Trading Up & Trading Down

[Hostile]

I am curious about this. Two part question.

1. How far would you trade up to get the player you want?

2. How far would you trade down to stockpile picks before you felt it was too far down to go?

[SDogo]

I am curious about this. Two part question.

1. How far would you trade up to get the player you want?

2. How far would you trade down to stockpile picks before you felt it was too far down to go?


1. This is totally a value thing and what I think may not be what the Cowboys feel but looking at this years class I dont think I would pull the trigger unless the player I want drops to 5. Price will probably be to expensive before that.

2. Unless your dealing with the Patriots and getting both number 1 picks out of the deal I'm trying to stay in the top 20.

The draft board is fluid, this could all change in the coming weeks but as of right now with the players I would target those are the standards I would set for myself.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Depends on players, I really want a CB. I'd go to #5/#6 for Peterson, down to around #17/#18 for Brandon Harris.

[Joe Rod]

I am curious about this. Two part question.

1. How far would you trade up to get the player you want?

2. How far would you trade down to stockpile picks before you felt it was too far down to go?

As it pertains to this draft and this draft alone, if Cam Jordan, Robert Quinn, Peterson and Amukamara are all gone, I would honestly try to trade down to the low 20 range and see if I could get Gabe Carimi (RT). Then use the extra ammo to get Steve Wisiewski (C/G) and Rahim Moore (FS) in the second round.

That's just me, though.

[CATCH17]

I wouldn't trade up in this draft as of today.

There is just no one I have to have.


I would go down as far as 15.

I think the value in this draft is going to be between 15 all the way until about the 15th pick in the 2nd round.

[The Realist]

I am curious about this. Two part question.

1. How far would you trade up to get the player you want?

2. How far would you trade down to stockpile picks before you felt it was too far down to go?

I really don't care how far we trade down in one as long as we are collecting extra 2's, 3's, 4's or a future 1. I'm all for collecting next year 2's and 3's as well.

I'm all for multiple trade downs in 1 as well to stockpile picks. If we identify as guy as our target and his value is 25-30. I have no problem trading down a couple times to get there.

As far as trading up goes, I don't think I would give up more than a 3 to get up to get a guy like Peterson. We need pick #40 bad.

[Hostile]

1. This is totally a value thing and what I think may not be what the Cowboys feel but looking at this years class I dont think I would pull the trigger unless the player I want drops to 5. Price will probably be to expensive before that.

2. Unless your dealing with the Patriots and getting both number 1 picks out of the deal I'm trying to stay in the top 20.

The draft board is fluid, this could all change in the coming weeks but as of right now with the players I would target those are the standards I would set for myself.This is exactly my thoughts on both options.

[Dash28]

1. 6th
2. 18-20

[cowboyjoe]

I will chime in with my 2 cents worth;

I wouldnt trade up past the 5th pick in first round, cost too much,
using draft trade value chart,
with cowboys pick at 9 1350 points and pick 5 is valued at 1700 pts

that would be worth a 3rd rounder, i could live with that, but not anymore
remember we did that moving up to get dez bryant

and would have to be a good player there like a patrick peterson or frailey dt

now far as moving down

i wouldnt move past below the 17th pick

i did a post awhile back, about some impact players, and most of them that fell in the draft were still picked with the 15th to 18th pick

now, saying that, i would do this, if players you wanted are not there at 9th pick but say this

redskins, vikings and miami call you up and they want your pick to get a QB, cam newton or the qb from missori or locker

you could trade down to the 10th, 12th or 15th pick,
you should be able to get value listed below to 10th
10th trade down 5th rounder
12th trade down 4th rounder and possibly a 7th thrown in to jump ahead skins
15th pick trade down 3rd rounder
or if patriots call to move up from 17th pick,
i would like sdogo either claim their 2 number one picks or their 17th, their 2nd rounder at top of 2nd round and a 4th rounder for moving that far down, the patriots may want a QB too or the alabama rb

or i would do this if patriots calling,
i get their 17th, logan mankins OG and a 4th rounder
make the patriots bleed alittle for making trade with you

but i would stay above the 19th pick, not any lower than 18th for sure, and you should be able to get one of the Big OTs, or possibly brandon harris cb

[Woods]

1. I would not trade up for any player in this Draft (and that's probably an unpopular view).

2. If we got value for moving down, I'd be happy trading down to the mid-20s. I think we could still get some good players there, including Carimi, F Taylor (even at the high 20s/very early 2nd), possibily Ingram, etc.

I'd guess JJ's preference would be to trade down slightly (maybe mid-teens) and try and pick up another 2nd or 3rd rounder, if possible.

[Joe Rod]

1. I would not trade up for any player in this Draft (and that's probably an unpopular view).

2. If we got value for moving down, I'd be happy trading down to the mid-20s. I think we could still get some good players there, including Carimi, F Taylor (even at the high 20s/very early 2nd), possibily Ingram, etc.

I'd guess JJ's preference would be to trade down slightly (maybe mid-teens) and try and pick up another 2nd or 3rd rounder, if possible.

Yep, I guess I forgot to add that to my previous post. Stay put or trade down.

[Bigdog]

I would not trade up for any player in the draft. I would trade down if the player that we want is not there. I would trade with the Pats if they are willing. I would trade our 9th for there 17th and 33rd. I do not know what the point value is but I am very greedy if we are trading out of the top 10. I do not expect us to be here for a while.

[dallasfaniac]

I don't really want to trade up for anyone because the price would be too great. I wouldn't mind trading down to say 14-16 range for next years 1st or a team like San Diego for their 2nd and 3rd for our 1st and 4th. I just feel we'll miss out on the top prospects and would best be served grabbing a player in the teens with similar skills as one at #9 but at a much better value.

[Sam I Am]

I am curious about this. Two part question.

1. How far would you trade up to get the player you want?

2. How far would you trade down to stockpile picks before you felt it was too far down to go?

Depends on the player how far I trade up.

As for trading down to stockpile, I would never do that. I only trade down if I don't think I'm getting value at my current position in the draft.

IMO, trading to with the purpose of stockpiling picks is an extremely dumb thing to do unless the talent level in the draft is so deep that it's worth doing and that is pretty much NEVER the case. (increasing the value you get by trading down) What I mean is, concentrated value, is far better than watered down value. (ie one player with a 1k value is infinitely better than two players with a 500 value)

[The Realist]

Depends on the player how far I trade up.

As for trading down to stockpile, I would never do that. I only trade down if I don't think I'm getting value at my current position in the draft.

IMO, trading to with the purpose of stockpiling picks is an extremely dumb thing to do unless the talent level in the draft is so deep that it's worth doing and that is pretty much NEVER the case. (increasing the value you get by trading down) What I mean is, concentrated value, is far better than watered down value. (ie one player with a 1k value is infinitely better than two players with a 500 value)

Yep, the rest of the NFL has been destroying BB and the Pats by letting them load up on all those picks.

[blindzebra]

I don't want to trade up with this year's picks. With no CBA or FA possible before the draft picks will be too important.

I'd go up to 5 if they'd take a 2nd next year.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I don't want to trade up with this year's picks. With no CBA or FA possible before the draft picks will be too important.

I'd go up to 5 if they'd take a 2nd next year.
Which is why i'd love to trade down and get alot of picks next year, teams will be more willing to part with next years 2nd and 3rd rounders while valuing this years picks higher.

[blindzebra]

Which is why i'd love to trade down and get alot of picks next year, teams will be more willing to part with next years 2nd and 3rd rounders while valuing this years picks higher.

That is fine if you don't have any glaring needs, but we do so we need those picks this year.

[Sam I Am]

Yep, the rest of the NFL has been destroying BB and the Pats by letting them load up on all those picks.

They were not trying to stockpile picks, they didn't think they were getting value at their current slot, so they traded down.

Look at this year. They have so many stockpiled picks that they have to get rid of some or lose the value they do have. They have more draft picks than they have roster spots. A damn good reason not to trade down only to stockpile.

[Romo 2 Austin]

That is fine if you don't have any glaring needs, but we do so we need those picks this year.
We are 6-10 with a first year head coach, I pray we can satisfy all those needs this offseason but it is doubtful, an extra 2nd and 3rd next year would help a ton in rebuilding the team. If you traded down from 9 to say 18, a 3rd this year, 2nd & 3rd next year. sounds good to me.

[The Realist]

They were not trying to stockpile picks, they didn't think they were getting value at their current slot, so they traded down.

Look at this year. They have so many stockpiled picks that they have to get rid of some or lose the value they do have. They have more draft picks than they have roster spots. A damn good reason not to trade down only to stockpile.

You're right. I'm sure they are kicking themselves for acquiring all those picks.

God forbid you have the most picks in the draft year after year.

Maybe they'll give us some for free just to get rid of them.

[The30YardSlant]

Patrick Peterson is worth trading into the top 5 for IMO, but unless our scouts are sure he is going to be an all-world player it might be more prudent to sit and wait for Prince to fall to us at #9.

[UnoDallas]

there is no one worth trading away picks for this year

I see us trading down for OT

[burmafrd]

There is no one we can get that will fall to 5 or 6 that would be worth either the cap money or picks to get. Frankly I would be happy to trade down to 15, and get as many 2nd and 3rd rd picks as possible as that is where the talent is this year. Actually I would get rid of all picks past 4 to try and get higher picks. Would not be adverse to trading down twice; to 13-15 and 20-23. Then if a tackle is around worth getting grab him. The only single player I would like to get is Rahim Moore since he is the best FS in the draft. And he is probably gettable at our 2nd rd pick- would not be adverse to trading up a little to make sure we got him.