You're on the Clock for the 2011 Draft. Who do you Pick?

[CowboyMcCoy]

And the Dallas Cowboys select.....

Any player you want. Who would be the best next Dallas Cowboy? Why?

Let's have us a Cowboys' draft discussion.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Round 1: DeMarcus Love
Round 2: Mike Pouncey

[Christiann]

1. Patrick Peterson
2. Mike Pouncey or Deunta Williams

[UnoDallas]

1 CB Brandon Harris Maimi 5-11 #195 – or CB Ras-I Dowling, Virginia – both should be picked in the twentys

trade down get a extra 3rd or 4 rder that pick should be one of these guys

OG Steve Schilling Mich 6-5 #297
C/G John Moffitt Wis 6-3 #320
C Kristofer O'Dowd USC 6-4 #300
NT Phil Taylor Bay 6-4 #350
DT Drake Nevis LSU 6-1 #290
DT Cedric Thornton, junior, 6-5, 265

2 ISLB Quan Sturdivant ILB, North Carolina – 6-2 #235

[batman36]

Patrick Peterson, corner, LSU. Makes an immediate impact in the kicking game (kick returner, or punt returner should the Cowboys choose not to use Dez there because of his starting role. And at worst, he's the number three corner until he's ready to start.

[Beast_from_East]

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[CowboyMcCoy]

If we go CB, I try to snatch Curtis Brown in the 2nd. He's got 4.4 speed.

[Beast_from_East]

If we go CB, I try to snatch Curtis Brown in the 2nd. He's got 4.4 speed.

Dude, Peterson is going to be a freaking stud in the NFL. He is considered one of the best corners to come out in years, think Revis for comparison!!!

I rank him as the 2nd best player in the entire draft behind Luck.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Dude, Peterson is going to be a freaking stud in the NFL. He is considered one of the best corners to come out in years, think Revis for comparison!!!

I rank him as the 2nd best player in the entire draft behind Luck.

With our o-line problems, I can't see us doing it. But if we go BPA, he may still be there. I'm thinking CB in the 2nd. There are a lot of corners this year.

[koolaid]

Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

[UnoDallas]

Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

I could see us grabbing him in the 2 as a RT

but why when we can draft a RT in the later rounds

[Beast_from_East]

With our o-line problems, I can't see us doing it. But if we go BPA, he may still be there. I'm thinking CB in the 2nd. There are a lot of corners this year.

Our o-line does need fixing, it is crap right now. I know it may be tempting to trade down out of the top 5 and stock pile multiple picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and draft linemen, but dam that is going to suck if we pass on Peterson if he is available while we are on the clock.

Thats like passing on Moss back in the day to select Ellis. He turned out to be a good player, but he was never a difference maker like Moss was. Same thing here, I would hate to pass over Peterson (who will probably be the next Revis) for a couple of linemen that are just good, but nothing special.

It going to be fun picking this high (hopefully the last time for a long time).;)

[UnoDallas]

With our o-line problems, I can't see us doing it. But if we go BPA, he may still be there. I'm thinking CB in the 2nd. There are a lot of corners this year.

so what pick are you taking these O line at ?

Round 1: DeMarcus Love
Round 2: Mike Pouncey

Love will be lucky to make the first round

Demarcus Love, OT, Arkansas
Height: 6-5. Weight: 315.
Projected 40 Time: 4.96.
Projected Round (2011): 3-4.
10/2/10: Love is a developmental tackle at the next level. He has the physical tools, but he gets out of control and has no balance. He doesn't know how to use his hands, has bad instincts and has poor footwork.

you want first rd LT go

Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05.
Projected Round (2011): top ten
10/2/10: Sherrod has been impressive this season with his strength, footwork, and hand extension. He is technically sound, moves well laterally, and has good range. He has more upside than Castonzo and could very well pass him before the year is up.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Our o-line does need fixing, it is crap right now. I know it may be tempting to trade down out of the top 5 and stock pile multiple picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and draft linemen, but dam that is going to suck if we pass on Peterson if he is available while we are on the clock.

Thats like passing on Moss back in the day to select Ellis. He turned out to be a good player, but he was never a difference maker like Moss was. Same thing here, I would hate to pass over Peterson (who will probably be the next Revis) for a couple of linemen that are just good, but nothing special.

It going to be fun picking this high (hopefully the last time for a long time).;)

I wouldn't be opposed to taking Peterson. But then I'd have to go FA to get a LT, so I could put Free back on the right side. I'm also looking for a guard who can play center or vice versa. That's why I like Mike Pouncey in the 2nd.

[CowboyMcCoy]

so what pick are you taking these O line at ?

Round 1: DeMarcus Love
Round 2: Mike Pouncey

Love will be lucky to make the first round

Demarcus Love, OT, Arkansas
Height: 6-5. Weight: 315.
Projected 40 Time: 4.96.
Projected Round (2011): 3-4.
10/2/10: Love is a developmental tackle at the next level. He has the physical tools, but he gets out of control and has no balance. He doesn't know how to use his hands, has bad instincts and has poor footwork.

you want first rd LT go

Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05.
Projected Round (2011): top ten
10/2/10: Sherrod has been impressive this season with his strength, footwork, and hand extension. He is technically sound, moves well laterally, and has good range. He has more upside than Castonzo and could very well pass him before the year is up.

I'm not certain which round. But I like Love based on what I've read. I'm open for being sold on other guys, which is why I started the thread.

I can see us going after either CB or OL in the first, but I can't see us drafting any other position.

Correct me if you think I'm wrong.

[UnoDallas]

I hope Pouncy never has to play center

hes piss poor at it


heres your guy John Moffitt, G/C, Wisconsin
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
Projected Round (2011): 3-4.

I guess you never watch Big Ten football

[Beast_from_East]

I wouldn't be opposed to taking Peterson. But then I'd have to go FA to get a LT, so I could put Free back on the right side. I'm also looking for a guard who can play center or vice versa. That's why I like Mike Pouncey in the 2nd.

You looking for a guard? Problem solved:

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/Matt-Light_IA.jpg

[UnoDallas]

You looking for a guard? Problem solved:

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/Matt-Light_IA.jpg (http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/Matt-Light_IA.jpg)


that be a quick fix

I expect Jerry to buy at least one O lineman this year

[CowboyMcCoy]

that be a quick fix

I expect Jerry to buy at least one O lineman this year

Likewise.

[REDVOLUTION]

I dont know names but I know we need to address the trenches.

1 OL
1 DE

[Ren]

Our o-line does need fixing, it is crap right now. I know it may be tempting to trade down out of the top 5 and stock pile multiple picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and draft linemen, but dam that is going to suck if we pass on Peterson if he is available while we are on the clock.

Thats like passing on Moss back in the day to select Ellis. He turned out to be a good player, but he was never a difference maker like Moss was. Same thing here, I would hate to pass over Peterson (who will probably be the next Revis) for a couple of linemen that are just good, but nothing special.

It going to be fun picking this high (hopefully the last time for a long time).;)

If you look at our recent draft history when trading down for more picks i don't see how that could be even remotely tempting at this point, we've been awful drafting around rounds 2 and 3

[hookemhorns72]

Marcell Dareus would be a stud no matter what defense Dallas runs next year. Peterson would be great to have but if we're picking outside top 3, I don't think we'll get him. Don't re-sign Spears! What do y'all think about moving Ware to a DE? Draft or sign a FA ,a big body hole plugger. OL needs repair and depth added. But CBs are thin too. Not Pouncey! He couldn't hike the ball to the Florida QB in shotgun!

[TheCount]

With our o-line problems, I can't see us doing it. But if we go BPA, he may still be there. I'm thinking CB in the 2nd. There are a lot of corners this year.

When you pick as high as we'll be picking, you take a player worthy of the spot, not just a player that fits your biggest need.

If we took a non-franchise type OL with a top 5 pick, I'd be pissed.

My votes are in my sig:

1. Marcell Dareus, DE, Alabama
2. Mike Pouncey, OG/C, Florida
3. Robert Sands, FS, West Virginia

[CowboyMcCoy]

When you pick as high as we'll be picking, you take a player worthy of the spot, not just a player that fits your biggest need.

If we took a non-franchise type OL with a top 5 pick, I'd be pissed.

My votes are in my sig:

1. Marcell Dareus, DE, Alabama
2. Mike Pouncey, OG/C, Florida
3. Robert Sands, FS, West Virginia

Yeah, I really like Pouncey in the 2nd too. His brother is a bad man, single handedly beat us in the Championship game.

[UnoDallas]

Yeah, I really like Pouncey in the 2nd too. His brother is a bad man, single handedly beat us in the Championship game.

who is they the Cowboys - lol

if there one team I hate more than UT its Florida

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[Chris in Arizona]

anyone? I go
1st Patrick Peterson CB LSU
2nd Stefen Wisniewski C/G Penn State
3rd Stanley Havili FB USC

Realistically, I think we will be drafting closer to 10th so I'll say
Tyron Smith T USC

[MarionBarberThe4th]

F FB's.

We going 3 wide on they *****!

[TheCount]

anyone? I go
1st Patrick Peterson CB LSU
2nd Stefen Wisniewski C/G Penn State
3rd Stanley Havili FB USC

Realistically, I think we will be drafting closer to 10th so I'll say
Tyron Smith T USC


FB in the 3rd huh? The only thing worst than a FB in the third would be another TE in the 2nd.

[SDogo]

Peterson, Peterson, Peterson............

[TheCoolFan]

I would switch to a 4-3 and take Akeem Ayers

[Manwiththeplan]

I would switch to a 4-3 and take Akeem Ayers

this is wrong for so many reasons

[realtick]

I don't get the love for Marcel Dareus.

I'm convinced some fans just go to there favorite draft website and see his name towards the top and say "hey, he must be good and we need DL help!"

[Chris in Arizona]

I don't get the love for Marcel Dareus.

I'm convinced some fans just go to there favorite draft website and see his name towards the top and say "hey, he must be good and we need DL help!"

A lot of Boys fans are also Longhorn fans so they saw Dareus break their golden boy McCoy, so they think he must be awesome.

[realtick]

A lot of Boys fans are also Longhorn fans so they saw Dareus break their golden boy McCoy, so they think he must be awesome.

Ah, you're right, lol, I forgot about that. Makes a lot of more sense now.

[UnoDallas]

I don't get the love for Marcel Dareus.

I'm convinced some fans just go to there favorite draft website and see his name towards the top and say "hey, he must be good and we need DL help!"

me either

I know hes a presence on the D line

just not mine

[koolaid]

I hope Pouncy never has to play center

hes piss poor at it


heres your guy John Moffitt, G/C, Wisconsin
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
Projected Round (2011): 3-4.

I guess you never watch Big Ten football




My friend nearly got his *** kicked by Moffitt for talking **** about Tolzien. Funny Story.

[TheCount]

I don't get the love for Marcel Dareus.

I'm convinced some fans just go to there favorite draft website and see his name towards the top and say "hey, he must be good and we need DL help!"

lol, because outside of the people that like Dareus, everyone around here is a real draft pro.

People pick players they like, especially in November, not that hard to understand.

[BraveHeartFan]

I don't know who, at what position yet, but I know we need to come out of the draft with at least 1 of each of the follow:

OL
DL
CB
S

I do really love the CB from LSU, Peterson. The kid just looks like he could be a real star at the NFL level. I'd LOVE to have him out there as the #3 until he's ready to take over one of the top 2 spots.

[casmith07]

I want Patrick Peterson so bad it's not even funny. You give him even decent safety help on his side of the field and he will erase one side of the field. Everything about him is near perfect - backpedal, break out of pedal, tracking the ball, tackling, body control, awareness. He is NEVER flat-footed as a habit, something that guys like Mike Jenkins still need to be coached out of.

Patrick Peterson is going to be like a seasoned Charles Woodson, Nnamdi Asomugha, Terence Newman, or Darrelle Revis from day 1. Top tier CB who can play the ball and is physical, and is a coach's dream.

Not only that, he'll immediately push Jenkins to work harder because his job will be threatened, and we'll be insured against Newman as he continues to get older...though until he actually shows some sign of deterioration (ANY sign - just not there yet), I'm not worried about him.

[casmith07]

anyone? I go
1st Patrick Peterson CB LSU
2nd Stefen Wisniewski C/G Penn State
3rd Stanley Havili FB USC

Realistically, I think we will be drafting closer to 10th so I'll say
Tyron Smith T USC

I don't want anything out of Penn State.

[TheCount]

Not only that, he'll immediately push Jenkins to work harder because his job will be threatened, and we'll be insured against Newman as he continues to get older...though until he actually shows some sign of deterioration (ANY sign - just not there yet), I'm not worried about him.

Well of course he's going to continue to get older. :laugh2:

[NeonDeion21]

I like Marvin Austin DL from NC. He was suspended early in the year but was terrific when he played.

[TheCount]

I like Marvin Austin DL from NC. He was suspended early in the year but was terrific when he played.

I like him too but not in the first, and he's got a lot of character concerns, and not the Dez type. I think we'll end up crossing him off our board.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Round 1: DeMarcus Love
Round 2: Mike Pouncey

D-Love stock has been stable around mid 2nd, problem is people are projecting him to move to RT/G in the NFL. Although I want him too, believe he will be dominant at some o-line position, be it guard, RT or LT.

[CanuckCowboysFan]

I want Patrick Peterson so bad it's not even funny. You give him even decent safety help on his side of the field and he will erase one side of the field. Everything about him is near perfect - backpedal, break out of pedal, tracking the ball, tackling, body control, awareness. He is NEVER flat-footed as a habit, something that guys like Mike Jenkins still need to be coached out of.

Patrick Peterson is going to be like a seasoned Charles Woodson, Nnamdi Asomugha, Terence Newman, or Darrelle Revis from day 1. Top tier CB who can play the ball and is physical, and is a coach's dream.

Not only that, he'll immediately push Jenkins to work harder because his job will be threatened, and we'll be insured against Newman as he continues to get older...though until he actually shows some sign of deterioration (ANY sign - just not there yet), I'm not worried about him.

Our dream of landing him is in serious jeopardy. Brandon Harris is a good consolation prize though.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I want Patrick Peterson so bad it's not even funny. You give him even decent safety help on his side of the field and he will erase one side of the field. Everything about him is near perfect - backpedal, break out of pedal, tracking the ball, tackling, body control, awareness. He is NEVER flat-footed as a habit, something that guys like Mike Jenkins still need to be coached out of.

Patrick Peterson is going to be like a seasoned Charles Woodson, Nnamdi Asomugha, Terence Newman, or Darrelle Revis from day 1. Top tier CB who can play the ball and is physical, and is a coach's dream.

Not only that, he'll immediately push Jenkins to work harder because his job will be threatened, and we'll be insured against Newman as he continues to get older...though until he actually shows some sign of deterioration (ANY sign - just not there yet), I'm not worried about him.

Thats why I want to lose. Peterson is going to be the best player in this draftclass, by far.

[CATCH17]

Marcel Dareus.

Help bolster the dline and bring some youth + competition.

[Dash28]

Marcel Dareus.

Help bolster the dline and bring some youth + competition.
I want to bolster the dline and oline.

I like Cameron Heyward more than Dareus.

[NeonDeion21]

I like him too but not in the first, and he's got a lot of character concerns, and not the Dez type. I think we'll end up crossing him off our board.

No, definitely not the first. I think he could fall to mid 2nd-3rd round range.

[CATCH17]

I want to bolster the dline and oline.

I like Cameron Heyward more than Dareus.

Gah I want to also but after watching this mess today maybe Peterson is the right choice.

[Manwiththeplan]

Patrick Peterson is going to be like a seasoned Charles Woodson, Nnamdi Asomugha, Terence Newman, or Darrelle Revis from day 1. Top tier CB who can play the ball and is physical, and is a coach's dream.

When you use this much hyperbole, it's hard to take what you're saying seriously. Patrick Peterson, isn't going to be comparable to the best CBs in the league on day 1. Guys who go from college to the pros w/o missing a beat are very rare. Ndamekong Suh and Randy Moss, are the only 2 guys I can think of off the top of my head where you can say from day 1 they were either the best, or one of the best players at their position. Even guys like Ed Reed and Julius Peppers who made pro-bowls as rookies weren't guys you'd say are the best at their position untill later

[Manwiththeplan]

Doubt it's Patrick Peterson. Sitting at 3-7, I think we'll atleast split the last 6 (I think we win the home games against PHI, WAS and ARZ), which means we'll pick between 9 and 12, so I'd either target one of the 3-4 ends or a lineman.

[rkell87]

When you use this much hyperbole, it's hard to take what you're saying seriously. Patrick Peterson, isn't going to be comparable to the best CBs in the league on day 1. Guys who go from college to the pros w/o missing a beat are very rare. Ndamekong Suh and Randy Moss, are the only 2 guys I can think of off the top of my head where you can say from day 1 they were either the best, or one of the best players at their position. Even guys like Ed Reed and Julius Peppers who made pro-bowls as rookies weren't guys you'd say are the best at their position untill later
adrain peterson i would put in that category as well

[Manwiththeplan]

adrain peterson i would put in that category as well

he wasn't the best RB in the league his rookie year and while the potential was obvious, he wasn't as polished as Ladanian Tomlinson for example. He had almost as many rushing yards, less recieving yards and more fumbles. And what about blitz pick-ups/pass protection? No reason to think he was anywhere close. This shows just how crazy it is to believe Patrick Peterson will be as polished as all-pro CBs from day 1. Adrian Peterson was a better prospect than a lot of guys, but saying he was as polished as the best in the game, is crazy

[rkell87]

he wasn't the best RB in the league his rookie year and while the potential was obvious, he wasn't as polished as Ladanian Tomlinson for example. He had almost as many rushing yards, less recieving yards and more fumbles. And what about blitz pick-ups/pass protection? No reason to think he was anywhere close. This shows just how crazy it is to believe Patrick Peterson will be as polished as all-pro CBs from day 1. Adrian Peterson was a better prospect than a lot of guys, but saying he was as polished as the best in the game, is crazy
you said the best or one of the best at their position from day one, AP was that. yes LT was better but you cant tell me westbrook or willie parker was better or even more complete, and since that time AP has been top 3 consistently

[realtick]

This is the problem with how some folks view the draft, they get into a myopic mode of thinking of "well, player X isn't going to have an impact as a rookie..."

Every player needs refinement, coaching and development.

The notion about a few players "being the best at their position their rookie year" is way offbase IMO.

I would venture to guess if you asked those few players mentioned they would tell you themselves they weren't the best player at their respective positions their rookie season.

[garyv]

1st Round probably Secondary help just take the best available when they pick



Early 2nd Round:

Gabe Camiri, OT, Wisconsin
Best lineman on the best o-line in college. Definately not a LT prospect and is a RT only (too tall to play inside), so the bust factor is high. However, he's very polished, has great size and toughness. He's the guy I want to play RT for us, but I would wait till round 2 before I touched him.

[garyv]

1st Round, Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
2nd Round, Gabe Camiri, OT, Wisconsin

[Chris in Arizona]

1st Round, Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
2nd Round, Gabe Camiri, OT, Wisconsin

and next year we'll throw the new 4 RB offense at teams. They'll never know what hit em.

Drafting Ingram is a luxury pick we can't afford. Unless we trade Felix and Choice for OL and secondary help. Then, I'm with you.

[Romo 2 Austin]

1st Round, Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
2nd Round, Gabe Camiri, OT, Wisconsin

Please god, no.

at this pick, i'd be for Robert Quinn if he is available. If he makes the transition he can be dominant. Worked with D.Bryant last year, same logic goes into the pick so do it again.


oh wait, no I don't it made no sense then, makes no sense now. Needs please.



Allen Bailey, Miami please. Suited to play either End or Tackle in the NFL, which is fantastic considering we have Ratliff. We can throw a bunch of different looks at them with 2 players that can play DT or DE.


If we fall further draft-pick wise, then Janoris Jenkins. If we get back up there, then Prince Akamaura/Patrick Peterson.

[Christiann]

1st Round, Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
2nd Round, Gabe Camiri, OT, Wisconsin

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Unless were unloading two of our backs for help somewhere else, that'd be a luxury we just don't need.

If we can't get to Peterson which its looking like were not, we'd be hoping for that kid from Nebraska to drop to us I would think. If he's not there I'd say Robert Quinn or Dareus. Or just trade down to get an extra pick and pick up Harris from Miami. In the 2nd I'd like to see Camiri or a FS like Deunta Williams or Rahim Moore if we traded up :D

[burmafrd]

This BPA BS is getting old. Its as dumb as just drafting for need.

[realtick]

This BPA BS is getting old. Its as dumb as just drafting for need.

So says bumtard.

[dbair1967]

and next year we'll throw the new 4 RB offense at teams. They'll never know what hit em.

Drafting Ingram is a luxury pick we can't afford. Unless we trade Felix and Choice for OL and secondary help. Then, I'm with you.

I'm pretty sure Barber wont be here next yr regardless of who the new coach is, and if Garrett and Peete are still here I think its fairly obvious they dont like Choice. So its possible two of the three RB's could be gone.

I love Jones, but have to admit Ingram is very intriguing and the two would form one of the best duo's in the league immediately.

Your right he isnt a "need" pick, but the kid is a great RB and a winner. If he were the best player available when we were on the clock, and both Barber and Choice are outta here, picking Ingram wouldnt be a bad idea.

[burmafrd]

So says bumtard.


so says clueless

[TheCount]

I'm pretty sure Barber wont be here next yr regardless of who the new coach is, and if Garrett and Peete are still here I think its fairly obvious they dont like Choice. So its possible two of the three RB's could be gone.

I love Jones, but have to admit Ingram is very intriguing and the two would form one of the best duo's in the league immediately.

Your right he isnt a "need" pick, but the kid is a great RB and a winner. If he were the best player available when we were on the clock, and both Barber and Choice are outta here, picking Ingram wouldnt be a bad idea.

I'd like to give the Felix/Choice combo a go before spending another first rounder on a RB. I don't think Ingram is so unique a talent he's a must have, he's certainly not as unique a RB as Dez is a WR.

[realtick]

I'd like to give the Felix/Choice combo a go before spending another first rounder on a RB. I don't think Ingram is so unique a talent he's a must have, he's certainly not as unique a RB as Dez is a WR.

Bingo.

And if there is one position I might risk passing on a prospect to address in a later round, it's running back by far.

If there has ever been a position where you can routinely find late round and even UDRFA talent, it's RB.

[Chris in Arizona]

I'm pretty sure Barber wont be here next yr regardless of who the new coach is, and if Garrett and Peete are still here I think its fairly obvious they dont like Choice. So its possible two of the three RB's could be gone.

I love Jones, but have to admit Ingram is very intriguing and the two would form one of the best duo's in the league immediately.

Your right he isnt a "need" pick, but the kid is a great RB and a winner. If he were the best player available when we were on the clock, and both Barber and Choice are outta here, picking Ingram wouldnt be a bad idea.

I actually like Ingram a lot ( I like Trent Richardson in 2012 even more) but with the glaring holes we have at safety and a huge need for improved OL there is no way we can take a RB in the 1st. No way.