Jerry's comment on Smoot

[Dale]

It has already been posted here several times, but I wanted to address Jerry's comment on Smoot.

For those who haven't read it, he said he was essentially impressed by the Skins' signing of Rolle, though he's 'not quite the cover corner' Smoot is (paraphrase). He then went on to say, though, that Rolle certainly is one of the top 3 guys available.

How should this be interpreted?

Is this a mere jab at Snyder, who has bee notorious for jabbing Jerry in the past (laughing at the Goodrich pick, for instance)? Is this comment just a random pondering by Jerry? Or is he indicating that the team might be geared for a run at Smoot?

Also, if my math adds up here :), and he considers Rolle a top-three corner in free agency, but Smoot better...doesn't that only leave one guy left in that category? Law? Lucas?

[DWAREZ]

It has already been posted here several times, but I wanted to address Jerry's comment on Smoot.

For those who haven't read it, he said he was essentially impressed by the Skins' signing of Rolle, though he's 'not quite the cover corner' Smoot is (paraphrase). He then went on to say, though, that Rolle certainly is one of the top 3 guys available.

How should this be interpreted?

Is this a mere jab at Snyder, who has bee notorious for jabbing Jerry in the past (laughing at the Goodrich pick, for instance)? Is this comment just a random pondering by Jerry? Or is he indicating that the team might be geared for a run at Smoot?

Also, if my math adds up here :), and he considers Rolle a top-three corner in free agency, but Smoot better...doesn't that only leave one guy left in that category? Law? Lucas?
Thanks Dale, I never read the aforementioned comment.

Couple this with the fact that Jerry indicated philosophically that they would attempt to sign "younger" free agents relatively speaking based on availability, it seems logical Lucas and Smoot may be on their radar...Henry may fit that age bracket as well.

I think Smoot and Lucas are being highly considered over Law and Rolle.

Law is older and injured and Rolle is troubled.

It makes sense to go younger and lock up the position for 2-4 years with a proven but still young veteran.

[Dale]

Thanks Dale, I never read the aforementioned comment.

Couple this with the fact that Jerry indicated philosophically that they would attempt to sign "younger" free agents relatively speaking based on availability, it seems logical Lucas and Smoot may be on their radar...Henry may fit that age bracket as well.

I think Smoot and Lucas are being highly considered over Law and Rolle.

Law is older and injured and Rolle is troubled.

It makes sense to go younger and lock up the position for 2-4 years with a proven but still young veteran.

I just hope we don't get stingy here. If we want any of the corners generally considered among the top six or seven available this offseason, we're going to have to overpay some. It's that simple. It's going to take a commitment of a $10+ million signing bonus.

For some reason, I too, think we'll bite the bullet at corner in free agency. CB, DT, and offensive line seem like the positions, along with FS or LB possibly, that will really be targeted from this point on. The rest, like the critical hole at DE, will probably be left for April's draft.

The monkey wrench at receiver is Coles. If he becomes available, WR shoots up our charts as a need area in free agency. Otherwise, I don't really see who we'll target. I just don't see Plaxico being a guy Parcells looks at as a key part of his championship dreams.

[Zaxor]

we will see... I think Bill would like Lucas better because he is bigger

http://home.arcor.de/moosehh/DC%20PICS//0036.JPGZaxor

[zagnut]

I just hope we don't get stingy here. If we want any of the corners generally considered among the top six or seven available this offseason, we're going to have to overpay some. It's that simple. It's going to take a commitment of a $10+ million signing bonus.

For some reason, I too, think we'll bite the bullet at corner in free agency. CB, DT, and offensive line seem like the positions, along with FS or LB possibly, that will really be targeted from this point on. The rest, like the critical hole at DE, will probably be left for April's draft.

The monkey wrench at receiver is Coles. If he becomes available, WR shoots up our charts as a need area in free agency. Otherwise, I don't really see who we'll target. I just don't see Plaxico being a guy Parcells looks at as a key part of his championship dreams.

I agree. If we don't want to pay big dollars for a CB, we better be drafting one in the first round. Someone needs to step in on the first day of camp and be the man. $10+ million signing bonus and $5.5 to $7 million is what it's going to cost.

Reading this and the supposed Smoot quote in a Mississippi media outlet about wanting to be a Cowboy, it all starts to make sense. Could it be Smoot has been letting our receivers catch all those TDs the past four years because he loves the Cowboys so much? :)

Seriously, Smoot has grown on me ever since he played with a cracked sternum. Living in Baltimore, I get to hear him on the radio and post-game quite a lot. He's not nearly as mouthy these days as his reputation. His skills have improved too and he has the feet and hips to play man up without mugging the WR.

I'd like Coles too. And Pierce. Man, I hate liking all these Redskins.

[MichaelWinicki]

I just hope we don't get stingy here. If we want any of the corners generally considered among the top six or seven available this offseason, we're going to have to overpay some. It's that simple. It's going to take a commitment of a $10+ million signing bonus.

For some reason, I too, think we'll bite the bullet at corner in free agency. CB, DT, and offensive line seem like the positions, along with FS or LB possibly, that will really be targeted from this point on. The rest, like the critical hole at DE, will probably be left for April's draft.

The monkey wrench at receiver is Coles. If he becomes available, WR shoots up our charts as a need area in free agency. Otherwise, I don't really see who we'll target. I just don't see Plaxico being a guy Parcells looks at as a key part of his championship dreams.


Dale, you can't be giving everyone $10 mill signing bonuses. That just won't work.

[Rack Bauer]

Dale, you can't be giving everyone $10 mill signing bonuses. That just won't work.


I agree. If the player isn't worth the money, you don't pay him the money. Especially at CB nowadays. It makes no sense that, due to rules changes, they are less effective today then they ever have been, yet their price tag is going up. That's not smart business.

Throw a ton of money into our front 7, get that fixed (especially our pass rush, be it a 4-3 DE or a couple of 3-4 rush LBs) and I guarantee our CB play will be much better.

[jterrell]

we will see... I think Bill would like Lucas better because he is bigger

http://home.arcor.de/moosehh/DC%20PICS//0036.JPGZaxor

And Jerry will like Smoot more because he has stated he grew up a Cowboys fan and played in the SEC. We drafted RW based alot on his desire to be a Cowboy.

BP is pretty much running the show but Jerry will make sure his guy is 1a if Lucas falls apart for any reason.

[jterrell]

Dale, you can't be giving everyone $10 mill signing bonuses. That just won't work.

Actually you can---this year---.

We had 8 holes on this team. If we fill all 7 that are left through free agency with 10 mil bonuses each that would probably cost us about 2.5 mil per player on the cap. 15.5 mil total this year which is manageable.

But realistically you know we are gonna go with at least 2 and maybe 3 of those 7 in the draft so you figure 5 at 2.5 which is 12.5 mil and that is about perfect. Add the rookie class and you have your cap set for this season.

These big bonuses are not all being paid day 1. They give a guy 12 mil in signing bonus but hand him 5 mil, tell him he gets 3 mil next march 1st and 4 mil the following march 1st. Sounds like 12 signing bonus but the guy doesnt get it if he gets cut before any of those dates. Thats why restructuring always seems to take place.

For this year the 5 mil bonus is divided by total year which usually average 4 or 5 and add in the base salary which is 1 mil or so in many cases. Obviously it can be as low as 2 mil this year on a guy with a 12 million dollar bonus by this example. Expect Samari Rolle's deal to be very much like this.

[Zaxor]

And Jerry will like Smoot more because he has stated he grew up a Cowboys fan and played in the SEC. We drafted RW based alot on his desire to be a Cowboy.

BP is pretty much running the show but Jerry will make sure his guy is 1a if Lucas falls apart for any reason.
Good point

Zaxor

[BrAinPaiNt]

It has already been posted here several times, but I wanted to address Jerry's comment on Smoot.

For those who haven't read it, he said he was essentially impressed by the Skins' signing of Rolle, though he's 'not quite the cover corner' Smoot is (paraphrase). He then went on to say, though, that Rolle certainly is one of the top 3 guys available.

How should this be interpreted?

Is this a mere jab at Snyder, who has bee notorious for jabbing Jerry in the past (laughing at the Goodrich pick, for instance)? Is this comment just a random pondering by Jerry? Or is he indicating that the team might be geared for a run at Smoot?

Also, if my math adds up here :), and he considers Rolle a top-three corner in free agency, but Smoot better...doesn't that only leave one guy left in that category? Law? Lucas?


Well it is not like Jerry to rib others (like Snyder did Jerry), Normally Jerry takes the high road and does not put those types of comments out.

So he must really have an eyeball out on Smoot. However the money involved that it may take to get smoot is another thing that could botch the deal.

[jterrell]

Well it is not like Jerry to rib others (like Snyder did Jerry), Normally Jerry takes the high road and does not put those types of comments out.

So he must really have an eyeball out on Smoot. However the money involved that it may take to get smoot is another thing that could botch the deal.
Your essentially right but Jerry does like to needle Snyder.
He did over the Spurrier situation and seems to enjoy it actually.

Now with the media he always takes the high road. A guy rips him and he still talks to the guy and is actually friendly. Probably in the back of his mind he is thinking that the doof is actually making him money.

But Snyder is a snivelly little man who is also his competitor. Fun stuff.
I'd love to buy Jerry a few drinks(not the expensive junk he is used to I am sure) and hear him wax poetic about Danny Boy.

[TheSkaven]

I really don't want to see Fred Smoot here. The kid has bust written all over him. He's too short, not physical enough, and his mouth is going to get him into trouble with Bill sooner rather than later. To bring a guy like that in here, you're talking about a $12mil signing bonus (at least) and a 5 year deal. No way, no how. Honestly, I'd take Mario Edwards back before Smoot. Give me Law (if he can pass a physical) or Lucas.

[2233boys]

I really don't want to see Fred Smoot here. The kid has bust written all over him. He's too short, not physical enough, and his mouth is going to get him into trouble with Bill sooner rather than later. To bring a guy like that in here, you're talking about a $12mil signing bonus (at least) and a 5 year deal. No way, no how. Honestly, I'd take Mario Edwards back before Smoot. Give me Law (if he can pass a physical) or Lucas.


He is 26, and a decent cb, who unlike Edwards (Whom I liked here and wouldn't mind back) turns back for the ball... He plays through injury so he has heart. I am not advocating Smoot at all costs, but I wouldn't be hurt if we signed Smoot or Lucas and bring Edwards back for depth.. :D

This argument that a loud mouth player won't play under Bill is weak, LT anyone.

[BrAinPaiNt]

He is 26, and a decent cb, who unlike Edwards (Whom I liked here and wouldn't mind back) turns back for the ball... He plays through injury so he has heart. I am not advocating Smoot at all costs, but I wouldn't be hurt if we signed Smoot or Lucas and bring Edwards back for depth.. :D

This argument that a loud mouth player won't play under Bill is weak, LT anyone.


Agreed....Smoot may have been a loud mouth, I doubt he is that bad now compared to him in his first two years.....but whether anyone cares for smoot or not, one thing that I can respect is that he plays through injuries and gives it 100% on the field.

I think he will ask for too much, but then again I think every FA CB is going to ask too much, just like last year.....difference is I would rather pay a little too much then be too cheap and miss out all together.

[Roy Williams]

I still think Bill has Lucas targeted at CB for next year. You noticed that Jerry noted that Smoot was in the top 3 along with Rolle but didn't say who he/they thought was the top FA CB in the market. I think they have targeted Lucas and will most likely get him in here early to get him signed quick.

And it seems with the recent rumblings that Dallas may have allready come to some aggreement with Furgeson.

It would be a REALLY nice start to FA if we could land Lucas, Furgeson, and possibly McKenzie to play RT in the first week.

[ShiningStar]

I agree. If we don't want to pay big dollars for a CB, we better be drafting one in the first round. Someone needs to step in on the first day of camp and be the man. $10+ million signing bonus and $5.5 to $7 million is what it's going to cost. I dont know if a Cb can enter the NFl without being good enough to withstand what will come at him. I think we should pay up for Smoot and accept the trend pay big for the big players..every other team is doing it to win. I respected that we tried to get the younger players out there but for the battle that some put up a lot went against them. We need to a Lucas or Smoot..personally i like Smoot more, plays with more heart and really believes in his team.