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SaltwaterServr
12-28-2010, 07:06 AM
What's folk's opinion on an interview suit? Is it a bit much to go with a three button like this one:

http://www.menswearhouse.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10051_10558_10601_149407_-1_10558_BLACK%20SOLID_10051_?cm_vc=40159

or stay with a more traditional two button front, lower lapel?

I've found a few really nice vested suits for under $500, but I'd look like the dweeb in Iron Man 2 wearing one. I've been advised by a HR person in a massive insurance firm to buy at least two in case your second interview ends up with someone who you might have run into during the first. He said it doesn't happen often at all, but it's kind of a running joke that they'll find a good employee coming out of college with nothing but a diploma, loan debt, and the suit they interviewed in.

BrAinPaiNt
12-28-2010, 07:13 AM
I am not a suit person but I see nothing wrong with the suit you linked to. Looks nice and classic.

Yeagermeister
12-28-2010, 08:03 AM
That looks fine

Sam I Am
12-28-2010, 08:35 AM
It's horrible and it sux. I hate it. ;)

Faerluna
12-28-2010, 08:40 AM
I like the 3-button.

Kangaroo
12-28-2010, 08:45 AM
It will be fine as an interview suit as some pointed out it has a classic look to it. Good Luck

Number82
12-28-2010, 09:59 AM
Interview suits, should be black or navy and have no stripes. If the job requires you to wear a suit for the interview, it most likely requires a second interview, stripes are noticable/memorable. If you don't have stripes, you can just change the shirt and tie and its like a whole new suit. So yes, that's a good option.

If you want to go a little deeper, I'd recommend two-button or a three-button based on the company/industry. If you're going on a interview for a job in the financial industry then three-button. If the job is a little more creative, I would go with a two-button.

But, overall, as long as it fits well, that's a nice interview suit.

casmith07
12-28-2010, 10:17 AM
Interview suits, should be black or navy and have no stripes. If the job requires you to wear a suit for the interview, it most likely requires a second interview, stripes are noticable/memorable. If you don't have stripes, you can just change the shirt and tie and its like a whole new suit. So yes, that's a good option.

If you want to go a little deeper, I'd recommend two-button or a three-button based on the company/industry. If you're going on a interview for a job in the financial industry then three-button. If the job is a little more creative, I would go with a two-button.

But, overall, as long as it fits well, that's a nice interview suit.

I would go with this, minus the two-button stuff.

I think two-button jackets are busch league...only time someone should have two buttons is on a sport coat or blazer, i.e. "business casual," nights on the town, dinner out, etc. Three-button suits = professionalism.

Go with a black, navy, or charcoal three button suit with cuffed pants with a single break. No cuff/no break is a trendy thing happening now, but you're not some wannabe quasi-european. Stripes are okay, but you want them to be subtle if you're going to wear stripes. An eye-catching, yet simple tie is also a good idea. Don't wash out the suit by wearing a tie the same color as the suit...this isn't a tuxedo affair.

In short, the suit that you picked out is excellent. :) Good luck! If there's a second interview, come back with something a bit more daring...the lighter grey suit in the "suggestions" box below would be a good look. It shows them that you mean business, yet you also have a good sense of style and won't be wearing the same dark suit to work every day. There's nothing I hate more than seeing politicians/business men wearing cookie-cutter navy or black suits with the same hideous ties over and over and over. Washington DC is full of them too :(

WoodysGirl
12-28-2010, 11:22 AM
I had three interview suits when I graduated. Obviously the woman kind. I had a Black, Navy, and Beige.

After a few years and because of the field I was in, I no longer wore them. Just nice pants and a dress shirt. That's about it.

gmoney112
12-28-2010, 11:30 AM
Yeah that's good. Just make sure to get it tailored.

Danny White
12-28-2010, 11:35 AM
That's a nice suit.

If you mix up the shirt and tie, I don't think anyone would really notice/care if you wore the same suit to a second interview.

What kind of job are you interviewing for?

This thread reminds me I need a new suit. None of my current ones fit me well anymore... they must have shrunk in dry-cleaning or something. :p:

theogt
12-28-2010, 11:52 AM
1. Do NOT get a black suit. Men do not wear black suits unless it's a funeral or the like. Get a navy or a charcoal suit. Pinstripes are fine as long as they're subtle. If you don't know what a subtle pinstripe is, err on the side of no pattern on the suit.

2. If you're willing to spend $500, go ahead and step up to Jos. A Bank. They have a decent quality/cost ratio at that price range and are a league above Mens Wearhouse. Hit them up now during their end of year sale.

3. Unless you're 6'2"+, do NOT go with a 3-button.

4. At no point do you ever wear a double breasted suit. Or a 3-piece.

These aren't debatable guidelines. These are must abide by rules. Also, you must buy good dress shoes. Do NOT buy shoes with a thick rubber sole. If there's anything you listen to, listen to this: do NOT buy shoes with rubber soles. You don't wear rubber-soled shoes with a suit. I have no idea why anyone would think that's acceptable. If you have a navy suit, wear dark brown shoes. If you have a grey suit, wear black shoes.

Sam I Am
12-28-2010, 12:08 PM
Get this shirt and a pair of chartreuse hightops and be done with it.

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu202/NamenlosV/SuitShirt2.jpg

http://www.okoutletstore.com/images/v/Dunk%20SB%20Sneakers/Dunk%20SB%20High%20Top%20Women/Dunk-SB-High-Women-1023_1.jpg

btw, make sure the hightops have rubber soles. ;)

visionary
12-28-2010, 12:19 PM
1. Do NOT get a black suit. Men do not wear black suits unless it's a funeral or the like. Get a navy or a charcoal suit. Pinstripes are fine as long as they're subtle. If you don't know what a subtle pinstripe is, err on the side of no pattern on the suit.

2. If you're willing to spend $500, go ahead and step up to Jos. A Bank. They have a decent quality/cost ratio at that price range and are a league above Mens Wearhouse. Hit them up now during their end of year sale.

3. Unless you're 6'2"+, do NOT go with a 3-button.

4. At no point do you ever wear a double breasted suit. Or a 3-piece.

These aren't debatable guidelines. These are must abide by rules. Also, you must buy good dress shoes. Do NOT buy shoes with a thick rubber sole. If there's anything you listen to, listen to this: do NOT buy shoes with rubber soles. You don't wear rubber-soled shoes with a suit. I have no idea why anyone would think that's acceptable. If you have a navy suit, wear dark brown shoes. If you have a grey suit, wear black shoes.

take this to the bank
ignore the other posts in this thread ( i am serious)

Heisenberg
12-28-2010, 12:42 PM
2. If you're willing to spend $500, go ahead and step up to Jos. A Bank. They have a decent quality/cost ratio at that price range and are a league above Mens Wearhouse. Hit them up now during their end of year sale.

I think the over the top way the announcer on their commercials extends every syllable would make me not want to shop there. I'm petty like that though. :D

Joseph

AAAAAAAAA

Baaaaaaaank

MonsterD
12-28-2010, 02:04 PM
Get this shirt and a pair of chartreuse hightops and be done with it.

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu202/NamenlosV/SuitShirt2.jpg (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu202/NamenlosV/SuitShirt2.jpg)

http://www.okoutletstore.com/images/v/Dunk%20SB%20Sneakers/Dunk%20SB%20High%20Top%20Women/Dunk-SB-High-Women-1023_1.jpg (http://www.okoutletstore.com/images/v/Dunk%20SB%20Sneakers/Dunk%20SB%20High%20Top%20Women/Dunk-SB-High-Women-1023_1.jpg)

btw, make sure the hightops have rubber soles. ;)

Nice kicks, but needs more "oomph"
http://cdn.best.complex.com/assets/images/Best2000/sneakers/nike-dunk-high-pro-sb-.jpg

Maikeru-sama
12-28-2010, 02:08 PM
What's folk's opinion on an interview suit? Is it a bit much to go with a three button like this one:

http://www.menswearhouse.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10051_10558_10601_149407_-1_10558_BLACK%20SOLID_10051_?cm_vc=40159

or stay with a more traditional two button front, lower lapel?

I've found a few really nice vested suits for under $500, but I'd look like the dweeb in Iron Man 2 wearing one. I've been advised by a HR person in a massive insurance firm to buy at least two in case your second interview ends up with someone who you might have run into during the first. He said it doesn't happen often at all, but it's kind of a running joke that they'll find a good employee coming out of college with nothing but a diploma, loan debt, and the suit they interviewed in.

The suit you linked to is nice.

I interview all the time. I use the same suit but have have multiple ties and shirts to wear. However, if you feel like spending the money, there's nothing wrong with buying an extra suit.

Once I lose some more weight, I plan on buying another suit and I will go to MW.

Maikeru-sama
12-28-2010, 02:09 PM
1. Do NOT get a black suit. Men do not wear black suits unless it's a funeral or the like. Get a navy or a charcoal suit. Pinstripes are fine as long as they're subtle. If you don't know what a subtle pinstripe is, err on the side of no pattern on the suit.

2. If you're willing to spend $500, go ahead and step up to Jos. A Bank. They have a decent quality/cost ratio at that price range and are a league above Mens Wearhouse. Hit them up now during their end of year sale.

3. Unless you're 6'2"+, do NOT go with a 3-button.

4. At no point do you ever wear a double breasted suit. Or a 3-piece.

These aren't debatable guidelines. These are must abide by rules. Also, you must buy good dress shoes. Do NOT buy shoes with a thick rubber sole. If there's anything you listen to, listen to this: do NOT buy shoes with rubber soles. You don't wear rubber-soled shoes with a suit. I have no idea why anyone would think that's acceptable. If you have a navy suit, wear dark brown shoes. If you have a grey suit, wear black shoes.

Oops, didn't see Theo's post.

Forget what I said and go with the Lawyer :laugh2: .

CanadianCowboysFan
12-28-2010, 02:17 PM
I would go with this, minus the two-button stuff.

I think two-button jackets are busch league...only time someone should have two buttons is on a sport coat or blazer, i.e. "business casual," nights on the town, dinner out, etc. Three-button suits = professionalism.

Go with a black, navy, or charcoal three button suit with cuffed pants with a single break. No cuff/no break is a trendy thing happening now, but you're not some wannabe quasi-european. Stripes are okay, but you want them to be subtle if you're going to wear stripes. An eye-catching, yet simple tie is also a good idea. Don't wash out the suit by wearing a tie the same color as the suit...this isn't a tuxedo affair.

In short, the suit that you picked out is excellent. :) Good luck! If there's a second interview, come back with something a bit more daring...the lighter grey suit in the "suggestions" box below would be a good look. It shows them that you mean business, yet you also have a good sense of style and won't be wearing the same dark suit to work every day. There's nothing I hate more than seeing politicians/business men wearing cookie-cutter navy or black suits with the same hideous ties over and over and over. Washington DC is full of them too :(

Not sure where you get the 2 button is bush league view. That is the new style. I have both 2 and 3 button, neither looks more professional than the other, that is just the way it is.

As for the pants, I prefer cuff but no cuff is in, mostly because pants now usually aren't pleated.

CanadianCowboysFan
12-28-2010, 02:19 PM
1. Do NOT get a black suit. Men do not wear black suits unless it's a funeral or the like. Get a navy or a charcoal suit. Pinstripes are fine as long as they're subtle. If you don't know what a subtle pinstripe is, err on the side of no pattern on the suit.

2. If you're willing to spend $500, go ahead and step up to Jos. A Bank. They have a decent quality/cost ratio at that price range and are a league above Mens Wearhouse. Hit them up now during their end of year sale.

3. Unless you're 6'2"+, do NOT go with a 3-button.

4. At no point do you ever wear a double breasted suit. Or a 3-piece.

These aren't debatable guidelines. These are must abide by rules. Also, you must buy good dress shoes. Do NOT buy shoes with a thick rubber sole. If there's anything you listen to, listen to this: do NOT buy shoes with rubber soles. You don't wear rubber-soled shoes with a suit. I have no idea why anyone would think that's acceptable. If you have a navy suit, wear dark brown shoes. If you have a grey suit, wear black shoes.


Bs on the black suit comment and the 6'2 3 button comment.

Brown shoes with a blue suit? Are you kidding me?

Number82
12-28-2010, 02:45 PM
Bs on the black suit comment and the 6'2 3 button comment.

Brown shoes with a blue suit? Are you kidding me?

I disagree with most of his post except to dark brown shoes with with a navy blue suit. You can go black, but dark brown looks more stylish.

Also, I'm a non-pleated & cuffs guy with the pants. Also, I prefer the European double vent in the back to the American single vent.

theogt
12-28-2010, 02:51 PM
Bs on the black suit comment and the 6'2 3 button comment.

Brown shoes with a blue suit? Are you kidding me?None of what I said is debatable. These are hardline rules. If you have any experience in the business world in which one wears suits on a daily basis, the rules should be obvious and without question.

I'm not kidding or joking or giving mere opinion. There's a considerable amount of bad advise to be given, because people think this is about fashion. It's not. It's about looking the part and that specific look is well defined and accepted. Once you get the job and gain some security and a solid reputation, you can wear whatever you feel comfortable wearing. In the interview, it's a whole other ball game.

Danny White
12-28-2010, 02:54 PM
So much of this depends on what kind of job you're interviewing for, and what kind of place you're interviewing at.

I've only interviewed for a job once in my life and it was many years ago, but I do interview people quite often.

I do take note of what the person is wearing, and you want someone to look professional, particularly if they will be in front of clients or representing your business... but all this debate about 2 buttons versus 3 buttons, or what color shoes or what kind of soles... I just would never give a damn about that if I was interviewing someone.

Now, I'm sure there are places where that kind of thing may matter... but there are also places where you could go overboard with stuff like that and hurt your chances. I could definitely see turning off an employer if you look like you don't fit in with the culture and attitude of the place you're interviewing.

My best advice would be to try to get a sense of where you're going to be interviewing and who you're interviewing with, and dress appropriately.

theogt
12-28-2010, 02:56 PM
I disagree with most of his post except to dark brown shoes with with a navy blue suit. You can go black, but dark brown looks more stylish.

Also, I'm a non-pleated & cuffs guy with the pants. Also, I prefer the European double vent in the back to the American single vent.You disagree because you lack the experience and knowledge.


So much of this depends on what kind of job you're interviewing for, and what kind of place you're interviewing at.

I've only interviewed for a job once in my life and it was many years ago, but I do interview people quite often.

I do take note of what the person is wearing, and you want someone to look professional, particularly if they will be in front of clients or representing your business... but all this debate about 2 buttons versus 3 buttons, or what color shoes or what kind of soles... I just would never give a damn about that if I was interviewing someone.

Now, I'm sure there are places where that kind of thing may matter... but there are also places where you could go overboard with stuff like that and hurt your chances. I could definitely see turning off an employer if you look like you don't fit in with the culture and attitude of the place you're interviewing.

My best advice would be to try to get a sense of where you're going to be interviewing and who you're interviewing with, and dress appropriately.Being on the hiring end and hearing what many other people consider when conducting interviews, what you wear is of extreme importance. Right or wrong, people base much of their opinion on what you're wearing in the interview. It can't overcome a bad resume, but it can sink a good one.

This is all assuming you're interviewing for a profession and not McDonald's.

Dallas
12-28-2010, 03:09 PM
You disagree because you lack the experience and knowledge.


Being on the hiring end and hearing what many other people consider when conducting interviews, what you wear is of extreme importance. Right or wrong, people base much of their opinion on what you're wearing in the interview. It can't overcome a bad resume, but it can sink a good one.

This is all assuming you're interviewing for a profession and not McDonald's.


No offense to our "lawer" professional poster here but honestly wearing a suit to a regular professional job isn't buying you anything. As a matter of fact If you aren't interviewing for a director or high end manager position, I wouldn't ever bother with wearing a suit. Most of the folks I interview for our jobs come in nice slacks/belt/ls-shirt and nice tie. That's really all we are looking for. We aren't hiring for GQ magazine and I don't put much into appearance as long as you look presentable and professional. I might actually look at you a bit odd if you come in wearing some 3 piece get up for some 80k/ programmer job we have open.

Keep in mind I am looking at this from a pure IT industry stand point. Im no cigar smoking smart phone droppin wannabe doctor or attorney.;)

I also look at it this way. If I hire you and you aren't wearing a suit on most days, Im wondering why on earth you interviewed in one to begin with, when your obvious working attire is shirt/slacks and tie.

Keep it basic and don't waste your money.

BTW: I have about 8 suits so it's not like I never wear suits. Im just more practicle than most and nobdy and I mean NOBODY in government wears suits unless they are the big high-ups like Commisioners/Directors/Section Chiefs/Regional types.

Yakuza Rich
12-28-2010, 03:12 PM
IMO, that suit is fine. You could probably find something more affordable and get 2 for a decent price. The real nice suits don't matter unless you're applying for a sales job or a job where you conduct presentations or a VP or C-level executive job. Otherwise you're better off saving your money. The real key is what you say and understanding the stupid buzzwords that really work in interviews. And always try to learn something from your last interview so you can bring it to your next interview.

I try to treat interviews almost like a conversation and *almost* like trying to pickup a girl. You can't just have them ask the questions and you answer them. You need to build a rapport back and forth and basically show them what you bring to the table. Lastly, ask them 'what do you think of me as a candidate for this job' and 'what's the next step after this' at the end of the interview. That stuff typically works very well.






YR

WoodysGirl
12-28-2010, 03:21 PM
No offense to our "lawer" professional poster here but honestly wearing a suit to a regular professional job isn't buying you anything. As a matter of fact If you aren't interviewing for a director or high end manager position, I wouldn't ever bother with wearing a suit. Most of the folks I interview for our jobs come in nice slacks/belt/ls-shirt and nice tie. That's really all we are looking for. We aren't hiring for GQ magazine and I don't put much into appearance as long as you look presentable and professional. I might actually look at you a bit odd if you come in wearing some 3 piece get up for some 80k/ programmer job we have open.

Keep in mind I am looking at this from a pure IT industry stand point. Im no cigar smoking smart phone droppin wannabe doctor or attorney.;)

Yeah, that's pretty much my viewpoint. I'm on the low-end of the IT spectrum and I can't tell you how many times I'd show up in one of my nicest interview outfits and the interviewer was wearing jeans and golf shirt. Or as they're showing me around the office, I see employees wearing shorts and flip-flops.

It's important to dress appropriate and give a good impression, but know your target audience. If/when I need to interview again, I'll dress nice, but I'll no longer go all out.

Sam I Am
12-28-2010, 03:31 PM
theogt is mostly right, but the whole brown shoes with a navy blue suit hasn't been fully explained. Brown shoes with a navy blue suit *is* okay as long as the color tone of the shoes are AS DARK as the suit itself. (ie dark brown)

Now, it's an absolute sin to wear brown shoes that aren't as dark as the navy suit. You will straight up look like an idiot. (and rightfully so)

tomson75
12-28-2010, 03:33 PM
Have to agree with Theo's advice on here...there are very specific guidelines for these things....interviews are not situations where you should explore fashionable alternatives.

I also agree that Jos A Banks would be a better option for the money.

I have no experience with these guys, but they've created a bit of a buzz, and I'm thinking about picking up one of their three piece suits...apparently they have a very agreeable customer service department and will accept returns until you are 100% satisfied with their product.

www.indochino.com

I'd be sure to get measured by a tailor, however...using indochino's guide.

tomson75
12-28-2010, 03:34 PM
theogt is mostly right, but the whole brown shoes with a navy blue suit hasn't been fully explained. Brown shoes with a navy blue suit *is* okay as long as the color tone of the shoes are AS DARK as the suit itself. (ie dark brown)

Now, it's an absolute sin to wear brown shoes that aren't as dark as the navy suit. You will straight up look like an idiot. (and rightfully so)

this too...

I also agree that it depends on the job....but as a guideline, Theo is dead on. I wouldn't stray too far from that advise unless the job warranted it...i.e a trendy IT or graphic design gig. Use common sense.

theogt
12-28-2010, 04:02 PM
No offense to our "lawer" professional poster here but honestly wearing a suit to a regular professional job isn't buying you anything. As a matter of fact If you aren't interviewing for a director or high end manager position, I wouldn't ever bother with wearing a suit. Most of the folks I interview for our jobs come in nice slacks/belt/ls-shirt and nice tie. That's really all we are looking for. We aren't hiring for GQ magazine and I don't put much into appearance as long as you look presentable and professional. I might actually look at you a bit odd if you come in wearing some 3 piece get up for some 80k/ programmer job we have open.

Keep in mind I am looking at this from a pure IT industry stand point. Im no cigar smoking smart phone droppin wannabe doctor or attorney.;)

I also look at it this way. If I hire you and you aren't wearing a suit on most days, Im wondering why on earth you interviewed in one to begin with, when your obvious working attire is shirt/slacks and tie.

Keep it basic and don't waste your money.

BTW: I have about 8 suits so it's not like I never wear suits. Im just more practicle than most and nobdy and I mean NOBODY in government wears suits unless they are the big high-ups like Commisioners/Directors/Section Chiefs/Regional types.

Yeah, that's pretty much my viewpoint. I'm on the low-end of the IT spectrum and I can't tell you how many times I'd show up in one of my nicest interview outfits and the interviewer was wearing jeans and golf shirt. Or as they're showing me around the office, I see employees wearing shorts and flip-flops.

It's important to dress appropriate and give a good impression, but know your target audience. If/when I need to interview again, I'll dress nice, but I'll no longer go all out.My advice is based on the assumption that this is for an interview that requires a suit. If this is about whether to wear a suit or not, obviously the advice changes. If you're going to be a tech geek for Google, maybe you don't wear a suit.

And I take no offense, as I am not a "lawer." ;)

theogt is mostly right, but the whole brown shoes with a navy blue suit hasn't been fully explained. Brown shoes with a navy blue suit *is* okay as long as the color tone of the shoes are AS DARK as the suit itself. (ie dark brown)

Now, it's an absolute sin to wear brown shoes that aren't as dark as the navy suit. You will straight up look like an idiot. (and rightfully so)From my original post on the topic:

If you have a navy suit, wear dark brown shoes. If you have a grey suit, wear black shoes.As you see, I specified dark brown.

Light brown shoes with navy suits are perfectly fine for every day wear, but not on an interview. If you want to be particularly stylish you can even wear light brown shoes with a light gray suit -- that's a bit too much of a stretch for me, though.

If you wear black shoes with a navy suit, you will look like you don't know how to dress. It's borderline too conservative, like wearing a black suit.

WoodysGirl
12-28-2010, 04:12 PM
My advice is based on the assumption that this is for an interview that requires a suit. If this is about whether to wear a suit or not, obviously the advice changes. If you're going to be a tech geek for Google, maybe you don't wear a suit.

And I take no offense, as I am not a "lawer." ;)Well he didn't specify what type of job he would be interviewing for in the future.

Your advice is pretty good and something I'd probably pass on to my nephews when they're of age.

But for the purposes of this thread, it's ok to provide general interview advice for the less elite professions.

theogt
12-28-2010, 04:18 PM
Well he didn't specify what type of job he would be interviewing for in the future.

Your advice is pretty good and something I'd probably pass on to my nephews when they're of age.

But for the purposes of this thread, it's ok to provide general interview advice for the less elite professions.You're right. I just assumed. You know what they say about assuming things....

bbgun
12-28-2010, 04:26 PM
When I graduated from college, my sibs pitched in and purchased me a nice leather briefcase from Coach. It kinda completed the "look" of a serious jobhunter. Tidier than showing up for interviews with a loose legal pad and a pen, I suppose.

Yeagermeister
12-28-2010, 04:29 PM
No offense to our "lawer" professional poster here but honestly wearing a suit to a regular professional job isn't buying you anything. As a matter of fact If you aren't interviewing for a director or high end manager position, I wouldn't ever bother with wearing a suit. Most of the folks I interview for our jobs come in nice slacks/belt/ls-shirt and nice tie. That's really all we are looking for. We aren't hiring for GQ magazine and I don't put much into appearance as long as you look presentable and professional. I might actually look at you a bit odd if you come in wearing some 3 piece get up for some 80k/ programmer job we have open.

Keep in mind I am looking at this from a pure IT industry stand point. Im no cigar smoking smart phone droppin wannabe doctor or attorney.;)

I also look at it this way. If I hire you and you aren't wearing a suit on most days, Im wondering why on earth you interviewed in one to begin with, when your obvious working attire is shirt/slacks and tie.

Keep it basic and don't waste your money.

BTW: I have about 8 suits so it's not like I never wear suits. Im just more practicle than most and nobdy and I mean NOBODY in government wears suits unless they are the big high-ups like Commisioners/Directors/Section Chiefs/Regional types.

I agree. If I were doing the hiring I'd be looking at the persons qualifications not if he or she were wearing the correct color of shoes.

bbgun
12-28-2010, 04:30 PM
I agree. If I were doing the hiring I'd be looking at the persons qualifications not if he or she were wearing the correct color of shoes.

Rex Ryan and his wife would notice. ;)

Anjinsan
12-28-2010, 04:31 PM
You disagree because you lack the experience and knowledge.


Being on the hiring end and hearing what many other people consider when conducting interviews, what you wear is of extreme importance. Right or wrong, people base much of their opinion on what you're wearing in the interview. It can't overcome a bad resume, but it can sink a good one.

This is all assuming you're interviewing for a profession and not McDonald's.

I've interviewed hundreds of prospective employees and not once did what they wore make a difference. It's all about their experience and how well they handle themselves during the interview. You should be a little more respective of others opinions as there is no set rules on 2-button vs 3-button, etc.

Dallas
12-28-2010, 04:43 PM
All in all some excellent information for Salt to take from this thread as well as anyone reading it. We have some very professional folks in our community here at CBZ who bring a vast amount of experience in numerous subjects across the board.

A wealth of knowledge here at CBZ and honestly, this is a place if ever I needed advice on something, I wouldn't think twice about posting a question about it.



Now im going to go "lawer" up and see if I can keep myself out of theos doghouse.:D

One other thing I noticed after re-reading the thread is the absense of our lady users (aside from our awesome mod WG). It might be nice for our female users to have a bit more "girl" power here. What do you ladies typically wear to your interviews (I can see Quagmires..er bbguns wheels turning)? Do you wear a suit or slacks/blouse or pants?

Yeagermeister
12-28-2010, 04:46 PM
All in all some excellent information for Salt to take from this thread as well as anyone reading it. We have some very professional folks in our community here at CBZ who bring a vast amount of experience in numerous subjects across the board.

A wealth of knowledge here at CBZ and honestly, this is a place if ever I needed advice on something, I wouldn't think twice about posting a question about it.



Now im going to go "lawer" up and see if I can keep myself out of theos doghouse.:D

Don't forget your dark brown shoes :laugh2:

bbgun
12-28-2010, 04:48 PM
I've interviewed hundreds of prospective employees and not once did what they wore make a difference. It's all about their experience and how well they handle themselves during the interview. You should be a little more respective of others opinions as there is no set rules on 2-button vs 3-button, etc.

It's great that you're cool about it, but job applicants aren't mindreaders. And with unemployment hovering around 10%, with 200 similarly qualified people applying for the same position in some instances, jobseekers will naturally look for any edge that will separate them from the competition. For most, it will start with grooming and attire.

CanadianCowboysFan
12-28-2010, 06:16 PM
I agree. If I were doing the hiring I'd be looking at the persons qualifications not if he or she were wearing the correct color of shoes.

unfortunately, most people know if they would hire someone 30 seconds into the interview.

When I hired my secretary almost 6 years ago, I knew 30 seconds in I could hire her as long as she didn't blow the interview. The other three I interviewed pretty much had no chance.

I still remember what my secretary was wearing, white turtleneck sweater, coat, black pants and boots. Those things stand out for many people.

theogt
12-28-2010, 06:29 PM
I've interviewed hundreds of prospective employees and not once did what they wore make a difference. It's all about their experience and how well they handle themselves during the interview. You should be a little more respective of others opinions as there is no set rules on 2-button vs 3-button, etc.You don't take dress into account. Other people do; many other people do, in fact. I guess it's up to the interviewee to take the risk as to which type of person the interviewer is. Of course, they can simply eliminate that risk by following the rules of interview dress code.


I agree. If I were doing the hiring I'd be looking at the persons qualifications not if he or she were wearing the correct color of shoes.I interview dozens of people every year. They're all qualified. They all have excellent resumes. This is because they're all pre-screened pretty heavily before they reach the point of coming in for interviews. At that point, their qualifications aren't what you're looking at.

bbgun
12-28-2010, 06:47 PM
I interview dozens of people every year. They're all qualified. They all have excellent resumes. This is because they're all pre-screened pretty heavily before they reach the point of coming in for interviews. At that point, their qualifications aren't what you're looking at.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/bahnand000/51P6LIPQZSL._SS500_1.jpg

You're hired.

Yeagermeister
12-28-2010, 07:21 PM
You don't take dress into account. Other people do; many other people do, in fact. I guess it's up to the interviewee to take the risk as to which type of person the interviewer is. Of course, they can simply eliminate that risk by following the rules of interview dress code.


I interview dozens of people every year. They're all qualified. They all have excellent resumes. This is because they're all pre-screened pretty heavily before they reach the point of coming in for interviews. At that point, their qualifications aren't what you're looking at.

If everyone is equally qualified I'd go by personality not if they have on the correct color of shoes.....according to you. lol

theogt
12-28-2010, 07:31 PM
If everyone is equally qualified I'd go by personality not if they have on the correct color of shoes.....according to you. lolIf you can't dress right for an interview, I'm certainly not putting you in front of a client.

Yeagermeister
12-28-2010, 08:20 PM
If you can't dress right for an interview, I'm certainly not putting you in front of a client.

Dress right according to you

jman
12-28-2010, 08:52 PM
What's folk's opinion on an interview suit? Is it a bit much to go with a three button like this one:

http://www.menswearhouse.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10051_10558_10601_149407_-1_10558_BLACK%20SOLID_10051_?cm_vc=40159

or stay with a more traditional two button front, lower lapel?

I've found a few really nice vested suits for under $500, but I'd look like the dweeb in Iron Man 2 wearing one. I've been advised by a HR person in a massive insurance firm to buy at least two in case your second interview ends up with someone who you might have run into during the first. He said it doesn't happen often at all, but it's kind of a running joke that they'll find a good employee coming out of college with nothing but a diploma, loan debt, and the suit they interviewed in.

Nice suit. I actually have that same suit in olive.

Also check the link...some advice from MW on your topic.

http://www.menswearhouse.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContentAttachmentView_-1_10601_10051__10715_10709_InterviewAttire.html

theogt
12-28-2010, 09:06 PM
Dress right according to youThis isn't fashion. There isn't some gray area where we can all express our individuality and tell each other you look great because that's how you want to look. These are very, very basic and unanimously accepted rules of dress in the corporate world. Anyone that doesn't recognize this simply doesn't operate in that world. There's nothing wrong with that. Personally, I think the rules are stupid and wish they didn't exist. But they are the rules. Not my rules. The rules.

Ever watch American Psycho? There's a kernel of truth in that.

SaltwaterServr
12-28-2010, 09:37 PM
1. Do NOT get a black suit. Men do not wear black suits unless it's a funeral or the like. Get a navy or a charcoal suit. Pinstripes are fine as long as they're subtle. If you don't know what a subtle pinstripe is, err on the side of no pattern on the suit.

2. If you're willing to spend $500, go ahead and step up to Jos. A Bank. They have a decent quality/cost ratio at that price range and are a league above Mens Wearhouse. Hit them up now during their end of year sale.

3. Unless you're 6'2"+, do NOT go with a 3-button.

4. At no point do you ever wear a double breasted suit. Or a 3-piece.

These aren't debatable guidelines. These are must abide by rules. Also, you must buy good dress shoes. Do NOT buy shoes with a thick rubber sole. If there's anything you listen to, listen to this: do NOT buy shoes with rubber soles. You don't wear rubber-soled shoes with a suit. I have no idea why anyone would think that's acceptable. If you have a navy suit, wear dark brown shoes. If you have a grey suit, wear black shoes.

Interesting debate on this thread, and I appreciate the information. I put the link to MW simply because it was the fastest example of a 3 button I could find. I had been doing most of my shopping at Joseph's already, and their sale right now it great.

The only job interview I've ever been to that didn't require a suit were when I was under the age of 18 and Dad asked me at dinner if I had a job lined up for summer yet. After that, there hasn't been a single interview I've ever been to that I didn't feel the need to dress for the boss's job. This includes jobs at package stores in Lubbock, waiting tables jobs, teaching assistant at Southwest Texas, you name it.

I'm heading to Banks tomorrow with a few printouts in hand. If they work on a commission, I'm making sure to support a local salesperson. If not, I'll have them order it in store so they don't feel like I've wasted their time.

Again, appreciate the advice given from all parties.

Kangaroo
12-29-2010, 12:00 AM
You could always go with a Navy Blazer I wore it in my second interview you can wear certain browns with navy as well as black and many other colors.

Plain nice color shirt has worked for me with a nice tie. basically I gotten 2 jobs in the last 10 years with the same Navy Jacket (my resume and my interview skills also helped). I was able to Mix in a perfectly hemmed brown or charcoal colored pants that are fitted to my Cowboy boots. So I mixed up the pants and shirt and ties that went with that Navy jacket.
Yes I wear Cowboy boots instead of Dress shoes I have a really nice pair of Black Elephant Boots but I also live in Texas where it may be more acceptable. (I need to get me a nice set of Bullhide here next year to go with my Elephants)

Danny White
12-29-2010, 12:10 AM
This isn't fashion. There isn't some gray area where we can all express our individuality and tell each other you look great because that's how you want to look. These are very, very basic and unanimously accepted rules of dress in the corporate world. Anyone that doesn't recognize this simply doesn't operate in that world. There's nothing wrong with that. Personally, I think the rules are stupid and wish they didn't exist. But they are the rules. Not my rules. The rules.

Ever watch American Psycho? There's a kernel of truth in that.

Alright... I'm going to go out Thursday (my b-day) and get myself a couple of new suits following your advice.

I don't plan on having to interview again in my life, but I might as well look good when I go out on sales meetings and the like. :)

SaltwaterServr
12-29-2010, 12:22 AM
Alright... I'm going to go out Thursday (my b-day) and get myself a couple of new suits following your advice.

I don't plan on having to interview again in my life, but I might as well look good when I go out on sales meetings and the like. :)

Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.

Just because I like to pick nits, it is "all right" and not "alright". Alright is an improper contraction in the same style of "ain't". English professor hammered that home one afternoon this past semester.

rkell87
12-29-2010, 12:28 AM
crazy this thread came up and got gift cards to MW for xmas and will be headed there tomorrow to take advantage of the 2 for 1 sale and i will be following theos advice. thanks theo though now i need to get new brown shoes and check to see if i have rubber soles on my black shoes lol

bbgun
12-29-2010, 12:28 AM
Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.

will do

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7772/mrawesome.jpg

SaltwaterServr
12-29-2010, 12:31 AM
will do

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7772/mrawesome.jpg

So you want to be a 70's porn star? Well, be the best 70's porn star you can be!

theogt
12-29-2010, 12:43 AM
crazy this thread came up and got gift cards to MW for xmas and will be headed there tomorrow to take advantage of the 2 for 1 sale and i will be following theos advice. thanks theo though now i need to get new brown shoes and check to see if i have rubber soles on my black shoes lolJust an FYI, rubber on the heel is fine (and recommended).

Kangaroo
12-29-2010, 01:01 AM
Just an FYI, rubber on the heel is fine (and recommended).

I am in the tech field so it is different and I am in Texas so that helps I am sure. So do you guys frown at Cowboy boots I wear them for several reasons one of them has to do with an ankle that has never ever been the same since I had a bone chip removed. As I gotten older the my ankle would go through issues where my tendon basically flares up and swells (according to the Doc kind of like a tennis elbow) and it feels like someone took a baseball bat to the side of my ankle. I switched to Cowboy boots ten years ago and a lot of this has disappeared because it gives me better support and I do not have to break out a stupid ankle brace.

rkell87
12-29-2010, 01:03 AM
Just an FYI, rubber on the heel is fine (and recommended).
cool, turns out i do have rubber soles though how in the world you could tell unless you got a look at the bottom i have no clue, but it could be why i didnt get that CEO job i was hoping for in march :laugh2:

SaltwaterServr
12-29-2010, 02:32 AM
cool, turns out i do have rubber soles though how in the world you could tell unless you got a look at the bottom i have no clue, but it could be why i didnt get that CEO job i was hoping for in march :laugh2:

If you're going to make it into San Antonio, there are Joseph A. Bank's stores at the Quarry and at La Canterra. They've got a few suits on sale that are wool and wool/cashmere blends usually $550 for $165 online, and they might have some in those stores as well.

I talked to a guy who said there is another sale coming up in a few weeks time. They do the buy one get one free every so often as MW is running now.

Sam I Am
12-29-2010, 07:37 AM
Light brown shoes with navy suits are perfectly fine for every day wear, but not on an interview. If you want to be particularly stylish you can even wear light brown shoes with a light gray suit -- that's a bit too much of a stretch for me, though.

No it isn't. You should be beaten and stabbed if you wear light brown shoes with a navy suit.

casmith07
12-29-2010, 08:26 AM
1. Do NOT get a black suit. Men do not wear black suits unless it's a funeral or the like. Get a navy or a charcoal suit. Pinstripes are fine as long as they're subtle. If you don't know what a subtle pinstripe is, err on the side of no pattern on the suit.

2. If you're willing to spend $500, go ahead and step up to Jos. A Bank. They have a decent quality/cost ratio at that price range and are a league above Mens Wearhouse. Hit them up now during their end of year sale.

3. Unless you're 6'2"+, do NOT go with a 3-button.

4. At no point do you ever wear a double breasted suit. Or a 3-piece.

These aren't debatable guidelines. These are must abide by rules. Also, you must buy good dress shoes. Do NOT buy shoes with a thick rubber sole. If there's anything you listen to, listen to this: do NOT buy shoes with rubber soles. You don't wear rubber-soled shoes with a suit. I have no idea why anyone would think that's acceptable. If you have a navy suit, wear dark brown shoes. If you have a grey suit, wear black shoes.

Opinions - everyone has them.

2-button suits make you look like you're short/fat unless you're 6'2"+ in my opinion.

Danny White
12-29-2010, 09:45 AM
Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.

Just because I like to pick nits, it is "all right" and not "alright". Alright is an improper contraction in the same style of "ain't". English professor hammered that home one afternoon this past semester.

Your English professor annoys me. :p: I was an English major as well, and I've run into plenty of grammar Nazis over the years who mistakenly believe that grammar is a science... it is not.

Alright is rarely preferred, but is generally acceptable, especially in informal writing (such as a message board).

Most dictionaries recognize alright as a word, defining it as "all right."

However, some usage and style guides do (correctly) recognize that "alright" and "all right" can have subtle differences in meaning.

For instance, let's say you're arguing with your wife over the correct way to carve the Christmas turkey. You finally give up:

"All right, we'll do it your way." Indicates that she is "all right" -- 100% correct.

"Alright, we'll do it your way." Makes no such concession... in fact, there is a sense of begrudging agreement implied.

theogt
12-29-2010, 10:00 AM
I am in the tech field so it is different and I am in Texas so that helps I am sure. So do you guys frown at Cowboy boots I wear them for several reasons one of them has to do with an ankle that has never ever been the same since I had a bone chip removed. As I gotten older the my ankle would go through issues where my tendon basically flares up and swells (according to the Doc kind of like a tennis elbow) and it feels like someone took a baseball bat to the side of my ankle. I switched to Cowboy boots ten years ago and a lot of this has disappeared because it gives me better support and I do not have to break out a stupid ankle brace.Dressy cowboy boots are perfectly fine. Particularly (only?) in Texas. :)

No it isn't. You should be beaten and stabbed if you wear light brown shoes with a navy suit.Absolutely it is. This gets more into the "fashion" arena, though, so that's a bit more about "wear what you're comfortable with." Light brown shoes is perfectly acceptable and looks more stylish. But it does begin to get into the foppish/dandy territory.

Opinions - everyone has them.

2-button suits make you look like you're short/fat unless you're 6'2"+ in my opinion.Like I said, the rules I laid out aren't opinions. Almost no one wears 3-button suits. Most often they look odd, though I've seen some occasions where people can pull it off. Best to just stick with 2-button.

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Also, I failed to mention shirts, which is pretty important. Only wear a light blue or a white shirt. No dark colors whatsoever.

Do not wear a button down collar with a tie. And do not get a wide collar shirt. The Brooks Brothers "ainsley point" collar is about as wide as is acceptable.

Sam I Am
12-29-2010, 10:01 AM
"All right, we'll do it your way." Indicates that she is "all right" -- 100% correct.

"Alright, we'll do it your way." Makes no such concession... in fact, there is a sense of begrudging agreement implied.

You are right that is doesn't make the concession implied by the original "all right", but it does is in fact make a concession. It implies a concession even if the person doesn't agree with it. (gives up the fight)

Example:
Bob: "I want it this way, not that way."
Bob's wife: "Oh alright, have it your way!"

tomson75
12-29-2010, 10:02 AM
Opinions - everyone has them.

2-button suits make you look like you're short/fat unless you're 6'2"+ in my opinion.

That's extremely odd....popular opinion is the exact opposite. In fact, most people/experts would suggest that the 3 button is far more flattering to taller men (6'2"+), and that the 2 button is a more flattering option to men of shorter stature.

..but you're right, everyone is entitled to their opinion....even if it's wrong. :D j/k

Just like the Newman haters!

theogt
12-29-2010, 10:04 AM
You are right that is doesn't make the concession implied by the original "all right", but it does is in fact make a concession. It implies a concession even if the person doesn't agree with it. (gives up the fight)

Example:
Bob: "I want it this way, not that way."
Bob's wife: "Oh alright, have it your way!"False!

No one would ever marry Bob.

Sam I Am
12-29-2010, 10:06 AM
Absolutely it is. This gets more into the "fashion" arena, though, so that's a bit more about "wear what you're comfortable with." Light brown shoes is perfectly acceptable and looks more stylish. But it does begin to get into the foppish/dandy territory.

Actually, it's considered a fashion faux pa to wear light brown shoes with navy blue suit. ;)

theogt
12-29-2010, 10:11 AM
Actually, it's considered a fashion faux pa to wear light brown shoes with navy blue suit. ;)Um....no, not at all.

This shoe would go well with a navy suit or a navy blazer.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Wbd-uMYmb_4/TPMhgOP66lI/AAAAAAAAGaE/Il5qYzrc3Lg/s320/Foster+casual+full+brogue+2261.gif

This is a little too light for my tastes, but here's a picture of suit/shoe combo by the author of the "A Suitable Wardrobe" blog.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Wbd-uMYmb_4/S8j13iPfVBI/AAAAAAAAFzM/1LUyLQ9o9lM/s400/cream.JPG

Kangaroo
12-29-2010, 10:14 AM
Dressy cowboy boots are perfectly fine. Particularly (only?) in Texas. :)

Absolutely it is. This gets more into the "fashion" arena, though, so that's a bit more about "wear what you're comfortable with." Light brown shoes is perfectly acceptable and looks more stylish. But it does begin to get into the foppish/dandy territory.

Like I said, the rules I laid out aren't opinions. Almost no one wears 3-button suits. Most often they look odd, though I've seen some occasions where people can pull it off. Best to just stick with 2-button.

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Also, I failed to mention shirts, which is pretty important. Only wear a light blue or a white shirt. No dark colors whatsoever.

Do not wear a button down collar with a tie. And do not get a wide collar shirt. The Brooks Brothers "ainsley point" collar is about as wide as is acceptable.

Haha I hate White shirts and refuse to wear them. I have done the light blue several times :D

Number82
12-29-2010, 10:30 AM
You disagree because you lack the experience and knowledge.


I thought you were a lawyer, not the fashion police.

If you knew anything about me your line I quoted would be inaccurate. I work in the financial industry so I know alot about dressing professional and in suits. Secondly, I interview people for jobs where I work regularly, so I know what alot of people are wearing.

The right suit does matter, but like someone else said, the culture of the company matters equally, if not more. If you're interviewing for a creative company, ie. Apple, Google, Ralph Lauren, Gucci, then you're going to want to have a little more flair to your style. Also, with those style companies, I'd recommend a two-button suit because it's trendy and usually worn by creative types. I would also include a brighter color shirt and and complimentry tie. One of the most important tips of clothing is what you're wearing should all compliment and not match each other or you will look like you're in a uniform.

If you're interviewing for a more conservative/professional company, then three-button, grey, black, or navy.

And there are no such thing as fashion rules, just tips:
If you're a skinny/average guy:

-don't wear pleats, they'll make you look big in the thighs.
-wear fitted shirts, not so they look like underarmour but so they don't blouse out.
-cuffs on pants look more professional.
-side vents vs. single vent is up to you, but side vents are recommended if you do alot of sitting down.
-wear a belt or suspenders, but never both.
-don't wear a shirt that is the same color as your pants/jacket.

theogt
12-29-2010, 10:52 AM
I thought you were a lawyer, not the fashion police.

If you knew anything about me your line I quoted would be inaccurate. I work in the financial industry so I know alot about dressing professional and in suits. Secondly, I interview people for jobs where I work regularly, so I know what alot of people are wearing.

The right suit does matter, but like someone else said, the culture of the company matters equally, if not more. If you're interviewing for a creative company, ie. Apple, Google, Ralph Lauren, Gucci, then you're going to want to have a little more flair to your style. Also, with those style companies, I'd recommend a two-button suit because it's trendy and usually worn by creative types. I would also include a brighter color shirt and and complimentry tie. One of the most important tips of clothing is what you're wearing should all compliment and not match each other or you will look like you're in a uniform.

If you're interviewing for a more conservative/professional company, then three-button, grey, black, or navy.

And there are no such thing as fashion rules, just tips:
If you're a skinny/average guy:

-don't wear pleats, they'll make you look big in the thighs.
-wear fitted shirts, not so they look like underarmour but so they don't blouse out.
-cuffs on pants look more professional.
-side vents vs. single vent is up to you, but side vents are recommended if you do alot of sitting down.
-wear a belt or suspenders, but never both.
-don't wear a shirt that is the same color as your pants/jacket.The bolded is good advice. Ignore the rest. And for the sake of all that is holy in this world, please never wear suspenders. They're never acceptable.

Sam I Am
12-29-2010, 11:00 AM
Um....no, not at all.

This shoe would go well with a navy suit or a navy blazer.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Wbd-uMYmb_4/TPMhgOP66lI/AAAAAAAAGaE/Il5qYzrc3Lg/s320/Foster+casual+full+brogue+2261.gif

This is a little too light for my tastes, but here's a picture of suit/shoe combo by the author of the "A Suitable Wardrobe" blog.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Wbd-uMYmb_4/S8j13iPfVBI/AAAAAAAAFzM/1LUyLQ9o9lM/s400/cream.JPG
The man wearing those shoes with that suit should be slaughtered where he sits.

His color selection reminds me of Craig Sager.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MKXC5TVL2uw/TK5wURoAFaI/AAAAAAAADAQ/RMqiVUHiGKw/s1600/craig-sager1.jpg

rkell87
12-29-2010, 09:41 PM
went to MW today, sales person was very knowledgeable and said almost verbatim what theo said, though he added that Burgundy shoes are acceptable and look sharper with the navy suit, when the alterations are done i will go and try on some shoes and possibly take advantage of the 2 for 1 deal again. oh and i got the same suit(two button) in charcoal and navy, no pleats(without seeing number82s comment) i thought pleats made my pants look baggy.

SaltwaterServr
12-29-2010, 09:44 PM
went to MW today, sales person was very knowledgeable and said almost verbatim what theo said, though he added that Burgundy shoes are acceptable and look sharper with the navy suit, when the alterations are done i will go and try on some shoes and possibly take advantage of the 2 for 1 deal again. oh and i got the same suit(two button) in charcoal and navy, no pleats(without seeing number82s comment) i thought pleats made my pants look baggy.

Joseph A. Banks has a better deal between now and the second of January. It's the sale the guy on the phone mentioned yesterday to me. I thought he meant the new sale was in a few weeks, not immediately.

65% off everything.

http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/SubCategory_11001_10050_1001500

rkell87
12-29-2010, 09:47 PM
Joseph A. Banks has a better deal between now and the second of January. It's the sale the guy on the phone mentioned yesterday to me. I thought he meant the new sale was in a few weeks, not immediately.

65% off everything.

http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/SubCategory_11001_10050_1001500
is that online and in store?

SaltwaterServr
12-29-2010, 09:51 PM
is that online and in store?

Online only.

rkell87
12-29-2010, 10:06 PM
Online only.
thanks for the heads up

DIAF
12-30-2010, 12:32 AM
theo's advice I think is the best in this thread. When interviewing, just stick with as conservative as possible. Please avoid 3-button suits unless you are a taller guy. Also, when getting your suit fit, be mindful of the shoulders. If the shoulders aren't right, the rest of the jacket isn't right. Shoulders should not stick out too much and should not rumple inwards. If they do, the jacket shoulders are too big. If you stand next to the wall in the fitting room with your arms straight down and you gently tilt towards the wall....if the jacket shoulders hit the wall way before your upper arm/elbow does the shoulders are too big. Please pay attention to this; too many people don't and end up looking like they are a kid wearing their dad's suit or something. As far as length goes, when your arms are straight by your side, your jacket should hit at or around the midpoint of your thumb.

Jos A Bank is better than the designer label garbage you will find on the racks at typical department stores, but is still rather meh. Personally I think its too pricey for what you get, unless you are getting in on one of their buy 1 get 1 free/half off/buy two get 1 free/whatever crazy deals.

Men's Wearhouse is absolute trash, avoid at all costs.

I like Brooks Brothers a good deal, their fits are superior to the off-the-rack stuff at MW or JAB and the like, materials are superior and the guys in the store know how a suit should fit and what needs to be done to one to make it fit you. Guys at big chains or dept stores don't give a damn and just want to make the sale for their commission. J Press makes nice suits as well. Also, pay a visit to your local menswear shops, nearly every medium size-large city has a couple of venerable old menswear shops that will carry higher quality merchandise from labels you probably won't recognize, like Southwick.

For ties, i buy lots of 'em on ebay. Ties on the 'bay are cheap, even from places like Brooks. Buy a lot of 'em, keep the good ones and toss the ones that don't make the cut.

Shoes I would actually spend some money here. I see too many people at work walking around in awful looking "dress" shoes that havent been taken care of, all creased and marked up because its thin cowhide with stitches fraying. And most of them aren't even stiched into the sole. The uppers are just glued to an all-rubber heel. Go with something that has a leather sole, is stiched, and from a reputable maker like Allen Edmonds or (if you can afford it) Alden. 200-400 bucks for shoes might seem steep, but not when you consider these were meant to be cared for and if properly done so, will last you for 20 years. If you cant quite drop that much money on a shoe, get a decent midrange brand like Johnston and Murphy or something.

Shirts, dont really matter that much since they will be under your jacket. Just make sure you stick with a regular point collar, no button-downs. That's far too casual for a suit. Make sure the sleeve length is correct; you should have a bit of cuff showing under your jacket but that's it.

theogt
12-30-2010, 12:48 AM
Buying ties on eBay is one of my guilty pleasures. I have a lot of colleagues that spend hundreds on ties and I can't fathom it. There's nothing to a tie, it's just folded fabric. You should never spend over $100 on a tie.

Edit: I wouldn't recommend buying a tie on eBay for a "noob". You can spot a cheap looking tie from a mile away, so if you just buy some random $20 tie on eBay, chances are it's hideous.

DIAF
12-30-2010, 07:01 AM
Buying ties on eBay is one of my guilty pleasures. I have a lot of colleagues that spend hundreds on ties and I can't fathom it. There's nothing to a tie, it's just folded fabric. You should never spend over $100 on a tie.

Edit: I wouldn't recommend buying a tie on eBay for a "noob". You can spot a cheap looking tie from a mile away, so if you just buy some random $20 tie on eBay, chances are it's hideous.

Unless you target certain labels. You can buy a lot of old brooks bros. or JPress ties, for example, on ebay for like ~5 apiece.

Kangaroo
12-30-2010, 10:37 AM
theo's advice I think is the best in this thread. When interviewing, just stick with as conservative as possible. Please avoid 3-button suits unless you are a taller guy. Also, when getting your suit fit, be mindful of the shoulders. If the shoulders aren't right, the rest of the jacket isn't right. Shoulders should not stick out too much and should not rumple inwards. If they do, the jacket shoulders are too big. If you stand next to the wall in the fitting room with your arms straight down and you gently tilt towards the wall....if the jacket shoulders hit the wall way before your upper arm/elbow does the shoulders are too big. Please pay attention to this; too many people don't and end up looking like they are a kid wearing their dad's suit or something. As far as length goes, when your arms are straight by your side, your jacket should hit at or around the midpoint of your thumb.

Jos A Bank is better than the designer label garbage you will find on the racks at typical department stores, but is still rather meh. Personally I think its too pricey for what you get, unless you are getting in on one of their buy 1 get 1 free/half off/buy two get 1 free/whatever crazy deals.

Men's Wearhouse is absolute trash, avoid at all costs.

I like Brooks Brothers a good deal, their fits are superior to the off-the-rack stuff at MW or JAB and the like, materials are superior and the guys in the store know how a suit should fit and what needs to be done to one to make it fit you. Guys at big chains or dept stores don't give a damn and just want to make the sale for their commission. J Press makes nice suits as well. Also, pay a visit to your local menswear shops, nearly every medium size-large city has a couple of venerable old menswear shops that will carry higher quality merchandise from labels you probably won't recognize, like Southwick.

For ties, i buy lots of 'em on ebay. Ties on the 'bay are cheap, even from places like Brooks. Buy a lot of 'em, keep the good ones and toss the ones that don't make the cut.

Shoes I would actually spend some money here. I see too many people at work walking around in awful looking "dress" shoes that havent been taken care of, all creased and marked up because its thin cowhide with stitches fraying. And most of them aren't even stiched into the sole. The uppers are just glued to an all-rubber heel. Go with something that has a leather sole, is stiched, and from a reputable maker like Allen Edmonds or (if you can afford it) Alden. 200-400 bucks for shoes might seem steep, but not when you consider these were meant to be cared for and if properly done so, will last you for 20 years. If you cant quite drop that much money on a shoe, get a decent midrange brand like Johnston and Murphy or something.

Shirts, dont really matter that much since they will be under your jacket. Just make sure you stick with a regular point collar, no button-downs. That's far too casual for a suit. Make sure the sleeve length is correct; you should have a bit of cuff showing under your jacket but that's it.

Most boot repair shops can resole your shoes as well if you get a really good pair. I am not sure what it cost where everyone else is but to resole my elephant boots cost me about $60 here in Houston but i got a great little shop not far from my house that does excellent work

theogt
12-30-2010, 10:55 AM
Most boot repair shops can resole your shoes as well if you get a really good pair. I am not sure what it cost where everyone else is but to resole my elephant boots cost me about $60 here in Houston but i got a great little shop not far from my house that does excellent workThat's one of the huge benefits of getting Allen Edmunds, Aldens, or the like. The soles can be repaired after years of use for very little cost.

The other huge benefit is that they're actually comfortable to wear. Cheap dress shoes are terrible on your feet. I pretty much only buy AE's nowadays. I may try a pair of Aldens at some point, but if I get in that price range, I may start looking at English shoemakers.

Sam I Am
12-30-2010, 11:10 AM
I like Brooks Brothers

Brooks Brothers is very popular with eccentric yupsters. They carry a lot of very nice things, but they also carry a lot of stuff with oddball colors. A lot people that live around Greenwich shop there. You can always tell they shop at Brooks Brothers because their pants are sorbet orange with navy blue boat anchors on them or some other odd color. :laugh2:

bbgun
12-30-2010, 11:20 AM
That's one of the huge benefits of getting Allen Edmunds, Aldens, or the like. The soles can be repaired after years of use for very little cost.

The other huge benefit is that they're actually comfortable to wear. Cheap dress shoes are terrible on your feet. I pretty much only buy AE's nowadays. I may try a pair of Aldens at some point, but if I get in that price range, I may start looking at English shoemakers.

My father (insurance salesman) has been buying his shoes there for 20 + years. I even get them as Xmas presents from time to time.

ninja
12-30-2010, 12:51 PM
Hopefully, some day soon the suit will be extinct. I have one suit that I have had for 15 years. I wear it for weddings, funerals, and interviews all-year. It is a two-button black wool suit which seems to be a faux pas based on the experts here.

I wore it at my brother's wedding last year in 90 degrre heat and humidity. At the end of the night, I noticed the seem right at the crack of my butt came open. My wife wanted to buy a new one but I refused and had her sew it up. No sense in wasting money. :)

Pay more attention to your hair and glasses rather than a suit. A good suit may get your foot in the door but good hair will blow the hinges off. A bad suit may get you sympathy points (everyone hates wearing them except for stuck-up snobs) but bad hair will get you rejected more times than not and leaves a horrible impression.

casmith07
12-30-2010, 12:53 PM
Hopefully, some day soon the suit will be extinct. I have one suit that I have had for 15 years. I wear it for weddings, funerals, and interviews all-year. It is a two-button black wool suit which seems to be a faux pas based on the experts here.

I wore it at my brother's wedding last year in 90 degrre heat and humidity. At the end of the night, I noticed the seem right at the crack of my butt came open. My wife wanted to buy a new one but I refused and had her sew it up. No sense in wasting money. :)

Pay more attention to your hair and glasses rather than a suit. A good suit may get your foot in the door but good hair will blow the hinges off. A bad suit may get you sympathy points (everyone hates wearing them except for stuck-up snobs) but bad hair will get you rejected more times than not and leaves a horrible impression.

:rolleyes:

Maikeru-sama
12-30-2010, 02:22 PM
Hopefully, some day soon the suit will be extinct. I have one suit that I have had for 15 years. I wear it for weddings, funerals, and interviews all-year. It is a two-button black wool suit which seems to be a faux pas based on the experts here.

I wore it at my brother's wedding last year in 90 degrre heat and humidity. At the end of the night, I noticed the seem right at the crack of my butt came open. My wife wanted to buy a new one but I refused and had her sew it up. No sense in wasting money. :)

Pay more attention to your hair and glasses rather than a suit. A good suit may get your foot in the door but good hair will blow the hinges off. A bad suit may get you sympathy points (everyone hates wearing them except for stuck-up snobs) but bad hair will get you rejected more times than not and leaves a horrible impression.

:laugh2:

[/Post of the year]

DIAF
12-30-2010, 03:42 PM
That's one of the huge benefits of getting Allen Edmunds, Aldens, or the like. The soles can be repaired after years of use for very little cost.

The other huge benefit is that they're actually comfortable to wear. Cheap dress shoes are terrible on your feet. I pretty much only buy AE's nowadays. I may try a pair of Aldens at some point, but if I get in that price range, I may start looking at English shoemakers.

I have a pair of Allen Edmonds Park Avenues that I really like. I have long lusted after the Alden 403/404/405 boot (otherwise known as the "Indy" for reasons which should be obvious given the nickname) but at 450 bucks for a boot (especially since I already have a few pairs of expensive shoes) is hard to swallow. I really like Alden Longwings and Suede chukkas (i barely missed a pair of nearly brand new alden chukkas on the 'bay for like 125, damn ebay snipers)

I don't much care for European shoemakers. They all seem a little too "sculpted" or maybe "pointy" for my tastes.

theogt
12-30-2010, 03:57 PM
I have a pair of Allen Edmonds Park Avenues that I really like. I have long lusted after the Alden 403/404/405 boot (otherwise known as the "Indy" for reasons which should be obvious given the nickname) but at 450 bucks for a boot (especially since I already have a few pairs of expensive shoes) is hard to swallow. I really like Alden Longwings and Suede chukkas (i barely missed a pair of nearly brand new alden chukkas on the 'bay for like 125, damn ebay snipers)

I don't much care for European shoemakers. They all seem a little too "sculpted" or maybe "pointy" for my tastes.There's European and then there's English, which are much more "classic" than the Italians and the like. Brooks Brothers shoes are actually made by the English shoemaker Peal & Co. Check out some Crockett & Jones, John Lobb, or Edward Green. Of course, you better be willing to throw down a grand or more.

One of these days, I'll have enough balls to buy some C&J Weymouths (http://www.crockettandjones.co.uk/handgrade-weymou.html).

Anjinsan
12-30-2010, 04:05 PM
:laugh2:

[/Post of the year]

Second that motion....

bbgun
12-30-2010, 04:18 PM
Who knew we had so many fashionistas on a macho football board? Makes me feel self-conscious for tying my pants with a piece of rope.

DIAF
12-30-2010, 05:53 PM
Who knew we had so many fashionistas on a macho football board? Makes me feel self-conscious for tying my pants with a piece of rope.

I'd hardly call myself a fashionista. My wardrobe is regular old american preppy for casual, and stodgy american traditional for dressy. If you were to see me on the street, never would "fashionable" cross your mind. Some things I wear might be expensive, but never flashy.

Cythim
12-30-2010, 06:26 PM
There is a lot of great information here that I hope to be able to use some day.


My one and only interview suit was handmade in Korea for $150. It is charcoal (I was going to get black, wife said grey so I compromised) but I couldn't tell you about pleats, vents or even how many buttons it has. I do know it impressed plenty of people as I was had some call backs and even a few offers for jobs I was under-qualified for.

Thanks for the post!

Kangaroo
12-30-2010, 10:23 PM
I have a pair of Allen Edmonds Park Avenues that I really like. I have long lusted after the Alden 403/404/405 boot (otherwise known as the "Indy" for reasons which should be obvious given the nickname) but at 450 bucks for a boot (especially since I already have a few pairs of expensive shoes) is hard to swallow. I really like Alden Longwings and Suede chukkas (i barely missed a pair of nearly brand new alden chukkas on the 'bay for like 125, damn ebay snipers)

I don't much care for European shoemakers. They all seem a little too "sculpted" or maybe "pointy" for my tastes.

Oh trust me I love to get a pair of Crocodile boots but depending on which ones you get and size and I wear an odd size they cost anywhere from $400 to 4k yes ouch it all depends on Croc species, belly vs horn and so on and so on. Then brand some brands make a better boot than others.

For some of the ones I really like I have to start making a lot more money or win the lottery

Kangaroo
12-30-2010, 10:32 PM
I'd hardly call myself a fashionista. My wardrobe is regular old american preppy for casual, and stodgy american traditional for dressy. If you were to see me on the street, never would "fashionable" cross your mind. Some things I wear might be expensive, but never flashy.

With my current job it be a waste of money I own one Jacket that I have interviewed in several times in the last 10 years. I love a good tie but it is not piratical in my current role. In fact I should really where jeans most days but I am not allowed. Since I rack servers work in data centers crawl, deal with tiles wires and all that stuff. Then I sit on my *** most other days working on the rest of the stuff. I just refuse to spend good money on good shirt brands or pants hell I lost a pair of pants and a shirt in the last 2 months due to a server snagging them. I be pissed if I had a real nice mid level brand for $40 shirt or $60 pants and ripped it like that. Hell I get man when I rip the $17 Haggar docker pants I got at Cotcso or some place like that :D

DIAF
12-30-2010, 10:36 PM
With my current job it be a waste of money I own one Jacket that I have interviewed in several times in the last 10 years. I love a good tie but it is not piratical in my current role. In fact I should really where jeans most days but I am not allowed. Since I rack servers work in data centers crawl, deal with tiles wires and all that stuff. Then I sit on my *** most other days working on the rest of the stuff. I just refuse to spend good money on good shirt brands or pants hell I lost a pair of pants and a shirt in the last 2 months due to a server snagging them. I be pissed if I had a real nice mid level brand for $40 shirt or $60 pants and ripped it like that. Hell I get man when I rip the $17 Haggar docker pants I got at Cotcso or some place like that :D

Well, you aren't always at work! You can dress well after-hours, or on the weekends!

SaltwaterServr
12-30-2010, 11:32 PM
:rolleyes:

Co-sign.

Kangaroo
12-30-2010, 11:42 PM
Well, you aren't always at work! You can dress well after-hours, or on the weekends!

Haha LOL Tuesday and sometimes Thursday I go to to Aikido come home it late. Most Mondays is Boyscouts so I have a uniform and most weekends are home working on the yard, house or Boyscout event. If I am not doing those things I am coming home and reviewing home work. Oh and I need to lose weight; I have to meet height weight requirements in two years for Philmont so I am adding in a work out routine (i need to lose 40-60lbs).

It is just a waste of money I have two nice pair of Wool pants I just do not get to wear very often that I interviewed in 3.5 years ago and they look knew because I rarely get to wear them. I get up and leave before everyone in the house and get home after everyone.

bbgun
01-03-2011, 04:06 PM
Specs appeal: Want to get that job? Wear glasses to the interview

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 8:09 PM on 3rd January 2011


Never mind a crisp shirt or a firm handshake. If you want to impress a potential employer, put on a pair of spectacles.

Job hunters are more likely to be hired if they wear glasses to their interview, according to a study.

A third of adults think spectacle-wearers look more professional, while 43 per cent think they appear more intelligent.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01/03/article-1343667-0CA2224E000005DC-552_468x286.jpg
Dress to impress: Statistics show people wearing glasses are perceived to be intelligent

And 40 per cent of those with 20-20 vision would consider wearing clear lenses if it would improve their chances of getting a job.

Another six per cent would put on glasses to feel fashionable, and nine per cent think spectacles make the wearer look more attractive, the study by the College of Optometrists found.

Psychology professor Cary Cooper, from Lancaster University, said: ‘It is not surprising that businesses want to employ intelligent staff but the idea that intelligent people wear glasses is an old stereotype that has not gone away.

‘In fact, glasses are a poor indication of intelligence because you can have bad eyesight for a number of reasons and then choose to wear contact lenses.

‘It is possible that some people have more self-confidence and change their behaviour when they put on glasses, which could in itself improve their chances at interview.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1343667/Job-interview-tips-Wear-glasses-look-professional.html#ixzz1A0pVEBEp

Dallas
01-03-2011, 05:19 PM
Has everyone gotten his/her brown shoes yet?


Just ordered mine this AM. Check it...


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_aAs1T5kSGtw/SpOpfJP0hOI/AAAAAAAAACg/DH8PvkaHaxE/s320/brown_boots.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_aAs1T5kSGtw/SpOpfJP0hOI/AAAAAAAAACg/DH8PvkaHaxE/s320/brown_boots.jpg)


I got some for WG also....lookie


http://thegloss.com/files/2009/08/glazed-by-adi-leopard-print-pumps.jpg what? There is some brown in there.....

rkell87
01-03-2011, 11:28 PM
i picked these up today(2 for 1 of course) in cordovan and black

http://www.tools4inet.com/1/products/bigandtall/rockport/APM1141E.jpg (http://www.tools4inet.com/1/products/bigandtall/rockport/APM1141E.jpg)

along with a fitted white shirt and business blue shirt and a red tie and blue one.

DIAF
01-04-2011, 07:22 AM
Cordovan as in the color, or cordovan as in the leather is shell cordovan? I don't think Rockport offers shell, and if they did, no retailer in its right mind would offer it in a 2-for-1 deal. If so, let us know, so I can head down to wherever and get a pair :eek:

Teren_Kanan
01-04-2011, 08:40 AM
Reading this just makes me never want to work in a field where knowledge like this is required at all.

Yuck.

Best of luck with your suit.

theogt
01-04-2011, 10:05 AM
Cordovan as in the color, or cordovan as in the leather is shell cordovan? I don't think Rockport offers shell, and if they did, no retailer in its right mind would offer it in a 2-for-1 deal. If so, let us know, so I can head down to wherever and get a pair :eek:Too dull (as in not shiny) to be cordovan leather.

big dog cowboy
01-04-2011, 12:48 PM
I am extremely grateful Lee jeans, plain t-shirt and Nike's get me thru the day.

bbgun
01-04-2011, 12:56 PM
I am extremely grateful Lee jeans, plain t-shirt and Nike's get me thru the day.

Guess I'm the only one around here who still rolls in Tuff-Skins.

rkell87
01-04-2011, 04:17 PM
Cordovan as in the color, or cordovan as in the leather is shell cordovan? I don't think Rockport offers shell, and if they did, no retailer in its right mind would offer it in a 2-for-1 deal. If so, let us know, so I can head down to wherever and get a pair :eek:
the color, but they are shinier than the picture shows

WV Cowboy
01-05-2011, 10:30 AM
I didn't read through this entire thread, so this may have already been said, .. but what a shame it is that who you are in an interview is not more important than what suit you are wearing.

:cool:

Hoofbite
01-05-2011, 11:43 AM
Just so I don't screw this up guys.......

I'm headin out for a pair of shoes. What color?

Serious. If you were going to get a pair of shoes that can pretty go with everything, what you going with?

bbgun
01-05-2011, 11:48 AM
Just so I don't screw this up guys.......

I'm headin out for a pair of shoes. What color?

Serious. If you were going to get a pair of shoes that can pretty go with everything, what you going with?

Black goes with more pants than brown.

Hoofbite
01-05-2011, 11:48 AM
Black goes with more pants than brown.

Guess I should have said I have black.

bbgun
01-05-2011, 11:59 AM
Guess I should have said I have black.

I guess that leaves dark brown.

Hoofbite
01-05-2011, 12:04 PM
I guess that leaves dark brown.

Nice!!!

I'd sure hate for my career to get derailed before it really starts because I showed up wearing the wrong combination of colors.

Yeagermeister
01-05-2011, 12:05 PM
Nice!!!

I'd sure hate for my career to get derailed before it really starts because I showed up wearing the wrong combination of colors.

Oh the horror :eek:

Dallas
01-05-2011, 12:56 PM
Oh the horror :eek:


Imagine a dark suit w/ black shoes? You would probably get FIRED in your interview for wearing that get up, huh?

bbgun
01-05-2011, 01:17 PM
Imagine a dark suit w/ black shoes? You would probably get FIRED in your interview for wearing that get up, huh?

When you think about it, there's really only three shoe color options for a white collar environment: black; dark brown; light brown.

Sam I Am
01-05-2011, 01:24 PM
When you think about it, there's really only three shoe color options for a white collar environment: black; dark brown; light brown.

The oxblood guys are going to be pissed! :laugh2:

Number82
01-06-2011, 04:39 PM
I went on an interview yesterday for a lateral/non-lateral move ... Same position/title, but 15K more per year and a bigger company (top 3 in the industry nationally) with more room for advancement. I wore a grey three-button suit ... I got a call today for a second interview next week. So either, my three-button suit was good enough, or I just interview really freakin well haha.

rkell87
01-06-2011, 08:52 PM
Guess I should have said I have black.
id ask theo but the advice i got was for burgandy/cordovan they pretty much fit any suit color thay black doesnt though brown would be recommened for a brown suit

SaltwaterServr
01-06-2011, 09:24 PM
The two I have coming:

http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_100822

Got it in the Charcoal/Black stripe.

and this one in Charcoal:

http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_100506

The first one was considerably less expensive than the current listed price. I caught it on one of their "deals of the day" when they only had a few colors and sizes. I went to check it out at a retail location here in town, and the pin striped black looks sharp. I asked the guy helping me out if it would be acceptable for a funeral and he recommended going away from anything pin striped, and it was more a business suit. They didn't have my size here, so we ended up ordering it online.

rkell87
01-06-2011, 09:42 PM
The two I have coming:

http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_100822

Got it in the Charcoal/Black stripe.

and this one in Charcoal:

http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_100506

The first one was considerably less expensive than the current listed price. I caught it on one of their "deals of the day" when they only had a few colors and sizes. I went to check it out at a retail location here in town, and the pin striped black looks sharp. I asked the guy helping me out if it would be acceptable for a funeral and he recommended going away from anything pin striped, and it was more a business suit. They didn't have my size here, so we ended up ordering it online.
i like the solid one better jmo though. i just got my suits from the Tailor today, i am very happy with them. the lady gave a lesson on folding pants though lol i was a little embarrassed:o:

SaltwaterServr
01-06-2011, 09:47 PM
i like the solid one better jmo though. i just got my suits from the Tailor today, i am very happy with them. the lady gave a lesson on folding pants though lol i was a little embarrassed:o:

I'm not sure why they're calling it black. In person, there are black suits and charcoal, and this one seemed to be a dark charcoal, but not black.

rkell87
01-06-2011, 09:54 PM
I'm not sure why they're calling it black. In person, there are black suits and charcoal, and this one seemed to be a dark charcoal, but not black.
the stock picture is charcoal, if you click black it changes

SaltwaterServr
01-06-2011, 09:58 PM
the stock picture is charcoal, if you click black it changes

No, on the pinstripe one where the stock picture is the blue patterned suit. That one in person looks more dark charcoal/light charcoal pin stripe than black/pinstripe.

rkell87
01-06-2011, 10:01 PM
No, on the pinstripe one where the stock picture is the blue patterned suit. That one in person looks more dark charcoal/light charcoal pin stripe than black/pinstripe.
yeah the pic looks black with charcoal pinstripe

Cowboyslife
01-06-2011, 11:23 PM
The type of suit you wear doesn't really make or break the impact of the occasion, it's the colors and style that you should be aware of. Simple, bold colored suits should fit just about any important occasion. You should be fine with what you have linked there.

rkell87
01-07-2011, 12:56 AM
The two I have coming:

http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_100822

Got it in the Charcoal/Black stripe.

and this one in Charcoal:

http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_100506

The first one was considerably less expensive than the current listed price. I caught it on one of their "deals of the day" when they only had a few colors and sizes. I went to check it out at a retail location here in town, and the pin striped black looks sharp. I asked the guy helping me out if it would be acceptable for a funeral and he recommended going away from anything pin striped, and it was more a business suit. They didn't have my size here, so we ended up ordering it online.
by the way, what are you going to pair with your suits? i think on my first interview im going to wear the navy suit with a white shirt and red tie

SaltwaterServr
01-07-2011, 01:02 AM
by the way, what are you going to pair with your suits? i think on my first interview im going to wear the navy suit with a white shirt and red tie

I've got dress shirts and ties out the wazzoo. What I don't have are pocket squares.

I was thinking of asking Theo's advice on that, going with the power tie or not for a first interview.

rkell87
01-07-2011, 01:05 AM
I've got dress shirts and ties out the wazzoo. What I don't have are pocket squares.

I was thinking of asking Theo's advice on that, going with the power tie or not for a first interview.
he is in the opposite sex thread if you want to lol.

Cowboyslife
01-07-2011, 01:07 AM
he is in the opposite sex thread if you want to lol.

But with 5 naked guys without ties.

SaltwaterServr
01-07-2011, 01:11 AM
But with 5 naked guys without ties.

:confused: Is that supposed to be funny?

Cowboyslife
01-07-2011, 01:12 AM
:confused: Is that supposed to be funny?

Not exactly, I was aiming for cutting.

rkell87
01-07-2011, 01:13 AM
:confused: Is that supposed to be funny?
yeah but you would have to read the other thread. right now theo is talking about his wife in a room with 5 naked men

SaltwaterServr
01-07-2011, 01:13 AM
yeah but you would have to read the other thread. right now theo is talking about his wife in a room with 5 naked men

:eek:

Dallas
01-07-2011, 01:14 AM
But with 5 naked guys without ties.


Oh they got ties. They all got power ties and brown shoes, but thats all.


Boringly awkward...I know!


But you have to ask yourself....are any of them "attractive"?

Cowboyslife
01-07-2011, 01:16 AM
Oh they got ties. They all got power ties and brown shoes, but thats all.


Boringly awkward...I know!


But you have to ask yourself....are any of them "attractive"?

My mind says yes, but my body says maybe.

SaltwaterServr
01-07-2011, 01:18 AM
My mind says yes, but my body says maybe.

NTTAWWT??

Cowboyslife
01-07-2011, 01:20 AM
NTTAWWT??

I hope not. I don't feel like being stoned in the streets.

theogt
01-07-2011, 09:53 AM
I've got dress shirts and ties out the wazzoo. What I don't have are pocket squares.

I was thinking of asking Theo's advice on that, going with the power tie or not for a first interview.I wouldn't go with a power tie. But I wouldn't go with some crazy pattern either like something from Vineyard Vines or some whacked out paisleys on acid. It has to be subtle. Make sure the tie has no sheen whatsoever.

With a charcoal suit, I'd go with a white shirt and a blue or green tie. Maybe something like this:

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=212&Product_Id=841983&Parent_Id=210&default_color=Navy-red&sort_by=&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=

Or this:

http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446363 298&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=282574491979089&bmUID=iRvVNr3&ev19=1:17

Or green:

http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446366 164&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=282574491979257&bmUID=iRvAwh3&ev19=4:15

Or the green one here:

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?itemId=prod112410040&parentId=cat14850749&masterId=cat14560760&index=32&cmCat=cat000000cat000470cat21150736cat14560760cat1 4850749

The key is get the perfect dimple like the one in the Brooks Brothers link.

ABQCOWBOY
01-07-2011, 10:42 AM
I've read through this thread and all I can say is that I've never hired anybody because of their suit. The things I look for are very different. The best advice I could give is to know and understand your audience as best you can. Don't wear your jeans hanging off your arse unless your inteviewing for the local GAP. Be prepared to give a good interview, pay attention to the substance of that process and be less concerned with what you are wearing. You'll do fine.

:)