Joe's Mock 4 Draft

[cowboyjoe]

1st Round-Cowboys Trade down to 15th slot, to Miami, in exchange get the Dolphins 1st, 3rd and 6th picks.
1st Cam Jordan Defensive End | California | SR Cameron Jordan
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 283 | 40-Time: 4.80

Official Bio
Strengths:
• Ideal size with extremely long arms / huge hands
• Excellent athleticism along with NFL bloodlines
• Good balance and agility as well as quick feet
• Displays a varied repertoire of pass rush moves
• A reliable tackler who will deliver the knockout hit
• Will disrupt passing lanes and bat down passes
• Active with good range and does nice job in pursuit
• Showcases violent hands and can get off of blocks
• Strong, powerful and stout at the point of attack
• Competitive and aggressive with a non-stop motor
• Polished technician and understands angles / leverage
• Fantastic football IQ, instincts and awareness
• Able to play multiple positions in different schemes
• Tough and a hard worker who strives for excellence
• Productive and durable with lots of quality experience


Was a three-year starter for the Bears --- Named 1st Team All-Pac-10 in 2010 --- Father, Steve, played tight end in the NFL for 13 seasons and made 6 Pro Bowl's --- Arrested in 2008 for suspicion of driving under the influence and served a one game suspension --- Extremely versatile and could project as a base end capable of moving inside to defensive tackle on occassion in a 4-3 scheme or to a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 front --- Underrated prospect who, like his former teammate Tyson Alualu, could end up being selected much earlier than most realize --- Isn't flashy and may never be a dynamic sack artist in the pros but should be a solid starter for a very long time.

Cowboys like the Packers did, a few years back, Trade back up in 1st round, either with Eagles or New England, and get Gabe Carmini OT, who falls due to injury and not being able to play in senior bowl.

Cowboys give up their 4th rounder to get OT Gabe Carmini
1st Rounder Trade back up:
Offensive Tackle | Wisconsin | SR Gabe Carimi
Height: 6-7 | Weight: 327 | 40-Time: 5.30

Official Bio
Strengths:
• Prototypical size with long arms and large hands
• Solid in pass pro with nimble feet to slide / mirror
• Fairly stout at point and gets good push in run game
• Decent strength and delivers a violent initial punch
• Polished technician with great hand use and footwork
• Intelligent with excellent instincts and awareness
• Very tough and willingly plays through pain / injuries
• Mature, hard working and is respected by teammates
• A ton of experience against top-notch competition


Last name is pronounced "kuh-REE-mee" --- A four-year starter and team captain for the Badgers --- Named 1st Team All-Big Ten in 2009 and 2010 --- 1st Team All-American in 2010 --- Won the 2010 Outland Trophy as the nation's top interior lineman --- The Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year in 2010 --- A civil and environmental engineering major who was named Academic All-Big Ten four straight years --- Very committed to Jewish faith and fasts during Yom Kippur --- Missed three games with a right knee injury in 2008 --- Missed half of fall camp in 2009 with a right knee injury --- Suffered left shoulder (AC joint) injury in 2009 --- Actually replaced Joe Thomas, the #3 overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, at left tackle in Madison --- Overrated blocker with all the tools to be a starter at the next level but is not the elite blindside protector and early first rounder that some have made him out to be.

2nd Round 40th spot;
Cowboys trade down to San Francisco, since QB Locker is there, and get the 49ers 4th rounder and a 7th rounder

With 49ers 45th pick Cowboys take Ben Ijalana OT/OG --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Offensive Tackle | Villanova | SR Ben Ijalana
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 320 | 40-Time: 5.36

Official Bio
Strengths:
• Excellent bulk w/ long arms and large hands
• Superb athleticism, quickness and agility
• Fantastic strength and extremely powerful
• Stout at the point of attack and can anchor
• Gets an outstanding push in the run game
• Nimble feet to slide laterally and mirror
• Displays the ability to recover when beat
• Stuns opponents with violent initial punch
• Capable of locking on and sustaining blocks
• Range to work in space and at second level
• Tough and will play through pain / injuries
• Hard worker and still has considerable upside
• Extremely durable with a ton of experience


Last name is pronounced "EYE-JA-LAWN-A" --- Was a four-year starter (53 consecutive games) for the Wildcats --- Named 1st Team All-CAA in 2008, 2009 and 2010 --- A 1st Team FCS All-American as a junior and senior --- Helped lead Villanova to the FCS National Championship as a junior --- Parents are Nigerian-born --- Was also a champion wrestler in high school --- Primarily a soccer player as a youth and didn't begin focusing on football until the age of 14 --- Played left tackle entire college career but could also project to right tackle or perhaps move inside to offensive guard at the next level --- Similar in many ways to Vladimir Ducasse, who was selected in the second round of the 2010 NFL Draft by the New York Jets out of Massachusetts --- Would arguably be in the first round conversation if he was an inch taller and hailed from a "big-time" program --- Still raw and will have to adjust to a leap in competition but is clearly the premier small school sleeper in this class and has the talent / physical tools to be a starter in the NFL.

3rd Rounder of Cowboys
Stefen Wisniewski Height: 6-3 | Weight: 306 | 40-Time: 5.30
Official Bio
Strengths:
• Extremely smart with elite instincts and awareness
• Polished technician with great hand use and footwork
• A top-notch understanding of positioning and angles
• Intense, competitive and plays with a nasty demeanor
• Quick with nice balance and able to adjust and recover
• Strong with a wide base and stout at the point of attack
• Great toughness and gets a nice push in the run game
• Tenacious and will lock on and doggedly sustains blocks
• Ability to pull, play in space and reach the second level
• Versatile and is capable of playing multiple positions
• A hard worker and leader with outstanding bloodlines
• Durable with a ton of experience versus top competition


A three-year starter and team captain for the Nittany Lions --- Named 2nd Team All-Big Ten in 2008 and 1st Team in 2009 and 2010 --- Also garnered some All-American notice in 2010 --- Father, Leon, was a defensive lineman at Penn St. and a 2nd Round pick in 1982 NFL Draft, playing four seasons with the Baltimore / Indianapolis Colts --- Uncle, Steve, was a two-time 1st-Team All-American at Penn St. and an eight-time All-Pro offensive guard during NFL career with the Oakland / Los Angeles Raiders --- A secondary education major who excelled in the classroom with a near-4.0 GPA and was a three-time Academic All-American --- Could project to either center or offensive guard and has extensive experience at both --- Certainly isn't very flashy or the most impressive physical specimen but compensates with first-rate intangibles and there is virtually no chance he won't be successful at the next level --- Will win a starting job and enjoy a long NFL career

Note, If Stefen is gone, Cowboys take Center
Kristofer O’Dowd USC 6-5 300 5.20

The Cowboys now have filled their offensive line for years to come, with 3 key offensive linemen. I know its alittle too much possibly, but wanted to have one draft fixing our offensive line.

3rd Rounder from Miami cowboys take S Deunte Williams who falls due to injury.
Deunta Williams North Carolina 6-2 215 4.55


4th Rounder, Cowboys Trade up alittle and take
QB Colin Kaepernick Nevada 6-6 225 4.43
A four-year starter and team captain for the Wolfpack --- Named 1st Team All-WAC and WAC Offensive Player of the Year in 2010 --- Also ran for 4,090 yards (6.9 avg.) and 59 touchdowns --- Only player in college football history to rush for 4,000 yards and throw for 9,000 yards in a career --- Only player to ever rush for 1,000 yards and throw for 2,000 yards in three consecutive seasons --- Broke Ian Johnson's Western Athletic Conference record for career rushing touchdowns --- Tied Eric Crouch's NCAA record for most career rushing touchdowns by a quarterback --- Selected by the Chicago Cubs in the 43rd Round of the 2009 MLB Amateur Draft --- Could also get some looks as a wide receiver prospect --- Played in Chris Ault's "Pistol Offense", which padded stats but didn't really prepare him for the next level --- Better college player than pro prospect and is still more of an athlete than quarterback --- Intriguing developmental signal caller who is far from a finished product and will require some work and patience.

Cowboys again make a move here, trading Marion Barber for a 4th rounder and future 6th, guaranteed on improving to a 5th of playing time, and stats for Barber.

4th Rounder from Miami or some other team for Barber, Cowboys take
Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College 6' 4" 235

5th Rounder Cowboys trade their 7th rounder to move up alittle and take
Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 5" 340

With Cowboys own 5th rounder, Cowboys take
Henry Hynoski* FB Pittsburgh 6' 2" 260

Note, I wanted to take Owen Mareic FB from Stanford, but with him being undecided about going pro or playing football, I wanted a player with his heart in the right place and we do need a big bruising fullback.

6th Rounder Cowboys take
Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215 or
Alex Green RB Hawaii 6' 2" 230

7th Rounder Cowboys take
Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175
or Ryan Whalen WR Stanford 6' 2" 205

Note, I know thats 11 players, and I see Cowboys only taking 9 with possible trades of players or trading down, but wanted to get creative in this one. Again, I will listen to what Stephen Jones will say about this team, players either cut or traded possibly and then I will predict if Cowboys take that many players or not. But dont forget this, a few years back, I had the Cowboys taking 12 to 13 players and you all laughed at me. But who was right? The Cowboys did take 12 players in the 2009 draft. With what Jerry Jones told the players, your being evaluated the rest of these 8 games after he fired Wade, I do think some changes are coming, so possibly more draft picks taken or players traded for picks etc... So, toss it around see what you think, agree with or disagree. I really see Cowboys only taking 2 offensive linemen in this draft high in the draft, but they may surprise me, given status of Columbo, L Davis, and Holland.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I don't know about all of the trading involved.

However if you give me those players you had listed...I will be a happy camper.

[cowboyjoe]

Me too buddy, I think the Cowboys could possibly come away with 9 of those players, by trades, etc... I am going on what Jerry Jones said that some players were being evaluated, and if you remember Jimmy Johnson used to make trades during the draft. I am going on what Jimmy told Jason possibly about trading players, and draft picks and getting players he wanted through the draft and getting rid of players he doesnt want.

That with Woicik now, he will tell Jason what players arent working out like they should etc, possibly lazy etc.. and Jason will trade some of those players or get some in the draft.

Like if we do trade back up to get Carmini, I dont see us taking 2 OTs, but I put there, just in case Jason Garrett surprises me, and fixes our offensive line for years. I think Cowboys will take a OT, a OG/C for sure in this draft.

And a fullback, with possibly a big bruising fullback and a QB like Kap.... or Dalton.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Nice easy read

[RS12]

Wisnewski wont be there in round 3. Like the Kaepernick pick alot.

[TheCount]

Couldn't follow all the trades but like the players selected even though you did go for the Triangle of Evil with us drafting a FB, HB AND Kicker.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

4th Rounder, Cowboys Trade up alittle and take
QB Colin Kaepernick Nevada 6-6 225 4.43
A four-year starter and team captain for the Wolfpack ---e.

Cowboys again make a move here, trading Marion Barber for a 4th rounder and future 6th, guaranteed on improving to a 5th of playing time, and stats for Barber.


I dont know which part is sillier. Taking Isiah Stanback part 2, or someone giving up more than a hot pocket for Barber

[rash]

i was a little confused with all that trading going on. but if you can somehow land carimi in the first by trading up and not hafta give up the ranch i would be pretty happy

[respectdatstar]

Can somebody explain the Carimi trade-up? I don't understand how it happened. Dallas traded a 4th and got back into the 1st?

[TheFinisher]

You targeted all the right players (except Jordan, I'm more down on him then most) but I don't think it's realistic where you have us getting a few of them or the trades we're pulling off.

We'd be lucky if Wiz fell to us in the 2nd let alone 3rd.

The latest Kenrick Ellis will go is to us at the top of rd 4, but he could go as high as late 2nd.

I like the Ijalana, Deunta and Herzlich picks, kudos for those three.

[The Realist]

What just happened.

[cowboyjoe]

Can somebody explain the Carimi trade-up? I don't understand how it happened. Dallas traded a 4th and got back into the 1st?

what you do is this, use a Draft Trade Value Chart, from the points needed to move up from 2nd 40th to 28th is 155 points, that equals out to a 4th rounder.

If you traded up to the eagles, which they have a higher pick, its even more, most like a 3rd and 5th.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php



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The chart teams use when making trades, giving a numerical value to each draft choice.


Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7
1 3,000 33 580 65 265 97 112 129 43 161 27 193 14.2
2 2,600 34 560 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 26.6 194 13.8
3 2,200 35 550 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 26.2 195 13.4
4 1,800 36 540 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 25.8 196 13
5 1,700 37 530 69 245 101 96 133 39.5 165 25.4 197 12.6
6 1,600 38 520 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 25 198 12.2
7 1,500 39 510 71 235 103 88 135 38.5 167 24.6 199 11.8
8 1,400 40 500 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 24.2 200 11.4
9 1,350 41 490 73 225 105 84 137 37.5 169 23.8 201 11
10 1,300 42 480 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 23.4 202 10.6
11 1,250 43 470 75 215 107 80 139 36.5 171 23 203 10.2
12 1,200 44 460 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 22.6 204 9.8
13 1,150 45 450 77 205 109 76 141 35.5 173 22.2 205 9.4
14 1,100 46 440 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 21.8 206 9
15 1,050 47 430 79 195 111 72 143 34.5 175 21.4 207 8.6
16 1,000 48 420 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 21 208 8.2
17 950 49 410 81 185 113 68 145 33.5 177 20.6 209 7.8
18 900 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 20.2 210 7.4
19 875 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 32.6 179 19.8 211 7
20 850 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32.2 180 19.4 212 6.6
21 800 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 31.8 181 19 213 6.2
22 780 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31.4 182 18.6 214 5.8
23 760 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 18.2 215 5.4
24 740 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 30.6 184 17.8 216 5
25 720 57 330 89 145 121 52 153 30.2 185 17.4 217 4.6
26 700 58 320 90 140 122 50 154 29.8 186 17 218 4.2
27 680 59 310 91 136 123 49 155 29.4 187 16.6 219 3.8
28 660 60 300 92 132 124 48 156 29 188 16.2 220 3.4
29 640 61 292 93 128 125 47 157 28.6 189 15.8 221 3
30 620 62 284 94 124 126 46 158 28.2 190 15.4 222 2.6
31 600 63 276 95 120 127 45 159 27.8 191 15 223 2.3
32 590 64 270 96 116 128 44 160 27.4 192 14.6 224 2

[cowboyjoe]

You targeted all the right players (except Jordan, I'm more down on him then most) but I don't think it's realistic where you have us getting a few of them or the trades we're pulling off.

We'd be lucky if Wiz fell to us in the 2nd let alone 3rd.

The latest Kenrick Ellis will go is to us at the top of rd 4, but he could go as high as late 2nd.

I like the Ijalana, Deunta and Herzlich picks, kudos for those three.

i understand that, some mocks have ellis going anywhere from 4th to 5th

and some draft mocks have Wiz going top of 3rd round

so thats why i went that way, if we can get say 7 to 9 of these players, i would be happy

[AsthmaField]

what you do is this, use a Draft Trade Value Chart, from the points needed to move up from 2nd 40th to 28th is 155 points, that equals out to a 4th rounder.


Yeah, but Joe... you still kept the 2nd rounder, I think. What you proposed was using your 2nd plus a 4th to move up to 28th overall. However, you just gave up a 4th and kept the 2nd (40th overall), which you then traded to san fran and moved to 45th overall.

So it looks like you traded a 4th for a 1st, straight up. That's cool with me... but I don't think any team will want to do it.

[cowboyjoe]

Note, I made a shorter version;
Joe's Mock 4 Draft
________________________________________
1st Round-Cowboys Trade down to 15th slot, to Miami, in exchange get the Dolphins 1st, 3rd and 6th picks.
1st Cam Jordan Defensive End | California | SR Cameron Jordan
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 283 | 40-Time: 4.80



Was a three-year starter for the Bears --- Named 1st Team All-Pac-10 in 2010 --- Father, Steve, played tight end in the NFL for 13 seasons and made 6 Pro Bowl's --- Arrested in 2008 for suspicion of driving under the influence and served a one game suspension --- Extremely versatile and could project as a base end capable of moving inside to defensive tackle on occassion in a 4-3 scheme or to a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 front --- Underrated prospect who, like his former teammate Tyson Alualu, could end up being selected much earlier than most realize --- Isn't flashy and may never be a dynamic sack artist in the pros but should be a solid starter for a very long time.

Cowboys like the Packers did, a few years back, Trade back up in 1st round, either with Eagles or New England, and get Gabe Carmini OT, who falls due to injury and not being able to play in senior bowl. It cost 155 points to move up from 2nd round to 28th pick patriots own. That’s a 4th rounder by Draft Trade Value Chart.

Cowboys give up their 4th rounder to get OT Gabe Carmini
1st Rounder Trade back up:
Offensive Tackle | Wisconsin | SR Gabe Carimi
Height: 6-7 | Weight: 327 | 40-Time: 5.30


Last name is pronounced "kuh-REE-mee" --- A four-year starter and team captain for the Badgers --- Named 1st Team All-Big Ten in 2009 and 2010 --- 1st Team All-American in 2010 --- Won the 2010 Outland Trophy as the nation's top interior lineman --- The Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year in 2010 --- A civil and environmental engineering major who was named Academic All-Big Ten four straight years --- Very committed to Jewish faith and fasts during Yom Kippur --- Missed three games with a right knee injury in 2008 --- Missed half of fall camp in 2009 with a right knee injury --- Suffered left shoulder (AC joint) injury in 2009 --- Actually replaced Joe Thomas, the #3 overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, at left tackle in Madison --- Overrated blocker with all the tools to be a starter at the next level but is not the elite blindside protector and early first rounder that some have made him out to be.

2nd Round 40th spot;
Cowboys trade down to San Francisco, since QB Locker is there, and get the 49ers 4th rounder and a 7th rounder

With 49ers 45th pick Cowboys take Ben Ijalana OT/OG --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Offensive Tackle | Villanova | SR Ben Ijalana
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 320 | 40-Time: 5.36


Last name is pronounced "EYE-JA-LAWN-A" --- Was a four-year starter (53 consecutive games) for the Wildcats --- Named 1st Team All-CAA in 2008, 2009 and 2010 --- A 1st Team FCS All-American as a junior and senior --- Helped lead Villanova to the FCS National Championship as a junior --- Parents are Nigerian-born --- Was also a champion wrestler in high school --- Primarily a soccer player as a youth and didn't begin focusing on football until the age of 14 --- Played left tackle entire college career but could also project to right tackle or perhaps move inside to offensive guard at the next level --- Similar in many ways to Vladimir Ducasse, who was selected in the second round of the 2010 NFL Draft by the New York Jets out of Massachusetts --- Would arguably be in the first round conversation if he was an inch taller and hailed from a "big-time" program --- Still raw and will have to adjust to a leap in competition but is clearly the premier small school sleeper in this class and has the talent / physical tools to be a starter in the NFL.

3rd Rounder of Cowboys
Stefen Wisniewski Height: 6-3 | Weight: 306 | 40-Time: 5.30



A three-year starter and team captain for the Nittany Lions --- Named 2nd Team All-Big Ten in 2008 and 1st Team in 2009 and 2010 --- Also garnered some All-American notice in 2010 --- Father, Leon, was a defensive lineman at Penn St. and a 2nd Round pick in 1982 NFL Draft, playing four seasons with the Baltimore / Indianapolis Colts --- Uncle, Steve, was a two-time 1st-Team All-American at Penn St. and an eight-time All-Pro offensive guard during NFL career with the Oakland / Los Angeles Raiders --- A secondary education major who excelled in the classroom with a near-4.0 GPA and was a three-time Academic All-American --- Could project to either center or offensive guard and has extensive experience at both --- Certainly isn't very flashy or the most impressive physical specimen but compensates with first-rate intangibles and there is virtually no chance he won't be successful at the next level --- Will win a starting job and enjoy a long NFL career

Note, If Stefen is gone, Cowboys take Center
Kristofer O’Dowd USC 6-5 300 5.20



3rd Rounder from Miami cowboys take S Deunte Williams who falls due to injury.
Deunta Williams North Carolina 6-2 215 4.55


4th Rounder, Cowboys Trade up alittle and take (this is the 4th rounder from 49ers)
QB Colin Kaepernick Nevada 6-6 225 4.43
A four-year starter and team captain for the Wolfpack --- Named 1st Team All-WAC and WAC Offensive Player of the Year in 2010 --- Also ran for 4,090 yards (6.9 avg.) and 59 touchdowns --- Only player in college football history to rush for 4,000 yards and throw for 9,000 yards in a career --- Only player to ever rush for 1,000 yards and throw for 2,000 yards in three consecutive seasons --- Broke Ian Johnson's Western Athletic Conference record for career rushing touchdowns --- Tied Eric Crouch's NCAA record for most career rushing touchdowns by a quarterback --- Selected by the Chicago Cubs in the 43rd Round of the 2009 MLB Amateur Draft --- Could also get some looks as a wide receiver prospect --- Played in Chris Ault's "Pistol Offense", which padded stats but didn't really prepare him for the next level --- Better college player than pro prospect and is still more of an athlete than quarterback --- Intriguing developmental signal caller who is far from a finished product and will require some work and patience.

Cowboys again make a move here, trading Marion Barber for a 4th rounder and future 6th, guaranteed on improving to a 5th of playing time, and stats for Barber.

4th Rounder from Miami or some other team for Barber, Cowboys take
Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College 6' 4" 235

5th Rounder Cowboys trade their 7th rounder to move up alittle and take
Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 5" 340

With Cowboys own 5th rounder, Cowboys take
Henry Hynoski* FB Pittsburgh 6' 2" 260

Note, I wanted to take Owen Mareic FB from Stanford, but with him being undecided about going pro or playing football, I wanted a player with his heart in the right place and we do need a big bruising fullback.

6th Rounder Cowboys take
Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215 or
Alex Green RB Hawaii 6' 2" 230

7th Rounder Cowboys take
Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175
or Ryan Whalen WR Stanford 6' 2" 205

[cowboyjoe]

Yeah, but Joe... you still kept the 2nd rounder, I think. What you proposed was using your 2nd plus a 4th to move up to 28th overall. However, you just gave up a 4th and kept the 2nd (40th overall), which you then traded to san fran and moved to 45th overall.

So it looks like you traded a 4th for a 1st, straight up. That's cool with me... but I don't think any team will want to do it.

yikes, I did do that didnt i

ok, my mock would be like this then;
Joe's Mock 4 Draft
________________________________________
1st Round-Cowboys Trade down to 15th slot, to Miami, in exchange get the Dolphins 1st, 3rd and 6th picks.
1st Cam Jordan
Defensive End | California | SR Cameron Jordan
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 283 | 40-Time: 4.80



Was a three-year starter for the Bears --- Named 1st Team All-Pac-10 in 2010 --- Father, Steve, played tight end in the NFL for 13 seasons and made 6 Pro Bowl's --- Arrested in 2008 for suspicion of driving under the influence and served a one game suspension --- Extremely versatile and could project as a base end capable of moving inside to defensive tackle on occassion in a 4-3 scheme or to a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 front --- Underrated prospect who, like his former teammate Tyson Alualu, could end up being selected much earlier than most realize --- Isn't flashy and may never be a dynamic sack artist in the pros but should be a solid starter for a very long time.

Cowboys like the Packers did, a few years back, Trade back up in 1st round, either with Eagles or New England, and get Gabe Carmini OT, who falls due to injury and not being able to play in senior bowl. It cost 155 points to move up from 2nd round to 28th pick patriots own. That’s a 4th rounder by Draft Trade Value Chart.

Cowboys give up their 4th rounder and 2nd to get OT Gabe Carmini
1st Rounder Trade back up:
Offensive Tackle | Wisconsin | SR Gabe Carimi
Height: 6-7 | Weight: 327 | 40-Time: 5.30


Last name is pronounced "kuh-REE-mee" --- A four-year starter and team captain for the Badgers --- Named 1st Team All-Big Ten in 2009 and 2010 --- 1st Team All-American in 2010 --- Won the 2010 Outland Trophy as the nation's top interior lineman --- The Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year in 2010 --- A civil and environmental engineering major who was named Academic All-Big Ten four straight years --- Very committed to Jewish faith and fasts during Yom Kippur --- Missed three games with a right knee injury in 2008 --- Missed half of fall camp in 2009 with a right knee injury --- Suffered left shoulder (AC joint) injury in 2009 --- Actually replaced Joe Thomas, the #3 overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, at left tackle in Madison --- Overrated blocker with all the tools to be a starter at the next level but is not the elite blindside protector and early first rounder that some have made him out to be.

If Cowboys dont trade up and take Carmini, they keep their 2nd rounder and take
Cowboys take Ben Ijalana OT/OG --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


3rd Rounder of Cowboys
Stefen Wisniewski Height: 6-3 | Weight: 306 | 40-Time: 5.30
Note, If Stefen is gone, Cowboys take Center
Kristofer O’Dowd USC 6-5 300 5.20


A three-year starter and team captain for the Nittany Lions --- Named 2nd Team All-Big Ten in 2008 and 1st Team in 2009 and 2010 --- Also garnered some All-American notice in 2010 --- Father, Leon, was a defensive lineman at Penn St. and a 2nd Round pick in 1982 NFL Draft, playing four seasons with the Baltimore / Indianapolis Colts --- Uncle, Steve, was a two-time 1st-Team All-American at Penn St. and an eight-time All-Pro offensive guard during NFL career with the Oakland / Los Angeles Raiders --- A secondary education major who excelled in the classroom with a near-4.0 GPA and was a three-time Academic All-American --- Could project to either center or offensive guard and has extensive experience at both --- Certainly isn't very flashy or the most impressive physical specimen but compensates with first-rate intangibles and there is virtually no chance he won't be successful at the next level --- Will win a starting job and enjoy a long NFL career




3rd Rounder from Miami cowboys take S Deunte Williams who falls due to injury.
Deunta Williams North Carolina 6-2 215 4.55
Deunte falls some due to injury, so cowboys make trade with new England again, move down, and get an extra 4th.

4th Rounder, Cowboys Trade up alittle and take (this is the 4th rounder from NewEngland) Cowboys take that 4th in trade with, move back up in 4th round, with lower pick and take Kaepernick.

QB Colin Kaepernick Nevada 6-6 225 4.43
A four-year starter and team captain for the Wolfpack --- Named 1st Team All-WAC and WAC Offensive Player of the Year in 2010 --- Also ran for 4,090 yards (6.9 avg.) and 59 touchdowns --- Only player in college football history to rush for 4,000 yards and throw for 9,000 yards in a career --- Only player to ever rush for 1,000 yards and throw for 2,000 yards in three consecutive seasons --- Broke Ian Johnson's Western Athletic Conference record for career rushing touchdowns --- Tied Eric Crouch's NCAA record for most career rushing touchdowns by a quarterback --- Selected by the Chicago Cubs in the 43rd Round of the 2009 MLB Amateur Draft --- Could also get some looks as a wide receiver prospect --- Played in Chris Ault's "Pistol Offense", which padded stats but didn't really prepare him for the next level --- Better college player than pro prospect and is still more of an athlete than quarterback --- Intriguing developmental signal caller who is far from a finished product and will require some work and patience.

Cowboys again make a move here, trading Marion Barber for a 4th rounder and future 6th, guaranteed on improving to a 5th of playing time, and stats for Barber.

4th Rounder from Miami or some other team for Barber, Cowboys take
Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College 6' 4" 235

5th Rounder Cowboys trade their 7th rounder to move up alittle and take
Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 5" 340

With Cowboys own 5th rounder, Cowboys take
Henry Hynoski* FB Pittsburgh 6' 2" 260

Note, I wanted to take Owen Mareic FB from Stanford, but with him being undecided about going pro or playing football, I wanted a player with his heart in the right place and we do need a big bruising fullback.

6th Rounder Cowboys take
Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215 or
Alex Green RB Hawaii 6' 2" 230

7th Rounder Cowboys take
Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175
or Ryan Whalen WR Stanford 6' 2" 205

Been putting on some vehicle inspection stickers so got interrupted from making my mocks and proof reading, sorry about that.

[Duane]

I like the players but it's too much like Madden with the trades.

[cowboyjoe]

I like the players but it's too much like Madden with the trades.

I understand, but I just get the feeling, that the Cowboys are going to trade some players this year, due to some not performing like they should have. Now, with Woicik in fold too, he will ween out the pretenders and wantabes to in the weight room. So, some players will be traded from that too.

I just get the feeling that Jason Garrett isnt going to put up with laid back attitude from some players. And he will get rid of them like Jimmy Johnson did.

[AsthmaField]

That works better now Joe.

I like Jordan, but I really like the Carimi pick. I think he would slide right in at RT and provide a bookend with Free for years to come.

[Zaxor]

I like the players but it's too much like Madden with the trades.

I agree nothing wrong with the players...but most teams do not like to deal unless they are getting something sweet for it.... The draft chart is fine but trades are not likely to happen unless you are willing to give more than the chart worth....so I just can't see it happening.

[cowboyjoe]

That works better now Joe.

I like Jordan, but I really like the Carimi pick. I think he would slide right in at RT and provide a bookend with Free for years to come.

thanks buddy, i had missed that, for calling it to my attention, been putting on vehicle inspection stickers right and left, so i get interruped some,

thats why i went back up in 1st round to get Carimi. Kinda like the packers when they traded back up to get clay matthews a few years back in 1st round, after they got their big NT

That Carimi could be our stud ROT for years, with Jordan being our pass rusher to help ware and spencer, along with ratliff,

so we would be getting 2 key stud offensive and defensive linemen in 1st round,

like madden always said, you win football games first in the trenches

[AKATheRake]

A report about Cam Jordan comes out and everyone thinks he's the pick.

Tired of this trading down junk. We suffered a 6-10 season with a roster like this and we're gonna trade out of the top 10?

If anything trade up and get an X factor. Bottom 31% of the league season and we're looking for solid players? Not X factors? Unreal!

I know we're better than our record but top 10 doesn't happen often unless you're the Bills, Browns, Bengals or Lion's.

Get that future defensive superstar.

Offensively, this isn't the draft in the first round.

We need to improve that defense more than anything anyways.

The rest of the players I wish we could get them all with those picks. Won't happen.

Peterson
Fairley
Dareus

or bust.

Trade up, whatever. But get a beast.

Going to be more meat out there in FA than people think.

[AsthmaField]

A report about Cam Jordan comes out and everyone thinks he's the pick.

Tired of this trading down junk. We suffered a 6-10 season with a roster like this and we're gonna trade out of the top 10?

If anything trade up and get an X factor. Bottom 31% of the league season and we're looking for solid players? Not X factors? Unreal!

I know we're better than our record but top 10 doesn't happen often unless you're the Bills, Browns, Bengals or Lion's.

Get that future defensive superstar.

Offensively, this isn't the draft in the first round.

We need to improve that defense more than anything anyways.

The rest of the players I wish we could get them all with those picks. Won't happen.

Peterson
Fairley
Dareus

or bust.

Trade up, whatever. But get a beast.

Going to be more meat out there in FA than people think.

I am with you 100%.

Fairley.

He is going to be dominant for the next decade, and I'd love for it to be as a Cowboy.

[tyke1doe]

I don't know about all of the trading involved.

However if you give me those players you had listed...I will be a happy camper.

^ This ^

I like the beef on the offensive line and another potential playmaker on the defense.

[cowboyjoe]

A report about Cam Jordan comes out and everyone thinks he's the pick.

Tired of this trading down junk. We suffered a 6-10 season with a roster like this and we're gonna trade out of the top 10?

If anything trade up and get an X factor. Bottom 31% of the league season and we're looking for solid players? Not X factors? Unreal!

I know we're better than our record but top 10 doesn't happen often unless you're the Bills, Browns, Bengals or Lion's.

Get that future defensive superstar.

Offensively, this isn't the draft in the first round.

We need to improve that defense more than anything anyways.

The rest of the players I wish we could get them all with those picks. Won't happen.

Peterson
Fairley
Dareus

or bust.

Trade up, whatever. But get a beast.

Going to be more meat out there in FA than people think.

I understand what your saying about trading up and i agree, but that wont happen, why?

cost too much, Just to get to the 5th overall pick in first round, will cost you a 2nd rounder

I dont see the cowboys doing that, possibly be willing to give up a 3rd or 4th, like they did to get dez bryant, but the cowboys just moved up 3 spots to get dez

cowboys wont trade that 2nd rounder, unless its to move back up in the 1st round with a 4th rounder like with new england if carmini is there the big OT

Draft Trade Value Chart
to move from 9th slot to 5th costs 400 points, which equals out to a 2nd rounder

And the cowboys used the draft value trade chart, when they traded with new england last year,

I heard Belicheater talking about it when he was talking to the cowboys for trading up on the phone best i remember, on a media broadcast

I feel that Peterson, Fairley, Dareus will be gone by the time we pick

Now, I do agree with you, if cam newton or the missouri qb is sitting there when were picking, washington, vikings and miami may all want him, and we can then get value for him

Point wise, say if we traded with miami, value to trade down for their 15th pick to get our 9th pick, would be a 3rd and 6th

now if we can show them, say the skins, vikings and dolphins 3 teams are willing to trade with us to get cam newton, then you could sweeten the deal some

but teams do use the draft trade value chart

[johnnyd]

going to be tough to get picks out of miami since they dont have a 2nd rounder(brandon marshall trade) i cant see them trading away a 3rd as well, If anything i think they will trade back to recoup picks JMO .

Im thinkig the vikings are the team we will most likley deal with i know it's not a big drop but we could still do ok if they fall in love with one of the qb's pick up extra picks AND screw the skins ? i'll take it!

[cowboyjoe]

if cam newton is there, they will trade up if they can get him, from what ive heard

[eightysiX]

definitely a fan of the wheeling and dealing, but if your basing all your trades off of the chart our 2nd and 4th will only get us to the very top of the 2nd.
490+84=574 in between pick 33-34.

edit* and im definitely on the side that believes barber isnt going to get us anything in a trade.

[casmith07]

I dont know which part is sillier. Taking Isiah Stanback part 2, or someone giving up more than a hot pocket for Barber

Dumb comment, considering Kaepernick would be taken as a Quarterback, not a Bill Parcells WR project.

[cowboyjoe]

definitely a fan of the wheeling and dealing, but if your basing all your trades off of the chart our 2nd and 4th will only get us to the very top of the 2nd.
490+84=574 in between pick 33-34.

edit* and im definitely on the side that believes barber isnt going to get us anything in a trade.

no, by my trade of moving up in 1st to get to the 28th pick that the patriots own,

its 155 points,thats worth a 4th rounder, adding in the 2nd rounder
we have the 40th pick in 2nd round

to move from 40th to 28th pick you need 155 points, that equals a 4th round pick thrown in with the 2nd rounder

[cowboyjoe]

going to be tough to get picks out of miami since they dont have a 2nd rounder(brandon marshall trade) i cant see them trading away a 3rd as well, If anything i think they will trade back to recoup picks JMO .

Im thinkig the vikings are the team we will most likley deal with i know it's not a big drop but we could still do ok if they fall in love with one of the qb's pick up extra picks AND screw the skins ? i'll take it!

thats the beauty of it, some team swoops in and steals the qb maybe cam newton they want if he is stil there, and the vikings sweeten deal to trade up to get him, leaving skins out in the cold, shocked not knowing who to pick

:D

[eightysiX]

no, by my trade of moving up in 1st to get to the 28th pick that the patriots own,

its 155 points,thats worth a 4th rounder, adding in the 2nd rounder
we have the 40th pick in 2nd round

to move from 40th to 28th pick you need 155 points, that equals a 4th round pick thrown in with the 2nd rounder

Yeah i see where your trying to trade to, but looking at the chart you posted our 4th rounder is only worth 84 points, and dont we have the 41st pick in the 2nd? 9th pick of every round? If your saying we need 155 points to move into the 1st that looks like a mid to late 3rd rounder to me.

Dont get me wrong i like what your trying to do, but i believe if were the ones trying to get back a trade down than were going to be the ones usually giving up a little more. to me giving up a 4th and our 2nd would be a steal for us and i would be on board in a second.

[cowboyjoe]

Yeah i see where your trying to trade to, but looking at the chart you posted our 4th rounder is only worth 84 points, and dont we have the 41st pick in the 2nd? 9th pick of every round? If your saying we need 155 points to move into the 1st that looks like a mid to late 3rd rounder to me.

Dont get me wrong i like what your trying to do, but i believe if were the ones trying to get back a trade down than were going to be the ones usually giving up a little more. to me giving up a 4th and our 2nd would be a steal for us and i would be on board in a second.

No, we have the 40th pick in 2nd round, its not all the 9th pick in each round

we swap due to same record with several teams after first round

and my draft chart says 155 points to move up from 40th to 28th, thats worth a 4th rounder

you can go back and look on 2nd page, and view the draft chart for picks i posted for someone

some draft value charts differ in points

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

click on the chart above to view points needed
I have an old chart I use that is similar to what Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones used to use and talk about;

[funkytown]

Kaepernick as Stanback part 2??? I dont think so....

[ejthedj]

Silly draft.

Too many trades. Too many oline. We won't take a QB in 4th with McGee showing something. We HAVE to draft one maybe two CBs.

[eightysiX]

No, we have the 40th pick in 2nd round, its not all the 9th pick in each round

we swap due to same record with several teams after first round

and my draft chart says 155 points to move up from 40th to 28th, thats worth a 4th rounder

you can go back and look on 2nd page, and view the draft chart for picks i posted for someone

some draft value charts differ in points

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

click on the chart above to view points needed
I have an old chart I use that is similar to what Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones used to use and talk about;

oh alright well thats what i see different than im using the chart you just posted. It shows the first pick in round 4 being worth only 112 points. I understand we need the 155 points to move back up into the 1st, so the old chart that you say your using must be different from the one you posted.

[cowboyjoe]

Silly draft.

Too many trades. Too many oline. We won't take a QB in 4th with McGee showing something. We HAVE to draft one maybe two CBs.

Not necessarily so, from reports from some zoners at the senior bowl
Jason Garrett was all over the Nevada QB Kae..... and other QB Dalton

if you look at the cowboys last few years, players they look at first, and players they bring in for a visit, the cowboys draft about half through the draft,

say cowboys draft 8 players

at least 3-4 of them are players they have looked at with strong interest

last year, first player cowboys looked at for a visit was Dez Bryant

along with an OT too

i agree about the trades, but i get the sneaky suspicion that after woicik gets through working with the players in limited offseason and woicik sees what players are in shape etc and want to work, that jason will trade, cut or release other players that dont measure up

jimmy johnson did this first 2 years he was here

for sure

if you look at things jason is doing, some of it is similar to what jimmy johnson did in getting coaches, discipine to the team etc..

again just my opinion and your entitled to yours

i just see cowboys making 1 to 3 trades for this draft, either by trading down or up and with a player or too that jason doesnt want to keep

[cowboyjoe]

oh alright well thats what i see different than im using the chart you just posted. It shows the first pick in round 4 being worth only 112 points. I understand we need the 155 points to move back up into the 1st, so the old chart that you say your using must be different from the one you posted.

it is, again, most of the draft value board points vary, not to much but alittle

i dont have the link to the old one jimmy johnson used to use, but its on the internet somewhere

ive saved it through the years

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Not necessarily so, from reports from some zoners at the senior bowl
Jason Garrett was all over the Nevada QB Kae..... and other QB Dalton




Joe dont read too much into that. Garrett saw the whole field, thats his job. We arent taking a QB. Romo has plenty of years left, Kitna has 1 more year left, and McGee was a 4th rounder groomed to be the backup. We arent going to draft an athlete/QB/Pat White player.

You would think when they took McGee that Garrett was heavily onvolved being he was a career backup and he would be working w/ the guy a lot as former OC.

McGee has looked pretty good too considering he was a project.

[Bigdog]

would be jumping for joy if this happens. Absoutely estactic. Only thing I would change would be Kaepernick (qb from NV) jsut because I do not think we need a qb yet. This would be a A+ draft grade.

[jjktkk]

Joe dont read too much into that. Garrett saw the whole field, thats his job. We arent taking a QB. Romo has plenty of years left, Kitna has 1 more year left, and McGee was a 4th rounder groomed to be the backup. We arent going to draft an athlete/QB/Pat White player.

You would think when they took McGee that Garrett was heavily onvolved being he was a career backup and he would be working w/ the guy a lot as former OC.

McGee has looked pretty good too considering he was a project.

That "Pat White" guy is 6' 6", very un Pat White like, as far as size. But I agree with the Coyboys not drafting a qb this year.

[dbair1967]

We wont be drafting a QB, especially early

[Nightshade]

I dont know which part is sillier. Taking Isiah Stanback part 2, or someone giving up more than a hot pocket for Barber

hot pocket :laugh1:

... and Marion Barber is your handle?!?!! :lmao2:

[cowboyjoe]

we will see zoners, remember some of you told me, we wont have 12 picks in the draft for 2009, but we did

not saying the qb will be Ka...... from nevada, but could be dalton qb and he could go from 2nd round to 4th

so we will see

why do i say this, think about this
will there be any great qbs in 2012 draft, dont think so,
next, how old is kitna, and when did brad johnson get too old, 38 i think
how old is tony romo, 31 this year i think

so i think jason garrett could be getting ready to possibly snag a qb that he thinks might be our future besides mcgee

remember green bay takes qbs almost every year

[hipfake08]

thats the beauty of it, some team swoops in and steals the qb maybe cam newton they want if he is stil there, and the vikings sweeten deal to trade up to get him, leaving skins out in the cold, shocked not knowing who to pick

:D

so what's to say the Browns, 49'ers or Titans don't do a deal with the Redskins and bet the Vikings to Cam.
Or for that matter deal direct with the Browns, 49'ers or Titans and leave us out in the cold.

Cam could move up on the charts if he has good pro day and combin workouts.

And I think Newton is a better fit with the Vikings than anyone else.

[cowboyjoe]

thats true, but just in case, newton is around when we pick, and miami/skins/vikings all call, think we could get some good draft picks and players

say if all 3 wanted newton, then as ive been told, when 2 or more teams want same player in the draft, you can get more draft picks in the deal

[hipfake08]

thats true, but just in case, newton is around when we pick, and miami/skins/vikings all call, think we could get some good draft picks and players

say if all 3 wanted newton, then as ive been told, when 2 or more teams want same player in the draft, you can get more draft picks in the deal

No problem there. What do those teams have in picks to help them to get that one player.

Yes on Vikings the thier round pick would be nice.

But what do you do if Washington want our pick...

Do we deal with them? Say their first and second to do the deal....

Deal with the Devil????