PS3 Network

[dez_for_prez]

Anyone else getting a screen saying that they are doing maintinance? I noticed yesterday.

[TheCowboy]

Which is why XBOX is better.

[Romo 2 Austin]

It was taken down by the hacking-group "Anonymous"

[63echo]

This has been going on for a couple days now and it's really starting to irritate me. I don't play on PSN much, but I want something out of the store really bad at the moment. :(

ANON denies taking out the PSN and Sony refuses to talk (like usual). Sony can't even give an estimate of when they might come back up. Whatever happened, it was bad.

[Ren]

It's been down since Wednesday, very annoying as i just bought Mortal Kombat on Wednesday and it's easter so i actually have time to play now, should have bought the 360 version even though i hate the 360 pad for fighting games :bang2:

[Hoofbite]

Just checked XBOX Live.

Still running guys.

:laugh1:

Just kidding........to anyone who's gonna get pissed.

[Cajuncowboy]

They've been hacked. And when it comes back on line, you shouldn't log back in for at least three hours after they are back up/

[TheDallasDon]

They've been hacked. And when it comes back on line, you shouldn't log back in for at least three hours after they are back up/

Whys that?

[Cajuncowboy]

Whys that?

It has something to do with ensuring the security once the system is back up. They have to do some testing with it live. At least that is what my wife said she read from Little Big Planet.

[ChldsPlay]

It was taken down by the hacking-group "Anonymous"

No, it was taken down by Sony. At least it was this time.

[Ren]

sounds like this is gonna take a while

From their blog

Latest Update for PSN/Qriocity Services Posted by Patrick Seybold // Sr. Director, Corporate Communications & Social MediaWe sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online.

Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security.

We thank you for your patience to date and ask for a little more while we move towards completion of this project. We will continue to give you updates as they become available.

[the kid 05]

No, it was taken down by Sony. At least it was this time.

correct the guys who brought it down before posted a vid sayin it wasn't them this time

[mldardy]

Which is why XBOX is better.
Hell no

[Garland powerplay]

heard a rumor someone hacked in thru call of duty or something.

[TheCowboy]

Hell no
Then how come XBOX live never is down and PSN is down more frequently?

[Garland powerplay]

I thought it was just me ,this is uncool. Why would they hack this? Is their any monetary value in doing this or is it just like sabotage vandalism like spray painting graffitti?

[Ren]

I thought it was just me ,this is uncool. Why would they hack this? Is their any monetary value in doing this or is it just like sabotage vandalism like spray painting graffitti?

Nerd fame i guess

[MonsterD]

I thought it was just me ,this is uncool. Why would they hack this? Is their any monetary value in doing this or is it just like sabotage vandalism like spray painting graffitti?

It was a protest for the way that they(Sony) handled the GeoHot jailbreaking. They wanted to punish GeoHot and everyone for downloading it. Sony got tight last couple of years eliminating features in the PS3 like multi-OS. So GeoHot decided to let people choose how they wanted to use it and undo any Sony updates.

[dez_for_prez]

Just checked XBOX Live.

Still running guys.

:laugh1:

Just kidding........to anyone who's gonna get pissed.


The cfl is still on too.

[ajk23az]

Then how come XBOX live never is down and PSN is down more frequently?

Have fun paying for online gaming?

[Hoofbite]

The cfl is still on too.

If XBOX Live is the CFL, does that make the PS3 Network the XFL?

[Hoofbite]

Have fun paying for online gaming?

What's this "Playstation Plus" I've heard about?

[ajk23az]

What's this "Playstation Plus" I've heard about?

From wikipedia:
PlayStation Plus is a paid PlayStation Network subscription service that was officially unveiled at E3 2010 by Jack Tretton, President and CEO of SCEA. Rumors of such service had been in speculation since Kaz Hirai's announcement at TGS 2009 of a possible paid service for PSN but with the current PSN service still available. Launched alongside PS3 firmware 3.40 and PSP firmware 6.30 on June 29, 2010, the paid-for subscription service provides users with enhanced services on the PlayStation Network, on top of the current PSN service which is still available with all of its features. These enhancements include the ability to have demos, game and system software updates download automatically to the PlayStation 3. Subscribers also get early or exclusive access to some betas, game demos, premium downloadable content and other PlayStation Store items as well as a free subscription to Qore. Users may choose to purchase either a one-year or a three-month subscription to PlayStation Plus.

Will still be able to play online for free.

[Hoofbite]

From wikipedia:


Will still be able to play online for free.

For now.

Pretty soon, Sony will go pay-to-play.

And if they don't, they'll likely scale back the services on the free side so much that you'll be forced to go to a pay plan.

Actually, I take that back. It may not be soon but I can almost assure you it will happen with the next console.

Both M$ and Sony take a beating on console sales at release. With used games eating into their potential profits, they have to find money in other areas. M$ has it figured out. $60/year from the millions of people who pay it brings in a lot of money.

[TheCowboy]

Have fun paying for online gaming?
Nothing good in life is free. AKA, Playstation Network.

You get in games faster, live never crashes, and more things to do on XBOX than PS3.

Have fun playing online! Oh wait....;)

[Heisenberg]

And it gets worse....

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/26/sony-provides-psn-update-confirms-a-compromise-of-personal-inf/

[RoyTheHammer]

Nothing good in life is free. AKA, Playstation Network.

You get in games faster, live never crashes, and more things to do on XBOX than PS3.

Have fun playing online! Oh wait....;)

:muttley:

[Heisenberg]

What gets me about the news that personal info was taken including potentially CC info is that they sat on it for how many days now?

Ugh.

I shoulda bought an Xbox.

[TheCowboy]

What gets me about the news that personal info was taken including potentially CC info is that they sat on it for how many days now?

Ugh.

I shoulda bought an Xbox.
Smart man right here ^ :D

[Ren]

Haven't used a CC on PSN for quite some time, the one i had on there has expired and i have never used the new # on there. Still not happy about someone potentially having my personal info but it could be a lot worse.
Not gonna buy anything on PSN with a CC again ever

[the kid 05]

Then how come XBOX live never is down and PSN is down more frequently?

the Xbox live servers do go down...just for maintenance and updates

[DIAF]

xbox live was mostly down for like 10 days back in fall of 2007.

[TheCowboy]

xbox live was mostly down for like 10 days back in fall of 2007.
Never happened since!

[TheCowboy]

the Xbox live servers do go down...just for maintenance and updates
Correct. :fact:

[the kid 05]

xbox live was mostly down for like 10 days back in fall of 2007.

negative it was like 4-5 and any one with gold membership got something free for that...what will playstation give you? a tighter security and shortly there after announcement that they will be moving to a pay to play type system to cover the cost of maintenance and to ensure an attack like this never happens again

[DIAF]

negative it was like 4-5 and any one with gold membership got something free for that...what will playstation give you? a tighter security and shortly there after announcement that they will be moving to a pay to play type system to cover the cost of maintenance and to ensure an attack like this never happens again

Oh, you a fortune teller?

Console fanboys really grate on my nerves.

Let's face it. If someone wants your personal info, they are going to get it no matter what. There hasn't been a security system created yet that can foil the most determined/skilled of cyber criminals. This wont be the last time PSN is hacked, and you can bet XBL is going to get it as well at some point.

[CowboyDan]

Console fanboys really grate on my nerves.

Yeah, seriously. :cool:

[the kid 05]

Oh, you a fortune teller?

Console fanboys really grate on my nerves.

Let's face it. If someone wants your personal info, they are going to get it no matter what. There hasn't been a security system created yet that can foil the most determined/skilled of cyber criminals. This wont be the last time PSN is hacked, and you can bet XBL is going to get it as well at some point.

Yes i am a console fanboy...forget the pc. i own all 3. It makes buisness sense to do what i said i think they will do. Nothing in life is free forever

[RoyTheHammer]

Oh, you a fortune teller?

Console fanboys really grate on my nerves.

Let's face it. If someone wants your personal info, they are going to get it no matter what. There hasn't been a security system created yet that can foil the most determined/skilled of cyber criminals. This wont be the last time PSN is hacked, and you can bet XBL is going to get it as well at some point.

Too funny. :laugh2:

[urface59]

360 ftw

[CowboyDan]

360 ftw

http://www.xbox360ringofdeath.co.uk/images/ringofdeath.JPG (http://www.xbox360ringofdeath.co.uk/images/ringofdeath.JPG)

[the kid 05]

http://www.xbox360ringofdeath.co.uk/images/ringofdeath.JPG (http://www.xbox360ringofdeath.co.uk/images/ringofdeath.JPG)

rather lose my console for a week then be a part of the largest online security breach in online history. the damages they are speculating is total of 24 BILLION dollars...

[CowboyDan]

rather lose my console for a week then be a part of the largest online security breach in online history. the damages they are speculating is total of 24 BILLION dollars...

I agree with you, but like I said, I never gave them my credit card info, so all they have is my email address, mailing address and PS login.

[BraveHeartFan]

Hell no

Good for you. Glad you like PSN and have fun with it and it's frequent down times.

At least in their defense they don't usually have down times like this.

I won't be surprised, in the least, if you're forced to pay to play on PSN soon after this hack though.


Have fun paying for online gaming?

Yep. Sure do.

Had mine for a year now with ZERO down time. I've never got one and not been able to go right online and play. Never had the system hacked and ruined for a week or more like PSN is unfortunately going through right now.

So, yeah, the 60 dollars over a years time doesn't hurt my feelings at all.


Nothing good in life is free. AKA, Playstation Network.

You get in games faster, live never crashes, and more things to do on XBOX than PS3.

Have fun playing online! Oh wait....;)

lol.

Ouch. That was mean. Funny, but mean.


What gets me about the news that personal info was taken including potentially CC info is that they sat on it for how many days now?

Ugh.

I shoulda bought an Xbox.

Yep.


the Xbox live servers do go down...just for maintenance and updates


Yeah and even when thats happened it's never cut into my game playing time.

xbox live was mostly down for like 10 days back in fall of 2007.


Thats the counter argument? Well Live was down for 10 day nearly 4 years ago? Really?

lol.


negative it was like 4-5 and any one with gold membership got something free for that...what will playstation give you? a tighter security and shortly there after announcement that they will be moving to a pay to play type system to cover the cost of maintenance and to ensure an attack like this never happens again

I agree with you there. I believe PSN will go to pay for play pretty shortly as well.


Oh, you a fortune teller?

Console fanboys really grate on my nerves.

Let's face it. If someone wants your personal info, they are going to get it no matter what. There hasn't been a security system created yet that can foil the most determined/skilled of cyber criminals. This wont be the last time PSN is hacked, and you can bet XBL is going to get it as well at some point.

Too funny. :laugh2:

Always hilarious isn't it when someone makes a stupid comment at the start of their post, to try and seem cool when talking about someones opinion, and then turns around and ends their post doing the exact same thing.

Makes me laugh every time.

[CowboyDan]

Anybody have any theories on how a company that just proved it couldn't keep credit card info safe is going to charge people to use their online network? That's a hard sell, I don't care how good you are. What, are they going to ask for cash only?

[RoyTheHammer]

Anybody have any theories on how a company that just proved it couldn't keep credit card info safe is going to charge people to use their online network? That's a hard sell, I don't care how good you are. What, are they going to ask for cash only?

Where did you see they are going to start charging?

And gahhh.. no more huge pictures in the thread!

[CowboyDan]

Where did you see they are going to start charging?

And gahhh.. no more huge pictures in the thread!

It's been mentioned a few times in this thread and the other one. I just don't see how they can successfully pull that off, at least not anytime soon.

[RoyTheHammer]

It's been mentioned a few times in this thread and the other one. I just don't see how they can successfully pull that off, at least not anytime soon.

Agreed. I think its all speculation right now.

[DIAF]

Always hilarious isn't it when someone makes a stupid comment at the start of their post, to try and seem cool when talking about someones opinion, and then turns around and ends their post doing the exact same thing.

Makes me laugh every time.


Laugh all you want, but it's the truth. Too many service provider/processors/anyone holding customer personal info or account info have had security breaches with hackers making off with tons of personal data. PSN and XBL are huge targets and have in the past both weathered several attempts. It's only a matter of time before someone is successful.

The only people "talking cool about opinions" are the xbox fanboys posting in this thread. You may think xbox live is awesome and lolsony, but if I were you i'd remove your CCs from your accounts and start using pointcards.

[Hoofbite]

Agreed. I think its all speculation right now.

http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/

You don't have to pay but I'd bet anything the disparity between features on the free side and the pay side grows so great that by the time the next gen console comes out, people will have little to no choice in the matter.

[RoyTheHammer]

http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/

You don't have to pay but I'd bet anything the disparity between features on the free side and the pay side grows so great that by the time the next gen console comes out, people will have little to no choice in the matter.

It looks like PP is trying to be more like XBox Live (although still doesn't have anywhere near the amount of features for almost an identical price) and the regular PSN that is free will remain how it used to be.

[BraveHeartFan]

Anybody have any theories on how a company that just proved it couldn't keep credit card info safe is going to charge people to use their online network? That's a hard sell, I don't care how good you are. What, are they going to ask for cash only?

Ummm...how does XBox do it? Oh yeah, that's right, they do it without Credit Cards as well.

It's not difficult really.


Laugh all you want, but it's the truth. Too many service provider/processors/anyone holding customer personal info or account info have had security breaches with hackers making off with tons of personal data. PSN and XBL are huge targets and have in the past both weathered several attempts. It's only a matter of time before someone is successful.

The only people "talking cool about opinions" are the xbox fanboys posting in this thread. You may think xbox live is awesome and lolsony, but if I were you i'd remove your CCs from your accounts and start using pointcards.

No the stupid comment, and the acting cool (not surprised you didn't get this really) was you making a smart *** comment about him being able to read the future, your fortune teller comment, and then turned around in the EXACT SAME POST and did THE EXACT SAME THING with your fortune telling of Xbox eventually having this problem as well.

It wasn't about you liking Sony or not. If you do, good for you, I couldn't care less. It was you being a smart *** about his opinion, and calling him a fortune teller, and then turning around and doing the same thing after you got butt hurt cause some Xbox 'fanboy' prefers something over PSN.

How DARE he like something over PSN. lol!

And I don't have CC information on my Xbox account. Never have. Never will. That's just common sense, far as I'm concerned.

[CowboyDan]

Ummm...how does XBox do it? Oh yeah, that's right, they do it without Credit Cards as well.

It's not difficult really.


Then why don't you tell me how they do it, because I don't own and XBox. :banghead:

[Dallas]

Then why don't you tell me how they do it, because I don't own and XBox. :banghead:
NORMAL people use Credit Cards.

People who don't QUALIFY for a credit card use ....

XBOX Live Cards you can buy at at Best Buy or GameStop. You can also use PSN cards the same way.

;)

Honestly, some of you are making this far more than it really is. Seriously? Fanboy between Sony PSN and XBoX Live?

Sony would even tell you in the dark alley that they aren't competing w/ Xbox Live at all. The PSN is terribly slow. CONSISTENTLY slow.

Ever watch a movie streamed from it? It ain't happenin until you get about 40% in the buffer then MAYBE you can stream.

PSN is pure BS and I pay for it and Xbox Live.

[BraveHeartFan]

NORMAL people use Credit Cards.

People who don't QUALIFY for a credit card use ....

XBOX Live Cards you can buy at at Best Buy or GameStop. You can also use PSN cards the same way.

;)

.

LMFAO!

I qualify for Credit Cards. I have very good credit. Thanks for asking.

I don't, however, put my credit card information on my XBox Live account and do anything with it. I pay cash for the live cards and do it that way.

No worry about my credit being jacked with that way.

[BraveHeartFan]

Then why don't you tell me how they do it, because I don't own and XBox. :banghead:


Oh. Sorry man. You spend cash on a XBox live card that has a code on it. Go home, put in the code, bam. You have your live paid for and you don't have any credit card or address or personal information on your account that way.

Pretty simple and easy. I'm sure PSN has the same type of thing for their store stuff or whatever and would more than likely have the same type of thing for their online play if they went to a pay for play.

[Dallas]

LMFAO!

I qualify for Credit Cards. I have very good credit. Thanks for asking.

I don't, however, put my credit card information on my XBox Live account and do anything with it. I pay cash for the live cards and do it that way.

No worry about my credit being jacked with that way.

It's OK!!! That's all Im saying.

BTW: you aren't doing anything to protect yourself from identity theft if you aren't particle-cutting (secure shredding method) your bills and names/labels you toss into your trash.

That's the EASIEST way for me to grab your identity. ;)

[RoyTheHammer]

NORMAL people use Credit Cards.

People who don't QUALIFY for a credit card use ....

XBOX Live Cards you can buy at at Best Buy or GameStop. You can also use PSN cards the same way.

;)

Honestly, some of you are making this far more than it really is. Seriously? Fanboy between Sony PSN and XBoX Live?

Sony would even tell you in the dark alley that they aren't competing w/ Xbox Live at all. The PSN is terribly slow. CONSISTENTLY slow.

Ever watch a movie streamed from it? It ain't happenin until you get about 40% in the buffer then MAYBE you can stream.

PSN is pure BS and I pay for it and Xbox Live.

Alot of normal people DON'T use credit cards on PSN or XBOX live actually.

Question though: You pay for both XBOX live and PSN Plus? Really?

[Dallas]

Alot of normal people DON'T use credit cards on PSN or XBOX live actually.

Question though: You pay for both XBOX live and PSN Plus? Really?

Yeah. It's a convienence for my son and I. We are both active gamers. He is more PSN Plus than Live at his age. He and his little friends connect more on PSN+ than anywhere else.

His age (10) most of his buds have PS3 more than 360.

[BraveHeartFan]

It's OK!!! That's all Im saying.

BTW: you aren't doing anything to protect yourself from identity theft if you aren't particle-cutting (secure shredding method) your bills and names/labels you toss into your trash.

That's the EASIEST way for me to grab your identity. ;)


This is very, very, very true.

Good point.

[RoyTheHammer]

Yeah. It's a convienence for my son and I. We are both active gamers. He is more PSN Plus than Live at his age. He and his little friends connect more on PSN+ than anywhere else.

His age (10) most of his buds have PS3 more than 360.

I didn't think PSN Plus offered that much more than the regular PSN though. You can still talk and connect over the free version of PSN, and get messages and add friends, etc.. right? Or was that put only into the PSN Plus service now?

[TheCowboy]

I didn't think PSN Plus offered that much more than the regular PSN though. You can still talk and connect over the free version of PSN, and get messages and add friends, etc.. right? Or was that put only into the PSN Plus service now?
When I had a PS3 (yes I used to have it, hated it then sold it), I had PS Plus.

It's a program that you pay for in order to get free PSN games, themes, avatars.

Didn't like it. Still XBOX > PS3

[Hoofbite]

I didn't think PSN Plus offered that much more than the regular PSN though. You can still talk and connect over the free version of PSN, and get messages and add friends, etc.. right? Or was that put only into the PSN Plus service now?

PSN Plus may not offer much more now. I actually don't know what it offers. Some games and stuff from what I can tell.

Anyway, I think any additions to the online services of PSN will be primarily to the PSN Plus service.

Long story short, Sony needs to charge. Both companies do in order to make up some of the loss they incur when they sell a system shortly after launch.

Really, it doesn't matter to me. We're talking about like $5/month?

Really, $5?

I mean, I spent that much on a cheesy lunch today. Price isn't really an issue because $5/month is pretty much nothing.

Even for little kids, $5 is nothing.

[Dallas]

PSN Plus may not offer much more now. I actually don't know what it offers. Some games and stuff from what I can tell.

Anyway, I think any additions to the online services of PSN will be primarily to the PSN Plus service.

Long story short, Sony needs to charge. Both companies do in order to make up some of the loss they incur when they sell a system shortly after launch.

Really, it doesn't matter to me. We're talking about like $5/month?

Really, $5?

I mean, I spent that much on a cheesy lunch today. Price isn't really an issue because $5/month is pretty much nothing.

Even for little kids, $5 is nothing.

True.

Sony does have to start charging for this. They need proper staff to run the network and consistently upgrade against threats and attacks. Not doing so is leaving themselves open to...

well this!!!!!

I cannot for the life of me understand why they wouldn't want a better online community than what they have. You need to charge for that. You don't have to kill the customer, but we all understand the need to pay to get a great online experience and I for one am always for it.

If I don't like it, I'll just not continue to subscribe.

I absolutely love the Xbox Live