Jeremy Green pleads guilty

[dirtycallahan]

A quick glimpse into the cesspool of humanity.......

Former ESPN analyst and Cleveland Browns scout Jeremy Green, the son of former Minnesota Vikings and Arizona Cardinals head coach Dennis Green, has pleaded guilty to one count of child pornography and was sentenced to 20 years in prison, suspended after five, according to the Hartford Courant.

Green was accused of sharing sexually explicity photos and videos of a toddler on the Internet.

He was also sentenced to 10 years of probation.

Green was chatting online with a woman with the handle, 'lendingmom12' who told him she would bring her three children to Connecticut to meet with Green.

link
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Jeremy-Green-pleads-guilty-in-child-pornography-case.html

[HoleInTheRoof]

So he only gets 5 years?

[Sam I Am]

Ugh. That sickens me.

[HoleInTheRoof]

Toddlers man. Toddlers.

[burmafrd]

I really hate these let em go Moe judges. This piece of crap should go inside and never come out.

What is it with all too many sons of NFL Head coaches> Tony Dungy, Andy Reid, now Dennis Green?

[WV Cowboy]

He should never, never, ever, ever be allowed out of prison ever again.

Never, ever.

There is an innocent child somewhere that he will molest some day because our society let's him out.

[Achilleslastand]

So he got 5 years with the remainder suspended? What depends if the remainder is suspended? Good behavior?
Or is it automatic.
Gotta love liberal limp wristed judges. This sounds like something you might get for a decent mary jane bust.
O well......he will get out in 42 months with good behavior then receive the comeback sportscaster of the yr award from espn then be given the keys to Hartford.

:laugh2:

[mldardy]

So he only gets 5 years?
How much time do you want him to get? 5 years is enough, probably too much. He should definitely do time but if you are wanting 20 years or something for this? No. Murderers, rapists, thieves sometimes get less time than this. Look what he did and could have done were bad but this guy needs more medical help than anything. 5 years is about right.

[burmafrd]

why am I not surprised you think so. Its just a baby, so who cares? Does not matter that research has shown the recidivism rate of pedophiles is in the 90th percentile. You only care about the pedophile, not his future victims.

[Manwiththeplan]

How much time do you want him to get? 5 years is enough, probably too much. He should definitely do time but if you are wanting 20 years or something for this? No. Murderers, rapists, thieves sometimes get less time than this. Look what he did and could have done were bad but this guy needs more medical help than anything. 5 years is about right.

gotta go with the mob on this one. I do agree he needs medical help, but what ever he needs will take more than 5 years

[MarionBarberThe4th]

How much time do you want him to get? 5 years is enough, probably too much. He should definitely do time but if you are wanting 20 years or something for this? No. Murderers, rapists, thieves sometimes get less time than this. Look what he did and could have done were bad but this guy needs more medical help than anything. 5 years is about right.


Wow. Youd rather someone be trafficking child porn than steal a car stereo?




On a side note, Plaxico Buress is looking more and more sympathetic

[FootballFan1]

why am I not surprised you think so. Its just a baby, so who cares? Does not matter that research has shown the recidivism rate of pedophiles is in the 90th percentile. You only care about the pedophile, not his future victims.

I think you hit the nail on the head. And guess what, murderers have the lowest recidivism rate.

These people simply cannot stop. I don't understand it, cannot even comprehend it. Why??? How can a child "turn you on"????

But this issue is ignored or people are given light sentences. Should NOT happen considering it is a mental illness -- jail time or in a mental institution?? Either one, get them OFF the street. Castrate anyone?? Sounds like a plan -- castrate or stay off the streets.

And consider this issue with the Catholic church, a church that ignored priests doing this -- or covered up for them. And for the most part -- zero consequences. And I have got to believe some of these kids do not come out "whole" after experiencing something like that.

I still ask why??? I have never known or talked to a pedophile, but that would be my first question. Why???

[jnday]

How much time do you want him to get? 5 years is enough, probably too much. He should definitely do time but if you are wanting 20 years or something for this? No. Murderers, rapists, thieves sometimes get less time than this. Look what he did and could have done were bad but this guy needs more medical help than anything. 5 years is about right.
There is no medical help for him. It has been tried with little positive results. I don`t know what the answer is for pedophiles as far as punishment goes , but I`m sure that pills and talking to a shrink shouldn`t be considered punishment. Some people just have an evil streak . There is no excuses to be made for them. I sure don`t want a pedophile in my community around my kids and grandkids . Would you trust him ? Children are our most precious gifts in life. I consider Green on the same level as a murderer , rapist or thief . Maybe worse. a 25 year minimum stint would just be a starting point IMO.

[mldardy]

Wow. Youd rather someone be trafficking child porn than steal a car stereo?




On a side note, Plaxico Buress is looking more and more sympathetic
Wow where did I say that? :confused:

I'll answer I didn't. Nice way of taking my comments and twisting them around. That's pretty typical of you though.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

How much time do you want him to get? 5 years is enough, probably too much. He should definitely do time but if you are wanting 20 years or something for this? No. Murderers, rapists, thieves sometimes get less time than this.

Wow where did I say that? :confused:

I'll answer I didn't. Nice way of taking my comments and twisting them around. That's pretty typical of you though.


You said Green should get less than 5 years for trafficking pornography of an infant.

Then you say that murderers, rapists, and thieves get less time than that.

One of these is not like the other. A thief does not deserve the time that those others deserve. The damage they do is a fraction of thievery

[mldardy]

You said Green should get less than 5 years for trafficking pornography of an infant.

Then you say that murderers, rapists, and thieves get less time than that.

One of these is not like the other. A thief does not deserve the time that those others deserve. The damage they do is a fraction of thievery
I said 5 years is enough. I didn't say less than 5 years.

Some murderers, rapists and thieves do get less time. That is a fact. A thief does deserve that time depending on what they have done. I guess you think someone like Bernie Madoff deserves less time. You like how I twisted it up on you like you did me except I am presenting facts and making sense and you aren't.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

How much time do you want him to get? 5 years is enough, probably too much. He should definitely do time but if you are wanting 20 years or something for this? No. Murderers, rapists, thieves sometimes get less time than this. Look what he did and could have done were bad but this guy needs more medical help than anything. 5 years is about right.

I said 5 years is enough. I didn't say less than 5 years.

Some murderers, rapists and thieves do get less time. That is a fact. A thief does deserve that time depending on what they have done. I guess you think someone like Bernie Madoff deserves less time. You like how I twisted it up on you like you did me except I am presenting facts and making sense and you aren't.



I dont even know what you are trying to say. But judging by the tone of your reaction it sounds like you dont think pedos > thieves and thats all I needed to hear.

I still think you are being too kind to pedophiles though. They essentialy take the life out of their victims.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

And people think Vick is sick...

[mldardy]

I dont even know what you are trying to say. But judging by the tone of your reaction it sounds like you dont think pedos > thieves and thats all I needed to hear.

I still think you are being too kind to pedophiles though. They essentialy take the life out of their victims.
That's pretty obvious.

[Teren_Kanan]

Did he have anything to do with Child porn other than having photos and sending them? Was he involved with the kids in the pictures?

There is a huge difference between the 2 for me.

Yes, the type of person who will do something to a child is likely to do it again some day. However the average person who looks at child porn is NOT likely to ever touch a child, even though the average person who would touch a child, likely looks at child porn.

Both are sick bastards, who require legal actions against them, but there is a huge difference between the two types.

Reading the report, it seems like he would have gone so far as to act out his fantasies (he was looking to do so), which is pretty awful.

5 certainly isn't too much time. Someone like this should spend years getting medical attention and evaluation (while in prison), and NEVER be off of probation for the rest of their lives. People like this if they are ever released need to be flagged and monitored until they die. I seriously believe this sort of crime should get you GPS/ID tagged so the authorities can watch your every move.

I don't believe in 20+ year prison sentences though, for any crime of any level.

[Bonecrusher#31]

So he got 5 years with the remainder suspended? What depends if the remainder is suspended? Good behavior?
Or is it automatic.
Gotta love liberal limp wristed judges. This sounds like something you might get for a decent mary jane bust.
O well......he will get out in 42 months with good behavior then receive the comeback sportscaster of the yr award from espn then be given the keys to Hartford.

:laugh2:



:thread:

[burmafrd]

did some looking on this. What is interesting is that a lot of these studies are so incredibly narrow. Several basically limit any follow up that does not exclusively focus on children. If a child pornographer goes on and committs rape to an adult its not included; if the same individual committs any other crime its not included. Makes you wonder what the results would be if they included all child pornographers future felony convictions.

[FootballFan1]

Did he have anything to do with Child porn other than having photos and sending them? Was he involved with the kids in the pictures?

There is a huge difference between the 2 for me.

Yes, the type of person who will do something to a child is likely to do it again some day. However the average person who looks at child porn is NOT likely to ever touch a child, even though the average person who would touch a child, likely looks at child porn.

Both are sick bastards, who require legal actions against them, but there is a huge difference between the two types.

Reading the report, it seems like he would have gone so far as to act out his fantasies (he was looking to do so), which is pretty awful.

5 certainly isn't too much time. Someone like this should spend years getting medical attention and evaluation (while in prison), and NEVER be off of probation for the rest of their lives. People like this if they are ever released need to be flagged and monitored until they die. I seriously believe this sort of crime should get you GPS/ID tagged so the authorities can watch your every move.

I don't believe in 20+ year prison sentences though, for any crime of any level.

It's pretty weird but I was thinking the same thing. Is this guy out to make money, or is he a pedophile??? And there is a huge difference. Both scum of course. On one side, there is rehabilitation, on the other, most likely no.

It's also interesting that I am reading a book about this right now. If you want a really good writer -- Michael Connelly. The name of the book is called "The Poet". This guy writes really good crime books -- fiction. The main character (bad guy) is a pedophile that makes his money from child porn -- and he is a pedophile - killing cops. Connelly is known for writing about "true" facts about the cops and the criminals. All of his books are a good read. But it makes sense if this guy was selling porn he most likely has an "interest".

As for sentences, it really depends upon the person. I have zero problem with life sentences without parole for people like Manson, Gacy, or Bundy. No problem at all - in fact, no problem with the death penalty - the last two were executed. The justice system seems to always lump these people based upon the crime, without looking at their character. Some people get the death penalty for a robbery gone bad -- no I do not agree with that. The death penalty should be reserved for the "sickos" of the world.

And one other person mentioned Bernie Madoff. Wow, do we let white collar crime go by the wayside or what?? This guy ripped off charities that really help people. And zero conscience. None. I have NO problem with giving that guy the death penalty. None. And I am sure there will not be one person that agrees with me, but OK. A person that robs a bank -- and it goes bad-- or a man that literally steals from thousands of people leaving them without funds -- including many charities. One gets the death penalty, one gets jail time -- but big time sentence -- and that is good.

The justice system is unfair. And it depends upon the state -- this is at a state level, not federal, unless the FBI is involved - or espionage. Some states do not have a death penalty, while others use it with impunity. I personally agree with the death penalty -- but under very strict guidelines. Not for a robbery gone bad.

Interesting discussion.

[jnday]

It's pretty weird but I was thinking the same thing. Is this guy out to make money, or is he a pedophile??? And there is a huge difference. Both scum of course. On one side, there is rehabilitation, on the other, most likely no.

It's also interesting that I am reading a book about this right now. If you want a really good writer -- Michael Connelly. The name of the book is called "The Poet". This guy writes really good crime books -- fiction. The main character (bad guy) is a pedophile that makes his money from child porn -- and he is a pedophile - killing cops. Connelly is known for writing about "true" facts about the cops and the criminals. All of his books are a good read. But it makes sense if this guy was selling porn he most likely has an "interest".

As for sentences, it really depends upon the person. I have zero problem with life sentences without parole for people like Manson, Gacy, or Bundy. No problem at all - in fact, no problem with the death penalty - the last two were executed. The justice system seems to always lump these people based upon the crime, without looking at their character. Some people get the death penalty for a robbery gone bad -- no I do not agree with that. The death penalty should be reserved for the "sickos" of the world.

And one other person mentioned Bernie Madoff. Wow, do we let white collar crime go by the wayside or what?? This guy ripped off charities that really help people. And zero conscience. None. I have NO problem with giving that guy the death penalty. None. And I am sure there will not be one person that agrees with me, but OK. A person that robs a bank -- and it goes bad-- or a man that literally steals from thousands of people leaving them without funds -- including many charities. One gets the death penalty, one gets jail time -- but big time sentence -- and that is good.

The justice system is unfair. And it depends upon the state -- this is at a state level, not federal, unless the FBI is involved - or espionage. Some states do not have a death penalty, while others use it with impunity. I personally agree with the death penalty -- but under very strict guidelines. Not for a robbery gone bad.

Interesting discussion.

Kill `em all. Let God sort them out.:rolleyes:

[Teren_Kanan]

It's pretty weird but I was thinking the same thing. Is this guy out to make money, or is he a pedophile??? And there is a huge difference. Both scum of course. On one side, there is rehabilitation, on the other, most likely no.

As for sentences, it really depends upon the person. I have zero problem with life sentences without parole for people like Manson, Gacy, or Bundy. No problem at all - in fact, no problem with the death penalty - the last two were executed. The justice system seems to always lump these people based upon the crime, without looking at their character. Some people get the death penalty for a robbery gone bad -- no I do not agree with that. The death penalty should be reserved for the "sickos" of the world.


Interesting discussion.

I don't believe in life sentences because the death penalty exists. If a person is never going to contribute to society again, there is no need for them. If you're not going to trust a person to be out of prison ever again, just kill them and be done with it.

Prison should be more than a form of punishment, it should be a form of rehabilitation, for release back into society. If there is no chance of that, I see no reason to afford people to live there forever.

Kill `em all. Let God sort them out

It's how God himself has always done things. At least that's how it was when I last read the Bible.