Barry Bonds Guilty of Obstruction, No Jail Time Expected

[Hostile]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6347014

[Hoofbite]

Figures.

Guilty as can be and gets off the hook.

[Bonecrusher#31]

Dumb trial was a waste of tax payer money and time anyway. I'm glad the Feds lost this one.

[Hoofbite]

Dumb trial was a waste of tax payer money and time anyway. I'm glad the Feds lost this one.

How is it a waste?

The guy lied under oath.

If prosecuting him isn't a reasonable use of resources than there is no such thing.

[Joe Rod]

Bonds leads the Poster Boys for why you should cheat to get ahead (honorable mention to Mark McGuire, Manny and A-Roid). Major dollars paid, he broke baseball's most hallowed records that others set through natural talent and he never did jail time even though it is obvious he cheated. Forget the feds, this was a great job by MLB for turning the other way so these guys could bring fans back to the game of baseball.

Why the heck shouldn't these guys cheat?

[Sam I Am]

Oj 2.0

[Yeagermeister]

Bonds leads the Poster Boys for why you should cheat to get ahead (honorable mention to Mark McGuire, Manny and A-Roid). Major dollars paid, he broke baseball's most hallowed records that others set through natural talent and he never did jail time even though it is obvious he cheated. Forget the feds, this was a great job by MLB for turning the other way so these guys could bring fans back to the game of baseball.

Why the heck shouldn't these guys cheat?

Bonds, McGuire, and Sosa's HR records should be wiped off the books IMO

[Anjinsan]

Bonds leads the Poster Boys for why you should cheat to get ahead (honorable mention to Mark McGuire, Manny and A-Roid). Major dollars paid, he broke baseball's most hallowed records that others set through natural talent and he never did jail time even though it is obvious he cheated. Forget the feds, this was a great job by MLB for turning the other way so these guys could bring fans back to the game of baseball.

Why the heck shouldn't these guys cheat?

Because it's immoral.

[WV Cowboy]

Figures.

Guilty as can be and gets off the hook.

O.J. - murderer
Big Ben - rapist
Lawrence Taylor - pedophile

Two sets of rules.

[Sam I Am]

O.J. - murderer
Big Ben - rapist
Lawrence Taylor - pedophile

Two sets of rules.

Did Taylor end up getting off? (pun not intended ;) ) I know he went to court, but I didn't see the outcome.

[WV Cowboy]

Did Taylor end up getting off? (pun not intended ;) ) I know he went to court, but I didn't see the outcome.

Slap on the wrist.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-lawrencetaylorindicted

[Anjinsan]

Slap on the wrist.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-lawrencetaylorindicted

All he did was pay for a hooker. His only mistake was he didn't card her. Slap on the wrist was appropriate in this case. Legalized prostitution would benefit both parties as long as they're of age.

[ZeroClub]

I understand the larger context of the case, but still, federal prosecutors and the Justice Department should have bigger fish to fry than this ....

[Joe Rod]

Did Taylor end up getting off? (pun not intended ;) ) I know he went to court, but I didn't see the outcome.

:laugh2: I laughed!

[zrinkill]

All he did was pay for a hooker. His only mistake was he didn't card her. Slap on the wrist was appropriate in this case. Legalized prostitution would benefit both parties as long as they're of age.

:laugh2:

The more he posts the more he reveals.

[Anjinsan]

:laugh2:

The more he posts the more he reveals.

That goes both ways.

[joseephuss]

All he did was pay for a hooker. His only mistake was he didn't card her. Slap on the wrist was appropriate in this case. Legalized prostitution would benefit both parties as long as they're of age.

Someone could still be of age and be forced into prostitution. Legalizing prostitution doesn't solve the problem of sex slaves. Mutual consent has to play a part and that would be a difficult task for law enforcement to monitor.

[Anjinsan]

Someone could still be of age and be forced into prostitution. Legalizing prostitution doesn't solve the problem of sex slaves. Mutual consent has to play a part and that would be a difficult task for law enforcement to monitor.

Very true. But I would think that there would not be the need for illegal sex slaves to the extent there is now. Those caught doing that should be prosecuted to the fullest.

[big dog cowboy]

All I needed to see was the look on Bonds face to know he felt he got away with something.

[ABQCOWBOY]

According to the reports I heard, the jury was 11 to 1 for convicting him of purgry and steroid usage. The one juror who would not vote to convict him actually had decided to convict on Monday but when they left to go home, she changed her mind and on Tuesday.

[joseephuss]

Should he go to jail for using steroids and lying about it? I don't think so. He should be punished, but i just can't see it as worthy of jail time. I would say he should be punished by having his records stripped by MLB; however, MLB never really cared about Bonds or anyone else using steroids, so why should I. The whole thing is a farce and has been for years going on decades now.

[zrinkill]

Should he go to jail for using steroids and lying about it? I don't think so. He should be punished, but i just can't see it as worthy of jail time. I would say he should be punished by having his records stripped by MLB; however, MLB never really cared about Bonds or anyone else using steroids, so why should I. The whole thing is a farce and has been for years going on decades now.

I agree with all this

[BraveHeartFan]

SHOCKER!

No, seriously, I'm in total shock. I mean who saw that coming?

[CanadianCowboysFan]

How is it a waste?

The guy lied under oath.

If prosecuting him isn't a reasonable use of resources than there is no such thing.

they couldn't even prove he lied under oath

total waste of resources.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

In the end, since MLB didn't care enough about steroid use to have testing, why should anyone else care?

[Hoofbite]

Should he go to jail for using steroids

No

and lying about it?

Under oath, yes. Absolutely yes.

I don't think so. He should be punished, but i just can't see it as worthy of jail time. I would say he should be punished by having his records stripped by MLB; however, MLB never really cared about Bonds or anyone else using steroids, so why should I. The whole thing is a farce and has been for years going on decades now.

I agree that the MLB should just erase his numbers. He shouldn't be in any record books, not even with an asterisk.

[Hoofbite]

they couldn't even prove he lied under oath

total waste of resources.

Which is a complete sham. Him saying he didn't know what he was being given is about as believable as unicorns and leprechauns.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

No



Under oath, yes. Absolutely yes.



I agree that the MLB should just erase his numbers. He shouldn't be in any record books, not even with an asterisk.

do you erase Aaron's for using uppers?

[Hoofbite]

do you erase Aaron's for using uppers?

I haven't heard about this. Care to elaborate?

[Bonecrusher#31]

Should he go to jail for using steroids and lying about it? I don't think so. He should be punished, but i just can't see it as worthy of jail time. I would say he should be punished by having his records stripped by MLB; however, MLB never really cared about Bonds or anyone else using steroids, so why should I. The whole thing is a farce and has been for years going on decades now.

:bravo::bravo:

[Patton]

Before there was really any evidence that Bonds was a PED user, he was one of the league's better players. It's not like the PEDs MADE him good. He was already good, they just made him better. Not to excuse Bonds, but I feel like he became a PED user in response to lesser players like Sosa and Mark McGwire performing at the levels they did with the aid of PEDs. He was naturally a better player than those types and with the PEDs he outperformed them as well.

[Hoofbite]

Before there was really any evidence that Bonds was a PED user, he was one of the league's better players. It's not like the PEDs MADE him good. He was already good, they just made him better. Not to excuse Bonds, but I feel like he became a PED user in response to lesser players like Sosa and Mark McGwire performing at the levels they did with the aid of PEDs. He was naturally a better player than those types and with the PEDs he outperformed them as well.

Isn't that what they are supposed to do?

I don't think anyone believes they are performance creating drugs.

Dude's a sham.

Side note:

Anyone know anything about Aaron's use?

[joseephuss]

9.) Aaron hit 40 home runs with 96 RBIs and a .301 batting average in 1973 as a 39-year-old in his 20th professional season. In his autobiography “I Had a Hammer,” written with Lonnie Wheeler in 1991, Aaron admits to having experimented with “greenies” (amphetamines) while suffering through a rough stretch at the plate in 1968.

http://www.pressboxonline.com/story.cfm?id=2042

[Yeagermeister]

9.) Aaron hit 40 home runs with 96 RBIs and a .301 batting average in 1973 as a 39-year-old in his 20th professional season. In his autobiography “I Had a Hammer,” written with Lonnie Wheeler in 1991, Aaron admits to having experimented with “greenies” (amphetamines) while suffering through a rough stretch at the plate in 1968.

http://www.pressboxonline.com/story.cfm?id=2042

Greenies aren't going to alter your body like PEDs.

[joseephuss]

Greenies aren't going to alter your body like PEDs.

No, they sure won't. Still they can give a player a benefit over another player who doesn't take them. I didn't know Aaron experimented with them until CCF mentioned it in this thread and I did a quick google search.

[Maikeru-sama]

I hope Barry Bonds beats this case.

He is probably guilty of most of the things he is accused of but others cheated, lied in front of Congress and yet this guy is the only one facing any real jail time.

The media hated this guy because he was known to be a huge ****** and that was really what fueled most of this.

[Anjinsan]

I hope Barry Bonds beats this case.

He is probably guilty of most of the things he is accused of but others cheated, lied in front of Congress and yet this guy is the only one facing any real jail time.

The media hated this guy because he was known to be a huge ****** and that was really what fueled most of this.

He lied under oath just like Clemens who's day in court is coming. They both deserve jail time.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

He lied under oath just like Clemens who's day in court is coming. They both deserve jail time.

it was a kangaroo court, who cares

there are bigger fish to fry than Barry Bonds