View Full Version : So is the Coakley decision coming in 20 minutes?
Any predictions? It'd be sad to see him go, but I'm not sure he really serves any purpose now that the 3-4 will be implimented at least on some basis of consistency. And there's no reason to have Coakley here just for name value.
ManicDepressiveMan
03-01-2005, 02:37 PM
Kick him to the curb. Who cares?
Crown Royal
03-01-2005, 02:37 PM
Any predictions? It'd be sad to see him go, but I'm not sure he really serves any purpose now that the 3-4 will be implimented at least on some basis of consistency. And there's no reason to have Coakley here just for name value.
I don't see him staying. He was unhappy here last season - why would he take a paycut to be unhappy again.
I also don't see us keeping him, which is sad but true.
Qwickdraw
03-01-2005, 02:38 PM
I think he'll take a cut to stay in Big D.
Cajuncowboy
03-01-2005, 02:38 PM
Any predictions? It'd be sad to see him go, but I'm not sure he really serves any purpose now that the 3-4 will be implimented at least on some basis of consistency. And there's no reason to have Coakley here just for name value.
I think he's gone. Just don't see him sticking around at a reduced role and reduced money. He will find a home somewhere.
Pleeeeeease don't let it be Washington.
Portland Fanatic
03-01-2005, 02:39 PM
Kick him to the curb. Who cares?
I'm sure he's gone...especially in a 3-4, but to say kick him to the curb??? C'mon...he's been a class act for the boys and has had some very good years...he deserves a little better then that.
Roy Williams
03-01-2005, 02:40 PM
Dale-
I may be wrong, but I heard that Coakley had until 4PM to restructure:confused:
I think he's gone. Just don't see him sticking around at a reduced role and reduced money. He will find a home somewhere.
Pleeeeeease don't let it be Washington.
As sad as it may be, I'm not really concerned with where Coakley goes. He's a smallish player that relies on speed, and at his age, his speed and playmaking ability have significantly diminished.
Dale-
I may be wrong, but I heard that Coakley had until 4PM to restructure:confused:
Isn't that ET though? The article at CowboysPlus.com last night said 3 p.m.
Juke99
03-01-2005, 02:41 PM
Ya know, it's an ironic thing that when Jerry finally made up his mind to sign a LB to a long term deal, after letting some truly good ones go, that Coakley was the one he signed
Coakley has been good for what he does... but his size truly does limit what the defense can do...one of the reasons that the pass rush has been lacking is because Coakley, the few times he does blitz, gets stood up at the line because he lacks size.
I don't think his leaving would make much of a difference.
Cajuncowboy
03-01-2005, 02:41 PM
Dale-
I may be wrong, but I heard that Coakley had until 4PM to restructure:confused:
That would be 20 minutes. I'm sure it is 4 EST since the office is in NY.
BrAinPaiNt
03-01-2005, 02:42 PM
As sad as it may be, I'm not really concerned with where Coakley goes. He's a smallish player that relies on speed, and at his age, his speed and playmaking ability have significantly diminished.
http://www.nflplayers.com/images/players/24963.jpg
Look at those puppy dog eyes....how can you be so cold and heartless. :D
Duane
03-01-2005, 02:43 PM
Hate to see him go but I think he's a goner.
InmanRoshi
03-01-2005, 02:44 PM
With so many teams moving to the 3-4, the market for 5'10" 30 year old linebackers is probably pretty small. Is any team actually moving to the 4-3 this year instead of vice-versa? He might not be that high in demand elsewhere in any other role than what he has here ... nickel LB. He could stay here for no other reason than his family is here. He met his wife here and I believe he has children that go to school here. The Cowboys could keep him because nickel players do see a lot of snaps, he's not overly expensive if he restructures and he's a great lockerroom leader (hasn't missed a workout in over 7 years).
Its only that he played on the Cowboys when the team was so down that people are so non-chalant about him leaving. If he was the exact same player, multiple Pro Bowler, on some of the Superbowl winning teams, we'd have numerous posts on the board about what a great player he was, and sharing our favorite Coakley memory. Maybe not a Ring of Honor caliber player, but probably one of the top 5 LB's the Cowboys ever had.
Portland Fanatic
03-01-2005, 02:44 PM
That would be 20 minutes. I'm sure it is 4 EST since the office is in NY.
I read the same thing ...somewhere. I think we have 17 minutes left...
BrAinPaiNt
03-01-2005, 02:44 PM
Hate to see him go but I think he's a goner.
Same here....guy was a warrior for our team, gave it his all and despite his size he did a pretty good job, not great super stud job, but pretty darn good IMO.
Ya know, it's an ironic thing that when Jerry finally made up his mind to sign a LB to a long term deal, after letting some truly good ones go, that Coakley was the one he signed
Coakley has been good for what he does... but his size truly does limit what the defense can do...one of the reasons that the pass rush has been lacking is because Coakley, the few times he does blitz, gets stood up at the line because he lacks size.
I don't think his leaving would make much of a difference.
I never really minded the initial signing. He was a pretty solid player for this team from '97-'02 (I don't consider '03-'04 as anything significant), making, what, 3 Pro Bowl appearances in that stretch?
I always really liked his character and work ethic. Can't help but admire a guy who developed his strength by helping his dad lay bricks, and was able to make several Pro Bowls despite not even really being a true 5-10.
But as you said, production-wise as we stand today, his absence will not be felt. It seemed pretty evident Parcells was looking for any and every reason to take him out of the starting lineup, but James was (is) too big a stiff to take advantage of it.
ABQCOWBOY
03-01-2005, 02:45 PM
http://www.nflplayers.com/images/players/24963.jpg
Look at those puppy dog eyes....how can you be so cold and heartless. :D
Ahhhh...... those are Charlie Manson eyes BP. You been fielding softballs with the old brainpan again?
Jester33
03-01-2005, 02:46 PM
I would like to see him stay, but I really think its about time Bradie James gets his shot. Beside I would rather have 6'2 then 5'10 on the outside
BrAinPaiNt
03-01-2005, 02:46 PM
Ahhhh...... those are Charlie Manson eyes BP. You been fielding softballs with the old brainpan again?
You do know that Charlie was from my home state don't you. :D
scottsp
03-01-2005, 02:47 PM
I feel he will be getting the axe. While the substantial paycut is definitely warranted, I don't see him taking it.
Crown Royal
03-01-2005, 02:47 PM
I would like to see him stay, but I really think its about time Bradie James gets his shot. Beside I would rather have 6'2 then 5'10 on the outside
Bradie James got his "shot" and blew it. The guy is lost. He will have to have significantly improved mentally if he is to cut it as a starter. As in, know where his assignment is.
Otherwise, put a new body in there.
BrAinPaiNt
03-01-2005, 02:48 PM
I would like to see him stay, but I really think its about time Bradie James gets his shot. Beside I would rather have 6'2 then 5'10 on the outside
If brady can put it together then will probably get that shot.
First year he was too small (muscle/weight) last year when in he looked lost and too slow to make his move...more in decision process it appeared.
WoodysGirl
03-01-2005, 02:48 PM
I haven't read anywhere that said 4pm. They have to come to terms before tomorrow before his 500k roster bonus is due or he's a gonner. That article is the only thing I've seen referring to it.
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INDIANAPOLIS - Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said if the team does not restructure linebacker Dexter Coakley's contract before Wednesday, it likely will be forced to cut him.
Coakley has a $502,000 bonus due Wednesday and is set to cost $4.7 million against the salary cap.
"That creates a decision time for us, yes," Jones said of the bonus. "I don't know that anything has to be done, but we at least have to think about it before paying it."
Coakley, 33, wants to stay in Dallas, where he has played all eight seasons of his NFL career, and Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said there is a place for him in the defense. But Coakley is likely going to have to accept a reduced role. The Cowboys are in negotiations with his agent.
"I met with Dexter. He knows what I have in mind," Parcells said. "If he wants to do it, that's fine. If he doesn't want to do it, well, we'll see that when the time comes. He has my respect as a player. I talked to him about what's going on. And I've done it in plenty of time to give him time to think about it.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/11006643.htm
TheEnigma
03-01-2005, 02:49 PM
I thought I remembered reading an article a little while ago that stated that he knew what role he would have to take if he were to stay and he was willing to do it.
I think he stays.
Fletch
03-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Farewell Dexter! You had heart, but definitely lack the size that the evolving NFL requires these days.
ABQCOWBOY
03-01-2005, 02:50 PM
You do know that Charlie was from my home state don't you. :D
LOL!!!!!
Yeah, the old Axe of Evil SigPic is a dead give........ ahhh....... I mean, no. I didn't but you know what, I always thought they were a little rough on the guy.
~Looks over shoulder and begins to back way from keyboard slowly~
I haven't read anywhere that said 4pm. They have to come to terms before tomorrow before his 500k roster bonus is due or he's a gonner. That article is the only thing I've seen referring to it.
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INDIANAPOLIS - Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said if the team does not restructure linebacker Dexter Coakley's contract before Wednesday, it likely will be forced to cut him.
Coakley has a $502,000 bonus due Wednesday and is set to cost $4.7 million against the salary cap.
"That creates a decision time for us, yes," Jones said of the bonus. "I don't know that anything has to be done, but we at least have to think about it before paying it."
Coakley, 33, wants to stay in Dallas, where he has played all eight seasons of his NFL career, and Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said there is a place for him in the defense. But Coakley is likely going to have to accept a reduced role. The Cowboys are in negotiations with his agent.
"I met with Dexter. He knows what I have in mind," Parcells said. "If he wants to do it, that's fine. If he doesn't want to do it, well, we'll see that when the time comes. He has my respect as a player. I talked to him about what's going on. And I've done it in plenty of time to give him time to think about it.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/11006643.htm
The lead article on CowboysPlus.com by Todd Archer says we'll know Coakley's future by 3 p.m. today. I'll fetch the link, and article.
EDIT: Here ya go
http://www.cowboysplus.com/topstorync/stories/030105cpcowbriefs.f23017a2.html
"Decision day: Linebacker Dexter Coakley's future will be determined by 3 p.m. today. If he agrees to a restructured contract, he will remain with the Cowboys. If he doesn't, he probably will be cut because he is scheduled to receive a $502,000 roster bonus.
Vice president of player personnel Stephen Jones spoke briefly with Coakley's agent, Pat Dye, on Monday, and they are scheduled to talk again today. Coakley would count $4.7 million against the salary cap."
BrAinPaiNt
03-01-2005, 02:53 PM
LOL!!!!!
Yeah, the old Axe of Evil SigPic is a dead give........ ahhh....... I mean, no. I didn't but you know what, I always thought they were a little rough on the guy.
~Looks over shoulder and begins to back way from keyboard slowly~
lol :p:
accepts a backup and part time nickel type role job. And if injury happens we have a backup that can play.
WoodysGirl
03-01-2005, 03:00 PM
The lead article on CowboysPlus.com by Todd Archer says we'll know Coakley's future by 3 p.m. today. I'll fetch the link, and article.
EDIT: Here ya go
http://www.cowboysplus.com/topstorync/stories/030105cpcowbriefs.f23017a2.html
"Decision day: Linebacker Dexter Coakley's future will be determined by 3 p.m. today. If he agrees to a restructured contract, he will remain with the Cowboys. If he doesn't, he probably will be cut because he is scheduled to receive a $502,000 roster bonus.
Vice president of player personnel Stephen Jones spoke briefly with Coakley's agent, Pat Dye, on Monday, and they are scheduled to talk again today. Coakley would count $4.7 million against the salary cap."
Okey dokey. Thanks for finding it, because I knew I hadn't seen the deadline part.
Given Jerry's loyalty to players, if they're close, the deadline will probably lapse. I hope they can work something out, though. Dex is homegrown and deserves to retire a Cowboy, without playing for another team.
Juke99
03-01-2005, 03:02 PM
I never really minded the initial signing. He was a pretty solid player for this team from '97-'02 (I don't consider '03-'04 as anything significant), making, what, 3 Pro Bowl appearances in that stretch?
I always really liked his character and work ethic. Can't help but admire a guy who developed his strength by helping his dad lay bricks, and was able to make several Pro Bowls despite not even really being a true 5-10.
But as you said, production-wise as we stand today, his absence will not be felt. It seemed pretty evident Parcells was looking for any and every reason to take him out of the starting lineup, but James was (is) too big a stiff to take advantage of it.
I've always felt the team was limited by Coakley...Jimmy liked small LB's and Jerry, in Jimmy absence became a bit of a caricature of Jimmy.... Shiver was Stepnoski...Bjornson was Novacek...all the small LB's etc...but Jimmy's small LB's were never Coakley's size..
LA=Pancakemaker
03-01-2005, 03:03 PM
Hate to see him go but I think he's a goner
Thanks for the miss tackles and int's chump!
jobberone
03-01-2005, 03:05 PM
I think he'll stay. Parcells said he had a role with the team if he would take a cut. He has family here. His family is from Mt Pleasant SC and they are all good people and close. I think that will keep him in Dallas. Besides that I'm not sure he will have a sure deal anywhere else. I look for him to resign as a backup/nickel and play one year.
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