WWE Draft.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Last night it took place:

Battle Royal won by Team Smackdown

Draft #1: John Cena has been Drafted to Smackdown.

Match Two: Raw's Eve Torres defeats Layla El

Draft #2: Rey Mysterio has been Drafted to Raw.

Match Three: Smackdown's Kofi Kingston defeated Sheamus.

Draft #3: Randy Orton has been Drafted to Smackdown.

Match Four - Good for 2 Draft Picks: Smackdown's Randy Orton defeated Dolph Ziggler.

Draft #4: Mark Henry has been Drafted to Smackdown.

Draft #5: Sin Cara has been Drafted to Smackdown.

Match Five - Good for 2 Draft Picks: Raw's Rey Mysterio defeated Wade Barrett.

Draft #6: Big Show has been Drafted to Raw.

Draft #7: Alberto Del Rio has been Drafted to Raw.

Match Six: Team Raw defeated Team Smackdown

Draft #8: John Cena has been Drafted back to Raw.

What i'm most excited about is that Del Rio is off SD, so now i'll be able to bear watching SD weekly again. I won't even be DVRing RAW anymore. John Morrison really should've been moved to SD, hopefully he is during the supplemental draft this afternoon. That'd be great.

[Ren]

SD has no heels now, Sheamus or someone going the other way would have been nice. There's only so many times you can turn Kane and still make it semi interesting

Mysterio for Sin Cara :banghead: Raw got the short end of that one but apart from that and getting Cena back Raw came out on top. One of SDs picks was Mark Henry :laugh2:

[zrinkill]

SD has no heels now, Sheamus or someone going the other way would have been nice. There's only so many times you can turn Kane and still make it semi interesting

Mysterio for Sin Cara :banghead: Raw got the short end of that one but apart from that and getting Cena back Raw came out on top. One of SDs picks was Mark Henry :laugh2:

Mark Henry will be a heel on Smackdown.

[Romo 2 Austin]

SD has no heels now, Sheamus or someone going the other way would have been nice. There's only so many times you can turn Kane and still make it semi interesting

Mysterio for Sin Cara :banghead: Raw got the short end of that one but apart from that and getting Cena back Raw came out on top. One of SDs picks was Mark Henry :laugh2:

Mysterio > Sin Cara in WWE's universe, in ring wrestling Mistico is one of the greatest in the world, but he can't speak english. Mysterio is charismatic, and can speak english lol. He's better for the "WWE Universe"

[Romo 2 Austin]

Mark Henry will be a heel on Smackdown.

Don't be too surprised to see a heel Batista return, or when Jericho comes back him as a heel.

[big dog cowboy]

Orton may turn heel.

Big Show basically won the Battle Royal for SD then goes to Raw. :lmao:

Where does Jerico end up after his dancing days are over?

[big dog cowboy]

Don't be too surprised to see a heel Batista return
I'd love to see Dave return.

[zrinkill]

Orton may turn heel.

He is the only face they have on the Show now.

[Romo 2 Austin]

He is the only face they have on the Show now.

Christian, Undertaker, Orton will probably be SD!'s face main eventers going forward. I like what they did so far because they will have to push younger talent on SD, and unless they find another reject like ADR thats a good thing.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I'd love to see Dave return.

Strikeforce announced they wont sign him, so he'll probably be calling up WWE, and with CM Punk leaving at the end of the year WWE only has 2 established main eventers, John Cena & Randy Orton.

[zrinkill]

I'd love to see Dave return.

He will.

And CM punk is going nowhere.

[Romo 2 Austin]

He will.

And CM punk is going nowhere.

No, he's leaving.

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/183662


- CM Punk has been offered a new long-term WWE contract, but at this time he has not signed and could be leaving the company when his current contract expire sin a few months. There has been talk about the possibility for some time, but during the European tour, discussion of Punk's exit heated up. As mentioned, Punk has not signed the new offer, citing "burnout with being on the road for years and unhappiness with his position in the company over the last year." A WWE office source had the following to say on the situation…

"When you look at how the company brands it's characters, Punk is never among the top 5-8 names that are promoted or pushed. It's Cena, Orton, Miz, Undertaker, Rey, now Alberto, etc. these days and Punk is sort of floating right under there. He didn't fit into the youth drive a few months back but he's not treated like a top veteran either. He's just there, doing his job and while everyone knows he delivers, he's never really treated like someone who does. He's never dropped the ball but we don't give it to him really, either. He's treated like a guy, but not THE guy. For a driven guy like him who's made wrestling his entire world, it's got to drive him crazy. Now, the excuse will be don't push Punk because he might be leaving, but the reality is the environment and situation is what is probably making him want to leave to begin with. Either it gets fixed or it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, just like it did when Batista walked out."


Denial doesn't make it untrue when every news site is reporting it.

[zrinkill]

CMPunk CM Punk
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@zrin****** just a stupid rumor, still beat from Europe

[Romo 2 Austin]

CMPunk CM Punk
@
@zrin****** just a stupid rumor, still beat from Europe

http://twitter.com/#!/CMPUNK

[zrinkill]

I really hate idiots that do not understand how things work.

Especially rumors that have been around for months and think they are new because fanboys just found out.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I really hate idiots that do not understand how things work.

CSB!
i'd rather believe a ton of news sites.

[Romo 2 Austin]

CSB!
i'd rather believe a ton of news sites.

http://pwinsider.com/article/57441/major-name-said-to-be-eyeing-wwe-exit-complete-details.html?p=1
As we initially reported last night in the PWInsider.com Elite section, former WWE World champion CM Punk has not signed a new WWE deal and there's been a lot of talk that Punk is looking to exit the company when his deal expires in a few months.
Internally, that possibility has been discussed for some time but during the European tour, discussion of Punk's exit came more and more to the forefront.

According to WWE sources, Punk has been offered a new long-term deal but has balked at signing, citing burnout with being on the road for years and unhappiness with his position in the company over the last year.

As one source pointed out, Punk has been something of an "Iron Man" for the company, working full-time on the road with the exception of his hip injury needing to be rehabbed last year. At the same time, despite delivering with whatever was handed to him creatively, Punk has watched as other talents developed since he debuted ended up pushed as bigger names and treated as more important than Punk, including Miz and Alberto Del Rio.

"When you look at how the company brands it's characters, Punk is never among the top 5-8 names that are promoted or pushed," said the WWE office source. "It's Cena, Orton, Miz, Undertaker, Rey, now Alberto, etc. these days and Punk is sort of floating right under there. He didn't fit into the youth drive a few months back but he's not treated like a top veteran either. He's just there, doing his job and while everyone knows he delivers, he's never really treated like someone who does. He's never dropped the ball but we don't give it to him really, either. He's treated like a guy, but not THE guy. For a driven guy like him who's made wrestling his entire world, it's got to drive him crazy. Now, the excuse will be don't push Punk because he might be leaving, but the reality is the environment and situation is what is probably making him want to leave to begin with. Either it gets fixed or it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, just like it did when Batista walked out."

As is the norm with such situations, a new deal could be struck at any point, but as more and more sources discuss Punk leaving the company as a distinct possibility, time will tell. We'll have more when we get it.

[Ren]

I'd be unhappy to if I had to carry those Nexus drones

[Romo 2 Austin]

Daniel Bryan just drafted to SD.


SD > Raw, all they need is Morrison and i'll have no reason to watch RAW at all lol.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Jack Swagger from Smackdown to Raw


They just keep making SD better lol.

[zrinkill]

I'd be unhappy to if I had to carry those Nexus drones

He's not ..... this is just tna fanBoy rumors.

Punk is not going anywhere.

[Romo 2 Austin]

He's not ..... this is just tna fanBoy rumors.

Punk is not going anywhere.

TNA Fanboy rumors, yet nearly single wrestling news site is reporting it? :banghead:

Maybe your just in "WWE Fanboy" denial.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Jimmy Uso from Raw to Smackdown


Great Khali and Runjin Singh from Raw to Smackdown

[Romo 2 Austin]

Kelly Kelly from Smackdown to Raw

[Romo 2 Austin]

JTG from Smackdown to Raw

[Romo 2 Austin]

Alicia Fox from Raw to Smackdown

[big dog cowboy]

Kelly Kelly from Smackdown to Raw
As long as she stays on my TV that is all that matters.

[Romo 2 Austin]

William Regal from Raw to Smackdown

[rash]

hey i always wondered why people were into this type of stuff (because it clearly is fake).

I am not bashing yall or anything; just want to know why you guys like it.

[zrinkill]

hey i always wondered why people were into this type of stuff (because it clearly is fake).

I am not bashing yall or anything; just want to know why you guys like it.

So you do not like movies and television?

Shawshank Redemption was fake .... you know that right?

[Ren]

hey i always wondered why people were into this type of stuff (because it clearly is fake).

I am not bashing yall or anything; just want to know why you guys like it.

Why watch movies or anything like that? it's mostly fake too

Simple answer; Guilty pleasure, it's entertaining

[rash]

So you do not like movies and television? They are fake you know?

I see your point; but to me...thats comparing apples to oranges.

I just don't get how people could enjoy this when they know its completely fake...why not just watch UFC instead?

[Romo 2 Austin]

9. Yoshi Tatsu from Raw to Smackdown
Previous Draft Results: First Time Drafted
10. Drew McIntyre from Smackdown to Raw
Previous Draft Results: First Time Drafted

[zrinkill]

I see your point; but to me...thats comparing apples to oranges.

I just don't get how people could enjoy this when they know its completely fake...why not just watch UFC instead?

That is like saying "why watch Saving Private Ryan when you could just watch a documentary about WW2.

UFC does not tell a story and cannot fight over and over again to build a real rivalry.

One guy just beats the other up.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Natalya from Raw to Smackdown

[Romo 2 Austin]

Curt Hawkins from Smackdown to Raw

[Romo 2 Austin]

13. Chris Masters from Smackdown to Raw
Previous Draft Results: 6th Pick in 2007; 5th Pick in 2010 Supplemental Draft
14. Jey Uso from Raw to Smackdown
Previous Draft Results: First Time Drafted

[Romo 2 Austin]

Kofi Kingston from Smackdown to Raw

[BraveHeartFan]

A little mix here and there. I hate that Orton is going from RAW but it's all good I suppose.

[Ren]

A little mix here and there. I hate that Orton is going from RAW but it's all good I suppose.

At least they split Cena and Orton up so we don't have to watch that feud this year for the 500th time

[zrinkill]

A little mix here and there. I hate that Orton is going from RAW but it's all good I suppose.

Me too.

Sucks that I have to watch smackdown now.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Me too.

Sucks that I have to watch smackdown now.

Sd has the much better roster now, especially considering del rio is off it

[DallasGirl50]

He's not ..... this is just tna fanBoy rumors.

Punk is not going anywhere.


You would be correct. Why would anyone believe internet wrestling boards when Punk answered the question directly on his Tweet...

[Biggems]

I see your point; but to me...thats comparing apples to oranges.

I just don't get how people could enjoy this when they know its completely fake...why not just watch UFC instead?


do you watch anything animated? that is totally fake too. Movies and TV Shows are really, really fake. Reality TV is about as real as the top half of women who star in adult movies.....

seriously, do you think wrestling fans are idiots? all wrestling fans know it is scripted....it is basically a violent soap opera.....but we love it.

UFC is boring. MMA is boring. Strikeforce is boring. Boxing is boring.

Wrestling has become a bit boring, but it still has its moments.....I sure wish Stone Cold, the Rock, HBK, and some others were still around full time.....but time passes along and the old move out and the new move in.

[RoyTheHammer]

do you watch anything animated? that is totally fake too. Movies and TV Shows are really, really fake. Reality TV is about as real as the top half of women who star in adult movies.....

seriously, do you think wrestling fans are idiots? all wrestling fans know it is scripted....it is basically a violent soap opera.....but we love it.

UFC is boring. MMA is boring. Strikeforce is boring. Boxing is boring.

Wrestling has become a bit boring, but it still has its moments.....I sure wish Stone Cold, the Rock, HBK, and some others were still around full time.....but time passes along and the old move out and the new move in.

Shakespeare wasn't real either.. wonder why anyone ever watched that.

[big dog cowboy]

Sd has the much better roster now, especially considering del rio is off it

:horse:

[Romo 2 Austin]

:horse:

I lold'. :laugh2:

[zrinkill]

:horse:

I wish you guys would make it so you cannot see an ignored persons ignorant post even when he is quoted.

But then again, I could never figure out how to do it on my own websites.

[rash]

do you watch anything animated? that is totally fake too. Movies and TV Shows are really, really fake. Reality TV is about as real as the top half of women who star in adult movies.....

seriously, do you think wrestling fans are idiots? all wrestling fans know it is scripted....it is basically a violent soap opera.....but we love it.

UFC is boring. MMA is boring. Strikeforce is boring. Boxing is boring.

Wrestling has become a bit boring, but it still has its moments.....I sure wish Stone Cold, the Rock, HBK, and some others were still around full time.....but time passes along and the old move out and the new move in.

then please tell me why on earth this thread is in the "sports zone"? :laugh2:

[Yeagermeister]

then please tell me why on earth this thread is in the "sports zone"? :laugh2:

Because it's Sports Entertainment and we decided it should go here

[big dog cowboy]

When does Jericho return now that he is done dancing?

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[DallasGirl50]

Unless he's just yapping I wouldn't expect him back for some weeks...he has small kids and he said he wants to spend some time with them just being Dad...he's been separated from them for 6 weeks and I'm sure that's been hard.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Unless he's just yapping I wouldn't expect him back for some weeks...he has small kids and he said he wants to spend some time with them just being Dad...he's been separated from them for 6 weeks and I'm sure that's been hard.

Problem with bringing Jericho back is they need him as a heel right now, preferably on SD, and it'll be hard to get him accepted as a heel.

[DallasGirl50]

He can be either heel or face with equal skill..he's a pro at both.

I am only guessing but I think he would be one that would have enough ring time and backstage pull to determine which show he would prefer to be on. I think he'd probably stay on RAW. He's great friends with Christian though. He might like being on the same show with him. Who knows? He tweets alot and is always commenting online about this or that. He'll probably be asked alot now about when he is coming back.

[Yeagermeister]

The only time I have ever really cared for Jericho was when he was dogging Stephanie McMahon :laugh1:

[Romo 2 Austin]

He can be either heel or face with equal skill..he's a pro at both.

I am only guessing but I think he would be one that would have enough ring time and backstage pull to determine which show he would prefer to be on. I think he'd probably stay on RAW. He's great friends with Christian though. He might like being on the same show with him. Who knows? He tweets alot and is always commenting online about this or that. He'll probably be asked alot now about when he is coming back.

The company is weaker on the heel side, with Del Joke & Punk being the top two in the company. Orton & Cena being the top faces is much stronger.

SD the top heels are Sheamus and Wade Barrett, they desperately need Jericho as a heel.

[DallasGirl50]

The only time I have ever really cared for Jericho was when he was dogging Stephanie McMahon :laugh1:
And now she is his big boss..that was pretty funny stuff.

[RoyTheHammer]

The company is weaker on the heel side, with Del Joke & Punk being the top two in the company. Orton & Cena being the top faces is much stronger.

SD the top heels are Sheamus and Wade Barrett, they desperately need Jericho as a heel.

Orten is better as a heel, and Sheamus can be a title contender today if they just give him that push again. I'd much rather see Shaemus and Orten than Del Rio and Miz anyday.

[big dog cowboy]

The only time I have ever really cared for Jericho was when he was dogging Stephanie McMahon :laugh1:

On7w7BAvSjo

So many great vids it was hard to choose one.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Orten is better as a heel, and Sheamus can be a title contender today if they just give him that push again. I'd much rather see Shaemus and Orten than Del Rio and Miz anyday.

Agreed with everything, but there also really light on faces right now aswell so I doubt they'll be turning Orton heel. They better hope shoving Miz down everyone's throats pays off, they desperately need more established stars

[Ren]

Problem with bringing Jericho back is they need him as a heel right now, preferably on SD, and it'll be hard to get him accepted as a heel.

No it won't, one Jericho "you're all a bunch of parasites" speech and that smug grin would probably be more then enough. He's gone for a little while and people start to forget just how good he is at pissing people off. We're talking about the guy who "beat up" old people here :laugh1:

Jericho is in a league of his own when it comes to being a heel

[Yeagermeister]

On7w7BAvSjo

So many great vids it was hard to choose one.

I always liked the one where he was making fun of her enhancement or when he starts in with the dirty, stinky, trashbag........ho :laugh2:

[Romo 2 Austin]

No it won't, one Jericho "you're all a bunch of parasites" speech and that smug grin would probably be more then enough. He's gone for a little while and people start to forget just how good he is at pissing people off. We're talking about the guy who "beat up" old people here :laugh1:

Jericho is in a league of his own when it comes to being a heel

Oh I have not forgotten, he is one of my favorite's of all times. His match at WM19 vs Shawn Michaels is my favorite match of all time.

but like Triple H around 06/07? people just wanted to start cheering him, everyone gets to that point,well everyone good, and Jericho may be there.

[big dog cowboy]

I always liked the one where he was making fun of her enhancement or when he starts in with the dirty, stinky, trashbag........ho :laugh2:
I almost posted that one but the language......

[Ren]

TNA ain't the only company is desperate need of better writers, it has become painfully predictable. The only surprise at ER was that they where actually lame enough to give Cena the title again.


The Sheamus/Kingston match served only 1 purpose and that was to send that title to Raw
During the main even you where just waiting for R truth to show up and cost Morrison the title. It's one thing to be able to see who's going to win in advance but it's pretty bad when the big "surprises" is what everyone is expecting.
Awesome Kong showing up after the divas match wasn't exactly a surprise either

Poor PPV all around Punk/Orton was the best match and it was the one to kick off the PPV, it was all down hill from there

[BraveHeartFan]

I could care less. They gave Christian the title so I'm happy!

Edit: and am I the only one who feels that McCool is going to be the person coming out with Angle in TNA? I don't know how their shows work, so I don't know if that was already taped in advance or something, but if they're doing a live show then I suppose that's possible with her supposedly leaving the WWE after this loss.

Of course that could all just be an angle as well I guess.

[Ren]

I could care less. They gave Christian the title so I'm happy!

Remains to be seen how long they will keep him at the top, it was long over due but he should have gotten a shot long ago on his own merits instead of it just being a feel good story cause Edge was forced to retire

[Romo 2 Austin]

Happy the titles on Christian & off the miz

[Ren]

Forgot about Cole coming out wrapped in bubble wrap, that was actually pretty funny :laugh2:

[BraveHeartFan]

Happy the titles on Christian & off the miz


Miz will get it back, without a doubt.

[tupperware]

People still watch WWE? Bleh, to each his own. I'll stick with MMA :)

[RoyTheHammer]

I could care less. They gave Christian the title so I'm happy!

Edit: and am I the only one who feels that McCool is going to be the person coming out with Angle in TNA? I don't know how their shows work, so I don't know if that was already taped in advance or something, but if they're doing a live show then I suppose that's possible with her supposedly leaving the WWE after this loss.

Of course that could all just be an angle as well I guess.

Former WWE employees have a clause in their contract stating they can't appear for a competing brand for awhile, so McCool won't be going to TNA. Plus she's Taker's wife, so she probably just wants to leave to make babies with him haha.

But she won't be Angle's mistress.

[RoyTheHammer]

Miz will get it back, without a doubt.

Lets hope not.. he's still a midcarder at best. Cena's only slightly better than him imo, and Morrison and Truth shouldn't be within 500 miles of a heavyweight title shot.

[BanditHiro]

I could care less. They gave Christian the title so I'm happy!

Edit: and am I the only one who feels that McCool is going to be the person coming out with Angle in TNA? I don't know how their shows work, so I don't know if that was already taped in advance or something, but if they're doing a live show then I suppose that's possible with her supposedly leaving the WWE after this loss.

Of course that could all just be an angle as well I guess.

she is probably going on vacation and not actually leaving the WWE permanently

[Romo 2 Austin]

Miz will get it back, without a doubt.

Let us all pray not.

[zrinkill]

Lets hope not.. he's still a midcarder at best. Cena's only slightly better than him

:lmao:

[big dog cowboy]

Lets hope not.. he's still a midcarder at best. Cena's only slightly better than him imo, and Morrison and Truth shouldn't be within 500 miles of a heavyweight title shot.
That we can agree on. He is what HHH would call a ratings killer.

[Aikmaniac]

Does this mean Cena carries the title all the way to WM28?

[Ren]

Does this mean Cena carries the title all the way to WM28?

I doubt it, Cena carrying a title into WM28 would make it even more obvious that he is to win that, Cena is after all the guy who's going to be around post WM28

[RoyTheHammer]

she is probably going on vacation and not actually leaving the WWE permanently

Who knows how long she'll actually stay inactive, but for now she's gone. It doesn't sound like its a vacation, it sounds like she just wanted out. Now that Taker is winding up his career, they probably want to start focusing on having a family.

[DallasGirl50]

Who knows how long she'll actually stay inactive, but for now she's gone. It doesn't sound like its a vacation, it sounds like she just wanted out. Now that Taker is winding up his career, they probably want to start focusing on having a family.


Mark has 2 small daughters with his last wife..plus a grown son. Michelle has not been married before and may want a child of her own..who knows? They can certainly afford it. She has injury issues as well. She may just want some long time off.

[zrinkill]

McCool needs knee surgery.

[BraveHeartFan]

People still watch WWE? Bleh, to each his own. I'll stick with MMA :)

I watch MMA as well. :)


Former WWE employees have a clause in their contract stating they can't appear for a competing brand for awhile, so McCool won't be going to TNA. Plus she's Taker's wife, so she probably just wants to leave to make babies with him haha.

But she won't be Angle's mistress.

Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure on that.

In fact I had no idea that she was married to Taker but that's not surprising as I don't keep up with any of these peoples personal lives. lol

Appreciate the info.


Lets hope not.. he's still a midcarder at best. Cena's only slightly better than him imo, and Morrison and Truth shouldn't be within 500 miles of a heavyweight title shot.

I agree with Truth totally, I agree with Morrison when it comes to mic skills (though I do think he's a fantastic wrestler), but I can't agree with you on Miz.

I know he's not amazing, or anything of that nature, but I do find him entertaining and I hope he gets another run.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Lets hope not.. he's still a midcarder at best. Cena's only slightly better than him imo, and Morrison and Truth shouldn't be within 500 miles of a heavyweight title shot.

Miz 100% agreed.

Cena, disagreed. He's a prototypical WWE character, built from the same mold that Steve Austin, The Rock, Undertaker, Hulk Hogan and Macho Man where. Over the top characters.

John Morrison- He would be the face of the company if it was my decision. So, completely disagreed.


Truth- He's getting over as a heel, and showing what heel heat is, not boo's generated by boredom such as ADR.

[zrinkill]

I really like how Cody Rhodes is doing with an awful "TNA like" gimmick.

He and Rey stole the show last night.

[Aikmaniac]

Miz 100% agreed.

Cena, disagreed. He's a prototypical WWE character, built from the same mold that Steve Austin, The Rock, Undertaker, Hulk Hogan and Macho Man where. Over the top characters.

John Morrison- He would be the face of the company if it was my decision. So, completely disagreed.


Truth- He's getting over as a heel, and showing what heel heat is, not boo's generated by boredom such as ADR.

So, you'd like a more "realistic" wrestling character on WWE?

Bro, people have to be entertained to watch. If you think the majority of viewers tune in for the actual "wrestling", you're wrong bud.

[DallasGirl50]

Miz 100% agreed.

Cena, disagreed. He's a prototypical WWE character, built from the same mold that Steve Austin, The Rock, Undertaker, Hulk Hogan and Macho Man where. Over the top characters.

John Morrison- He would be the face of the company if it was my decision. So, completely disagreed.


Truth- He's getting over as a heel, and showing what heel heat is, not boo's generated by boredom such as ADR.


Interesting...I don't see a thing over the top about Cena. I mean he wrestles in shorts and Nikes...he's marketed as the guy next door. The guy you can go have a beer with. Certainly nothing Taker like or Macho Man or Hogan about him and his character at all. Interesting take on that one.

I like Truth as a heel. The vignette he did the other night on whatever show he's on (I forgot!) where he came out to the stage and just talked was actually pretty good. Better than I thought he'd be anyway.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Interesting...I don't see a thing over the top about Cena. I mean he wrestles in shorts and Nikes...he's marketed as the guy next door. The guy you can go have a beer with. Certainly nothing Taker like or Macho Man or Hogan about him and his character at all. Interesting take on that one.

I like Truth as a heel. The vignette he did the other night on whatever show he's on (I forgot!) where he came out to the stage and just talked was actually pretty good. Better than I thought he'd be anyway.
Cena acts like Supeman

[Romo 2 Austin]

So, you'd like a more "realistic" wrestling character on WWE?

Bro, people have to be entertained to watch. If you think the majority of viewers tune in for the actual "wrestling", you're wrong bud.

I like a mix. For every Cena there should be a Shawn Michaels, for every Undertaker there should be a Chris Jericho.

Realistic characters can draw more of an emotional attachment, and create lifelong fans. Casual fans are more likely to say I can't wait to see John Cena this weekend, or Hulk Hogan. Lifelong wrestling fans would rather see Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Jericho and performers of that elk.

You need both.

[BraveHeartFan]

Cena acts like Supeman


Cena is booked like Superman. He doesn't act like it.

And for the record, if they'd take the stupid cuffs off him (metaphorically speaking here), the guy can actually wrestle pretty good. I saw him long before he went to the WWE and the guy does have plenty of ability to put out solid matches.

It's just that, much like with Austin before him, the gimmick that has him super over with the fans doesn't require, need, or have use for a bunch of clinical wrestling skill.

[DallasGirl50]

Cena acts like Supeman

They market him like the guy next door...the guy you'd have a beer with...there is nothing character driven about his wrestling. He doesn't have a role to play like Taker or Kane but they are getting away from those type of wrestlers anyway.

I don't find him or his wrestling appealing in any way. I FF over probably 99% of the stuff he's on unless he's opposite somebody I like.

[DallasGirl50]

Cena is booked like Superman. He doesn't act like it.

And for the record, if they'd take the stupid cuffs off him (metaphorically speaking here), the guy can actually wrestle pretty good. I saw him long before he went to the WWE and the guy does have plenty of ability to put out solid matches.

It's just that, much like with Austin before him, the gimmick that has him super over with the fans doesn't require, need, or have use for a bunch of clinical wrestling skill.


You're right about the comparison between Austin and Cena..Steve put in alot of hard time working his way up to the WWE though and while I honestly don't know where Cena came from before WWE I think Steve had alot more miles on him when he got there.

And Steve is much more bad *** than Cena..even marketed that way and he is that in real life as well.

I've tried but just can't make myself like Cena..I don't miss him when he's gone and he just annoys me when he's there. I don't know why.

[windward]

I really like how Cody Rhodes is doing with an awful "TNA like" gimmick.

He and Rey stole the show last night.

I'm telling ya, Cody should be in a program for the WHC sometime this year.

The guy's great IMO.

[Biggems]

Cena used to wrestle for OVW (Ohio Valley Wrestling) under the name Prototype.....Batista was there too, under the name Leviathan.

[DallasGirl50]

Cena used to wrestle for OVW (Ohio Valley Wrestling) under the name Prototype.....Batista was there too, under the name Leviathan.


Prototype. That name made me LOL. Sounds like some guy's name in a Power Rangers movie...

[Romo 2 Austin]

Prototype. That name made me LOL. Sounds like some guy's name in a Power Rangers movie...

It fits, he is the prototype for what vince wants in a "entertainer".

[DallasGirl50]

It fits, he is the prototype for what vince wants in a "entertainer".


That's one of the dumbest wrestling names I've ever heard...

[RoyTheHammer]

And Steve is much more bad *** than Cena..even marketed that way and he is that in real life as well.

I've tried but just can't make myself like Cena..I don't miss him when he's gone and he just annoys me when he's there. I don't know why.

Bingo. Agreed, both have worked hard for the company, and not to steal a line from my favorite wrestler of all time, but Austin is just simply much much more of a bad *** than Cena will ever be.. and that's the bottom line.

Cena has no mic skills and is a fruit. For as big as he is, he doesn't act intimidating at all, he acts like a little kid.. which is very convenient because that's WWE's new target fan base. Little kids.. and moms.

[BraveHeartFan]

You're right about the comparison between Austin and Cena..Steve put in alot of hard time working his way up to the WWE though and while I honestly don't know where Cena came from before WWE I think Steve had alot more miles on him when he got there.

And Steve is much more bad *** than Cena..even marketed that way and he is that in real life as well.

I've tried but just can't make myself like Cena..I don't miss him when he's gone and he just annoys me when he's there. I don't know why.

I agree with you on Austin. And yeah he had a lot more miles on him by the time he got to WWE but he came up in a very different time. There was still more areas to go, and learn, when Steve came up then there have been for Cena.

But I wasn't comparing them on basis of overall. Steve is the most popular superstar of all time and it would be stupid to try and compare Cena to him in that way. I'm just talking about in how he's packaged and the way it works with what he's allowed to do wrestling wise in the ring is all.



Cena used to wrestle for OVW (Ohio Valley Wrestling) under the name Prototype.....Batista was there too, under the name Leviathan.

Yeah. He was doing the Prototype thing before he came to OVW though. SOmewhere out in Cali, if I recall correctly. It's what got him noticed by going with the 50% man 50% machine, the prototype for the perfect athlete gimmick.

He did a pretty darn good job with it, IMO. Thats why I always remembered him even before he went to OVW and then came to WWE.




Prototype. That name made me LOL. Sounds like some guy's name in a Power Rangers movie...

Its a funny name but he did a really solid job with it. Much more, IMO, than a lot of guys have done with much better names.


It fits, he is the prototype for what vince wants in a "entertainer".

Yeah it's a shame he doesn't have Cena out there calling people a son of a *****, an *******, a piece of ****, a ******* and all that stuff, at random, just to be doing it.

What a shame.


Bingo. Agreed, both have worked hard for the company, and not to steal a line from my favorite wrestler of all time, but Austin is just simply much much more of a bad *** than Cena will ever be.. and that's the bottom line.

Cena has no mic skills and is a fruit. For as big as he is, he doesn't act intimidating at all, he acts like a little kid.. which is very convenient because that's WWE's new target fan base. Little kids.. and moms.

Again that's how he's packaged cause thats what is selling for them. Its got him over, he draw money for them, they make money with it, so I don't see why anyone would bag on Cena, or Vince, for doing what makes money and sells.

[zrinkill]

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[DallasGirl50]

I agree with you on Austin. And yeah he had a lot more miles on him by the time he got to WWE but he came up in a very different time. There was still more areas to go, and learn, when Steve came up then there have been for Cena.

But I wasn't comparing them on basis of overall. Steve is the most popular superstar of all time and it would be stupid to try and compare Cena to him in that way. I'm just talking about in how he's packaged and the way it works with what he's allowed to do wrestling wise in the ring is all.





Yeah. He was doing the Prototype thing before he came to OVW though. SOmewhere out in Cali, if I recall correctly. It's what got him noticed by going with the 50% man 50% machine, the prototype for the perfect athlete gimmick.

He did a pretty darn good job with it, IMO. Thats why I always remembered him even before he went to OVW and then came to WWE.






Its a funny name but he did a really solid job with it. Much more, IMO, than a lot of guys have done with much better names.




Yeah it's a shame he doesn't have Cena out there calling people a son of a *****, an *******, a piece of ****, a ******* and all that stuff, at random, just to be doing it.

What a shame.




Again that's how he's packaged cause thats what is selling for them. Its got him over, he draw money for them, they make money with it, so I don't see why anyone would bag on Cena, or Vince, for doing what makes money and sells.


Anybody can see there is a massive difference between Austin and Cena..in the ring and out. I don't consider Austin the most popular superstar of all time but to each his own. That is totally subjective.

I've been to WWE shows/PPV's where Cena is there. You'd be surprised how many people boo when he comes out. Lots of people are like me and don't like the guy for whatever reason. I can't put my finger on why I don't like him but I never have and guess never will. I wouldn't miss him at all if he quit tomorrow..Edge I do miss.

I don't blame him or Vince either in any way for making money with his "every man" gimmick. I mean it works...my nephews are young kids and make my sister buy everything Cena..armbands, Tshirts, videos. It's all about the green stuff and he makes plenty for WWE. I totally get that. They'd be stupid not to continue with something that is obviously working. I don't get him at all or his appeal but that's my problem..not theirs.

[BraveHeartFan]

Yeah I've been to some live shows. I know he's hated by folks as well as loved. :)

[DallasGirl50]

Yeah I've been to some live shows. I know he's hated by folks as well as loved. :)

I was kind of surprised to be honest..the lady sitting next to me was mad. She said she meet John somewhere and he was so nice..she couldn't imagine anybody booing him. I told her well I meet Kane/Glenn once and he's a really nice guy too. I'm sure he's a nice person. I didn't boo but I wouldn't buy a ticket to see him. I think looking back the reason I don't like him is that dumb rapper stuff he use to do..

[zrinkill]

Yeah I've been to some live shows. I know he's hated by folks as well as loved. :)

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[Ren]

My main issue with Cena who i am sure is a great person is once you've seen one of his matches you've seen them all, he has about 5 moves that he does in the same order over and over again. His persona is boring and his matches are boring yet he main events every PPV.

The only other WWE performer i have that kind of dislike for is Mysterio for much of the same reasons i don't mind his image but his matches are reruns at this point.

Both these guys put on terrible matches IMO, there's no excitement to be had when you know exactly what's going to happen every time they set foot in the ring

[DallasGirl50]

I think he makes so much money at this point that Cena doesn't really care if people like him or not.

They are going to have to have him do a heel turn at some point or that will be one boring WM main event with Rock. They need to write SOMETHING different for him.

[Ren]

They already have the perfect set up all the kids and soccer moms love Cena everyone else loves the Rock. The only problem i have with it is if they let Cena walk into that match with a belt cause it would make it even more obvious then it already is who the winner is going to be. They're not going to hand the belt over to someone who doesn't work full time for them.

[DallasGirl50]

They already have the perfect set up all the kids and soccer moms love Cena everyone else loves the Rock. The only problem i have with it is if they let Cena walk into that match with a belt cause it would make it even more obvious then it already is who the winner is going to be. They're not going to hand the belt over to someone who doesn't work full time for them.


Well I'm not a soccer mom but I am female and there is no way I'd not cheer for Rock in that match...I doubt Cena will have the belt then. It's almost a year away. There will be tons of stuff different by then. I just think they need to turn Cena heel..

[BraveHeartFan]

Id be shocked if Cena was still Champion by the time WM got here again. Unless he loses it and wins it back right before or something. I mean were talking something like 10 and half or 11 months from now? THe longest reign a world champion has had in WWE, in forever, was JBL and I think his was like 7 or 8 months. You're talking another 3 months on top of that, basically, for Cena?

Nah. Just don't see it.