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Juke99
12-11-2010, 06:19 AM
Cowboys' next head coach must decide if Tony Romo is Cowboys' franchise quarterback
SportsDayDFW.com writer Rick Gosselin chatted with fans on Thursday and answered questions about the Dallas Cowboys. Here are some highlights:
How do the Patriots consistently win with a stunning lack of talent, and yet the Cowboys, who have arguably great talent, lose?
The Patriots are 10-2 because they have the best quarterback in football. The Cowboys won Super Bowls in the 1970s because they had the best quarterback in football and won again in the 1990s because they had another franchise quarterback. I long thought that quarterback was 70 percent of a championship equation. But after watching last February, I now believe a franchise quarterback is 80 percent of a football solution.
The New Orleans Saints won their first Lombardi Trophy with statistically the worst defense and worst special teams in Super Bowl history. But they had a quarterback in Drew Brees who had a career year. The Colts had a pedestrian defense and special teams last season but reached the Super Bowl because their quarterback was the league MVP. If you have a quarterback, you have a chance. If you don't have a quarterback, everything else in your game needs to be perfect -- and over the last two decades, the salary cap has not allowed for any such perfection.
Is Tony Romo a franchise quarterback? That's what the next coach -- Jason Garrett or whoever it may be -- must decide. We know he's not Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Drew Brees. Just how good is he? That's the first question the Cowboys must answer this offseason.
read more.. http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/12/gosselin-cowboys-next-head-coa.html
BHendri5
12-11-2010, 01:40 PM
He just might be that good
big dog cowboy
12-11-2010, 05:00 PM
Is Tony Romo a franchise quarterback?
Yes. Next question.
bmzt31
12-11-2010, 05:05 PM
Is Tony Romo a franchise quarterback? That's what the next coach -- Jason Garrett or whoever it may be -- must decide. We know he's not Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Drew Brees. Just how good is he? That's the first question the Cowboys must answer this offseason.
of course Romo is
The Emperor
12-11-2010, 05:07 PM
See, it's articles like these that make me think Rick Gosselin is a tard.
followthestar
12-11-2010, 05:09 PM
I can't believe any serious sports fan or sports writer would question whether Romo has what it takes - those comments are for Eagles fans or losers who just can't stand to see the Cowboys win games. We also know he's still developing, which means he's improving.
Also, a QB can't be 70 or 80 percent of a teams success, because lots of teams win with heavy defensive help - Ravens, Bears, etc. Whose article was this again, anyway?
67CowboysFan
12-11-2010, 05:34 PM
See, it's articles like these that make me think Rick Gosselin is a tard.
It is absolute proof all the dots are not connected between his ears.
ThreeSportStar80
12-11-2010, 05:52 PM
I'm sick of all the Romo bashing... He's one of the top QB's in the NFL!
Bigdog24
12-11-2010, 10:01 PM
I'm sick of all the Romo bashing... He's one of the top QB's in the NFL!
I like ROMO, but I also liked Danny White, neither of them are/were capable of taking the Cowboys to the Superbowl, Good QBs.. just not championship caliber QBs.
I say trade ROMO to Carolina for the #1 Draft Pick, and take the good young QB, Andrew Luck, sit him (redshirt) for year to learn the system and let Kitna run the TEAM next year, Kitna has a connection with this team and FIRE to lead this team. Not Perfect, but the Cowboys need a young hungry QB for Garrett to groom for the next 10 years.
ROMO has had his opportunity, KITNA shows the heart and fire to lead in the short term, Luck would give the Cowboys a Franchise QB for the next 10 years.
stiletto
12-11-2010, 10:05 PM
I like ROMO, but I also liked Danny White, neither of them are/were capable of taking the Cowboys to the Superbowl, Good QBs.. just not championship caliber QBs.
I say trade ROMO to Carolina for the #1 Draft Pick, and take the good young QB, Andrew Luck, sit him (redshirt) for year to learn the system and let Kitna run the TEAM next year, Kitna has a connection with this team and FIRE to lead this team. Not Perfect, but the Cowboys need a young hungry QB for Garrett to groom for the next 10 years.
ROMO has had his opportunity, KITNA shows the heart and fire to lead in the short term, Luck would give the Cowboys a Franchise QB for the next 10 years.
No one is giving a #1 overall pick in the draft for Romo. We'd have to throw in Ware probably. It must be fun living in Madden GM Mamby Pamby land.....Pipe dream. What if Luck didn't work out? You just set the franchise back for a solid decade. There's no guarantee Luck is Peyton or Brady. I've seen him play. He's good but Ryan Leaf looked good in college too and that worked out AWESOME....
Bigdog24
12-11-2010, 10:18 PM
Just what has ROMO won, look at him in the in the playoffs....Hey, I like the guy....but you need a winner behind center... NASCAR has Mark Martin the best second place driver in history and the fans love him. The NFL has.. Danny White...Archie Manning...Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, and I see Tony ROMO in the same mold, great player, but not a winner, not a superbowl winning caliber player.
You have to roll the Dice, Romo was better than Bledsoe, but has he reached his MAX potential....? My bet is Carolina would jump all over ROMO, a proven..starting caliber QB...that can sell the merchandise, might be best for all parties. Dont get me wrong, I like ROMO, but he is getting older, and is still lacking the pedigree of a Montana, Brees, Brady, or Manning.
CliffnMesquite
12-12-2010, 02:43 AM
He's our QB. Till he get's killed or they find someone better. :)
dooomsday
12-12-2010, 07:55 AM
Just what has ROMO won, look at him in the in the playoffs....Hey, I like the guy....but you need a winner behind center... NASCAR has Mark Martin the best second place driver in history and the fans love him. The NFL has.. Danny White...Archie Manning...Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, and I see Tony ROMO in the same mold, great player, but not a winner, not a superbowl winning caliber player.
You have to roll the Dice, Romo was better than Bledsoe, but has he reached his MAX potential....? My bet is Carolina would jump all over ROMO, a proven..starting caliber QB...that can sell the merchandise, might be best for all parties. Dont get me wrong, I like ROMO, but he is getting older, and is still lacking the pedigree of a Montana, Brees, Brady, or Manning.
No doubt. Romo has won nothing. Well, I shouldnt say that, he beat Houston and put up some nice stats in like week 4. Talk about Madden....There is no basis of an argument other than meaningless stats. Its not bashing if you dont gush over nada. Its just the opposite of being a homer. Whatever the term is.
Randy White
12-12-2010, 09:56 AM
See, it's articles like these that make me think Rick Gosselin is a tard.
With a huge RE in front of it.
Randy White
12-12-2010, 10:01 AM
Let's play a little game with this ABSURD idea, even putting aside the notion that you just suggested the Cowboys blow up the entire roster in and build it around a college QB who hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL yet.
So if you believe this:
I like ROMO, but I also liked Danny White, neither of them are/were capable of taking the Cowboys to the Superbowl, Good QBs.. just not championship caliber QBs.
What makes you think, even for a dilusional minute, that Carolina would do THIS:
I say trade ROMO to Carolina for the #1 Draft Pick, and take the good young QB, Andrew Luck, .. ?????
:rolleyes:
Randy White
12-12-2010, 10:09 AM
The NFL has.. Danny White...Archie Manning...Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, and I see Tony ROMO in the same mold, great player, but not a winner, not a superbowl winning caliber player.
So, I guess you'd take Trent Dilfer over Dan Marino or Dan Fouts too, huh ? Jeff Hostetler ? Mark Rypien ? Doug Williams ? Jim Plunkett ?
Randy White
12-12-2010, 10:23 AM
No doubt. Romo has won nothing..
Tony Romo:
55 starts, 38 wins-17 loses. 2 division titles, 3 playoffs appearances.
Some of you need to take a few sipps from the cup of STyouknowhatU and go stand in a corner.
Philip Rivers:
64 starts, 46 wins-18 loses. 2 division titles, 3 playoffs appearances.
" he's won nothing.. Chargers should trade him to Carolina and draft Luck "..
stiletto
12-12-2010, 10:31 AM
Tony Romo:
55 starts, 38 wins-17 loses. 2 division titles, 3 playoffs appearances.
Some of you need to take a few sipps from the cup of STyouknowhatU and go stand in a corner.
Philip Rivers:
64 starts, 46 wins-18 loses. 2 division titles, 3 playoffs appearances.
" he's won nothing.. Chargers should trade him to Carolina and draft Luck "..
Romo has also had to play for a Wade Phillips coached team for 4+ years. That is looking to be a significant contributing factor if you equate the turnaround under Garrett thus far. Had the entire team played with the same fire, preparation and determination all along that it has so far under Garrett I am thinking Romo has a better playoff record as well..
Bigdog24
12-12-2010, 10:49 AM
Tony Romo:
55 starts, 38 wins-17 loses. 2 division titles, 3 playoffs appearances.
Some of you need to take a few sipps from the cup of STyouknowhatU and go stand in a corner.
Philip Rivers:
64 starts, 46 wins-18 loses. 2 division titles, 3 playoffs appearances.
" he's won nothing.. Chargers should trade him to Carolina and draft Luck "..
Do you really want go down that road, I like ROMO, However, his history suggest he CHOKES in big games, Great in Sept, Terrible in December, Some players rise up to the challenge, other suscumb to the pressure. Yes other Players affect his play, and they choke as well, But WINNERS find a way to win in big games, and win in playoff games.
Can ROMO bring Jerry Jones a Superbowl, or does Jerry Jones have to buy Superbowl players to get ROMO a championship
StarWiz2
12-12-2010, 11:06 AM
VT had gaudy stats. Dan Marino, et al... Stats mean jack in football when it comes to wins and losses where the only measure of success counts.
Romo is a QB who partied it up in Cabo a week before an important playoff game. Romo is a QB who's stated before that if the worse thing that happens to him is losing a game, everything is cozy.
People have doubts about Romo's passion for the game and justifiably so. Of course, this says nothing about his talent, which we all know is prodigious, but passion + talent make a special QB great. Is Romo going to be great? What determines great? SB win? I'm not so sure. Ben R certainly isn't a great QB even with those 2 SB wins because one SB is asterisked by the Refs and the other he played awful and only stumbled into a win because the Cards really had no business being in the super bowl.
Tom Brady, Troy Aikman, are they great? I don't think so. Not in the era of free agency.
When I think of great QBs, the first names that come to mind are, Joe Montana and Roger Staubach, true leaders in every sense of the word.
I think Romo has that potential to be great. We won't know for another couple of years, but my sense is that Romo doesn't have the passion necessary to lead this team to a super bowl. Unless a head coach comes along and brings it out of him. Is JG that man? JJ will determine that at the end of the season.
stiletto
12-12-2010, 11:10 AM
Can ROMO bring Jerry Jones a Superbowl, or does Jerry Jones have to buy Superbowl players to get ROMO a championship
This is the most horrible logic ever. Why does Romo have to bring a championship to Jerry by himself?? What about all he's had to overcome in those sloppy playoff games he's had to play? It's been an impossible mission for the guy. What about false starts every 5 minutes, the holding, the illegal shifts, the pass interferences, is he to blame for all that too? There are some things in a football game the Quarterback does not control. It takes a team to win playoff games, not a man. This team has been a mess through and through when the lights come on during the playoffs. Not just Romo. Can he play better? Sure.. but so can the rest of the team. Hopefully it will be coached into a well oiled machine and Romo can function the way a good QB is supposed to instead of overcoming penalties and running for his life from the start of the whistle.
Randy White
12-12-2010, 02:16 PM
Do you really want go down that road, I like ROMO, However, his history suggest he CHOKES in big games, Great in Sept, Terrible in December, Some players rise up to the challenge, other suscumb to the pressure. Yes other Players affect his play, and they choke as well, But WINNERS find a way to win in big games, and win in playoff games.
That has to be one of the DUMBEST statements ever made in this forum, and that's no easy task, believe me, but then you wrote this:
Can ROMO bring Jerry Jones a Superbowl, or does Jerry Jones have to buy Superbowl players to get ROMO a championship
This is so unbelivably stupid that I don't know where to begin. I'll give it a try, though:
Tell me, which Superbowl championship team wasn't " bought " ? Go ahead and search your computer, until your chip blows up, and find out which Superbowl team played for free in the NFL..
Randy White
12-12-2010, 02:19 PM
People have doubts about Romo's passion for the game and justifiably so. .
and the stupidity continues...
I hope some of you asked for a brain on this Christmas.
Randy White
12-12-2010, 02:35 PM
playoffs stats:
2006 at Seattle: 17/29, 189 yards, 1 TDs, 0 int
2007 NY Giants: 18/36, 201 yards, 1 TDs, 1 int
2009 Philadephia: 23/35, 244 yards, 2 TDs, 0 int
2009 at Minnesota: 22/35, 198 yards, 0 TDs, 1 int
overall: 4 games, 80/135 ( 60% ), 4 TD, 2 ints. Neither ints had a significant impact on the outcome of the game.
Like I said, some of you need to take a few sipps from the cup of STyouknowhatU and stand in the corner mumering to yourselves. You'd be better of.
sago1
12-12-2010, 05:22 PM
So only great QBs win SBs. Gee, I really like Trent Dilfer but never thought of him as a great QB, but he won a SB. Brad Johnson was a decent QB yet managed to win a SB with the Tampa Bay Bucs, etc. And does anybody except Giant fans really think Eli Manning is a great QB.
This article is one of the most foolish articles I've read topped only by the dumb article written in today's DMN by JJT wherein he stated that Cowboy fans should root for Vick/Eagles because Vick has overcome so much to finally get his act together and would be a good model to those who need help and have also suffered setbacks in their life. Must admit I'm surprised that article hasn't been posted on this board. Unless of course DMN readers screamed so loudly that DMN took the article off the internet.
Bigdog24
12-12-2010, 06:55 PM
playoffs stats:
2006 at Seattle: 17/29, 189 yards, 1 TDs, 0 int FUMBLE the SNAP with the game on the line
2007 NY Giants: 18/36, 201 yards, 1 TDs, 1 int INT in the endzone, with the game on the line
2009 Philadephia: 23/35, 244 yards, 2 TDs, 0 int
2009 at Minnesota: 22/35, 198 yards, 0 TDs, 1 int just plainly aterrible performance by Romo and the boys
overall: 4 games, 80/135 ( 60% ), 4 TD, 2 ints. Neither ints had a significant impact on the outcome of the game. REALYY are u that big of homer
Like I said, some of you need to take a few sipps from the cup of STyouknowhatU and stand in the corner mumering to yourselves. You'd be better of.
I seriously doubt ROMO has what it takes to get this team to the Superbowl, I would love to be wrong, again I like ROMO he is good, His History says otherwise...
Randy White
12-12-2010, 07:31 PM
I seriously doubt ROMO has what it takes to get this team to the Superbowl, I would love to be wrong, again I like ROMO he is good, His History says otherwise...
Don't worry, you got your love because you ARE wrong.
Stautner
12-13-2010, 09:58 AM
I like ROMO, but I also liked Danny White, neither of them are/were capable of taking the Cowboys to the Superbowl, Good QBs.. just not championship caliber QBs.
I say trade ROMO to Carolina for the #1 Draft Pick, and take the good young QB, Andrew Luck, sit him (redshirt) for year to learn the system and let Kitna run the TEAM next year, Kitna has a connection with this team and FIRE to lead this team. Not Perfect, but the Cowboys need a young hungry QB for Garrett to groom for the next 10 years.
ROMO has had his opportunity, KITNA shows the heart and fire to lead in the short term, Luck would give the Cowboys a Franchise QB for the next 10 years.
Here's the deal. Romo CAN win it all, but he's not the Favre/Montana/Staubach lead-dog type that is the guy leading the charge and inspiring the troops and that everyone rallys around. He needs things to fall in place with a collaborative effort where that kind of lead-dog type isn't required to win.
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