View Full Version : PFT: Rodgers tells sold out Lambeau crowd the Packers will repeat
cowboyjoe
02-08-2011, 05:45 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/08/rodgers-tells-sold-out-lambeau-crowd-the-packers-will-win-again-next-year/
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 8, 2011, 6:31 PM EST
It’s not out of the ordinary to hear a recently crowned champion tell adoring fans that they are going to repeat.
It is out of the ordinary for more than 56,000 people to brave temperatures estimated at 15 degrees below zero wind chill on a shool day to cheer on their heroes in a sold out NFL stadium. School was let out early for kids.
“”I’ll tell u what, Green Bay,” Aaron Rodgers said Tuesday to a frozen Lambeau Field crowd Tuesday. “We’re going two be right back here doing this exact same thing [next year].”
ThreeSportStar80
02-08-2011, 07:28 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/08/rodgers-tells-sold-out-lambeau-crowd-the-packers-will-win-again-next-year/
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 8, 2011, 6:31 PM EST
It’s not out of the ordinary to hear a recently crowned champion tell adoring fans that they are going to repeat.
It is out of the ordinary for more than 56,000 people to brave temperatures estimated at 15 degrees below zero wind chill on a shool day to cheer on their heroes in a sold out NFL stadium. School was let out early for kids.
“”I’ll tell u what, Green Bay,” Aaron Rodgers said Tuesday to a frozen Lambeau Field crowd Tuesday. “We’re going two be right back here doing this exact same thing [next year].”
Shouldn't that be "to"
Apollo Creed
02-08-2011, 07:31 PM
They'll have a shot.
That division is going to be much weaker next year.
hornitosmonster
02-08-2011, 07:33 PM
They'll have a shot.
That division is going to be much weaker next year.
?
The Bears will be ok and can add WR's
Detroit is knocking on the door of being decent/good.
Only the Vikings should regress.
Apollo Creed
02-08-2011, 07:36 PM
?
The Bears will be ok and can add WR's
Detroit is knocking on the door of being decent/good.
Only the Vikings should regress.
Bears won't be able to repeat their performance.
The Lions are getting better but Stafford is fragile.
Vikings are going to regress hard, I like Leslie Frazier but they're going to need to get a quality experienced QB if they want to contend.
RFKFedEx
02-08-2011, 07:36 PM
That dude really otta win something before he goes shooting his mouth off.
Oh wait, I forgot he's now a SB champ.:eek:
I've just grown so used to athletes making bold proclamations based on absolutely nothing but ego.
SacredStar
02-08-2011, 07:36 PM
They'll have a shot.
That division is going to be much weaker next year.
Maybe Minnesota, but Chicago always plays the Packers tough, and Detroit should be improved......they beat GB in Detroit and almost beat them in Lambeau (lost by 2 points). I think Minnesota will decline unless they secure a top veteran QB.
theebs
02-08-2011, 07:50 PM
He earned that right.
Dave_in-NC
02-08-2011, 07:51 PM
He earned that right.
Yes sir.
casmith07
02-08-2011, 07:55 PM
Not if we have something to say about it.
Mansta54
02-08-2011, 07:58 PM
That dude really otta win something before he goes shooting his mouth off.
Oh wait, I forgot he's now a SB champ.:eek:
I've just grown so used to athletes making bold proclamations based on absolutely nothing but ego.
Hey did Fat Albert turn himself in to the police yet? :eek:
theebs
02-08-2011, 08:00 PM
Not if we have something to say about it.
48-7 tells me we didnt have anything to say about it.
the americas game part where they beat us should be painful to watch.
I bet they spend more time on it than they did us beating the saints last year which was glossed right over.
perrykemp
02-08-2011, 08:04 PM
48-7 tells me we didnt have anything to say about it.
the americas game part where they beat us should be painful to watch.
I bet they spend more time on it than they did us beating the saints last year which was glossed right over.
I know its cliche to do this right after the Superbowl, however, when I loosely look position by position and compare our Roster with the Packers it's not a pretty comparison.
Ted Thompson has done such a good job of drafting young talent. Not only is their talent much better, it's also much younger, and their roster is so deep (obviously with 16 guys on IR and winning the SB).
visionary
02-08-2011, 08:07 PM
48-7 tells me we didnt have anything to say about it.
the americas game part where they beat us should be painful to watch.
I bet they spend more time on it than they did us beating the saints last year which was glossed right over.
did we win the SB last year?
i must have missed it :rolleyes:
Americas game is a program about the team that won the SB, saints last year, packers this year
we need to get over it and play better if we want to look good
theebs
02-08-2011, 08:12 PM
I know its cliche to do this right after the Superbowl, however, when I loosely look position by position and compare our Roster with the Packers it's not a pretty comparison.
Ted Thompson has done such a good job of drafting young talent. Not only is their talent much better, it's also much younger, and their roster is so deep (obviously with 16 guys on IR and winning the SB).
I understand, at the same time they went on a nice run. they were 3 yards from the bears punching it in the third qtr of week 17 from being down 10-0 and maybe not even making the playoffs. Which is exactly where the 07 giants were in week 16 against buffalo in 07. Trent edwards through a ball that bounced right off lee evans chest and madison caught it and ran it in.....the giants then scored again on the next posession and got hot.
Almost identical to this packers run. After the giants beat the pats everyone started declaring there roster as this incredible work of art that did not have a hole in it. The dynasty talk started there the week after the superbowl. Just like it is now for the packers.
Then burress went to jail and spagnulo went to st.louis and that same roster all of a sudden had holes coming out of everywhere.
Just when you think you have it all figured out you shoot yourself in the foot, in the giants case literally.
SO while I applaud ted thompson and congratulate that organization they were a few yards from the bears punching it in and probably knocking the packers out, just like the bills were the giants in 07.
So time will tell.
theebs
02-08-2011, 08:14 PM
did we win the SB last year?
i must have missed it :rolleyes:
Americas game is a program about the team that won the SB, saints last year, packers this year
we need to get over it and play better if we want to look good
What? Have you ever watched the americas game shows? They focus on the important games and big moments.
us beating new orleans and them losing two weeks in a row at home was a big deal. they just glossed right over the dallas loss in the show.
Its not about us winning the superbowl. Its about the structure of the show. You have to be pretty dense to not get that.
mldardy
02-08-2011, 08:15 PM
I know its cliche to do this right after the Superbowl, however, when I loosely look position by position and compare our Roster with the Packers it's not a pretty comparison.
Ted Thompson has done such a good job of drafting young talent. Not only is their talent much better, it's also much younger, and their roster is so deep (obviously with 16 guys on IR and winning the SB).
Really? so I would like to know outside of the secondary(which I think is still talented but poorly coached and not motivated) what is much better about the Packers roster than ours. Their oline is probably slightly better I guess, running backs - you can make an argument for both sides.
wide receivers - same as running backs
tight end - i'll go with dallas
qb - well that is THE hot topic Rodgers is better right now but not by much. Let's see what Romo does with better coaching and better oline.
dline - probably a push
lb's - i guess green bay's lb's are better? Not sure
punter - hell no
kicker - again I guess, D
So please enlighten us on where the Packers talent so much better than the Cowboys. From what I can tell most things look pretty even or one unit may be slightly better than the other.
Cowboys&LakersFan
02-08-2011, 08:18 PM
I'd be absolutely stunned if they don't. Only way they don't repeat is of Rodgers gets injured.
mldardy
02-08-2011, 08:18 PM
48-7 tells me we didnt have anything to say about it.
the americas game part where they beat us should be painful to watch.
I bet they spend more time on it than they did us beating the saints last year which was glossed right over.
Yes because that game will mean so much to what happens next year.:rolleyes: That game was when we at THE lowest point of our season. No one was focused that game.
cowboyjoe
02-08-2011, 08:18 PM
I understand, at the same time they went on a nice run. they were 3 yards from the bears punching it in the third qtr of week 17 from being down 10-0 and maybe not even making the playoffs. Which is exactly where the 07 giants were in week 16 against buffalo in 07. Trent edwards through a ball that bounced right off lee evans chest and madison caught it and ran it in.....the giants then scored again on the next posession and got hot.
Almost identical to this packers run. After the giants beat the pats everyone started declaring there roster as this incredible work of art that did not have a hole in it. The dynasty talk started there the week after the superbowl. Just like it is now for the packers.
Then burress went to jail and spagnulo went to st.louis and that same roster all of a sudden had holes coming out of everywhere.
Just when you think you have it all figured out you shoot yourself in the foot, in the giants case literally.
SO while I applaud ted thompson and congratulate that organization they were a few yards from the bears punching it in and probably knocking the packers out, just like the bills were the giants in 07.
So time will tell.
right, packers do have holes,
one of their star wrs got hurt, and he is close to the end i think
woodson broke his collarbone, and generally players defensively when they do that, start showing signs of wearing down, close to the end
they still dont have a really good rb, their wrs sets opens up holes for their running attack, but generally when they have to grind it out running, they cant, their set to throw the ball
rodgers just started having concussions, and he is fairly young, not a good sign to me;
there are holes in the packers, just have to know where to look, and attack
mldardy
02-08-2011, 08:20 PM
right, packers do have holes,
one of their star wrs got hurt, and he is close to the end i think
woodson broke his collarbone, and generally players defensively when they do that, start showing signs of wearing down, close to the end
they still dont have a really good rb, their wrs sets opens up holes for their running attack, but generally when they have to grind it out running, they cant, their set to throw the ball
rodgers just started having concussions, and he is fairly young, not a good sign to me;
there are holes in the packers, just have to know where to look, and attack
Oh no don't let Green Bay Packers fan errrrrr Dallas Cowboys Fan see this. They have the all world Ryan Grant at rb.
cowboyjoe
02-08-2011, 08:21 PM
Yes because that game will mean so much to what happens next year.:rolleyes: That game was when we at THE lowest point of our season. No one was focused that game.
yep,, and the pounding we took, a few years before that, from the eagles, we destroyed them the next yr
our main problem to me, we have some fat, lazy players on our team, and they need to be pushed and worked hard, which i think is what jason garrett will do
you saw the results when jason took over, lost 3 out of 8 games
Hoofbite
02-08-2011, 08:21 PM
Not if we have something to say about it.
:laugh2:
I'm sorry but this just struck me funny.
dbair1967
02-08-2011, 08:22 PM
I'd be absolutely stunned if they don't. Only way they don't repeat is of Rodgers gets injured.
Dude, you are out of your mind. They are not that much better than the rest of the league.
They arnt the 92 Cowboys reincarnated.
theebs
02-08-2011, 08:23 PM
Yes because that game will mean so much to what happens next year.:rolleyes: That game was when we at THE lowest point of our season. No one was focused that game.
It doesnt matter if we were at our lowest point or not. We played them this season and they completely toyed with us. I bet they could have scored in the 60s that night had they wanted to.
and I dont care what the excuse is, they did that to us on the way to a championship so to me they deserve there due.
perrykemp
02-08-2011, 08:27 PM
Really? so I would like to know outside of the secondary(which I think is still talented but poorly coached and not motivated) what is much better about the Packers roster than ours. Their oline is probably slightly better I guess, running backs - you can make an argument for both sides.
wide receivers - same as running backs
tight end - i'll go with dallas
qb - well that is THE hot topic Rodgers is better right now but not by much. Let's see what Romo does with better coaching and better oline.
dline - probably a push
lb's - i guess green bay's lb's are better? Not sure
punter - hell no
kicker - again I guess, D
So please enlighten us on where the Packers talent so much better than the Cowboys. From what I can tell most things look pretty even or one unit may be slightly better than the other.
Ok, I'll give it a shot:
QB: Rogers over Romo -- not much debate here any more
RB: Ryan Grant / James Starks / John Kuhn vs Felix / Choice. Grant is a proven 1200 yard rusher. Starks seems to be up and coming and Kuhn is a heck of a utility FB. Felix might be better than any of them but he hasn't proven it yet. I'll say Packers despite the fact they don't seem to care much about running it.
WR: Our #1 and #2 WRs and TE are probably superior but their #3, #4 WRs are vastly superior to ours in Nelson and Jones -- I'll say push
OL: They have maybe the best guard in the NFC in Sitton and a young stud OT in Buluga -- not to mention a Pro-Bowl LT in Clifton. We have maybe one good player on Free. Advantage Packers
DL: They have a monster in BJ Raji, maybe the best pash rushing 3-4 DE in Jenkins, and what looks like a lot of depth. We have a 30+ year old Ratliff.... Advantage Packers
Secondary: They have three pro-bowlers, last year's DPOY in Woodson, and one of the best young CBs in the league playing nickle in Shields. We had maybe the worst secondary in the NFL last year. Advantage Packers
LB: We have very good pair of OLBs, however our ILBs are fair to middling. They have Clay Matthews, AJ Hawk, Bishop, their former #1 Nick Barnett coming back next from injury, and two other OLBs who combined for 7 sacks in Zombo and Walden. Advantage Packers.
Kicker: Theirs is better
Punter: Ours is betterOf all the positions, I have the Cowboys having superior personal at one position - punter.
visionary
02-08-2011, 08:28 PM
What? Have you ever watched the americas game shows? They focus on the important games and big moments.
us beating new orleans and them losing two weeks in a row at home was a big deal. they just glossed right over the dallas loss in the show.
Its not about us winning the superbowl. Its about the structure of the show. You have to be pretty dense to not get that.
:laugh2:
been called worse but to me the idea is to make the SB winning team look good.
i guess you do have to be pretty dense not to get that (and apparently you didnt). ;)
Cowboys&LakersFan
02-08-2011, 08:29 PM
Ok, I'll give it a shot:
QB: Rogers over Romo -- not much debate here any more
RB: Ryan Grant / James Starks / John Kuhn vs Felix / Choice. Grant is a proven 1200 yard rusher. Starks seems to be up and coming and Kuhn is a heck of a utility FB. Felix might be better than any of them but he hasn't proven it yet. I'll say Packers despite the fact they don't seem to care much about running it.
WR: Our #1 and #2 WRs and TE are probably superior but their #3, #4 WRs are vastly superior to ours in Nelson and Jones -- I'll say push
OL: They have maybe the best guard in the NFC in Sitton and a young stud OT in Buluga -- not to mention a Pro-Bowl LT in Clifton. We have maybe one good player on Free. Advantage Packers
DL: They have a monster in BJ Raji, maybe the best pash rushing 3-4 DE in Jenkins, and what looks like a lot of depth. We have a 30+ year old Ratliff.... Advantage Packers
Secondary: They have three pro-bowlers, last year's DPOY in Woodson, and one of the best young CBs in the league playing nickle in Shields. We had maybe the worst secondary in the NFL last year. Advantage Packers
LB: We have very good pair of OLBs, however our ILBs are fair to middling. They have Clay Matthews, AJ Hawk, Bishop, their former #1 Nick Barnett coming back next from injury, and two other OLBs who combined for 7 sacks in Zombo and Walden. Advantage Packers.
Kicker: Theirs is better
Punter: Ours is betterOf all the positions, I have the Cowboys having superior personal at one position - punter.
/ thread
Lol we don't stand a shot against them.
mldardy
02-08-2011, 08:30 PM
Ok, I'll give it a shot:
QB: Rogers over Romo -- not much debate here any more
RB: Ryan Grant / James Starks / John Kuhn vs Felix / Choice. Grant is a proven 1200 yard rusher. Starks seems to be up and coming and Kuhn is a heck of a utility FB. Felix might be better than any of them but he hasn't proven it yet. I'll say Packers despite the fact they don't seem to care much about running it.
WR: Our #1 and #2 WRs and TE are probably superior but their #3, #4 WRs are vastly superior to ours in Nelson and Jones -- I'll say push
OL: They have maybe the best guard in the NFC in Sitton and a young stud OT in Buluga -- not to mention a Pro-Bowl LT in Clifton. We have maybe one good player on Free. Advantage Packers
DL: They have a monster in BJ Raji, maybe the best pash rushing 3-4 DE in Jenkins, and what looks like a lot of depth. We have a 30+ year old Ratliff.... Advantage Packers
Secondary: They have three pro-bowlers, last year's DPOY in Woodson, and one of the best young CBs in the league playing nickle in Shields. We had maybe the worst secondary in the NFL last year. Advantage Packers
LB: We have very good pair of OLBs, however our ILBs are fair to middling. They have Clay Matthews, AJ Hawk, Bishop, their former #1 Nick Barnett coming back next from injury, and two other OLBs who combined for 7 sacks in Zombo and Walden. Advantage Packers.
Kicker: Theirs is better
Punter: Ours is betterOf all the positions, I have the Cowboys having superior personal at one position - punter.
What I get out of this post is you are propping up the Packers roster wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much. I stand by my original statement. The Packers roster is not much better than ours.
mldardy
02-08-2011, 08:31 PM
It doesnt matter if we were at our lowest point or not. We played them this season and they completely toyed with us. I bet they could have scored in the 60s that night had they wanted to.
and I dont care what the excuse is, they did that to us on the way to a championship so to me they deserve there due.
It does matter because that game has nothing to do with next year.
FloridaRob
02-08-2011, 08:32 PM
I understand, at the same time they went on a nice run. they were 3 yards from the bears punching it in the third qtr of week 17 from being down 10-0 and maybe not even making the playoffs. ....
and the opposite of that was the Packers were 20 points from being undefeated. They never trailed by more than seven points in a game all season. They did it on the road with 16 players on injured reserve. The only way they are not in the title game next year is if Rodgers gets hurt. And all that does is bring them down a notch. With Flynn at QB they are still better than anyone else in the NFC North. Heck with everybody back next year and another draft class by Ted Thompson, they may not even need a qb next year.
just kidding, Stay well A-rodg
Dave_in-NC
02-08-2011, 08:33 PM
So was he supposed to say "we don't stand a chance"
I'm sure Pits players are saying the same thing.
theebs
02-08-2011, 08:34 PM
:laugh2:
been called worse but to me the idea is to make the SB winning team look good.
i guess you do have to be pretty dense not to get that (and apparently you didnt). ;)
wrong the show works not because it makes the super bowl team look good, the show works because it shows the ups and downs and things the teams and individuals had to overcome to win.
my point was that for some reason they glossed right over the cowboys beating them in that americas game, I bet next year they dont because the cowboys/vikings wins for the packers were very indicative of how good they were and how dominating they could be.
the colts americas game included the undefeated season ending to Dallas.
you are taking one thing and tyring to equate it to me trying to make some sort of complaint about Dallas, which is not the case I am talking about the americas game episodes.
perrykemp
02-08-2011, 08:37 PM
What I get out of this post is you are propping up the Packers roster wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much. I stand by my original statement. The Packers roster is not much better than ours.
I think you are looking at the starting 22 on each team -- and if we are looking at the top 22 I think you might be right -- the overall talent levels might not be much different.
The big difference is the in the next 22 guys on the roster -- that's where the Packers are clearly the class of the NFL. Their backups are young and experienced -- many of which played a lot of games this year. Look at the list of backups players on the superbowl roster AND/OR starters who were injured who weren't on the Superbowl roster:
TE Jeremichael Finley
RB Ryan Grant
LB Nick Barnett
DL John Jolly
WR Jordy Nelson
WR James Jones
CB Sam Shields
SS Morgan Burnett
DE Mike Neal (their #2 round pick DL last year)
That's a pretty incredible list of guys. Who are our guys that compare?
theebs
02-08-2011, 08:41 PM
I think you are looking at the starting 22 on each team -- and if we are looking at the top 22 I think you might be right -- the overall talent levels might not be much different.
The big difference is the in the next 22 guys on the roster -- that's where the Packers are clearly the class of the NFL. Their backups are young and experienced -- many of which played a lot of games this year. Look at the list of backups players on the superbowl roster AND/OR starters who were injured who weren't on the Superbowl roster:
TE Jeremichael Finley
RB Ryan Grant
LB Nick Barnett
DL John Jolly
WR Jordy Nelson
WR James Jones
CB Sam Shields
SS Morgan Burnett
DE Mike Neal (their #2 round pick DL last year)
That's a pretty incredible list of guys. Who are our guys that compare?
dont get carried away. IF they are this incredible how did they lose 6 games?
They went on a run and rodgers played terrific. One year doesnt translate to the next, particularly in the nfc.
again, they are just like the giants in 07. No one ever thought the giants defense could be stopped or the giant running game. Just like the packers passing game and pass rush. Stuff happens and things change.
FloridaRob
02-08-2011, 08:41 PM
Perry, if you are a Cowboy fan then why do you have a Packer players name as your screen name. I always thought you were a Packer fan until your last couple of posts.
BlueStar3398
02-08-2011, 08:44 PM
They say it's very hard to get 2 in a row, but it sure does get the crowd pumped up.
Romo told all the fans in San Antonio the same thing (See you at the Super Bowl!!!) :laugh2:
mldardy
02-08-2011, 08:47 PM
I think you are looking at the starting 22 on each team -- and if we are looking at the top 22 I think you might be right -- the overall talent levels might not be much different.
The big difference is the in the next 22 guys on the roster -- that's where the Packers are clearly the class of the NFL. Their backups are young and experienced -- many of which played a lot of games this year. Look at the list of backups players on the superbowl roster AND/OR starters who were injured who weren't on the Superbowl roster:
TE Jeremichael Finley
RB Ryan Grant
LB Nick Barnett
DL John Jolly
WR Jordy Nelson
WR James Jones
CB Sam Shields
SS Morgan Burnett
DE Mike Neal (their #2 round pick DL last year)
That's a pretty incredible list of guys. Who are our guys that compare?
Incredible.:laugh2: What is so incredible about that list. Nelson and Jones are3rd/4th options and nothing more. Finley has the potential to be special but that is all right now. Barnett is good. The rest? Nothing incredible about them or any of it for that matter. Look the Packers had a great run and everything but you are giving their roster way too much hype.
FloridaRob
02-08-2011, 08:49 PM
I can tell you why they lost six games. Finley was such a significant part of their offense that when he went down the Packers had to readjust their offense around Greg Jennings. That and Mason Crosby missed a field goal at Washington where they should have won, the same game Matthews was injured and then they lost with Matthews on the sideline against Miami, Jennings dropped a TD pass from Rodgers in detroit, that bounced of his hands into an interception, the same game Rodgers suffered a concussion, then lost to New England without Rodgers.
Several of those losses including Miami, Atlanta, and New England can be attributed to special teams. The special teams were having a difficult time because of the injuries. When core special team players were injured or were being asked to replace the starters, they were taken off special teams duty. It took a while to get those players in place. And over the last month and playoffs, the Packers special teams were better than any team they faced. Including Chicago who is known for outstanding special teams...
windward
02-08-2011, 08:50 PM
Yes because that game will mean so much to what happens next year.:rolleyes: That game was when we at THE lowest point of our season. No one was focused that game.
It will mean as much as 44-6 meant in 2009.
perrykemp
02-08-2011, 08:52 PM
Incredible.:laugh2: What is so incredible about that list. Nelson and Jones are3rd/4th options and nothing more. Finley has the potential to be special but that is all right now. Barnett is good. The rest? Nothing incredible about them or any of it for that matter. Look the Packers had a great run and everything but you are giving their roster way too much hype.
I suspect both Jordy and Jones would be #2 receivers on quite a few teams in the NFL.
theebs
02-08-2011, 08:55 PM
I can tell you why they lost six games. Finley was such a significant part of their offense that when he went down the Packers had to readjust their offense around Greg Jennings. That and Mason Crosby missed a field goal at Washington where they should have won, the same game Matthews was injured and then they lost with Matthews on the sideline against Miami, Jennings dropped a TD pass from Rodgers in detroit, that bounced of his hands into an interception, the same game Rodgers suffered a concussion, then lost to New England without Rodgers.
Several of those losses including Miami, Atlanta, and New England can be attributed to special teams. The special teams were having a difficult time because of the injuries. When core special team players were injured or were being asked to replace the starters, they were taken off special teams duty. It took a while to get those players in place. And over the last month and playoffs, the Packers special teams were better than any team they faced. Including Chicago who is known for outstanding special teams...
no offense, Every team can break down their losses like that. Its all just part of the game. the ball bounces differently every week.
The packers seized the moment and put together an incredible run, just like the giants. But you going back and explaining the losses like you think they should be perfect or something is beyond silly.
I will even say that the giants run was more impressive. they beat better teams, much better teams imo than the pack did. But that doesnt even matter both teams are champions and deserve the accolades.
The30YardSlant
02-08-2011, 08:56 PM
Won't the most difficult repeat ever. The NFC Central is going to SUCK next year. The Vikings will be starting Tavaris Jackson, the Bears will come back down to earth and the Lions will be the Lions. That, combined with the fact that they will be playing only four teams that made the postseason this year, means that have a great shot.
perrykemp
02-08-2011, 09:00 PM
no offense, Every team can break down their losses like that. Its all just part of the game. the ball bounces differently every week.
Theebs, I tend to agree with you when I see it broken down that way.... the four things that I do think <MIGHT> lend credibility to the argument that this years Packer's team was WAY better than than their 10-6 record is:
Well, they won the Superbowl
1st team in the modern era of the NFL never to trail a game by more than 7 points at any time
16 guys on IR
In those 6 losses they lost by a total of 20 pointsHey, they were a 10-6 team, but there are some very interesting stat-lines in their season.
Hoofbite
02-08-2011, 09:01 PM
Won't the most difficult repeat ever. The NFC Central is going to SUCK next year. The Vikings will be starting Tavaris Jackson, the Bears will come back down to earth and the Lions will be the Lions. That, combined with the fact that they will be playing only four teams that made the postseason this year, means that have a great shot.
:confused:
Really? so I would like to know outside of the secondary(which I think is still talented but poorly coached and not motivated) what is much better about the Packers roster than ours. Their oline is probably slightly better I guess, running backs - you can make an argument for both sides.
wide receivers - same as running backs
tight end - i'll go with dallas
qb - well that is THE hot topic Rodgers is better right now but not by much. Let's see what Romo does with better coaching and better oline.
dline - probably a push
lb's - i guess green bay's lb's are better? Not sure
punter - hell no
kicker - again I guess, D
So please enlighten us on where the Packers talent so much better than the Cowboys. From what I can tell most things look pretty even or one unit may be slightly better than the other.
Get your mind beyond parochial favoritism.
Inside Backers...GB
Corners...GB
Safety...GB bigtime
Wide Receivers? Green Bay has the best in the league.
O-Line? Green Bay by a massive margin
D-Line? Green Bay again
Kicker? You've got to be kidding. Of course Green Bay
Quarterback? Look at my avatar...but I can't argue that again GB
The only positions where we are better:
Tight End (but Finley changes the equation next season for them)
OLB (maybe)
Running Back (maybe)
Punter
I suspect both Jordy and Jones would be #2 receivers on quite a few teams in the NFL.
This. They have the deepest and best bunch in the league. Just listen to what opposing DBS said about them this year.
The30YardSlant
02-08-2011, 09:19 PM
:confused:
Sorry, meant NFC North. Mind stuck in the 90s.
jamesdojr
02-08-2011, 09:42 PM
Wouldn't doubt it. Hate to say it but they are a team that doesn't have the word "quit" in their vocabulary. A group of guys who seem very serious about football and who seem like they work really hard all year long.
Not sure if I can say that about my team at this point.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/08/rodgers-tells-sold-out-lambeau-crowd-the-packers-will-win-again-next-year/
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 8, 2011, 6:31 PM EST
It’s not out of the ordinary to hear a recently crowned champion tell adoring fans that they are going to repeat.
It is out of the ordinary for more than 56,000 people to brave temperatures estimated at 15 degrees below zero wind chill on a shool day to cheer on their heroes in a sold out NFL stadium. School was let out early for kids.
“”I’ll tell u what, Green Bay,” Aaron Rodgers said Tuesday to a frozen Lambeau Field crowd Tuesday. “We’re going two be right back here doing this exact same thing [next year].”
mldardy
02-08-2011, 10:10 PM
Get your mind beyond parochial favoritism.
Inside Backers...GB
Corners...GB
Safety...GB bigtime
Wide Receivers? Green Bay has the best in the league.
O-Line? Green Bay by a massive margin
D-Line? Green Bay again
Kicker? You've got to be kidding. Of course Green Bay
Quarterback? Look at my avatar...but I can't argue that again GB
The only positions where we are better:
Tight End (but Finley changes the equation next season for them)
OLB (maybe)
Running Back (maybe)
Punter
Wow way to assume there buddy. I repeat Green Bay's roster is not much better than our roster. At a maximum there is roster is slightly better than ours. You aren't going to change my mind about this no matter how many "clever" ways you think you can.
Cowboys&LakersFan
02-08-2011, 10:13 PM
Wow way to assume there buddy. I repeat Green Bay's roster is not much better than our roster. At a maximum there is roster is slightly better than ours. You aren't going to change my mind about this no matter how many "clever" ways you think you can.
Dude dont be a homer. The Packers roster is way way better than ours.
casmith07
02-08-2011, 10:25 PM
lol at all of the Packers fans in this thread.
Cowboys&LakersFan
02-08-2011, 10:26 PM
lol at all of the Packers fans in this thread.
Lol dude I hate the Packers I'm just speaking the truth. Green Bay will he this decade's version of the 90's Cowboys. Maybe not quite as dominant but equally successful.
The30YardSlant
02-08-2011, 10:28 PM
lol at all of the Packers fans in this thread.
It's hard to argue that they don't have a great shot to repeat, if for no other reason than they have a relatively easy schedule next season and they won a title with nearly a third of their roster out with injuries.
AMERICAS_FAN
02-08-2011, 10:45 PM
“”I’ll tell u what, Green Bay,” Aaron Rodgers said Tuesday to a frozen Lambeau Field crowd Tuesday. “We’re going two be right back here doing this exact same thing [next year].”
Translation: The Defense will try and win it for us next year too.
Cowboys&LakersFan
02-08-2011, 11:07 PM
“”I’ll tell u what, Green Bay,” Aaron Rodgers said Tuesday to a frozen Lambeau Field crowd Tuesday. “We’re going two be right back here doing this exact same thing [next year].”
Translation: The Defense will try and win it for us next year too.
Rodgers won it for them as well. I've been watching Football for a long time never saw a better superbowl performance by a QB.
Fletch
02-08-2011, 11:20 PM
It doesnt matter if we were at our lowest point or not. We played them this season and they completely toyed with us. I bet they could have scored in the 60s that night had they wanted to.
and I dont care what the excuse is, they did that to us on the way to a championship so to me they deserve there due.
That's cool. But I'm a Dallas Cowboys' fan and I'm going to argue that we're not far off from contending. I just can't bow out b/c the Packers won the Super Bowl. Sure they will be the favorites. But all those saying we are garbage and don't stand a chance can go and kiss it. Nobody is going to sway my line of thinking regarding my team.
Barring a lockout, it's a new season. Anything can happen. Just ask the defending Super Bowl champs.
SaltwaterServr
02-08-2011, 11:27 PM
lol at all of the Packers fans in this thread.
Lot of Saints fans, had it been a year ago. :rolleyes:
BanditHiro
02-08-2011, 11:37 PM
i think there will be a new champion...maybe two years from now they will win again...
SaltwaterServr
02-08-2011, 11:40 PM
i think there will be a new champion...maybe two years from now they will win again...
Possibly. History says that the chances of repeating are slim.
Denver, Dallas, NE. Three repeats in a span of 19 years of the salary cap era.
Wasn't this the first year in a while that both of the Super Bowl teams managed to even make the playoffs the following year?
MarionBarberThe4th
02-08-2011, 11:51 PM
Id take their core over any other in the league.
CliffnMesquite
02-09-2011, 12:37 AM
"See you at the Superbowl"
-Tony Romo
CanadianCowboysFan
02-09-2011, 01:21 AM
He earned that right.
except if it were a Cowboy, you would be saying he should shut his piehole.
"See you at the Superbowl"
-Tony Romo
I'm sure he had great seats :laugh2:
theebs
02-09-2011, 07:20 AM
except if it were a Cowboy, you would be saying he should shut his piehole.
Not if we won the superbowl I wouldnt.
if we win the superbowl and our guys start talking about repeating that would be fun. Although its something I wouldnt do personally.
theebs
02-09-2011, 07:21 AM
That's cool. But I'm a Dallas Cowboys' fan and I'm going to argue that we're not far off from contending. I just can't bow out b/c the Packers won the Super Bowl. Sure they will be the favorites. But all those saying we are garbage and don't stand a chance can go and kiss it. Nobody is going to sway my line of thinking regarding my team.
Barring a lockout, it's a new season. Anything can happen. Just ask the defending Super Bowl champs.
Come next year I will be right there with ya. But as of right now, their current team obliterated our current team.
DallasEast
02-09-2011, 07:40 AM
After Super Bowl XLIV, the Saints had a great shot of repeating in 2010. After Super Bowl XLV, the Packers shall have a great shot of repeating in 2011.
Perhaps more folks should put down their game controllers and start considering the practical aspects of teams repeating each year. This isn't the 90's, 80's, 70's, etc., and Adam Vinatieri left New England a long time ago.
It's time for all NFL fans to take a long, hard look at the era we live in. Or finally wake up. Whichever's easiest.
tyke1doe
02-09-2011, 09:50 AM
I'm sure he had great seats :laugh2:
:lmao:
tyke1doe
02-09-2011, 09:56 AM
Truth be told, with a new coach and a new defensive coordinator, and a few more pieces, I think the Cowboys can compete for a Super Bowl.
Romo is a very good quarterback and if we fix the line, he'll be able to get er done.
I like Felix Jones as a starting running back (better than Ryan Grant, IMO) and we're likely to get another good running back through the draft (dime a dozen) even if we lose Choice and Barber.
I like our receiving corps (Bryant, Witten, Austin, Bennett, Roy Williams, who was performing much better with Romo under center).
We have defensive pieces in Ware, Ratliff, Jenkins (yes, I believe he can be very good corner) and Sean Lee (assuming he can stay healthy).
We get a top 10 pick so we're going to pick up a blue-chip player. We could get the corner from the Raiders in free agency. If we pick up an offensive lineman and a safety, we should be straight.
I'm encouraged.
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