Pure Gut feeling but FEEL strong Dallas will this in 1st Round:

[garyv]

Pure Gut feeling but FEEL strong Dallas will do this in 1st Round:

Trade Down; add a 2nd or 3rd Rounder and select Mike Pouncey

[Sam I Am]

Pure Gut feeling but FEEL strong Dallas will do this in 1st Round:

Trade Down; add a 2nd or 3rd Rounder and select Mike Pouncey

I don't like it for the simple fact that we need a tackle and tackles are harder to come by combined with the fact that there are several tackles to be had in *this* draft.

Good guards / centers prospects can be found in the second round, with tackles, your best bet is the first round.

Don't screw this up Jerry. Get a tackle in the first.

[TheCount]

Pure Gut feeling but FEEL strong Dallas will do this in 1st Round:

Trade Down; add a 2nd or 3rd Rounder and select Mike Pouncey

As long as we come away with a starting quality guard, RT and Kenrick Ellis, I really don't care about the rest of the draft. :laugh2:

[Gaede]

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Guard is almost as big a need as tackle, since Davis really sucked it up last year and his future here is short.

But I hope they don't take Pouncey because they have faith in Barron or Young as a starting tackle.

[TheCount]

I don't like it for the simple fact that we need a tackle and tackles are harder to come by combined with the fact that there are several tackles to be had in *this* draft.

Good guards / centers prospects can be found in the second round, with tackles, your best bet is the first round.

Don't screw this up Jerry. Get a tackle in the first.

Drafting a quality RT in the second round shouldn't be too difficult. As long as we don't get cute and draft a Brewster or Marten, it's certainly doable.

[dbair1967]

Unless Pouncey is being drafted in the mid to late 20's, I'd probably hate it.

He isnt an elite prospect. He's a decent one. He also doesnt have the talent for the C position his brother had.

RT is a far bigger need, and I like seevral of thsoe guys way more than Piouncey. Also like alot of the DE's more than Pouncey.

[Sam I Am]

Starting a quality RT in the second round shouldn't be too difficult. As long as we don't get cute and draft a Brewster or Marten, it's certainly doable.

I think the only highly potential tackle that I think could fall to the 2nd would be Solder and thats if a zone blocking team doesn't draft him in the first.

IMO, we need to grab, Smith, Sherrod, Castonzo, or Carimi in the first.

[Sam I Am]

Unless Pouncey is being drafted in the mid to late 20's, I'd probably hate it.

He isnt an elite prospect. He's a decent one. He also doesnt have the talent for the C position his brother had.

RT is a far bigger need, and I like seevral of thsoe guys way more than Piouncey. Also like alot of the DE's more than Pouncey.

I think he is smaller and has shorter arms to boot.

[Gaede]

I would probably be disappointed with Pouncey too. I mean, we have a really high draft pick for the first time in a while and we need to take advantage of that. Ending up with a guard drafted in the 20s (when there are very good ones available later in the draft) would be a real wasted opportunity.

[casmith07]

I think he is smaller and has shorter arms to boot.

They're twins.

[TheCount]

I think the only highly potential tackle that I think could fall to the 2nd would be Solder and thats if a zone blocking team doesn't draft him in the first.

IMO, we need to grab, Smith, Sherrod, Castonzo, or Carimi in the first.

Maybe.

I think Carpenter would make a great RT for us, and if not for having a mammoth already in Davis, I'd consider Cannon as a RT as well. Marcus Gilbert is another guy I think can play RT for us.

I'm not locked into HAVING to take a tackle in the first because the most important tackle position, LT, we have in Free, who we still need to resign.

[CrazyCowboy]

I would not be surprised as Dallas really likes him alot.....

[dbair1967]

Maybe.

I think Carpenter would make a great RT for us, and if not for having a mammoth already in Davis, I'd consider Cannon as a RT as well. Marcus Gilbert is another guy I think can play RT for us.

I'm not locked into HAVING to take a tackle in the first because the most important tackle position, LT, we have in Free, who we still need to resign.

Carpenter and Cannon are good fall-backs in my opinion too. Both have played LT, both can play RT and both can probably move inside to play RG or LG as well.

[Sam I Am]

They're twins.

Yet he is still smaller with shorter arms.

[supercowboy8]

Yet he is still smaller with shorter arms.

Mike Pouncey 2011 combine
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mike-pouncey?id=2495216
Florida 6'5 303 32 1/4 arms


Maurkice Pouncey 2010 combine
Florida 6'4 1/8 304 32 1/2 arms

[Sam I Am]

Mike Pouncey 2011 combine
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mike-pouncey?id=2495216
Florida 6'5 303 32 1/4 arms


Maurkice Pouncey 2010 combine
Florida 6'4 1/8 304 32 1/2 arms

Odd, he must have lost 14lbs before the combine, because was 318lbs.

I read a lot of comparisons of the two and they all said Mike was smaller with shorter arms. ...and definitely the lessor talented of the two brothers.

I still take Smith before I trade back for him.

[This is Our Year]

My gut feel is Peterson. I felt the same way about Dez last year and we traded up a few spots to get him. I have the same feel about PP this year.

[Sam I Am]

My gut feel is Peterson. I felt the same way about Dez last year and we traded up a few spots to get him. I have the same feel about PP this year.

I think PP is gone within the top 5 picks providing Buffalo doesn't draft Cam Newton. (I can't imagine Ron Rivera is that stupid) Even then, I actually think Denver grabs PP.

[supercowboy8]

Odd, he must have lost 14lbs before the combine, because was 318lbs.

I read a lot of comparisons of the two and they all said Mike was smaller with shorter arms. ...and definitely the lessor talented of the two brothers.

I still take Smith before I trade back for him.

you should probably stop reading scouting reports from those poeple then.

I think Maurkice is the better of the two but they ar the same build in every way. They are identical twins. Mike will be a solid pro OG but not a C.

[Sam I Am]

you should probably stop reading scouting reports from those poeple then.

I think Maurkice is the better of the two but they ar the same build in every way. They are identical twins. Mike will be a solid pro OG but not a C.
Ha! Thats funny.

[dbair1967]

you should probably stop reading scouting reports from those poeple then.

I think Maurkice is the better of the two but they ar the same build in every way. They are identical twins. Mike will be a solid pro OG but not a C.

They might look alike, but they dont play alike.

His brother was the far superior player.

[supercowboy8]

I think PP is gone within the top 5 picks providing Buffalo doesn't draft Cam Newton. (I can't imagine Ron Rivera is that stupid) Even then, I actually think Denver grabs PP.

Unless Rivera takes Dareus I don't see Denver taking PP.
Carolina might take Newton, you have to look at the money side of things too. Cam Newton can be alot more marketable for the Panthers. Rivera might not like Clausen and needs a new QB. If Carolina goes QB(Newton, Gabbert) then Denver goes Dareus. Buffalo depends on Carolina. If Carolina goes Newton then Buffalo goes Miller. If Carolina goes Gabbert or Dareus then Buffalo goes Newton.

Top 5 could look like
Newton
Dareus
Miller
Green
Gabbert

or

Dareus
Peterson
Newton
Green
Miller

or

Gabbert
Dareus
Newton
Green
Miller

[supercowboy8]

They might look alike, but they dont play alike.

His brother was the far superior player.

you should probably read the rest of my post where I said that.

[Sam I Am]

Unless Rivera takes Dareus I don't see Denver taking PP.
Carolina might take Newton, you have to look at the money side of things too. Cam Newton can be alot more marketable for the Panthers.

Winning is a hell of a lot more marketable than a single player is.

It would be absolutely ignorant to let a marketing person pick your draft choices.

[supercowboy8]

Winning is a hell of a lot more marketable than a single player is.

It would be absolutely ignorant to let a marketing person pick your draft choices.
Its not called a marketing person its called the owner who wants to see full stadiums and jersey sells.
Just got to think about that side of it. If they are sitting there saying #1 pick over all. 50 million gaurnteed, and we have Dareus as 1A on the board and Newton 1B who can make some of that money back for me.

[Bwareinrings94]

I think Pouncey would be a great pick and our our needs are all across the O line. There is real value in versatility and he was also great at center for Florida. The knock ws the shot gun snaps. If we can't cure that, then we need to fire the line coach.

[reddyuta]

I think we ignore the OL altogether in the first rd(rationalizing that its a weak draft for OL).

[Sam I Am]

I think we ignore the OL altogether in the first rd(rationalizing that its a weak draft for OL).

Considering the state of our OL, I think that would be the worst thing we could do if we stay at 9 or trade back. You must go OL. I don't think anyone else is worth it. Both need and talent wise if Smith is sitting at 9. The only other option in my mind would be trading up to grab someone even better.

[visionary]

i could live with 2 OL in the 1st in this draft (after trade down) more than taking PP. even if the OL are "just solid"

so any of

mid first: carimi/pouncey
trade back into late first: pouncey/sherrod/watkins

i this case we still have our own 2nd where we can go brandon harris or phil taylor or even trade down and pick up kendrik ellis in mid/late 2

this coupled with a mid/late pick 3rd up of d. williams (as FS/SS) and signing of huff rounds out our roster much better

we can pick up Ras-I dowling in 4th (if we went ellis or taylor in 2nd)

if we do this, our only real concern remains ILB which can be overcome if lee pans out this year

[UnoDallas]

i could live with 2 OL in the 1st in this draft (after trade down) more than taking PP. even if the OL are "just solid"

so any of

mid first: carimi/pouncey
trade back into late first: pouncey/sherrod/watkins

i this case we still have our own 2nd where we can go brandon harris or phil taylor or even trade down and pick up kendrik ellis in mid/late 2

this coupled with a mid/late pick 3rd up of d. williams (as FS/SS) and signing of huff rounds out our roster much better

we can pick up Ras-I dowling in 4th (if we went ellis or taylor in 2nd)

if we do this, our only real concern remains ILB which can be overcome if lee pans out this year


Ras is gone by the 2nd rd


6 #176 Chris White, ILB, Mississippi State 6-3 #240 - 2010: White compiled 13 starts and 110 total tackles to lead the Bulldogs. Plays downhill and able to shed blockers in the hole and make tackles. Great sense for the ball and quickness to get to the point of attack. Good lateral movement. Drops well in coverage. Hard worker and good leadership

by blowing our picks

[UnoDallas]

gawd I hope not - we need a OT way before we need a Pouncey