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mrrnr
01-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Local Radio show where I Live http://www.xx1090sandiego.com/

Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton the best 15 Min update in the world of sports reported that The Raiders & The Dallas Cowboys are in talks about a possible sign and Trade deal.

Lee dint mention any Cowboys players, but what comes to my mind would be Marty B or maybe RW.

Anyway,its just what I heard.

Will just wait and see.

Gaede
01-28-2011, 02:53 PM
Interesting...

joseephuss
01-28-2011, 02:53 PM
Isn't he a free agent? If so, then there would be no need to trade for him.

CATCH17
01-28-2011, 02:56 PM
We'll go after him but I still need more credibility than those guys.

Chocolate Lab
01-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Sign and trade? Is this the NBA?

Double Trouble
01-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Audios 1st round pick.

Double Trouble
01-28-2011, 03:00 PM
Sign and trade? Is this the NBA?Can there even be trades? I would assume that any discussions can only be hypothetical.

bbgun
01-28-2011, 03:00 PM
Isn't he a free agent? If so, then there would be no need to trade for him.

True. This isn't a waiver situation where a team with a worse record gets the first crack at him. Just call Al's bluff and wait for him to be released.

Sam I Am
01-28-2011, 03:01 PM
Why in hell would we need Oakland to sign him first?

I call BS.

Gaede
01-28-2011, 03:01 PM
True. This isn't a waiver situation where a team with a worse record gets the first crack at him. Just call Al's bluff and wait for him to be released.

Jerry's not exactly the best poker player,

http://theredzonereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/roy_williams_wr.jpg

diehard2294
01-28-2011, 03:02 PM
here comes the rumor thread title;)

CATCH17
01-28-2011, 03:02 PM
True. This isn't a waiver situation where a team with a worse record gets the first crack at him. Just call Al's bluff and wait for him to be released.

He is already a Free Agent I believe.

laythewood28
01-28-2011, 03:04 PM
I thought players weren't allowed to be traded due to no cba in place?

GloryDaysRBack
01-28-2011, 03:04 PM
Trades can't even be made. This is BS..

Sam I Am
01-28-2011, 03:04 PM
He is already a Free Agent I believe.

Well, he *will* be. I don't think anyone is an actually free agent just yet.

bbgun
01-28-2011, 03:05 PM
He is already a Free Agent I believe.

:confused:

He is? So why would we have to give Al anything?

ThreeSportStar80
01-28-2011, 03:06 PM
:laugh2: Yeah right... I'll believe it when I see it.

romo2to
01-28-2011, 03:08 PM
If they want the #9 pick and RW, they can have both.

Prince and/or Patrick aren't going to be there anyway, and we'll be stretching for a offensive linemen that early.

Zaxor
01-28-2011, 03:10 PM
something smells fishy and it isn't the tuna...


shaddup:)

CATCH17
01-28-2011, 03:10 PM
:confused:

He is? So why would we have to give Al anything?

Yeah that's why I call bs.

Sign and trade? Yeah right.

Not unless there is some way to help both teams caps + why would Asomugha sign without testing the market.


Bunch of blah IMO.


But! We will throw our name in the pot for him at some point.

mrrnr
01-28-2011, 03:16 PM
Why in hell would we need Oakland to sign him first?

I call BS.

Oakland would need to do this to get something for him.

The Stupid Raiders put a a clause written in the contract for him to be a free agent.

So now this would be a smart move for the Raiders to get something for him as well as the Cowbosy to free up monies to get him.

Got IT!!!

laythewood28
01-28-2011, 03:17 PM
Audios 1st round pick.

Would be a dumb move. Give them the second at best.

jterrell
01-28-2011, 03:18 PM
Yeah that's why I call bs.

Sign and trade? Yeah right.

Not unless there is some way to help both teams caps + why would Asomugha sign without testing the market.


Bunch of blah IMO.


But! We will throw our name in the pot for him at some point.

I think this is nuts too and I pretty much an openly in manlove with NA.

The only advantage would be to circumvent a coming cap as it is expected that any deals will get frozen unless done before the start of the new season. A trade could be completed now.

NA would be open to doing it if the money is right because he gets a fat check I am guessing that doesn't mean waiting out the CBA. He definitely wouldn't do it for free.

I will say Al Davis and Jerry Jones are buddies. They have a special kind of crazy czar bond.

LatinMind
01-28-2011, 03:22 PM
First of all he isnt a FA just yet. The season isnt over yet. UNtil after the superbowl. The Raiders arent going to pick up his option Mar 3. Which will make him a FA on the day is option is to be picked up. And yes the Cowboys and Raiders can be talking about a trade for him. It just cant be done until the end of the superbowl and until the day the option is due to be picked up.

I think you people are the ones jumping the gun. The trade can be worked out and have it completed after the superbowl. Because he wont be a FA until March

Sam I Am
01-28-2011, 03:22 PM
Oakland would need to do this to get something for him.

The Stupid Raiders put a a clause written in the contract for him to be a free agent.

So now this would be a smart move for the Raiders to get something for him as well as the Cowbosy to free up monies to get him.

Got IT!!!

The clause is triggered. He will be a FA. If the Cowboys trade for him, he will still be a FA. Why would he re-sign without even testing FA? Why wouldn't the Cowboys just wait for him to be a FA and then just sign him then without giving up anything in trade?

It makes ZERO sense. It's BS.

speedkilz88
01-28-2011, 03:23 PM
Would be a dumb move. Give them the second at best.The raiders can't stop him from leaving (they gave him complete freedom in his contract) so even if they could get a trade agreed on between the Cowboys and Asomugha there is no way they would get much for him.

MonsterD
01-28-2011, 03:23 PM
:duck:

Sam I Am
01-28-2011, 03:24 PM
The raiders can't stop him from leaving (they gave him complete freedom in his contract) so even if they could get a trade agreed on between the Cowboys and Asomugha there is no way they would get much for him.

A team would be a fool to trade for a guy who is going to be a FA.

CATCH17
01-28-2011, 03:26 PM
A team would be a fool to trade for a guy who is going to be a FA.

Unless there is some kind of weird salary dump that we don't know about that can be done.

bbgun
01-28-2011, 03:26 PM
A team would be a fool to trade for a guy who is going to be a FA.

Or guys likely to be cut, like Greg Ellis.

speedkilz88
01-28-2011, 03:26 PM
A team would be a fool to trade for a guy who is going to be a FA.The only reason would be to avoid a bidding war. Giving up a player they don't really value highly would be the kind of compensation that would make sense in the scenario. But I agree that it sounds like complete B.S.

bbgun
01-28-2011, 03:28 PM
The only reason would be to avoid a bidding war. Giving up a player they don't really value highly would be the kind of compensation that would make sense in the scenario. But I agree that it sounds like complete B.S.

Why would Asomugha want to miss out on a bidding war?

LatinMind
01-28-2011, 03:30 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing dallas and raiders swapping 30something cbs.

Sam I Am
01-28-2011, 03:33 PM
Or guys likely to be cut, like Greg Ellis.

Well, likely to be cut is actually a different story. This way you get the player and he is still under contract. When I guy is going to be a FA no matter what, that doesn't make any logical sense.

Well, unless you are wanting to dump salary, and the other team wants those players. You take an expiring contract to clear the salary and the other team gets players it wants.

Sam I Am
01-28-2011, 03:35 PM
The only reason would be to avoid a bidding war. Giving up a player they don't really value highly would be the kind of compensation that would make sense in the scenario. But I agree that it sounds like complete B.S.

Hell, he wants a bidding war. Why would he resign before the bidding war happen unless he wanted to come to Dallas no matter what.

jterrell
01-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Hell, he wants a bidding war. Why would he resign before the bidding war happen unless he wanted to come to Dallas no matter what.

money.

if he waits until march he could be waiting a good while and have zero checks coming in.

if we agreed to pay him and extend him he gets his money(i.e.the big upfront check) and sits out any labor unrest in the bahamas sipping mai tai's worry free.

we also know he wants to play in a 3-4 and wouldn't mind playing for a ryan.

it is still probably nuts but its a rumor because there is some weird possibility.

the pff.com guys asked by bob sturm how you fix this team said coverage help, a RT and more coverage help....

Mr Cowboy
01-28-2011, 03:41 PM
Assuming rules similar to the ones in the last CBA, if Oakland signed him to a contract like the one he is going to demand, then trade him, the bonus money will accelerate, (all $15-19 million of it), to next years salary cap.

Now we all know Al is dumb, but come on, even Al isn't this dumb. This trade makes absolutley no sense.

Furthermore, if Jerry really wanted Nnamdi, he could get him without Al meddling in the deal.

jimnabby
01-28-2011, 03:48 PM
Let's see. No trades can happen now. No free agents can be signed now. Yeah, this rumor seems realistic.

bsheeern
01-28-2011, 03:52 PM
He isn't a free agent. No one is because free agency hasn't begun. He is still under contract with the raiders until atleast End of the season/march 3(beginning if FA). Any team interested in signing him as a FA would be very smart to kick the tires on a sign and trade deal. For one you are signing him to an extention based on this CBA agreement which might be better than the next one. Espcially if there is a grandfather clause that pertains to players contracts signed before the new CBA. Second, you let the guy hit the FA market and you are Going into a biddin war with teams like Washington who will drastically bump up the price if for no other reason other than to stop him from coming to Dallas. Third, if he wants to goto a particular team but doesnt want to gamble on the new CBA being better for the players then this is a smart move on his part if the ingredients match.

jterrell
01-28-2011, 03:56 PM
Assuming rules similar to the ones in the last CBA, if Oakland signed him to a contract like the one he is going to demand, then trade him, the bonus money will accelerate, (all $15-19 million of it), to next years salary cap.

Now we all know Al is dumb, but come on, even Al isn't this dumb. This trade makes absolutely no sense.

Furthermore, if Jerry really wanted Nnamdi, he could get him without Al meddling in the deal.

Not true. If signed in that window between March and the SB his acceleration counts against this years cap... which doesn't exist.

Still probably lunacy as it is a huge commitment by both Dallas and NA but financially it should work out to avoid the big cap hits. Dallas would likely toss guys like RW11/TNew back at Oakland who gets two solid players that they can use without eating any big signing bonuses. Oakland has had really poor luck drafting so grabbing proven vets may appeal to them.

Dallas has 3 or 4 solid vets who are merely overpaid for their roles here.

AbeBeta
01-28-2011, 04:02 PM
Not true. If signed in that window between March and the SB his acceleration counts against this years cap... which doesn't exist.


Of course, if it is "sign and trade" wouldn't the Raiders be the team on the hook for his signing bonus?

LatinMind
01-28-2011, 04:04 PM
Not true. If signed in that window between March and the SB his acceleration counts against this years cap... which doesn't exist.

Still probably lunacy as it is a huge commitment by both Dallas and NA but financially it should work out to avoid the big cap hits. Dallas would likely toss guys like RW11/TNew back at Oakland who gets two solid players that they can use without eating any big signing bonuses. Oakland has had really poor luck drafting so grabbing proven vets may appeal to them.

Dallas has 3 or 4 solid vets who are merely overpaid for their roles here.
:write: hope people are taking notes

bbgun
01-28-2011, 04:04 PM
And whose job would he take? I'm not so sure it would be Newman's.

LatinMind
01-28-2011, 04:06 PM
And whose job would he take? I'm not so sure it would be Newman's.

whichever cb they would send if one was sent. Or pick one, asomugha is better then both newman and jenkins

Fletch
01-28-2011, 04:09 PM
I would love Nnamdi. Who wouldn't? Rob trusts him and we all know he is arguably one of the very best CB's with several years left in the tank. He could be our version of Champ or Charles Woodson who just seem to get better with age.

speedkilz88
01-28-2011, 04:10 PM
Hell, he wants a bidding war. Why would he resign before the bidding war happen unless he wanted to come to Dallas no matter what.I was replying to your question on why a "team" would be that stupid. Of course the player would want a bidding war. If this were true the one thought why he would do it if he really wants to play for Ryan and if a trade could go through (which it can't) he could get his signing bonus before the lockout.

ThreeandOut
01-28-2011, 04:14 PM
Sign and trade? Is this the NBA?

This will be part of a multi-team deal that sends Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks.

SnakePliskin
01-28-2011, 04:21 PM
This will be part of a multi-team deal that sends Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks.
That's funny!

yimyammer
01-28-2011, 04:29 PM
Jerry's not exactly the best poker player,

http://theredzonereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/roy_williams_wr.jpg

No ****, hold your powder Jerry, no need to give up picks AGAIN

MonsterD
01-28-2011, 04:30 PM
Let's see. No trades can happen now. No free agents can be signed now. Yeah, this rumor seems realistic.


:hammer:

bbgun
01-28-2011, 04:30 PM
No ****, hold your powder Jerry, no need to give up picks AGAIN

No one said it involved picks. At least I hope not, assuming the rumor is true.

kevinhickey
01-28-2011, 04:34 PM
Come on guys! I don't believe this for one minute. We are not allowed to trade players until this CBA situation gets resolved. We are not allowed to trade players for draft picks and vis versa.

yimyammer
01-28-2011, 04:34 PM
No one said it involved picks. At least I hope not, assuming the rumor is true.

Oops, my bad then, I thought I read picks were involved

JohnsKey19
01-28-2011, 04:51 PM
Let's play along assuming the new CBA is in place and trades/signings can be discussed and completed. If we want Nnamdi and/or he really wants to come here, we'll outright sign him. Period. There's no reason to complete some complicated sign and trade deal. Besides we don't have tradeable assets that are desireable by other tams AND viewed as expendable by the Cowboys. People say we may trade Choice but I find that hard to believe with Barber on his way out. players like Newman and Roy W would have to agree to restructured deals before Oakland or Team XYZ accepts them in a trade. Why would they agree?

I actually do believe we'll do something at CB in free agency. Not certain its Nnamdi but I do think we'll target a good player there and get one. I know what Jerry said but its still only January and he has no reason to be honest right now concerning possible roster moves.

Romo 2 Austin
01-28-2011, 04:51 PM
That'd be epic, id loev to have Nnamdi on the roster.

MarionBarberThe4th
01-28-2011, 04:59 PM
Maybe trading a Newman or a Roy would lessen a cap hit than cutting them. Only way this makes sense

AbeBeta
01-28-2011, 05:33 PM
Maybe trading a Newman or a Roy would lessen a cap hit than cutting them. Only way this makes sense

it wouldn't

dbair1967
01-28-2011, 05:39 PM
This thread should be closed...its total b/s

COWBOYSNUM1
01-28-2011, 05:57 PM
The radio host was discussing rumors that wouldn't go away. This is his quote about the Cowboys.

"The Dallas Cowboys have approached the Raiders about the potential of something like a sign and trade that MIGHT involve Nnamdi Asomugha."

Here is a link to the audio. He starts discussing this and other things football related about halfway through the podcast.

http://www.xx1090sandiego.com/common/global_audio/40/26240.mp3

Phrozen Phil
01-28-2011, 06:03 PM
This thread should be closed...its total b/s

I'm thinking along the same lines. It makes no sense.:confused:

ThreeSportStar80
01-28-2011, 06:08 PM
Considering Rob Ryan coached Nnamdi in Oakland it wouldn't completely shock me but I seriously doubt it....

Beast_from_East
01-28-2011, 06:14 PM
The radio host was discussing rumors that wouldn't go away. This is his quote about the Cowboys.

"The Dallas Cowboys have approached the Raiders about the potential of something like a sign and trade that MIGHT involve Nnamdi Asomugha."

Here is a link to the audio. He starts discussing this and other things football related about halfway through the podcast.

http://www.xx1090sandiego.com/common/global_audio/40/26240.mp3

They are just throwing crap against the wall, it is total BS. First of all, there can be no contract signings, no trades, no nothing until a new CBA is in place. Secondly, the Raiders have already voided Asomaga's contract so he becomes and UFA once the new season starts (which will be after the new CBA is agreed to).

skinsscalper
01-28-2011, 06:14 PM
First of all, the trade deadline for this season has passed. The new league year doesn't start until March.

There is no CBA in place, making trades or signings (other than extending your own players) can't/won't happen.

NA has VOIDED HIS CONTRACT making him a FA. There is no need trade for him in a sign and trade deal (he's a FA!). It doesn't benefit NA in any way. He's better off being the object of a bidding war.

It doesn't make sense for Jerry either. Even if RW and Newman were part of the deal, the cap hit (yes, there will be one) won't be any less in a trade than it will be in an outright release. Hence, if Jerry is clearing out room to sign NA it would be just as easy to release those two players as it would in a trade.

NA isn't going to give the Cowboys or the Raiders any type of discount.

This entire "rumor" is a steaming pile of crap from the word go.

COWBOYSNUM1
01-28-2011, 06:19 PM
They are just throwing crap against the wall, it is total BS. First of all, there can be no contract signings, no trades, no nothing until a new CBA is in place. Secondly, the Raiders have already voided Asomaga's contract so he becomes and UFA once the new season starts (which will be after the new CBA is agreed to).
I know :laugh2:

He will hit the open market and will get a huge deal, just not from the Cowboys, IMO

Beast_from_East
01-28-2011, 06:36 PM
I know :laugh2:

He will hit the open market and will get a huge deal, just not from the Cowboys, IMO

Yea, as much as I would love to have him, I dont see Dallas throwing that type of coin at him.

Now Danny Snyder, thats another story.:lmao2:

sonnyboy
01-28-2011, 06:53 PM
First of all, the trade deadline for this season has passed. The new league year doesn't start until March.

There is no CBA in place, making trades or signings (other than extending your own players) can't/won't happen.

NA has VOIDED HIS CONTRACT making him a FA. There is no need trade for him in a sign and trade deal (he's a FA!). It doesn't benefit NA in any way. He's better off being the object of a bidding war.

It doesn't make sense for Jerry either. Even if RW and Newman were part of the deal, the cap hit (yes, there will be one) won't be any less in a trade than it will be in an outright release. Hence, if Jerry is clearing out room to sign NA it would be just as easy to release those two players as it would in a trade.

NA isn't going to give the Cowboys or the Raiders any type of discount.

This entire "rumor" is a steaming pile of crap from the word go.


Why not and how would you know one way or another?

I can see him wanting to come to Dallas. Premier franchise, gets to play for Ryan again.

Can't say what kind of discount that would be worth to him, if any.


Not that I know much about Asomugha, but I have heard he's a high character guy.

Perhaps the coach, city and opportunity to win mean more to him than most players.

Randy White
01-28-2011, 06:58 PM
First of all he isnt a FA just yet. The season isnt over yet. UNtil after the superbowl.


Yea, but guess what ? The trade deadline is still in effect and once the season is over, the opening for trades and free agents don't happen until the new fiscal season begins.

and that new fiscal season won't begin until there's a CBA in place.


This is one of the DUMBEST things ever put out there by the media. Hacksaw's name fits perfectly, particularly the first 4 letters.

burmafrd
01-28-2011, 07:04 PM
Actually he made plenty already. I would guess that now he wants a ring. He would be willing to take less for a team that he thinks will get him one.

Randy White
01-28-2011, 07:12 PM
If the lockout is implemented by the owners, there can be no player movement — no signings or trades. Players can't have contact with their teams and will have to work out and practice on their own.

There will be a draft because rookies don't become members of the union until they sign.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7371555.html



and like in every year, once again, the free agency and trading period does NOT open until the new fiscal year starts and there will not be one until a new CBA is signed.

So forget about any trades, forget about any signings. They can talk about it all they want and come to any agreements they want ( which in this case is useless because the guy WILL become a free agent ) but it won't be official. They can't even trade players for draft picks.

mrrnr
01-28-2011, 07:16 PM
The radio host was discussing rumors that wouldn't go away. This is his quote about the Cowboys.

"The Dallas Cowboys have approached the Raiders about the potential of something like a sign and trade that MIGHT involve Nnamdi Asomugha."

Here is a link to the audio. He starts discussing this and other things football related about halfway through the podcast.

http://www.xx1090sandiego.com/common/global_audio/40/26240.mp3

Thx NUM1 for the MP3,I'm the original poster who started this thread..

I just reported of what I heard,that's all and now this thread is going all different directions.... WOW.... I dont know about this place sometimes.

Great Find.. NUM1

mrrnr
01-28-2011, 07:29 PM
They are just throwing crap against the wall, it is total BS. First of all, there can be no contract signings, no trades, no nothing until a new CBA is in place. Secondly, the Raiders have already voided Asomaga's contract so he becomes and UFA once the new season starts (which will be after the new CBA is agreed to).

No Kidding:banghead:Raiders can re-sign him to the old CBA agrement before March ... and Aso would probally get a better deal under the old CBA.

Man do we have GM's here are what.

Hey let everything plan out and how about some WE CAN DO Attitude.

Its allways Here...We Cant Do This or We Cant Do That...

Stupid... Stupid... Stupid:bang2:

jnday
01-28-2011, 07:44 PM
This thread should be closed...its total b/s

Don`t be a killjoy. This should be fun to see how far this might go.:laugh2:

hornitosmonster
01-28-2011, 07:46 PM
More media BS.

We are not trading Dez
We are not trading for Fitz
We are not trading for Nnamdi (I said trade for)
The Cards are not getting Lebeau as their DC
The Eagles are not getting Fisher as their DC
Jay Cutler is not getting a sex change operation

Just stop...

Suave
01-28-2011, 07:54 PM
A team would be a fool to trade for a guy who is going to be a FA.


Interesting assessment.

Didn't Dallas do this very thing when they traded for Kitna? Wasn't there a very good chance that Kitna was going to be released by the Lions anyway?

skinsscalper
01-28-2011, 08:15 PM
Why not and how would you know one way or another?

I can see him wanting to come to Dallas. Premier franchise, gets to play for Ryan again.

Can't say what kind of discount that would be worth to him, if any.


Not that I know much about Asomugha, but I have heard he's a high character guy.

Perhaps the coach, city and opportunity to win mean more to him than most players.

The same premier franchise that just went 6-10? You mean that "premier" franchise?

Dallas fans hold this team in much higher regard than anyone around the league, both professionally and fan wide. The ONLY thing premier about this franchise is it's history. There's been nothing premier about this team for the better part of the last decade and a half. So, sell me (or NA for that matter) on this premier franchise you speak of because for anyone with a set of eyes that aren't blinded by the sickest form of homerism, there's very little about this franchise that is premier (sans a shiny new building).

That said, the Eagles have been rumored to be very interested in NA. They just happened to win the NFC East and have one of the most dynamic QBs in the league and a top CB opposite in Samuels. Other than the Ryan connection, what exactly would be more appealing to NA about Dallas than Philly. That top notch defense that we fielded?

That's exactly why I feel that NA won't give Dallas or Oakland any discount. He can still get signed by a winner (whether it's Philly or not) and not have to give up a nickel at the bargaining table. It's not as if Dallas is his best shot at a championship, at this point. Even a blind man can see that.

hornitosmonster
01-28-2011, 08:21 PM
Add another log to the fire. Rob Ryan is going to Tennessee


Not...

mrrnr
01-28-2011, 08:31 PM
The same premier franchise that just went 6-10? You mean that "premier" franchise?

Dallas fans hold this team in much higher regard than anyone around the league, both professionally and fan wide. The ONLY thing premier about this franchise is it's history. There's been nothing premier about this team for the better part of the last decade and a half. So, sell me (or NA for that matter) on this premier franchise you speak of because for anyone with a set of eyes that aren't blinded by the sickest form of homerism, there's very little about this franchise that is premier (sans a shiny new building).

That said, the Eagles have been rumored to be very interested in NA. They just happened to win the NFC East and have one of the most dynamic QBs in the league and a top CB opposite in Samuels. Other than the Ryan connection, what exactly would be more appealing to NA about Dallas than Philly. That top notch defense that we fielded?

That's exactly why I feel that NA won't give Dallas or Oakland any discount. He can still get signed by a winner (whether it's Philly or not) and not have to give up a nickel at the bargaining table. It's not as if Dallas is his best shot at a championship, at this point. Even a blind man can see that.

What do you mean, The only thing premier about
this franchise is it's history. There's been nothing premier about this team for the better part of the last decade.

Sorry, However this DC franchise has been premier as Mcdonald's has always been.

The Team on the field the last 10 years is a differnt story as it with those
Big Mac's.

The Dallas Cowboys Org is allways and will allways be a Premier Franchise...
Get It...:bang2:

RS12
01-28-2011, 09:47 PM
Hacksaw reknowned for making up stories.

Chris in Arizona
01-28-2011, 10:42 PM
Hacksaw reknowned for making up stories.

Listened to Hacksaw for many years when he was the only thing on in So Cal. He likes to throw things out there.

Future
01-28-2011, 11:05 PM
I would only make a trade that includes Newman/Jenkins/Scandrick if it means we still keep the #9 and get Prince. Otherwise we will still have the same depth issues we always have and will have to get another corner anyways.

BraveHeartFan
01-29-2011, 12:54 AM
Wow they come up with some wild stories where it involves the Cowboys and any big name player.

sago1
01-29-2011, 07:21 AM
The clause in his contract is triggered as soon as season is over which ends immediately after SB. Clause was unique & nothing to do with other FA requirements, etc. But he can't or won't be traded until CBA has been signed unless the 2 teams working out something unique.

Unless rumor specifically talking about him, do wonder if it has somethin to do with the draft. Maybe both teams working out a deal for Raiders to trade up for our 9th pick & we get their pick, somewhere around the 16th but also their 2nd rounder. Raiders could be looking to move up to acquire best young QB who available. That makes lot more sense then trading their CB.

If we get Raiders pick, we could use that to draft BPA at OT cause around 16th is where OTs might start coming off the board. Then, with our pick in 2nd round we grab the best FS on the board cause top of 2nd round is where they will start coming off. Late second round, Raider pick, we grab either BPA at either C/OG, DL or CB. That would allow us to address the 2 other top needs in 3rd & 4th rounds. Not ruling out that we could draft the BPA should a top player somehow slide to us just like Dez did.

I just don't want to use our top first rounder to acquire Raiders' CB; doesn't make sense.

Sam I Am
01-29-2011, 07:26 AM
I just don't want to use our top first rounder to acquire Raiders' CB; doesn't make sense.

Especially a 30 year old CB.

burmafrd
01-29-2011, 08:01 AM
As much as he will cost no way. Now if he was around 28 its a thought. Not at 30.

Beast_from_East
01-29-2011, 08:05 AM
No Kidding:banghead:Raiders can re-sign him to the old CBA agrement before March ... and Aso would probally get a better deal under the old CBA.

Man do we have GM's here are what.

Hey let everything plan out and how about some WE CAN DO Attitude.

Its allways Here...We Cant Do This or We Cant Do That...

Stupid... Stupid... Stupid:bang2:
Some of us choose to live in the world with the blue sky.


Why would Asomogah sign a contract when he would be an UFA the second a new CBA is signed. Being on the open market would be way more profitable than resigning with the Raiders.............answer is he wouldnt.

Why would Dallas trade players or picks when they could sign him without giving up any compensation at all...........answer is they wouldnt.

Why would the Raiders sign him to a new contract when they could not trade him until a new CBA is agreed to since we are past the trade deadline of the current NFL year. A new CBA will include a cap, so trading a player that you just gave a new contract to would accelerate the signing bonus aginst your cap. Why would the Raiders take a huge cap hit....answer is they wouldnt.


See, there is a difference between being a "negative nancy" and accepting the reality of the situation.

Cowboys2008
01-31-2011, 10:26 AM
The same premier franchise that just went 6-10? You mean that "premier" franchise?

Dallas fans hold this team in much higher regard than anyone around the league, both professionally and fan wide. The ONLY thing premier about this franchise is it's history. There's been nothing premier about this team for the better part of the last decade and a half. So, sell me (or NA for that matter) on this premier franchise you speak of because for anyone with a set of eyes that aren't blinded by the sickest form of homerism, there's very little about this franchise that is premier (sans a shiny new building).

That said, the Eagles have been rumored to be very interested in NA. They just happened to win the NFC East and have one of the most dynamic QBs in the league and a top CB opposite in Samuels. Other than the Ryan connection, what exactly would be more appealing to NA about Dallas than Philly. That top notch defense that we fielded?

That's exactly why I feel that NA won't give Dallas or Oakland any discount. He can still get signed by a winner (whether it's Philly or not) and not have to give up a nickel at the bargaining table. It's not as if Dallas is his best shot at a championship, at this point. Even a blind man can see that.

All the nonsense in this thread i still couldn't bring myself to stop reading.........until this post. The Eagles are a "premier" franchsise?

Huh.

And because of their premier QB and CB, and that mere NFC East win. You are SO on the wrong board. WOO GO EAGLES

lmfao omg ive been shot in the eyes by stupid.