Jimmer Freddette of BYU

[Hostile]

How do you score 52 points in a college game and only take 1 free throw? I realize that he was obviously hot if he did that, but if I am New Mexico's Coach I am trying to rattle that guy and putting him on the line.

He shot the ball 37 times.

Unreal performance.

[9of11]

I was at that game. He's an unbelievable shooter, no feet set half the time when he shot the ball but made it look easy and i cant stand YBU but you have to love to watch him play. Since they got rid of theyre big guy in the middle for having sex they havent been the same team. I dont think they will go far in the tournament as they have no inside presence. but watching Jimmer play, WOW...what a shooter!

[ajk23az]

Funny thing is that he averages 7.5 free throws per game and shoots them at a clip of 90%. It's probably better, they didnt send him to the line because he would have put up 60 on them.

[CanuckCowboysFan]

He's a good college player...reminds me of a Reddick and Monta Ellis, but he's going to flop big time in the NBA. Someone will believe in the hype and select him high, bit he'll be nothing more then a role player. Can't create his own shot, especially at the next level. NBA defenders would abuse this kid.

[Hostile]

Funny thing is that he averages 7.5 free throws per game and shoots them at a clip of 90%. It's probably better, they didnt send him to the line because he would have put up 60 on them.He probably would have, but I still foul the guy to try and make him tentative to take a shot.

No way he can do that to San Diego State today without Davies in the middle.

[Hostile]

He's a good college player...reminds me of a Reddick and Monta Ellis, but he's going to flop big time in the NBA. Someone will believe in the hype and select him high, bit he'll be nothing more then a role player. Can't create his own shot, especially at the next level. NBA defenders would abuse this kid.
I don't disagree with this. Seen it too many times. Adam Morrison is an example. So is the Curry kid. Unless they have blown up and I haven't seen it on Sportscenter because I don't even know what teams that are on.

[Temo]

I don't disagree with this. Seen it too many times. Adam Morrison is an example. So is the Curry kid. Unless they have blown up and I haven't seen it on Sportscenter because I don't even know what teams that are on.

Curry is the real thing, albeit in a system (Golden State) that accommodates his strengths. Regardless, dude can play in the NBA.

Morrison's still hanging around, but is all but washed out of the NBA. He did somehow pick up a ring as the 12th guy on last year's Lakers team though (didn't play more than a few minutes in the playoffs).

Anyway, I don't think Jimmer is the next Morrison, but I do think his ceiling is something like Steph Curry. So he has a chance to be a solid NBA player, but he won't be a star. And if he fails, he won't fail as hard as Morrison.

[Temo]

Looking at the 2009 draft, you could make an argument that Curry was the 3rd best player taken, after Blake Griffin and Tyreke Evans. Some might put Brandon Jennings ahead of Curry, but I wouldn't. And guys like James Harden, Ricky Rubio, and DeMar DeRozan have the upside to maybe eventually be better.

[WV Cowboy]

How do you score 52 points in a college game and only take 1 free throw? I realize that he was obviously hot if he did that, but if I am New Mexico's Coach I am trying to rattle that guy and putting him on the line.



This reminded me of a kid that played high school ball locally several years ago.

He didn't play for our high school but I still loved to watch him play. He was a guard, scored a lot, but still got everyone else involved.

Anyway the first time we played them he scored 35 and they won. So the next game our coach took the same approach that Hos is talking about. He wasn't very big so our team played physical with him, roughed him up to intimidate him.

He made 24 of 27 free throws, and a few other buckets, scored 35 again and beat us again.

:laugh2:

[Hostile]

This reminded me of a kid that played high school ball locally several years ago.

He didn't play for our high school but I still loved to watch him play. He was a guard, scored a lot, but still got everyone else involved.

Anyway the first time we played them he scored 35 and they won. So the next game our coach took the same approach that Hos is talking about. He wasn't very big so our team played physical with him, roughed him up to intimidate him.

He made 24 of 27 free throws, and a few other buckets, scored 35 again and beat us again.

:laugh2:Classic.

Yeah, I know Freddette might have continued scoring like crazy. I just think it's crazy to have that many points and 1 free throw. Almost like they coddled him and let him run amok.

[WV Cowboy]

Classic.

Yeah, I know Freddette might have continued scoring like crazy. I just think it's crazy to have that many points and 1 free throw. Almost like they coddled him and let him run amok.

When I watch Jimmer, and being a WVU fan, I always wonder what Huggins would do with him because he doesn't seem real interested in playing defense.

If you don't play defense for Huggins you don't play as much. Casey Mitchell was the player of the year in Jr. College two years ago. He is a scorer. But can't stay on the floor because he doesn't play defense well enough to suit Huggins.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I suspect that the Lobos didn't foul him because it was a pretty close game for the most part until the end. You figure that Freddette is a Guard and the Lobos lost there best defensive player and starting PG in Dairese Gary very early in the 2nd half. UNM is not deep at Guard to begin with so it's a problem to foul, especially if you've already lost your starter. You figure it was 47-42 at half so UNM was still very much in it at that point. It was a 62-58 game with less then 10 minutes to go. It wasn't till the end when UNM started fouling that BYU really extended. I just think that UNM probably figured that it was probably not the best idea to foul because of there personnel situation. Besides, Freddette is a pretty good foul shooter. He's an 87.1% FT shooter career at BYU. Over the last two years, he's 89.2 % FT shooter so I don't know that fouling him is a better option.

Anyway, Freddette is an excellent player and it's very difficult to beat a good team three times. I think you just gotta tip your hat to Freddette and the Cougars and move on.

[baj1dallas]

He's a good college player...reminds me of a Reddick and Monta Ellis, but he's going to flop big time in the NBA. Someone will believe in the hype and select him high, bit he'll be nothing more then a role player. Can't create his own shot, especially at the next level. NBA defenders would abuse this kid.

I dunno if that's a given. If you can shoot, you can play in the NBA. He won't have to create his own shot. Put him on a team with Kobe Bryant or say the Miami Heat and let him shoot wide open 3s for 7-10 minutes a night. Can't win a championship without role players. No comparison to Morrison or Curry who are totally different players and not near as effective shooting as Freddette.

[Hostile]

I suspect that the Lobos didn't foul him because it was a pretty close game for the most part until the end. You figure that Freddette is a Guard and the Lobos lost there best defensive player and starting PG in Dairese Gary very early in the 2nd half. UNM is not deep at Guard to begin with so it's a problem to foul, especially if you've already lost your starter. You figure it was 47-42 at half so UNM was still very much in it at that point. It was a 62-58 game with less then 10 minutes to go. It wasn't till the end when UNM started fouling that BYU really extended. I just think that UNM probably figured that it was probably not the best idea to foul because of there personnel situation. Besides, Freddette is a pretty good foul shooter. He's an 87.1% FT shooter career at BYU. Over the last two years, he's 89.2 % FT shooter so I don't know that fouling him is a better option.

Anyway, Freddette is an excellent player and it's very difficult to beat a good team three times. I think you just gotta tip your hat to Freddette and the Cougars and move on.Hey, you brought up Gary. Is he okay? I thought he was one of the better players I saw play all year. BTW, I feel like UNM got screwed and should be in the field of 64. The Mountain West was a top notch league this year.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Hey, you brought up Gary. Is he okay? I thought he was one of the better players I saw play all year. BTW, I feel like UNM got screwed and should be in the field of 64. The Mountain West was a top notch league this year.

Not good news I'm sorry to say. ACL, done for the season and probably for his BB career.

Won't cry over the NCAAs. Started 12-1 but closed out 11 and 11 over the last 22 games. Just can't do that. Gotta play stong down the stretch if you want to play in late March.

[DFWJC]

When I watch Jimmer, and being a WVU fan, I always wonder what Huggins would do with him because he doesn't seem real interested in playing defense.

If you don't play defense for Huggins you don't play as much. Casey Mitchell was the player of the year in Jr. College two years ago. He is a scorer. But can't stay on the floor because he doesn't play defense well enough to suit Huggins.
I like that about Huggins too.
Having said that, he would still play Jimmer all day long. He's a great college player and Huggins would have him tighten up on D for certain.

[Hostile]

Not good news I'm sorry to say. ACL, done for the season and probably for his BB career.

Won't cry over the NCAAs. Started 12-1 but closed out 11 and 11 over the last 22 games. Just can't do that. Gotta play stong down the stretch if you want to play in late March.I hate hearing that. I think he could have played PG in the NBA. Seemed like a really good kid too.

[Joe Realist]

I don't disagree with this. Seen it too many times. Adam Morrison is an example. So is the Curry kid. Unless they have blown up and I haven't seen it on Sportscenter because I don't even know what teams that are on.


They are finesse players who are not able to handle the physical play of the NBA. Jimmer will be another one as well.

[CanuckCowboysFan]

I dunno if that's a given. If you can shoot, you can play in the NBA. He won't have to create his own shot. Put him on a team with Kobe Bryant or say the Miami Heat and let him shoot wide open 3s for 7-10 minutes a night. Can't win a championship without role players. No comparison to Morrison or Curry who are totally different players and not near as effective shooting as Freddette.


You'll see. Come talk to me in a few years. He'll be another JJ Redick or Jason Kapono. That is his absolute ceiling. Personally, I think he'll flop though.

You can't compare him to Curry, Curry is a completely different player. The only similarities are the fact that they both go to small schools, though I don't know if you can consider BYU a small school anymore. Curry was a better shooter, could drive, create his own shot etc. Great player. Freddette is a pure shooter. Nothing more.

[JBell523]

You'll see. Come talk to me in a few years. He'll be another JJ Redick or Jason Kapono. That is his absolute ceiling. Personally, I think he'll flop though.

You can't compare him to Curry, Curry is a completely different player. The only similarities are the fact that they both go to small schools, though I don't know if you can consider BYU a small school anymore. Curry was a better shooter, could drive, create his own shot etc. Great player. Freddette is a pure shooter. Nothing more.

He can't create his own shot?

That right there tells me you haven't seen him play.

[CanuckCowboysFan]

He can't create his own shot?

That right there tells me you haven't seen him play.

Please, don't tell me what I have and haven't seen.

Off the dribble, no. He can create space and get his shot off in tight spaces, but he won't be able to do that at the next level. NBA defenders would physically abuse him. Like I said, he's nothing more then a role player. Jason Kapono.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I hate hearing that. I think he could have played PG in the NBA. Seemed like a really good kid too.

Yeah, pretty good player. It's unfortunate for him. You hear it all the time but it's true. That's why you work to get the education.

[WV Cowboy]

They are finesse players who are not able to handle the physical play of the NBA. Jimmer will be another one as well.

He grew up playing against prison teams, .. I think he will be fine.

[WV Cowboy]

I like that about Huggins too.
Having said that, he would still play Jimmer all day long. He's a great college player and Huggins would have him tighten up on D for certain.

Probably, .. but Mitchell is absolutely Huggins best scorer, no one else is close, and there are times he sits and watches. (after getting an earful from Huggins)

Huggins team won 20 games in the Big East, was the #6 seed in the BE tournament, and a 5 seed in the Big Dance.

Even though none of his players were on the 1st, 2nd or 3rd team Big East.

He should be coach of the year.

But he hasn't recruited very well since coming to WVU. Most of his success has been with Beilein's kids.

I do think he made all of those kids better players, but Beilein did recruit them.

[JBell523]

Please, don't tell me what I have and haven't seen.

Off the dribble, no. He can create space and get his shot off in tight spaces, but he won't be able to do that at the next level. NBA defenders would physically abuse him. Like I said, he's nothing more then a role player. Jason Kapono.

:lmao2: @ Kapono.

So you're saying Fredette will be nothing more than a spot up shooter? Just stop. Fredette is 10 times the athlete Kapono is. Dude got recruited to Penn St. as a WR back in high school.

I'm not saying he's going to be great, but he can give a team some instant O off the bench. He definitely as the ability to be in the same mold as Ben Gordon/Jason Terry/& Marcus Thornton.

[Hostile]

Freddette creates shots off the dribble and has a nasty crossover move. It is his sheer guts as a shooter that is amazing though. Once he crosses half court get a guy on him or he will pull up and shoot.

I do not think he can be an NBA star, but he will make some team better. Bet on that. He's a perfect fit for a team that has someone like Kobe or Carmelo that draws attention. Kick it to him and he will sink the shot. Guard him too close and Kobe or Carmelo get a one on one where they have the advantage.

Years ago Detroit had a player, Vinny Johnson, that they called the Microwave. He came off the bench, got hot fast, and lit teams up. No reason at all Freddette can't do something like that.

No he is not a defender, but leave him open for 3 and he will sink it. Steve Kerr, John Paxson, Craig Hodges and a lot of other player have made decent careers hitting the deep ball and making teams pay.

[Temo]

I dunno if that's a given. If you can shoot, you can play in the NBA. He won't have to create his own shot. Put him on a team with Kobe Bryant or say the Miami Heat and let him shoot wide open 3s for 7-10 minutes a night. Can't win a championship without role players. No comparison to Morrison or Curry who are totally different players and not near as effective shooting as Freddette.

Stephen Curry is one of the best shooters in the NBA.