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K-Mart
03-03-2005, 09:23 PM
Just wondering why everyone is so high on Peterman being a starter. Did you guys watch him in the pre-season games? He looked like a 3rd round run blocker and an undrafted free agent in terms of his pass blocking. My thought is that he will be nothing but a reserve for the remainder of his career with Dallas since we seem to always have a QB in the pocket that can't run to save his life (with the exception of Carter) and we all know how that turned out. He will get our QB's killed!
Just wondering why everyone is so high on Peterman being a starter. Did you guys watch him in the pre-season games? He looked like a 3rd round run blocker and an undrafted free agent in terms of his pass blocking. My thought is that he will be nothing but a reserve for the remainder of his career with Dallas since we seem to always have a QB in the pocket that can't run to save his life (with the exception of Carter) and we all know how that turned out. He will get our QB's killed!
I tend to agree. There have been some high praises and hopes for Peterman around here lately. I hope he pans out as well, but he looked like garbage in preseason.
jobberone
03-03-2005, 09:29 PM
Some of these guys need a year or so to adjust to the big game. Also wasn't he injured somewhat?
Hostile
03-03-2005, 09:29 PM
Just wondering why everyone is so high on Peterman being a starter. Did you guys watch him in the pre-season games? He looked like a 3rd round run blocker and an undrafted free agent in terms of his pass blocking. My thought is that he will be nothing but a reserve for the remainder of his career with Dallas since we seem to always have a QB in the pocket that can't run to save his life (with the exception of Carter) and we all know how that turned out. He will get our QB's killed!:welcome: to the forum.
I like him because in college he was nasty. My favorite kind of lineman. He was injured last year. I'll cut him some slack for that. BP speaks well of him.
K-Mart
03-03-2005, 09:32 PM
I'm talking about before he got injured. 3 pre-season games, playing against 4-7 round picks and he looked terrible. My TIVO was getting a workout in slow mo 'cause I couldn't believe someone could get beat so badly!
big dog cowboy
03-03-2005, 09:32 PM
He came in out of shape and not ready for the pro game. As a rookie, he wasn't even expected to contribute much. Give him another off season and I believe you will see a big difference in preseason. Remember the 3 year rule for rookies we are supposed to use when grading draft picks???????
Eskimo
03-03-2005, 09:35 PM
I agree that Peterman looked like absolute garbage out there. Some of that has to be mitigated by him playing with a cast on a broken bone in his arm. Nevertheless, there is no excuse for him coming to camp so woefully out of shape. If he wants to have a successful career, he will need to take his conditioning more seriously.
I still hope that he can become LA's heir apparent. It will make things a lot easier and cheaper.
AdamJT13
03-03-2005, 09:37 PM
So a guy who struggles in one aspect of his game during preseason as a rookie will never be a starter? Please. He might or might not develop, but to try making that judgement based on a few preseason games as a rookie is ridiculous, if you ask me.
K-Mart
03-03-2005, 09:39 PM
Thank you for the welcome. Just can't believe a mid round draft pick could come into camp out of shape and if he did you'd think Big Bill would make sure he got his butt in shape. His knock was pass blocking and they weren't kidding. Agree on the 3 year rule but if he doensn't improve a whole lot in pass blocking he won't last pass 3 years or ever have a chance of starting, like some people expected him to do this year.
TheEnigma
03-03-2005, 09:51 PM
As wierd as this may sound, I believe Rivera was brought (as opposed to someone else) because of Peterman and Gurode. Both of those guys could turn into something and I think that Rivera will not only serve as a starter on our line, but a mentor to the younger guys. I know some of you guys don't like the age factor in this years free agents, but often times the younger guys learn more from a fellow player than they do the coaches. In the press conference Rivera was talking about how he expects his positive habits to rub off on the rest of the line, and maybe that right there will improve the play of Peterman and Gurode.
Sonny Koufax
03-03-2005, 10:28 PM
I am a LSU season ticket holder, and I really believe that Peterman will develop into a very good player.
He's a mauler with a mean streak. He does need to work on pass protection, but how many rookie linemen come in with the full package? Peterman started at TE and DE early in his career at LSU, before becoming a two-time All-SEC performer and All-American. Give him some time, and I really think he'll be fine.
Peterman60
03-03-2005, 10:40 PM
Peterman is a mf. PLayed very well at LSU. He's going to be the evental replacement of LA or Rivera.
speedkilz88
03-03-2005, 10:57 PM
Peterman has the similar strengths and weaknesses to that of Rivera when he came out. Mauler in the running game but limited mobility. These are the types that BP loves and has success with.
AMERICAS_FAN
03-04-2005, 12:39 AM
Can Peterman play RT in the NFL, or do his measurables prohibit thAt?
AF
SuspectCorner
03-04-2005, 12:53 AM
I'm talking about before he got injured. 3 pre-season games, playing against 4-7 round picks and he looked terrible. My TIVO was getting a workout in slow mo 'cause I couldn't believe someone could get beat so badly!
he was a rookie. believe it or not many rookies don't immediately impact the team that drafted them. especially the ones who get injured in TC or preseason. i remember thinking what a wasted pick al johnson was. ta-da! starting center the next season. give the kid some time before ya write him off completely.
and was'nt peterman also the player that made the linecall on that go-ahead TD sneak by romo?
Smith22
03-04-2005, 12:56 AM
Can Peterman play RT in the NFL, or do his measurables prohibit thAt?
AF
I think he is more suited to be a guard. His weakness is pass protection, and he isn't much of a athlete if you know what I mean. More of a grinder. Keep him on the inside and protect him while he gets time to develop.
So a guy who struggles in one aspect of his game during preseason as a rookie will never be a starter? Please. He might or might not develop, but to try making that judgement based on a few preseason games as a rookie is ridiculous, if you ask me.
No, he may pan out and I hope he does. However, I would be uncomfortable counting on him to start next year judged on his performance last preseason.
Of course, starting him isn't the plan for this year anyway, but I will still like to see another guard prospect brought in at some point. Rivera and Allen aren't spring chickens.
Hopefully, he follows the Al Johnson rehab program and makes some big strides this year.
AsthmaField
03-04-2005, 09:08 AM
Personally, I think the guy is a player. He's strong at the point of attack and a very good run blocker. Let him learn and heal this year and I can very easily see him taking over for Larry Allen this time next year.
At the very least, he'll provide quality depth this season.
JrGaf
03-04-2005, 09:09 AM
how did al Johnson look his first pre-season? Exactly
conner01
03-04-2005, 09:10 AM
I'll Hold Judgement Till He Is Actually In A Game
Hollywood Henderson
03-04-2005, 09:16 AM
The 2nd season is often when players make the biggest leap forward...
We have a new Oline coach, I hope he can build this unit into a strenght!
Crown Royal
03-04-2005, 09:16 AM
Peterman is a powerful, mean runblocking guard. I would hate to face him if I were playing 1 tech, because the guy strikes me as just mean spirited.
He does have an issue with overextending and getting lost on the first move, which definitely limits his pass blocking ability. He has great potential though, and I fully expect him to improve in his pass protection.
Just a note - not often mentioned, but OLinemen often take a few years of maturity before you see them become a force, sometimes up to 5 years! This is not necessarily years of playing, but often they ride the bench, play STs a bit, and mature in their late 20s. Kinda like a QB, but fat.
This is why I like Rivera - he buy our young linemen time to mature into quality players, while giving us dominant interior line play.
JackMagist
03-04-2005, 09:17 AM
Luckily we have LA and now Rivera to play guard and we will not have to depend on Peterman. I don't know if he will develop or not but now he has the time to do so and before we have to depend on him we should know if he can handle it or not. I'm not ready to write him off after 3 preseason games in which he was still learning the offensive system and line calls. Plus with his injury I am especially glad that he will have more time to recover. Maybe he will turn out to be a bust but I'll give him the benefit of a doubt.
K-Mart
03-04-2005, 09:37 AM
For a guy that needs a lot of work with pass protection, tearing up his knee has already put him one or two steps behind since foot work is key. Not that I don't want him to be a player, he just has a lot of work to do. Hopefully he has the same dedication as Al Johnson.
Next_years_Champs
03-04-2005, 09:53 AM
As wierd as this may sound, I believe Rivera was brought (as opposed to someone else) because of Peterman and Gurode. Both of those guys could turn into something and I think that Rivera will not only serve as a starter on our line, but a mentor to the younger guys. I know some of you guys don't like the age factor in this years free agents, but often times the younger guys learn more from a fellow player than they do the coaches. In the press conference Rivera was talking about how he expects his positive habits to rub off on the rest of the line, and maybe that right there will improve the play of Peterman and Gurode.
I agree with you 100%, I don't think it sounds weird at all, Rivera as much as said that he was here to teach those young players how to prepare.
He talked about watching film, reading every scout report he could find and even calling other players who had played against his opponent. He said he would ask them if that player got tired or took plays off etc.
He also spoke of how his preparation affected his teammates in Green Bay, ultimately all of them started doing the same things resulting in a very good offensive line.
I don't think it sounds weird at all, I think it was very much a factor in why they went after Marco in the first place.
wileedog
03-04-2005, 10:01 AM
how did al Johnson look his first pre-season? Exactly
Actually, he looked prtty good. If you remember Ron Wolf was in camp two years ago and one of the first players he said that caught his eye was Johnson. Al was named the starter about 3 weeks into camp.
Doesn't mean anything one way or the other about Peterman, every player adjusts to the league differently, but Al did look strong coming into camp.
That being said, a LOT of lineman take at least a year or two to get up to spped. Most are only 22-24 years old, and are still growing and putting mass on their frame. The first off-season with an NFL team, working out full time as opposed to dealing with school, etc, is critical, and usually amounts to a big improvement their second year if they are any good.
I'll hold out judgement on Peterman (and Rodgers) til we see more of them this year.
notherbob
03-04-2005, 10:20 AM
So a guy who struggles in one aspect of his game during preseason as a rookie will never be a starter? Please. He might or might not develop, but to try making that judgement based on a few preseason games as a rookie is ridiculous, if you ask me.
I fully agree, especially with O-linemen just coming out of college. It usually takes them a couple of years to become effective because it takes them that long to learn the tricks the older, more experienced behemoths they face who are usually far bigger and better than what they faced in college. I, too, was impressed with his heads-up call to Romo about the D-lineman and going to the QB sneak from 5-6 yards out and scoring.
Again I say, "Patience, Grasshoppers."
cwbys4evr
03-04-2005, 10:23 AM
Ya know, there's a reason why we have such things as coaches, camps, preseason, practice, etc. It's to improve your players.
RoundRock Fan
03-04-2005, 10:27 AM
You can not base a judgement of 1 preseason for a rookie. especially for an OL. there are so many adjustments that OL have to make when transitioning from the College level into the NFL. If you look at the majority of OL in the NFL the best ones aren't the ones with the most talent, they are the ones who have that attitude. Peterman has that, he just needs to learn. as for Rogers thats a different story.
Just wondering why everyone is so high on Peterman being a starter. Did you guys watch him in the pre-season games? He looked like a 3rd round run blocker and an undrafted free agent in terms of his pass blocking. My thought is that he will be nothing but a reserve for the remainder of his career with Dallas since we seem to always have a QB in the pocket that can't run to save his life (with the exception of Carter) and we all know how that turned out. He will get our QB's killed!
And when Carter ran out of the pocket, he threw an interception.
how did al Johnson look his first pre-season? Exactly
Good by all accounts until he got hurt.
Chocolate Lab
03-04-2005, 12:07 PM
It's a good question, because Peterman didn't look all that great last preseason.
I think the hope for him comes from the many little media blurbs the last few weeks claiming that the team (meaning Parcells) is very high on him.
BTW, I completely agree about Rivera coming in partly to mentor these guys. LA has the skins on the wall, but we all know how silent he is... He just doesn't have the personality to be much of a leader. Rivera sounds like he does.
Eddie
03-04-2005, 12:19 PM
Larry Allen looked horrid in his rookie pre-season and even got schooled a few times by Chad Hennings. Pretty sad, huh?
That's about how much you can take outta that !!!
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