
11-12-2010, 07:49 AM
I really liked what I saw of Teddy Williams in the preseason. I wouldn't mind releasing Ball and having a look at him. He was big, fast and aggressive. It would certainly send a message to Scandrick and Jenkins.


you dont release ball because he is a corner not a safety. If Witten tried to be an olinemen would you release because he didnt perform... no you would put him back where he belongs... TE... Same goes for ball move him to corner shift Scandrick to Safety

jimmy40
11-12-2010, 08:04 AM
It figures you'd be on the media's side on this one, DC. Scandrick's not having a good season, just like the rest of the team, but the media has pushed it over the top and has been doing it way too long now.

Just listening to that clip and the disrespect they all have sickens me. Other team's don't have to spar and constantly fight off their own hometown media like the Cowboys do. It has to get old and it looks like it finally reached the boiling point.

What Galloway said at the end about McMahon is the pure definition of the Dallas Media, "He's controversial. Hated. And that's why we like him." Sad.The New York media would make Scandrick cry.

Coakleys Dad
11-12-2010, 08:11 AM
Cut him because he sucks.....and he is obviously an ungrateful A hole. I live in the Philly market and if you want to see tough reporters then this place takes the prize.

They didnt lay down? Really? Which game are you watching. There are only 2 possible scenarios for their performance.

1. They laid down.
2. They are the least talented team in the league.

Like it or not one of those things has to be true. We have the worst defense in the league. And one of the worst defenders on the worst defense wants to get all sensitive and use his paycheck to make himself feel superior to a reporter. And you are obviously ok with this?

It is part of making all that money. You get media criticism(and fan criticism). If you cant take it then find another line of work. I'm sure many fortune 100 companies are willing to fire their CEO's for Mr. Scandrick.

I will not feel sorry for them and their feelings. Just like I wont feel sorry for a celebrity like Jennifer Anniston when a paparatzzi takes topless picks of her sunbathing. (and because I want to see them).

It is the job of the reporters to stir things up. Like it or not that is how they feed their kids. Thats how they make this low salary Scandrick likes to use against them. The reality is if people didnt want to hear drama and negative reporting then they would write it. They are filling a demand.
What demand is Scandrick filling? Who wants to watch the worst defense in the league dramatically underperform and embarrass themselves every weak?

McMahon may be an A hole too. But he is doing his job. Scandrick is failing miserably at his. So it is a bit offending to hear an overpaid backup player on the worst team and the worst defense in the league use how much money he makes to try and put down another man who is actually succeeding in his chosen profession.
spot on.

gmoney112
11-12-2010, 11:01 AM
Scandrick would murder Tim. He's a professional football player, MacMahon is a professional couch potato.

MacMahon writes a lot of checks his *** can't cash.

CowboyMike
11-12-2010, 11:52 AM
Cut Scandrick for having an argument with T-Mac's stupid behind? Please. If you can't see how ridiculous the Dallas media is, I don't know what to tell you. When the Cowboys were winning (remember 13-3, 11-5, good ole days?), these same reporters had nothing positive to say about the team. They have an agenda and the players are tired of it. The Cowboys are struggling and the players are under tremendous pressure. You think they want to lose? They didn't lay down. They are baffled by what is happening and it shows on their faces. Let's not forget that they are human and have emotions like the rest of us. Imagine some reporter criticizing your job performance constantly when you're already under tremendous pressure. An argument just might ensue regardless of who is right or wrong.

Amen. +1

tyke1doe
11-12-2010, 11:55 AM
Yeah, but can he cover him?

:lmao2:

That was the best retort I've seen on these boards in a while. Kudos, man.

tyke1doe
11-12-2010, 11:57 AM
Cut him because he sucks.....and he is obviously an ungrateful A hole. I live in the Philly market and if you want to see tough reporters then this place takes the prize.

They didnt lay down? Really? Which game are you watching. There are only 2 possible scenarios for their performance.

1. They laid down.
2. They are the least talented team in the league.

Like it or not one of those things has to be true. We have the worst defense in the league. And one of the worst defenders on the worst defense wants to get all sensitive and use his paycheck to make himself feel superior to a reporter. And you are obviously ok with this?

It is part of making all that money. You get media criticism(and fan criticism). If you cant take it then find another line of work. I'm sure many fortune 100 companies are willing to fire their CEO's for Mr. Scandrick.

I will not feel sorry for them and their feelings. Just like I wont feel sorry for a celebrity like Jennifer Anniston when a paparatzzi takes topless picks of her sunbathing. (and because I want to see them).

It is the job of the reporters to stir things up. Like it or not that is how they feed their kids. Thats how they make this low salary Scandrick likes to use against them. The reality is if people didnt want to hear drama and negative reporting then they would write it. They are filling a demand.
What demand is Scandrick filling? Who wants to watch the worst defense in the league dramatically underperform and embarrass themselves every weak?

McMahon may be an A hole too. But he is doing his job. Scandrick is failing miserably at his. So it is a bit offending to hear an overpaid backup player on the worst team and the worst defense in the league use how much money he makes to try and put down another man who is actually succeeding in his chosen profession.

Someone who gets it.

tyke1doe
11-12-2010, 11:59 AM
It figures you'd be on the media's side on this one, DC. Scandrick's not having a good season, just like the rest of the team, but the media has pushed it over the top and has been doing it way too long now.

Just listening to that clip and the disrespect they all have sickens me. Other team's don't have to spar and constantly fight off their own hometown media like the Cowboys do. It has to get old and it looks like it finally reached the boiling point.

What Galloway said at the end about McMahon is the pure definition of the Dallas Media, "He's controversial. Hated. And that's why we like him." Sad.

Have you ever lived in New York City, Philadelphia and Washington, D.C.?

links18
11-12-2010, 12:14 PM
Have you ever lived in New York City, Philadelphia and Washington, D.C.?

BOO HOO, the media hates us......:laugh2:

63echo
11-12-2010, 12:36 PM
What a sensitive, whiny little team we have here. If they're not lashing out at the media, they're out-and-out hiding from them.

An idea that's already been floated out there: don't play like a 1-7 team, and you won't get treated like a 1-7 team.

Like others have said, I have very, very little sympathy for those that choose to be in the public eye, get paid ridiculous amounts of money for it, and then complain about it. Movie star, NFL player, musician, it's all the same to me.

BHendri5
11-12-2010, 03:43 PM
I'll take Scandrick

dcfanatic
11-12-2010, 03:52 PM
It figures you'd be on the media's side on this one, DC. Scandrick's not having a good season, just like the rest of the team, but the media has pushed it over the top and has been doing it way too long now.

Just listening to that clip and the disrespect they all have sickens me. Other team's don't have to spar and constantly fight off their own hometown media like the Cowboys do. It has to get old and it looks like it finally reached the boiling point.

What Galloway said at the end about McMahon is the pure definition of the Dallas Media, "He's controversial. Hated. And that's why we like him." Sad.

So it's Tmac's fault the Cowboys can't stop the pass? lol.

If they want him to write great stuff about how their defense is playing then they should start playing great defense.

It's a very simple formula.

And you were one of Wade's biggest supporters so it's not a surprise you are taking the side of whining player going after a writer instead of focusing his attentions on playing better.

What happened to your non sensical 'Wade spit in the parking lot...' comment that was in your sig?

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

dcfanatic
11-12-2010, 03:54 PM
Have you ever lived in New York City, Philadelphia and Washington, D.C.?

He's typical.

Team stinks. Blame everyone else but the team.

Homerism.

Even at 1-7 some people will not give it up.