Tackles at the Senior Bowl

[MarionBarberThe4th]

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Id love to get a shot at Gabe or Tyron in R2.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Love the way Locker leads these guys. That guy is the real deal

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Brewer wasnt on my radar, but damn

[UnoDallas]

hey thanks alot

[RoyTheHammer]

Gabe isn't lasting to round 2. Trade down and get one of these guys. I don't see how we can afford not to. Pick up an extra 2nd, grab a DE and S or possibly another OL.

[visionary]

Gabe isn't lasting to round 2. Trade down and get one of these guys. I don't see how we can afford not to. Pick up an extra 2nd, grab a DE and S or possibly another OL.

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but sadly, it would make too much sense and not enough "splash" for our GM

[TheCount]

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but sadly, it would make too much sense and not enough "splash" for our GM

You kidding, Jerry would love to trade down. So we can selected some obscure, bow legged lineman 2 rounds higher than he was expected to go. Or perhaps there is a QB to WR conversion player we like.

[NeonDeion21]

This was great. Really enjoyed watching these.

[CATCH17]

Good to hear Mayock confirm my belief that Carimi could play LT in this league.

I'm shocked that he has him rated as the 4th best tackle though.

[CATCH17]

Gabe isn't lasting to round 2. Trade down and get one of these guys. I don't see how we can afford not to. Pick up an extra 2nd, grab a DE and S or possibly another OL.

I agree but this team needs defenders so bad that we have to heavily consider that too.

We need a defense and a oline that can impose their will.

[Romo 2 Austin]

DeMarcus Love in the second is probably our best bet.

[ms9221]

DeMarcus Love in the second is probably our best bet.
Gabe Carimi is the man among boys he one that fix our style he will not be afriad anybody he is the best, and he has played the best.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Gabe Carimi is the man among boys he one that fix our style he will not be afriad anybody he is the best, and he has played the best.

Too high at #9, won't be there at #41

[CATCH17]

Too high at #9, won't be there at #41

I would be all for a trade down if Peterson and Quinn are gone.

Prince Akumara does nadda for me.

[CanuckCowboysFan]

If we could somehow land Cam Jordan and Gabe Carimi I'd walk around with a woody for 3 straight months.

I don't know what the heck Mayock is thinking having Costanzo and Nate ahead of Gabe.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I would be all for a trade down if Peterson and Quinn are gone.

Prince Akumara does nadda for me.

Fairley, Dareus?

[CATCH17]

If we could somehow land Cam Jordan and Gabe Carimi I'd walk around with a woody for 3 straight months.

I don't know what the heck Mayock is thinking having Costanzo and Nate ahead of Gabe.

More upside I guess is his thinking. The upside looks marginal to me. Especially when you consider how superior Gabe is at run blocking.

Fairley, Dareus?

I'd let someone give us the farm in a trade down. Im not opposed to taking either but I have a bad feeling about Fairley.


Also I'm becoming a Cam Jordan believer. He brings it every down.

But if we're just going to ask our DEs to stop the run the Dareus is the guy. But why not just stick with Spears?

[Manwiththeplan]

If we could somehow land Cam Jordan and Gabe Carimi I'd walk around with a woody for 3 straight months.

I don't know what the heck Mayock is thinking having Costanzo and Nate ahead of Gabe.

I would say they have a higher upside, but also a lower floor. I think at worst, Carimi will be a solid starter at RT. At best he'll be a notch below a pro-bowl player at LT.

[Chris in Arizona]

Although I have Tyron Smith #1 right now I will say that Cirmimi is the most NFL ready right now. He could come in and start at RT for us tomorrow.

Nate Solder is growing on me. After watching the Senior Bowl practice I went back and skimmed through some Colorado games. He is better than I originally thought.

[Sam I Am]

Although I have Tyron Smith #1 right now I will say that Cirmimi is the most NFL ready right now. He could come in and start at RT for us tomorrow.

Nate Solder is growing on me. After watching the Senior Bowl practice I went back and skimmed through some Colorado games. He is better than I originally thought.

Lets trade up and get them both! (Tyron and Gabe) :laugh2:

As for Solder. I'm not interested in a zone blocking running scheme, so I'll pass on him.

[CanuckCowboysFan]

Although I have Tyron Smith #1 right now I will say that Cirmimi is the most NFL ready right now. He could come in and start at RT for us tomorrow.

Nate Solder is growing on me. After watching the Senior Bowl practice I went back and skimmed through some Colorado games. He is better than I originally thought.


I like Smith to, but I just don't see him being able to help right away, not even at RT. I think in a year or two though, we have a pro bowler. But I want immediate help, like you said Carimi is the most NFL ready.

And for Solder, I just don't see it in him. Cam Jordan made him his ***** the past couple days.

[CanuckCowboysFan]

I would say they have a higher upside, but also a lower floor. I think at worst, Carimi will be a solid starter at RT. At best he'll be a notch below a pro-bowl player at LT.

I'll take the prospect who you know for sure will be a good NFL starter then the guy who has potential to be a pro bowler, but a potential bust aswell. Just me.

[Manwiththeplan]

I'll take the prospect who you know for sure will be a good NFL starter then the guy who has potential to be a pro bowler, but a potential bust aswell. Just me.

I'd take Carimi in this situation, but it's not that cut and dry. Sometimes upside is worth the gamble.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Reports I am hearing is that Sherrod and Carimi are 1-2 for OTs at the senior bowl. Solder is struggling. Kerrigan is taking solder to school apparenty.

[Chris in Arizona]

Reports I am hearing is that Sherrod and Carimi are 1-2 for OTs at the senior bowl. Solder is struggling. Kerrigan is taking solder to school apparenty.

You realize that there are several reports right now? I just read one that said Solder was killing it. I'll see for myself tonight but be careful of all of these reports. The "experts" have as many different opinions as we do.


Kerrigan looked like a monster yesterday. High-motor kid, pretty good technique too.

[Sam I Am]

Solder is poop, lets move on!

[UnoDallas]

Reports I am hearing is that Sherrod and Carimi are 1-2 for OTs at the senior bowl. Solder is struggling. Kerrigan is taking solder to school apparenty.

gawd just look at my signature

[chicago JK]

I think a lot of lineman are going to go mid first and into the early second. I expect a big run. A lot of bad teams have poor line play and I expect some will go early in round 2. But there are a lot of typically good teams who really need line help. The Steelers, Patiots, Ravens, Colts, Eagles, Bears and other good teams in 2010 really have a need to improve on the line. No matter how poor the top lineman are in this draft, it is going to be tough watching them go off the board late first round if we don't get one at 9.

[ABQCOWBOY]

You realize that there are several reports right now? I just read one that said Solder was killing it. I'll see for myself tonight but be careful of all of these reports. The "experts" have as many different opinions as we do.


Kerrigan looked like a monster yesterday. High-motor kid, pretty good technique too.

Solder is a heck of a talent. He's not strong enough but his agility for his size is scary good. I would not be surprised to see him manhandled early in his career but in a year or two, he's going to be one of the top LT in the NFL IMO. His footwork is too good. JMO

[NeonDeion21]

Solder is a heck of a talent. He's not strong enough but his agility for his size is scary good. I would not be surprised to see him manhandled early in his career but in a year or two, he's going to be one of the top LT in the NFL IMO. His footwork is too good. JMO

Sounds like a RT starter first few years until he really hits the weight room. After that, the sky is the limit for him.

[RoyTheHammer]

Reports I am hearing is that Sherrod and Carimi are 1-2 for OTs at the senior bowl. Solder is struggling. Kerrigan is taking solder to school apparenty.

Actually i have been seeing that Carimi, Solder, and Constanzo are the top tier of OT's and Sherrod is in the second tier, along with Lee Ziemba and Demarcus Love.

If we want to go OT in the first round though, i say we make sure we get Carimi. Trade down to the mid teens.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Actually i have been seeing that Carimi, Solder, and Constanzo are the top tier of OT's and Sherrod is in the second tier, along with Lee Ziemba and Demarcus Love.

If we want to go OT in the first round though, i say we make sure we get Carimi. Trade down to the mid teens.

Heard Sherrod looked great today..just reporting what I am hearing...

[DFWJC]

Fairley, Dareus?
I don't we have to worry about Fairley, as he'll probably go in the top 2 ro3.
Maybe that's a good thing.

[acer941]

I like Smith to, but I just don't see him being able to help right away, not even at RT. I think in a year or two though, we have a pro bowler. But I want immediate help, like you said Carimi is the most NFL ready.

And for Solder, I just don't see it in him. Cam Jordan made him his ***** the past couple days.

Solder is out there dominating from the brief moments that I get to see Solder go 1 on 1 he just stone walls the defender or leads them right past the QB. I think he is clearly the number 1 guy for the OT position.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Would anyone trade up from 40 to late 1st to get Carimi/Tyron?

I know 99% of you want to trade down from 9 but I still think we have a shot at Quinn or PP there. Locker is making friends at the Senior Bowl.

Huff, Clabo, Quinn, Carimi, Moffit?

[UnoDallas]

Solder is out there dominating from the brief moments that I get to see Solder go 1 on 1 he just stone walls the defender or leads them right past the QB. I think he is clearly the number 1 guy for the OT position.

Nate Solder is in contention for being the best left tackle prospect in the 2011 NFL Draft, but he is not living up to the hype.
He has impressive height and feet but he does not have the athleticism or knee bend that makes him an elite tackle.
He has a chance to go up against the very best this week, but for now I am considering him a very risky prospect.

[RoyTheHammer]

Heard Sherrod looked great today..just reporting what I am hearing...

Same here.. i heard that from Scout's, Inc. coverage.

I would prefer Carimi, but thats just me. Solder/Smith/Sherrod/Constanzo wouldn't be terrible either.

[DFWJC]

Would anyone trade up from 40 to late 1st to get Carimi/Tyron?

I know 99% of you want to trade down from 9 but I still think we have a shot at Quinn or PP there. ?
Yes!

If a top guy we like is there at 9 but another slips to the very late 1st or very early second, I would be up making that move (as long as it wasn't too big of a jump).

I'll take quality all day over quantity.

[28 Joker]

Tyron Smith is coming...

These guys are not going to be able to hold him off, imo.

If things go as Smith plans, he will be the first OT picked and in the mix for the top 10.

The run on the defensive linemen starts at pick 1. The run on the offensive tackles will start right after the top 10 or at 9 if Dallas takes one. If you want an offensive tackle at 9 and get cute and trade down, you may not get one or the guy that you want.

OT is clearly a strength of this draft, and when they start coming off the board, they are going to go fast.

[Chris in Arizona]

Tyron Smith is coming...

These guys are not going to be able to hold him off, imo.

If things go as Smith plans, he will be the first OT picked and in the mix for the top 10.

Unless something unforeseen happens, I'm predicting Smith to go anywhere from 8 to 15. I have also heard from more than one person that the Cowboys are extremely interested in him.

We'll see, draft time always turns everyone into intentional liars.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Yes!

If a top guy we like is there at 9 but another slips to the very late 1st or very early second, I would be up making that move (as long as it wasn't too big of a jump).

I'll take quality all day over quantity.

Tyron Smith is coming...

These guys are not going to be able to hold him off, imo.

If things go as Smith plans, he will be the first OT picked and in the mix for the top 10.

The run on the defensive linemen starts at pick 1. The run on the offensive tackles will start right after the top 10 or at 9 if Dallas takes one. If you want an offensive tackle at 9 and get cute and trade down, you may not get one or the guy that you want.

OT is clearly a strength of this draft and when they start coming off the board, they are going to go fast.

I think the tier is set at 5. Tyron, Carimi, Castonzo, Solder, and Sherrod. I think we should be able to get one w/ our 2nd pick. Hopefully its Carimi or Tyron. I havent been paying much attention to the red-headed stepchild Sherrod.

[acer941]

OT is clearly a strength of this draft, and when they start coming off the board, they are going to go fast.

Remember when there was so much B.S. about this draft class being the weakest for OT in years.

[btcutter]

I don't understand the love for Smith.

270 lb Tackle who probably have great feet but too light and too thin. He's going to get tossed like a rag doll in the NFL at least in his 1st two seasons and that may destroy his confidence.

I think he's like Bruce Campbell (sp) like year. Lot of hype. Again my 1st round pick better be ready to start year 1. Not some developmental guy for 2-3 year down the line.

Carimi may have the highest floor just from what I've heard on the interviews. Worse case scenario is he get kicked in and play G like he's done at the senior bowl.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

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Hard not to be impressed w/ Jordan. These drills are tough for OL but these guys are going balls out
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[acer941]

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Hard not to be impressed w/ Jordan. These drills are tough for OL but these guys are going balls out
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Is it me or is Nate Solder a BEAST.:laugh1:

[Chocolate Lab]

Is it me or is Nate Solder a BEAST.:laugh1:

Noticed Mayock has him as his #1 tackle now. :)

[Sam I Am]

Noticed Mayock has him as his #1 tackle now. :)

Mayock is an imbecile. You can't listen to what he says. :)

[jterrell]

Carimi may well be there at 41. He is a run blocking RT at this point. He doesn't look very agile at all. Probably reminds many of Phil Loadholt, the monstrous starting RT for Minny. Played OG some in practice because they had two other OTs.

Solder is very much like Free. He has awesome feet and good technique but can struggle with bull rushes. Isn't the strongest dude just yet.

My favorite OT is Derrek Sherrod so I want to see what he has later today.

Lotsa good players in this draft class and we should get a couple where we draft.

[Marktui]

I agree but this team needs defenders so bad that we have to heavily consider that too.

We need a defense and a oline that can impose their will.

Agree!! I think there will be quality tackles in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. But the drop off of defenders in the later rounds would be too great to pass up on some of the guys in the first round.

[GloryDaysRBack]

I dont think this defense is as far away as many seem to think..I think coaching/scheme will upgrade this defense big time..Add in 1 good safety and I think we can easily be a top 10 defense..of course, this is assuming we hang on to spears and bowen..

this teams biggest issue is definitely offensive line..we need 2 new starters on the OL

If we can HIT on 4 new starters...and when I say hit..I mean we have 4 new starters and they all play well...we should be fine

RT
RG
S
DE (this one may not even be necessary..Bowen and Spears might be good enough..)

[The Realist]

Brewer is made of glass. Missing all of 2007, part of 2008 and 2010.

His last name is too close to Brewster and from the same part of the country as Brewster.

Has Ziemba spent any time at RT in Mobile?

If so, how did he look?

[The Realist]

McShay had Solder as his Day 1 player of the day.

[RoyTheHammer]

Carimi may well be there at 41. He is a run blocking RT at this point. He doesn't look very agile at all. Probably reminds many of Phil Loadholt, the monstrous starting RT for Minny. Played OG some in practice because they had two other OTs.

Solder is very much like Free. He has awesome feet and good technique but can struggle with bull rushes. Isn't the strongest dude just yet.

My favorite OT is Derrek Sherrod so I want to see what he has later today.

Lotsa good players in this draft class and we should get a couple where we draft.

Carimi and Loadhoalt arn't that similar. Loadholt is considerably bigger, Carimi was being raved about the first day at the senior bowl because he's quicker and has better footwork than most thought. Hes definately not making it to the second round.

Sherrod on the other hand.. he might.

[CATCH17]

Unless something unforeseen happens, I'm predicting Smith to go anywhere from 8 to 15. I have also heard from more than one person that the Cowboys are extremely interested in him.

We'll see, draft time always turns everyone into intentional liars.



I just don't trust that Smith can put on the weight...


Why risk it when you can get a complete player like Carimi with 0 questions about what he'll be. He's a sure thing.


I wouldn't touch Smith until the 2nd based on his weight.


I can't even say he is a day 1 starter because of his size.

And you know I was touting this guy before anyone else on this forum too.

[CATCH17]

Same here.. i heard that from Scout's, Inc. coverage.

I would prefer Carimi, but thats just me. Solder/Smith/Sherrod/Constanzo wouldn't be terrible either.


I like Sherrod as well but if you draft him I think you gotta move Doug Free to RT.

Im not opposed to moving Free back to the Right side either.

[Sam I Am]

I just don't trust that Smith can put on the weight...


Why risk it when you can get a complete player like Carimi with 0 questions about what he'll be. He's a sure thing.


I wouldn't touch Smith until the 2nd based on his weight.


I can't even say he is a day 1 starter because of his size.

And you know I was touting this guy before anyone else on this forum too.
I don't think there is any way Smith starts this year. I do think he will end up being the best tackle in the draft though.

[CATCH17]

I don't think there is any way Smith starts this year. I do think he will end up being the best tackle in the draft though.

Or the best blocking Tight End in the draft....


Why risk it with guys you know have the frame to hold more weight and are already big guys?

[Sam I Am]

I like Sherrod as well but if you draft him I think you gotta move Doug Free to RT.

Im not opposed to moving Free back to the Right side either.

I think Smith in a year or so, could become your franchise LT and if the Cowboys had that, I would gladly move Free to RT.

I'm just not comfortable drafting him now in the first round. It's like your damned if you do and your damned if you don't with Tyron in this draft.

He could have easily been a top 5 or maybe even top 3 draft pick if he waited one more year to bulk up.

[dallasfaniac]

And you know I was touting this guy before anyone else on this forum too.

And when was this? I know Chris had mentioned him during his sophomore season.

[jterrell]

Carimi and Loadhoalt arn't that similar. Loadholt is considerably bigger, Carimi was being raved about the first day at the senior bowl because he's quicker and has better footwork than most thought. Hes definately not making it to the second round.

Sherrod on the other hand.. he might.

I believe you are 100% incorrect but that's what happens this early in the process. People are going to disagree.

Facts:
Carimi played some OG already at the Senior Bowl. I can link you any number of reports saying he is the 3rd best OT on the North squad. His bend is a bit worrisome but he does have a good initial punch and can certainly run block. He did consistently rag doll Beal but I expect him to win that match up. Against Jordan he was hit and miss which isn't bad but the misses came later.

He is 6'8" and does not have great agility.

Sherrod is 6'5" but has massive wing span and hand size(both tops at the Senior Bowl I believe and is 312 without any flab). He is a very big guy all around and with an impressive frame without being overly tall.

Sherrod faced top notch SEC defenses his entire career not the slightly lesser Big 12 or Big 10.

Anyways we'll see where these rank after the game and can follow them.

I'd love to get both guys and believe we can.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I like Sherrod as well but if you draft him I think you gotta move Doug Free to RT.

Im not opposed to moving Free back to the Right side either.


Ouch. Start a rookie at LT when we know what Free is on the blindside?

He just played great at LT and we also now have to give him a new contract as a RT? Why would he sign that when he can get LT money as a FA from a ton of teams

[CATCH17]

And when was this? I know Chris had mentioned him during his sophomore season.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191058

[CATCH17]

Ouch. Start a rookie at LT when we know what Free is on the blindside?

He just played great at LT and we also now have to give him a new contract as a RT? Why would he sign that when he can get LT money as a FA from a ton of teams

I agree with everything. Thats why I would take Carimi over any tackle in this class.


But if you take Sherrod you almost have to put Free @ RT because he is a bigtime finesse player.

[The Realist]

I believe you are 100% incorrect but that's what happens this early in the process. People are going to disagree.

Facts:
Carimi played some OG already at the Senior Bowl. I can link you any number of reports saying he is the 3rd best OT on the North squad. His bend is a bit worrisome but he does have a good initial punch and can certainly run block. He did consistently rag doll Beal but I expect him to win that match up. Against Jordan he was hit and miss which isn't bad but the misses came later.

He is 6'8" and does not have great agility.

Sherrod is 6'5" but has massive wing span and hand size(both tops at the Senior Bowl I believe and is 312 without any flab). He is a very big guy all around and with an impressive frame without being overly tall.

Sherrod faced top notch SEC defenses his entire career not the slightly lesser Big 12 or Big 10.

Anyways we'll see where these rank after the game and can follow them.

I'd love to get both guys and believe we can.

Why would you want both and where do you play them?

[dallasfaniac]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191058

Like I said, Chris had talked about him back in his sophomore season a full year before this thread. I guess I don't understand why people feel the need to proclaim they were the first to pimp a player that was already highly regarded by most.

[dallasfaniac]

Facts:
Carimi played some OG already at the Senior Bowl.

Actually, that is something they always do during the senior bowl. Usually, it's with ones that don't move as well, but an announcer mentioned that this year, the north squad was trying all of the tackles on the inside and that the scouts love it. Carimi is more of a right tackle in the mold of Jon Runyan, but he has been tearing it up at guard.

[CATCH17]

Like I said, Chris had talked about him back in his sophomore season a full year before this thread. I guess I don't understand why people feel the need to proclaim they were the first to pimp a player that was already highly regarded by most.

Eh.. I don't think anyone had him in high regards outside of USC fans who knew anything about him.


I knew about Sam Shields last year too. The NFL didn't.

Same with Earl Thomas. I was the 1st guy on that waggon.

[RoyTheHammer]

I believe you are 100% incorrect but that's what happens this early in the process. People are going to disagree.

Facts:
Carimi played some OG already at the Senior Bowl. I can link you any number of reports saying he is the 3rd best OT on the North squad. His bend is a bit worrisome but he does have a good initial punch and can certainly run block. He did consistently rag doll Beal but I expect him to win that match up. Against Jordan he was hit and miss which isn't bad but the misses came later.

He is 6'8" and does not have great agility.

Sherrod is 6'5" but has massive wing span and hand size(both tops at the Senior Bowl I believe and is 312 without any flab). He is a very big guy all around and with an impressive frame without being overly tall.

Sherrod faced top notch SEC defenses his entire career not the slightly lesser Big 12 or Big 10.

Anyways we'll see where these rank after the game and can follow them.

I'd love to get both guys and believe we can.

Im just telling you what i've been hearing.

Actually i saw the measurables and it looked like Carimi was top 5 in both hand size and wingspan.. i don't believe Sherrod was top 5 in both. If you can go back and find the numbers that would help with this discussion.

Carimi has been doing very well in the one on ones, against those great pass rushing DL. Mayock commented on how he was definately a first tier OT in this draft and i believe McShay said that Sherrod was in the second tier.

I'll look back to see where i initially found this info..

[CATCH17]

Im just telling you what i've been hearing.

Actually i saw the measurables and it looked like Carimi was top 5 in both hand size and wingspan.. i don't believe Sherrod was top 5 in both. If you can go back and find the numbers that would help with this discussion.

Carimi has been doing very well in the one on ones, against those great pass rushing DL. Mayock commented on how he was definately a first tier OT in this draft and i believe McShay said that Sherrod was in the second tier.

I'll look back to see where i initially found this info..

I heard it too.


They were projecting Sherrod as a 2nd rounder.

[RoyTheHammer]

I heard it too.


They were projecting Sherrod as a 2nd rounder.

Yea, i think that NFL Network video in one of the other threads is where i saw the hand size and wingspan measurables..

..and this was from a SI write up on the senior bowl.

Gabe Carimi/T/Wisconsin: Carimi was better than advertised and looked effective as a run blocker and in pass protection. He played with good fundamentals and worked his blocks hard all afternoon. Carimi was stronger than most expected and also displayed solid footwork. He constantly showed the ability to knock pass rushers away from the action.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/24/senior.bowl.monday/index.html#ixzz1CBV7nCZ6

[RoyTheHammer]

–Of the offensive lineman, Gabe Carimi was the most impressive. He won every single one of his battles and was going up against Jeremy Beal and Pierre Allen. His work came at left tackle and left guard.

http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/25/senior-bowl-day-2-north-squad-practice-notes/

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ESPNDallas' look at practice: We believe the Cowboys need some help along the offensive line and possibly along the pass rush. In one-on-one drills we watched Alabama left tackle James Carpenter (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/27044/james-carpenter) hold Texas' Sam Acho (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/27226/sam-acho) of Dallas St. Mark's on a bullrush as if he wasn't even there. Carpenter displayed good power and footwork. But Acho came right back in the same drill and blew right past Mississippi State tackle Derek Sherrod (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/27047/derek-sherrod). ...

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4677537/senior-bowl-practices-day-2

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I agree with everything. Thats why I would take Carimi over any tackle in this class.


But if you take Sherrod you almost have to put Free @ RT because he is a bigtime finesse player.


Thats why I think we can get one of these tackles w/ our 2nd pick(after PP/Quinn at 9). We thought Bulaga could go 5 to KC and he went to the mid 20's.

Then the pick after that there should still be plenty to chose from in the G/C group. Moffit/O'Dowd/Wiz all are starting prospects

Then a beefy DL prospect after that(Huff in FA so we good at safety)

I have mapped out the draft in January

[CATCH17]

Speaking of Sam Acho I think he is flying way to far under everyones radar.

The guy makes plays.

[RoyTheHammer]

-Along the offensive line, Baylor’s Danny Watkins was impressive. He won all of his one-on-one’s in what seemed to be a shortened session in the pit. Lee Ziemba continued his struggles this week as he didn’t win any one-on-one’s. KJ Wright beat Ziemba to the outside twice. DeMarcus Love of Arkansas also struggled at left tackle. Derrick Sherrod failed to live up to expectations, but hasn’t been horrible.

http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/26/senior-bowl-day-3-south-squad-practice-notes/

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-No offensive lineman really stood out on the South. They will have a hard time containing the North squad’s Cameron Jordan and Christian Ballard on game day. They did nothing to generate buzz. Danny Watkins was the most impressive of the offensive lineman. He won every one on one battle sent his way. Auburn’s Lee Ziemba really struggled badly when he was playing at guard. He didn’t win a single one on one matchup

http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/25/senior-bowl-day-2-south-squad-practice-notes/

[CATCH17]

Thats why I think we can get one of these tackles w/ our 2nd pick(after PP/Quinn at 9). We thought Bulaga could go 5 to KC and he went to the mid 20's.

Then the pick after that there should still be plenty to chose from in the G/C group. Moffit/O'Dowd/Wiz all are starting prospects

Then a beefy DL prospect after that(Huff in FA so we good at safety)

I have mapped out the draft in January

Yeah.. But Carimi is the absolute perfect fit imo.


Everyone else just makes me want to think more about sliding Free back to RT.


The good thing about Carimi is I think he can play LT too if for some reason Douglas Free decides to flop.

[RoyTheHammer]

Yeah.. But Carimi is the absolute perfect fit imo.


Everyone else just makes me want to think more about sliding Free back to RT.


The good thing about Carimi is I think he can play LT too if for some reason Douglas Free decides to flop.

Gabe really is the total package. He's mean, he's big, he can play LT/RT/OG, he's the most NFL ready, etc..

I say we make sure we get him.. trade down to the mid teens perhaps and pick up an extra second. Then i'd make sure in the second round we get a DL and another OL. There should be plenty available at both positions. Then worry about Safety, either with our third round pick or trade back up into the second if possible to grab Black/Duenta/Moore/Carter.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Yeah.. But Carimi is the absolute perfect fit imo.


Everyone else just makes me want to think more about sliding Free back to RT.


The good thing about Carimi is I think he can play LT too if for some reason Douglas Free decides to flop.


I wouldnt craft our draft around him though. Theres a tier of tackles and hes in it(And not #1 in most of them). Castanzo is somewhat cold right now, thats not a bad pick at 40.


Between Solder, Carimi, Tyson, Castanzo, Sherrod and maybe even Bower one should make it to 40.(Sherrod as a pure LT is going R1)

[RoyTheHammer]

I wouldnt craft our draft around him though. Theres a tier of tackles and hes in it(And not #1 in most of them). Castanzo is somewhat cold right now, thats not a bad pick at 40.


Between Solder, Carimi, Tyson, Castanzo, Sherrod and maybe even Bower one should make it to 40.(Sherrod as a pure LT is going R1)

Bower? You mean Brewer?

I don't think any of those guys makes it to 40, and if one did right now it would most likely be Sherrod. He's disappointing so far.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Bower? You mean Brewer?

I don't think any of those guys makes it to 40, and if one did right now it would most likely be Sherrod. He's disappointing so far.


No, I meant Bowser from Super Mario

[The Realist]

Bowser is made of glass.

Any team that wants him in the first 3 rounds go right ahead.

[CATCH17]

I wouldnt craft our draft around him though. Theres a tier of tackles and hes in it(And not #1 in most of them). Castanzo is somewhat cold right now, thats not a bad pick at 40.


Between Solder, Carimi, Tyson, Castanzo, Sherrod and maybe even Bower one should make it to 40.(Sherrod as a pure LT is going R1)


There is just a lot of good players in this draft so it's hard for me to say what they should do.

Cam Jordon is a heck of a player.

Quinn is a heck of a player

PP scares me some but he will be a awesome return man regardless

Carimi is a starter for the next 10 years for us.


Just soooo many good players in this class.

But of all the guys I can't think of a better day 1 fit than Carimi.

[dallasfaniac]

I was the 1st guy on that waggon.

I don't think that means what you think it means. Just because you first learn about somebody, doesn't mean the whole nation didn't already know about him. Earl Thomas was a standout from the second he stepped on the field and earned a bunch of All-Freshman honors. He wasn't some diamond in the rough from some tiny midwest college where half the guys play both offense and defense, he was on a squad that showed on practically every TV in the nation. Most people had Tyron Smith graded as a 1st rounder long before you 'found' him.

[brooksey1]

Solder is poop, lets move on!

Not really, best tackle in the draft.

[brooksey1]

Nate Solder is in contention for being the best left tackle prospect in the 2011 NFL Draft, but he is not living up to the hype.
He has impressive height and feet but he does not have the athleticism or knee bend that makes him an elite tackle.
He has a chance to go up against the very best this week, but for now I am considering him a very risky prospect.

Where are you getting your information? It's completely wrong, he has great athleticism and knee bend for 6'8. That's why he's rated number 1 right now.

[UnoDallas]

Where are you getting your information? It's completely wrong, he has great athleticism and knee bend for 6'8. That's why he's rated number 1 right now.

Wes Bunting


Solder, I think is really overrated. I haven't been that impressed with him. I don't think he has great range to the edge and you see him consistently doubling over and pushing people past the pocket, but he can get caught with double moves. He takes that big power step off the snap and overextends and opens up the inside door.

All of them could go in the first. Solder could because of his potential. It's rare to find a 6'8'' guy who can move on the edge but I still think he's better suited to play on the right side.

I think Sherrod is the best one down here, even though he has work to do on his punch. He'll get his elbows outside his frame sometimes. Carimi is the 2nd best, Castonzo is the third and Solder is the 4th best by far. I'm not a huge fan.

http://www.cowboysnation.com/2011/01/mobile-diary-wes-bunting-reports-from.html#


Where do you think they start going?

WB: I'd say between picks 13 and 17 is when you'll start to see them go off the board, but once they start they're all gonna go pretty quickly. I think those four guys will all be gone within the next 20-25 picks.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Every report has a different spin. I can understand to an extent but when one report says Locker looks outstanding ad then the other report says he is the least accurate of all the QBs I get confused..it really can't be that hard lol

[UnoDallas]

Every report has a different spin. I can understand to an extent but when one report says Locker looks outstanding ad then the other report says he is the least accurate of all the QBs I get confused..it really can't be that hard lol

I know its almost laughable -

but I am sure they got there favorite guys

the same as any team does

the same as me and you and Catch

[realtick]

Where are you getting your information? It's completely wrong, he has great athleticism and knee bend for 6'8. That's why he's rated number 1 right now.

According to Matt Mayock.

Others have realized he's vastly overrated with some glaring weaknesses.

[realtick]

Wes Bunting


Solder, I think is really overrated. I haven't been that impressed with him. I don't think he has great range to the edge and you see him consistently doubling over and pushing people past the pocket, but he can get caught with double moves. He takes that big power step off the snap and overextends and opens up the inside door.

All of them could go in the first. Solder could because of his potential. It's rare to find a 6'8'' guy who can move on the edge but I still think he's better suited to play on the right side.



I agree 100% with Bunting regarding Solder. Those exactly the same things I've been saying about this kid for the past two months.

[realtick]

Every report has a different spin. I can understand to an extent but when one report says Locker looks outstanding ad then the other report says he is the least accurate of all the QBs I get confused..it really can't be that hard lol

I hear you.

I've really grown to like draftinsiders.net, cbssportsline.com and Wes Bunting.

Really, it's completely subjective. I take what I know, what I've seen and what I think about a specific player and compare it to what different "gurus" and analysts are saying and seeing.

Call it what you want, but if what they're saying jives with what I'm saying, I tend to give them more credence. If there are prospects I'm unfamiliar about, I'll utilize their analysis to get a feel for a player.

Not impressed with Matt "I'm a space alien" Mayock, Rob Rang, Perelloff, and a few others.

[RoyTheHammer]

I hear you.

I've really grown to like draftinsiders.net, cbssportsline.com and Wes Bunting.

Really, it's completely subjective. I take what I know, what I've seen and what I think about a specific player and compare it to what different "gurus" and analysts are saying and seeing.

Call it what you want, but if what they're saying jives with what I'm saying, I tend to give them more credence. If there are prospects I'm unfamiliar about, I'll utilize their analysis to get a feel for a player.

Not impressed with Matt "I'm a space alien" Mayock, Rob Rang, Perelloff, and a few others.

Who's Matt Mayock?



BTW.. Rang has Sherrod as the 6th OL'man taken in the draft. Barely made the first round.

[realtick]

Who's Matt Mayock?



BTW.. Rang has Sherrod as the 6th OL'man taken in the draft. Barely made the first round.

Lol, I don't know why I want to keep calling him "Matt," it's Mike Mayock that's the space alien.

[RoyTheHammer]

Lol, I don't know why I want to keep calling him "Matt," it's Mike Mayock that's the space alien.

Guy loves to hear himself talk, lol.. but he usually is pretty reasonable in most cases.

[28 Joker]

I agree with Bunting. Great stuff again by Veal. I saw Solder get beat inside twice during drills just like he stated. I was impressed with his size. However... There are better options, imo.

Tyron Smith and Derek Sherrod are the two best OTs in this class, imo. I watched Sherrod all year, and he isn't getting the pub that the others are getting. If he played at Florida or Alabama or LSU, you can better believe the national media's spin would be different.

If you want an OT at 9, you better not get cute and trade down, because those top 2 guys are going to be highly coveted. I think there is a gap between the top 2 guys and the others. JMO Teams may be coming up for both of these two guys.

[28 Joker]

Wes Bunting


Solder, I think is really overrated. I haven't been that impressed with him. I don't think he has great range to the edge and you see him consistently doubling over and pushing people past the pocket, but he can get caught with double moves. He takes that big power step off the snap and overextends and opens up the inside door.

All of them could go in the first. Solder could because of his potential. It's rare to find a 6'8'' guy who can move on the edge but I still think he's better suited to play on the right side.

I think Sherrod is the best one down here, even though he has work to do on his punch. He'll get his elbows outside his frame sometimes. Carimi is the 2nd best, Castonzo is the third and Solder is the 4th best by far. I'm not a huge fan.

http://www.cowboysnation.com/2011/01/mobile-diary-wes-bunting-reports-from.html#


Where do you think they start going?

WB: I'd say between picks 13 and 17 is when you'll start to see them go off the board, but once they start they're all gonna go pretty quickly. I think those four guys will all be gone within the next 20-25 picks.


Nice job UnoDallas

Sherrod looked really good at RT today. He took on Von Miller. Sherrod has shown some nastiness in his game this week. He has looked good at both OT spots. Mayock doesn't know what he is talking about. 2nd round...

We will see. Sherrod will not make it to 20.

[CATCH17]

I agree with Bunting. Great stuff again by Veal. I saw Solder get beat inside twice during drills just like he stated. I was impressed with his size. However... There are better options, imo.

Tyron Smith and Derek Sherrod are the two best OTs in this class, imo. I watched Sherrod all year, and he isn't getting the pub that the others are getting. If he played at Florida or Alabama or LSU, you can better believe the national media's spin would be different.

If you want an OT at 9, you better not get cute and trade down, because those top 2 guys are going to be highly coveted. I think there is a gap between the top 2 guys and the others. JMO Teams may be coming up for both of these two guys.

I disagree..

He played in the best conference in College Football so everyone will know his value.

I don't think putting the Bama jersey on would raise his stock and I also think the school he played at gives him an advantage over the other Non-SEC Tackles.

[RoyTheHammer]

I agree with Bunting. Great stuff again by Veal. I saw Solder get beat inside twice during drills just like he stated. I was impressed with his size. However... There are better options, imo.

Tyron Smith and Derek Sherrod are the two best OTs in this class, imo. I watched Sherrod all year, and he isn't getting the pub that the others are getting. If he played at Florida or Alabama or LSU, you can better believe the national media's spin would be different.

If you want an OT at 9, you better not get cute and trade down, because those top 2 guys are going to be highly coveted. I think there is a gap between the top 2 guys and the others. JMO Teams may be coming up for both of these two guys.

Nate Solder went to Colorado, Carimi went to Wisconsin, Costanza went to BC..

These arent top, perennial powerhouse teams either. They're getting more love because they are performing better this week. That's all.

[Chocolate Lab]

Every report has a different spin. I can understand to an extent but when one report says Locker looks outstanding ad then the other report says he is the least accurate of all the QBs I get confused..it really can't be that hard lol

So true. That's why with a million different internet gurus these days it's hard to know what to believe -- you can always find someone who says something positive or negative about a player.

We see it every year even in training camp where a writer from one paper will say a player had a great day at the same time another guy calls him a disappointment. It mainly comes from a player making one great play that gets everyone's attention... Or these guys simply not knowing what they're looking at.

That's why IMO you have to go with a guy who has some decent track record. Seems to me that Rang has been pretty decent, and Mayock, too. I used to think Mayock was way over the top, but IIRC he's been pretty good lately with his calls.

I saw an article on Bunting on another site, and his qualifications as a scout are that he went to some "scouting school" for like 2.5 weeks. Doesn't sound like any kind of expert to me.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Nate Solder went to Colorado, Carimi went to Wisconsin, Costanza went to BC..

These arent top, perennial powerhouse teams either. They're getting more love because they are performing better this week. That's all.

Wisconsin and B.C, whether you consider them power house schools or not, does have (or has had) the reputation of putting out quality O-Linemen.

Now with that being said, it does not mean that everyone coming from there will be great and so on. Just saying that they have had that reputation over the years even if it might not be as current.

[RoyTheHammer]

Wisconsin and B.C, whether you consider them power house schools or not, does have (or has had) the reputation of putting out quality O-Linemen.

Now with that being said, it does not mean that everyone coming from there will be great and so on. Just saying that they have had that reputation over the years even if it might not be as current.

While i understand this, the point i was making was just in response to someone saying that if Sherrod had played for a national powerhouse like Bama, LSU, etc.. he would be getting much more love right now.

I disagree completely, and as someone pointed out, he does play in the SEC and goes up against very good defenses on a consistent basis.

Wisconsin and BC arn't really schools that are always in the hunt, and certainly Colorado isn't, but the fact is Carimi, Solder, and Costanzo have just been performing better this week.

[CATCH17]

Not really, best tackle in the draft.


Solder is going to fall. Watch. He is overrated right now.

[jterrell]

Why would you want both and where do you play them?

I think Sherrod is a day 1 RT. He is big and will get bigger. He can really run block. I watched the practices yesterday and they consistently ended up running behind Sherrod even when the play started to the left side away from him.

I'd play Carimi at RG instead of Bigg Davis. Carimi did look really good to me last night on tape. Playing LT next to his Wisc buddy he was very stout. He didn't look quite as good in one on one drills but they play the game in a front and he was really good there. I'd still like both players because they looked dang good to me. They were the two guys I'd want. I wasn't as big a fan of the Arkansas OL who looked a bit more stiff and out of shape.

I wouldn't rank Solder 1 right now. He has the boom or bust thing going. NFL defenders are insanely strong and I just don't see that guy stuffing bull rushes.

My OT ranking.

1) Sherrod -- highest upside (312 with lean build and massive wingspan) and ability to play either OT spot imho
2) Costanzo -- monster with best collegiate coaching so NFL ready day 1.
3) Carimi -- Big guy with good technique but overall build limits upside imho.
4) Solder -- Hear the Boselli comparisons but that's like saying Ron Dayne could have been Jim Brown. Solder doesn't approach Boselli's raw strength imho.

I really think we win 4 more games last year if we had a decent right side of the OL. Bigg and Columbo weren't below average... they were terrible. In any series of 4 plays it seemed at least one of the two would whiff on a block making it next to impossible to continue drives.

[jterrell]

Nate Solder went to Colorado, Carimi went to Wisconsin, Costanza went to BC..

These arent top, perennial powerhouse teams either. They're getting more love because they are performing better this week. That's all.

What you posted is basically saying, "yea, you are right"....


Wisconsin had a top 10 team this year and the best running game in football.
They called the Wisconsin Head Coach during the coverage of the Senior Bowl to discuss his OL in the game this week.

BC is considered the top OL program in the collegiate ranks. Every year their top player gets drafted in the top 3 rounds: See James Maarten if you doubt they get overrated.

Sherrod went to MSU where they are a bottom of the barrel choice for tv amongst SEC teams. It is a poor and small state. The attention is rather minimal. Michael Oher came out of Ole Miss and if it hadn't been for his family ties and incredible story he would have been overlooked as well. As it was he was drafted a bit low for a day 1 OL starter.

Solder is a pretty boy OL with a 6 pack. He is a tight end basically and teams view his potential but he has not been better than Sherrod this week. Not in the 5 or 6 hours of coverage I have now watched he wasn't. Did he look better in 1 on 1 drills where they both faced a mix of linebackers? Yea. Did he look better in line or against actual NFL ready DL? Nope. not even close.

We'll get another chance to grade them out Saturday.

Right now there isn't a consensus and various scouts grade them differently. Partly, it depends upon which drill you focused most on and partly it depends on which day you chose to zero in on a guy.

If I had only seen day 3, Carimi would be my top guy.

[Chocolate Lab]

I think Sherrod is a day 1 RT. He is big and will get bigger. He can really run block. I watched the practices yesterday and they consistently ended up running behind Sherrod even when the play started to the left side away from him. Very smart guy who has won some scholastic awards, too.

[jterrell]

Very smart guy who has won some scholastic awards, too.

I am certainly drawn in by how he looks a lot like a former #79 at RT for the Cowboys.

MSU averaged about a yard more per carry in 2010 over 2009. They don't have a draftable RB but averaged 4.5 yards per carry. In fact they had no 1000 yard rusher but averaged just under 30 points per game and ran for over 2800 total yards in the SEC. That's where 4 or 5 really nasty, big time DL played.

I believe Sherrod is the best run blocker of the bunch at OT and I like his upside quite a lot.

[acer941]

What you posted is basically saying, "yea, you are right"....


Wisconsin had a top 10 team this year and the best running game in football.
They called the Wisconsin Head Coach during the coverage of the Senior Bowl to discuss his OL in the game this week.

BC is considered the top OL program in the collegiate ranks. Every year their top player gets drafted in the top 3 rounds: See James Maarten if you doubt they get overrated.

Sherrod went to MSU where they are a bottom of the barrel choice for tv amongst SEC teams. It is a poor and small state. The attention is rather minimal. Michael Oher came out of Ole Miss and if it hadn't been for his family ties and incredible story he would have been overlooked as well. As it was he was drafted a bit low for a day 1 OL starter.

Solder is a pretty boy OL with a 6 pack. He is a tight end basically and teams view his potential but he has not been better than Sherrod this week. Not in the 5 or 6 hours of coverage I have now watched he wasn't. Did he look better in 1 on 1 drills where they both faced a mix of linebackers? Yea. Did he look better in line or against actual NFL ready DL? Nope. not even close.

We'll get another chance to grade them out Saturday.

Right now there isn't a consensus and various scouts grade them differently. Partly, it depends upon which drill you focused most on and partly it depends on which day you chose to zero in on a guy.

If I had only seen day 3, Carimi would be my top guy.

When i watched Solder he was outstanding Stoneing Kerrigan and others. He did get beat off the line by Quick D-line. In the Team Drill he looked outstanding walling Defenders off and Running them by the QB.

Carimi did outstanding in the Team Drill but in the 1 on 1s he got beat about 50% of the time. But it was hard to get a judge on him Because most of the time we seen him he was at G, then when they finally moved him to OT the show went to COMMERCIAL!!!!!:bang2:

I don't see what you guys see in Sherrod to be worth the #1 OT Ranking yet alone a First round pick. He got beat Consistently in 1 on 1s, I can see him at the most being a Second Round pick.

Castanzo... I seen nothing to be worth a 1st Round pick.

THIS IS ALL JUDGING OFF OF THE SHORT TIME I SEEN THESE GUYS ON NFLN.
I swear seems like they either go to Commercial or Talk about some Linebacker during the time the O-line go 1 on 1.

[UnoDallas]

Bowser is made of glass.

Any team that wants him in the first 3 rounds go right ahead.


James Brewer (OL Indiana) has been beaten every way possible by just about every North defensive lineman. I've seen him bull-rushed into the passer, run around, crossed over inside, and confused at the second level. He's such a physical specimen and has a perfect frame, but he's not making an immediate impact and shouldn't go anywhere near the draft slot old teammate Rodger Saffold (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5856) did.

Sherrod put Bailey right on the ground with his upper body strength and understanding of playing with leverage. I like that rebound attitude and the mean streak of Sherrod

[jterrell]

When i watched Solder he was outstanding Stoneing Kerrigan and others. He did get beat off the line by Quick D-line. In the Team Drill he looked outstanding walling Defenders off and Running them by the QB.

Carimi did outstanding in the Team Drill but in the 1 on 1s he got beat about 50% of the time. But it was hard to get a judge on him Because most of the time we seen him he was at G, then when they finally moved him to OT the show went to COMMERCIAL!!!!!:bang2:

I don't see what you guys see in Sherrod to be worth the #1 OT Ranking yet alone a First round pick. He got beat Consistently in 1 on 1s, I can see him at the most being a Second Round pick.

Castanzo... I seen nothing to be worth a 1st Round pick.

THIS IS ALL JUDGING OFF OF THE SHORT TIME I SEEN THESE GUYS ON NFLN.
I swear seems like they either go to Commercial or Talk about some Linebacker during the time the O-line go 1 on 1.

I know man, it is frustrating. Not only do they really show half-hearted coverage a lot of the better stuff is in other segments on shows like Road to Primetime or other junk. If I didn't have a second dvr that I can just record on non-stop I'd miss half the stuff. It takes like 3 hours to watch 8 hours of coverage because so much of it is commercials and fluff pieces.

In any series of plays these guys can change your mind. It's crazy. Sherrod looked really slow-footed on day 1 and got caught by the Zona OLB like 3 times in 1 on 1s. But then in team drills he manhandled everyone including Reed and even drove him about 5 yards inside on a run play so that he was sitting on the other OLB.

After watching Carimi in 1 on 1's I woulda sworn he was an OG as he was just so long and upright, but after seeing team portions he looked like a 10 year LT....

I want to see the game and in the end I want to see the Cowboys get an OL or 2.

The only evaluations that ultimately matter are the ones the Cowboys scouts make so I hope they are right.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

DraftCountdown Scott Wright
#Wisconsin OT Gabe Carimi is in a walking boot after getting left ankle rolled. 7-10 day recovery time and won't play in #SeniorBowl game.



Sucks, but I dont think I need to see anymore. I think hes a solid starter from day 1.

[acer941]

DraftCountdown Scott Wright
#Wisconsin OT Gabe Carimi is in a walking boot after getting left ankle rolled. 7-10 day recovery time and won't play in #SeniorBowl game.



Sucks, but I dont think I need to see anymore. I think hes a solid starter from day 1.

WOW Thats sucks i wanted to see him play against some Miller!!!:bang2:

Looks like all EYES will be on Nate Solder!!!

[MarionBarberThe4th]

WOW Thats sucks i wanted to see him play against some Miller!!!:bang2:

Looks like all EYES will be on Nate Solder!!!



Considering his stock and his position I dont think hes a likely target

[CATCH17]

Not really, best tackle in the draft.

Solder is going to fall. Watch. He is overrated right now.

.......

[jterrell]

sb ot game evaluations:

sherrod looked easily the best. he played lt on all 3 south td drives.
he consistently handled his man. run or pass he was a standout. make pierre allen looked terrible and was the only guy who slowed cam jordan.
also handled beal and kerrigan. did see one bad whiff against beal where he attempted to cut beal on a play all the way around the other end. he whiffed but beal never got in on play. on the final td pass beal didn't even attempt a pass rush as sherrod owned him.

watkins looked mightily strong but had 4 or 5 holds that could have been called. i think he is a r3 or r4 guy. Not sure he is a day 1 starter after seeing his actual game play. technique will need some work. he is a good and powerful athlete.

solder showed his athleticism but also showed how to give up a sack. he was bull rushed back and beaten inside early on. i wouldn't touch him in the top 15 but he does have the most upside of anyone.

costanzo looked like james maarten, lol. he was getting beaten as an OG... not good.

all in all the north OTs seemed overrated and were part of why the south won the game. the north qbs were harrassed and they had no running game. they definitely missed carimi and almost to a man they underperformed.

[CATCH17]

Yeah for me Carimi and Sherrod looked the best.

Followed by Brewer then Castonzo and last Solder.


Even James Carpenter looked better than Solder but I think Carpenter is a guard.


Solder was definetely better than Demarcus Love though...