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cowboyjoe
05-01-2011, 09:17 AM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Sunday-Blitz-3332.html

*According to an ESPN interview with Bruce Feldman, new Cowboys linebacker Bruce Carter isn’t exactly scientific when it comes to fueling his body. He said he eats three double cheeseburgers, a medium order of fries and a six-piece order of McNuggets from McDonalds almost every day. Wow. I’ve known other athletes who have eaten similarly through the years and I always have marveled how they perform so well and look so good while eating such junk.

*One first round pick visited a team before the draft and lost his wallet three times in a day. How do you lose your wallet three times in a day?

kmp77
05-01-2011, 09:34 AM
His arms were about to rip through his shirt. He looked ripped in the press conference. He also said he burns everything off so fast...probably one of those people who have to eat bad just to keep weight on.

Duane
05-01-2011, 09:35 AM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Sunday-Blitz-3332.html

*According to an ESPN interview with Bruce Feldman, new Cowboys linebacker Bruce Carter isn’t exactly scientific when it comes to fueling his body. He said he eats three double cheeseburgers, a medium order of fries and a six-piece order of McNuggets from McDonalds almost every day. Wow. I’ve known other athletes who have eaten similarly through the years and I always have marveled how they perform so well and look so good while eating such junk.

*One first round pick visited a team before the draft and lost his wallet three times in a day. How do you lose your wallet three times in a day?

Single digit Wonderlic score?

fishspill
05-01-2011, 09:44 AM
Great article. I found this part interesting as well:

*Cornerback Prince Amukamara fell to the Giants at the 19th pick, but he probably should have been a top 10 pick based on talent. What was behind Amukamara’s fall? In many draft rooms, the scouts liked Amukamara more than the coaches. The DB coaches and defensive coordinators got together and decided they weren’t as high on Amukamara as many of their scouting counterparts. The coaches pointed to Amukamara’s short arms (30 1/2 inches, 71 ½ inch wingspan) and small hands (8 ½ inches). And there may have been more to the story. A lot of NFL people are skeptical about Nigerian players like Amukarma. “And it’s not just white men,” one executive said. “It’s whites and blacks.” It’s still a subtle form of racism. The word on Nigerians: they are soft, not tough enough and too educated. It would be a pity if that’s what cost Amukamara.

This is kind of along the lines of why I'm tentative about getting the Castonzo-types of the world. So I guess I'm in the same boat as these guys, right or wrong. I like smart, I don't like too smart.

Muhast
05-01-2011, 09:45 AM
Ochocinco eats McDonalds all the time. He was talking about it on Hard Knocks.

chip_gilkey
05-01-2011, 09:56 AM
For real in his presser he said that he has a fast metabolism so he burns it off in no time. Not even a note worthy topic but I see someone had to write about it.

TheCount
05-01-2011, 10:01 AM
Great article. I found this part interesting as well:

*Cornerback Prince Amukamara fell to the Giants at the 19th pick, but he probably should have been a top 10 pick based on talent. What was behind Amukamara’s fall? In many draft rooms, the scouts liked Amukamara more than the coaches. The DB coaches and defensive coordinators got together and decided they weren’t as high on Amukamara as many of their scouting counterparts. The coaches pointed to Amukamara’s short arms (30 1/2 inches, 71 ½ inch wingspan) and small hands (8 ½ inches). And there may have been more to the story. A lot of NFL people are skeptical about Nigerian players like Amukarma. “And it’s not just white men,” one executive said. “It’s whites and blacks.” It’s still a subtle form of racism. The word on Nigerians: they are soft, not tough enough and too educated. It would be a pity if that’s what cost Amukamara.

This is kind of along the lines of why I'm tentative about getting the Castonzo-types of the world. So I guess I'm in the same boat as these guys, right or wrong. I like smart, I don't like too smart.

The funny part here is that the scouts come in and tell the coaches, "We really like this guy, he can play and should be a Top 10 pick."

And the coaches idiotically reply, "But he's got small hands...."

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why are you paying scouts if not to tell you if the guy can play FOOTBALL or not?

Hostile
05-01-2011, 10:01 AM
His poor diet has destroyed his body. Look at this flab.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0624/ncf_u_carter_b1_200.jpg (http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0624/ncf_u_carter_b1_200.jpg)


http://nflsoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Bruce-Carter-20111.jpg

http://profootballzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/north-carolina-bruce-carter.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RVLfSMIB7K0/SOyb795h0PI/AAAAAAAALKQ/qho_uy9N2M0/s400/001BruceCarter.jpg

http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20110429-brucecarter1.jpg.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/carter_bruce_1.jpg

supercowboy8
05-01-2011, 10:04 AM
i;m sure Dallas will have a talk with him about what to eat and get him on a proper diet.

cbow44
05-01-2011, 10:07 AM
oh to be young again. I cant even salt my food any more.

Chocolate Lab
05-01-2011, 10:08 AM
Great article. I found this part interesting as well:

*Cornerback Prince Amukamara fell to the Giants at the 19th pick, but he probably should have been a top 10 pick based on talent. What was behind Amukamara’s fall? In many draft rooms, the scouts liked Amukamara more than the coaches. The DB coaches and defensive coordinators got together and decided they weren’t as high on Amukamara as many of their scouting counterparts. The coaches pointed to Amukamara’s short arms (30 1/2 inches, 71 ½ inch wingspan) and small hands (8 ½ inches). And there may have been more to the story. A lot of NFL people are skeptical about Nigerian players like Amukarma. “And it’s not just white men,” one executive said. “It’s whites and blacks.” It’s still a subtle form of racism. The word on Nigerians: they are soft, not tough enough and too educated. It would be a pity if that’s what cost Amukamara.

I don't remember Christian Okoye being soft or not tough enough.

Really, I doubt this had anything to do with it. I'm a Nebraska fan and I'm very undecided on Prince. I think he could be pretty good, but I don't ever think he'll be great. I think he went about where he should have, honestly.

CATCH17
05-01-2011, 10:22 AM
I don't remember Christian Okoye being soft or not tough enough.

Really, I doubt this had anything to do with it. I'm a Nebraska fan and I'm very undecided on Prince. I think he could be pretty good, but I don't ever think he'll be great. I think he went about where he should have, honestly.

Me too.

I said before the draft I wouldn't take him until I got into the 20s and it looks like the NFL GMs agreed with me.

CATCH17
05-01-2011, 10:25 AM
i;m sure Dallas will have a talk with him about what to eat and get him on a proper diet.

Yeah it would be stupid for him not to change his eating if he wants to perform at his highest capabilities.

He is a genetic freak to be that muscled with so much carbs.

realtick
05-01-2011, 10:46 AM
Great article. I found this part interesting as well:

*Cornerback Prince Amukamara fell to the Giants at the 19th pick, but he probably should have been a top 10 pick based on talent. What was behind Amukamara’s fall? In many draft rooms, the scouts liked Amukamara more than the coaches. The DB coaches and defensive coordinators got together and decided they weren’t as high on Amukamara as many of their scouting counterparts. The coaches pointed to Amukamara’s short arms (30 1/2 inches, 71 ½ inch wingspan) and small hands (8 ½ inches).

I pointed that out weeks ago regarding his abnormally small arms and hand size. His arm/hand size are comparable to guys that are 5'9", like Brandon Harris and Kendrick Burney, which is strange for a guy 6' tall.

I don't think it's the end all be all, but in a game of inches, it could be a determining factor. I also don't think he played to his measurables. He had some of the best combine all-around, yet you didn't see him making a lot of plays on the ball, which tells me his instincts are behind his athletic ability. I didn't like his ball skills on the deep ball.

Also, ESPN or some other site put up a chart comparing all the pass attempts/yards per catch/completions given up by the top CB, including Amukumara, Peterson and I believe either Jimmy Smith or Brandon Harris. Prince gave up less completions, but he did have the worst yards per catch average by a wide margin. Most of the DBs averaged 8 yards or so, while Prince was averaging 15.

realtick
05-01-2011, 10:49 AM
I think anyone past the age of the 30 can remember a time in their early twenties when they could eat anything. If you're a supreme athlete, how much more so.

It was funny, during the press conference, one of the local media guys said something to that effect.

big dog cowboy
05-01-2011, 11:09 AM
He said he eats three double cheeseburgers, a medium order of fries and a six-piece order of McNuggets from McDonalds almost every day.

Ah to be in my early 20's again.

Fla Cowpoke
05-01-2011, 11:13 AM
His poor diet has destroyed his body. Look at this flab.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0624/ncf_u_carter_b1_200.jpg (http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0624/ncf_u_carter_b1_200.jpg)


http://nflsoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Bruce-Carter-20111.jpg

http://profootballzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/north-carolina-bruce-carter.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RVLfSMIB7K0/SOyb795h0PI/AAAAAAAALKQ/qho_uy9N2M0/s400/001BruceCarter.jpg

http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20110429-brucecarter1.jpg.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/carter_bruce_1.jpg

He's got some skinny *** calves to be sure.

My concern with Carter is not his diet. I watched three - four clips on him and saw a lot of Bobby Carpenter and Jason Williams. Good speed, but gets enveloped by blockers, not a very sure tackler and didn't look too good in coverage. Now I know it was a very limited sample, but the way Mayock and some of thise guys were gushing about him I expected to see him jump off the screen. And it was far from that.

Joshmvii
05-01-2011, 11:53 AM
Many people don't realize that for the most part, food is just calories. I don't, but I could eat Mcdonald's every day and not be fat too, and I work in an office all day, but I also exercise every day and burn calories. Average people sit around all day at work and sit around all night at home, so they can't eat a lot of calories without getting fat.

Michael Phelps eats 15000+ calories a day, including entire pizzas and whatever else just to have enough energy to train. Food is just energy, and though it's not healthy to just eat a ton of processed sugar or even too much saturated fat, as long as you exercise enough, you're not going to be fat no matter what you eat.

CATCH17
05-01-2011, 12:23 PM
Many people don't realize that for the most part, food is just calories. I don't, but I could eat Mcdonald's every day and not be fat too, and I work in an office all day, but I also exercise every day and burn calories. Average people sit around all day at work and sit around all night at home, so they can't eat a lot of calories without getting fat.

Michael Phelps eats 15000+ calories a day, including entire pizzas and whatever else just to have enough energy to train. Food is just energy, and though it's not healthy to just eat a ton of processed sugar or even too much saturated fat, as long as you exercise enough, you're not going to be fat no matter what you eat.

Exactly. A calorie is a calorie is a calorie.

2500 mcdonalds calories will get you as fat as 2500 orange calories if 2000 calories is your maintenance.

realtick
05-01-2011, 12:24 PM
Many people don't realize that for the most part, food is just calories. I don't, but I could eat Mcdonald's every day and not be fat too, and I work in an office all day, but I also exercise every day and burn calories. Average people sit around all day at work and sit around all night at home, so they can't eat a lot of calories without getting fat.



Exactly.

There's a doctor in New York or somewhere on the east coast who famously went on a cookie diet for a prolonged period of time. All he ate were cookies for breakfast, lunch and dinner, but would not go over a certain amount of calories (I believe 1,500 per day). He ended up losing weight.

It's really not about what you eat, but simply the total amount of calories you're eating per day.

mrla
05-01-2011, 01:42 PM
oh to be young again. I cant even salt my food any more.

Yea...those salt shakers can get pretty heavy:)

CaptainAmerica
05-01-2011, 02:11 PM
Carter can do it and have no side effects. He's very young and an athlete with a very high metabolism.


But if you saw that documentary where the guy only ate McD's for 30 days you would think long and hard before eating as much fast food as most Amercians do. The guy's weight, blood pressure, cholesteral, sugar, etc. went to dangerous levels after only 30 days of fast food only. It was shocking.

As for Prince, there was something about that guy that I could never figure out and I never could get excited about the idea of us picking him. Parcells made a special note on his draft show of saying that dbs with short arms are marked down in his estimation because it limits their ability to play the position at the NFL level.

BIGDen
05-01-2011, 02:14 PM
He is a genetic freak to be that muscled with so much carbs.

I hear what you're saying because there's a great deal of fat, sodium and and carbs yet he's still ripped. However, there's an enormous amount of protein in there too so the muscle bulk is not surprising. Bottom line is, like you said, he's a genetic freak.

BIGDen
05-01-2011, 02:16 PM
Many people don't realize that for the most part, food is just calories. I don't, but I could eat Mcdonald's every day and not be fat too, and I work in an office all day, but I also exercise every day and burn calories. Average people sit around all day at work and sit around all night at home, so they can't eat a lot of calories without getting fat.

Michael Phelps eats 15000+ calories a day, including entire pizzas and whatever else just to have enough energy to train. Food is just energy, and though it's not healthy to just eat a ton of processed sugar or even too much saturated fat, as long as you exercise enough, you're not going to be fat no matter what you eat.

I was going to use that example. Well put.

bbgun
05-01-2011, 02:17 PM
He eats like a typical college student. Once he enters a structured environment, he'll be fine. When's the last time the Cowboys issued a weight fine? Seems like forever.

Jenky
05-01-2011, 02:20 PM
Many people don't realize that for the most part, food is just calories. I don't, but I could eat Mcdonald's every day and not be fat too, and I work in an office all day, but I also exercise every day and burn calories. Average people sit around all day at work and sit around all night at home, so they can't eat a lot of calories without getting fat.

Michael Phelps eats 15000+ calories a day, including entire pizzas and whatever else just to have enough energy to train. Food is just energy, and though it's not healthy to just eat a ton of processed sugar or even too much saturated fat, as long as you exercise enough, you're not going to be fat no matter what you eat.

The quality of food still matters. Trans fat + hydrogenated oils will destroy your health overtime. Yes you can maintain weight while going on a "McDonald's diet" but your arteries will get clogged like no other, cholesterol will be at an all time high, and triglyceride levels will skyrocket. The diet may work for him now, but in a couple of years we'll see what happens. Do you think T.O. is able to play at such a high level for a long time on a diet similar to this?

The quality of fuel still matters. Those retired players having all of those health problems are paying the price.

BIGDen
05-01-2011, 02:27 PM
The coaches pointed to Amukamara’s short arms (30 1/2 inches, 71 ½ inch wingspan) and small hands (8 ½ inches).

It certainly makes sense that that is a negative when it comes to playing CB. It makes it tough to jam a receiver who has longer arms than you. It also puts you at a disadvantage when trying to go up for a ball or knock a pass away. The difference between a completed pass and one that's knocked away is often a matter of inches.

Arm length certainly matters for some postitions in football. Bulaga's short arms were cited as a reason he dropped last year in the draft. Tyron Smith's freakish wingspan was considered a major asset. I'm still amazed that he was able to do as many reps on the bench with such long arms. He may be the most physically gifted tackle to come out of college....ever. If there was someone else in the past who had more impressive measurables, he probably wasn't 20 years old. This guy is not close to his physical peak yet. He's not just some workout warrior either, opposing linemen voted him the best OL in the conference. I believe we were very fortunate that he came out early. A gifted player like this is rare.

BIGDen
05-01-2011, 02:31 PM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Sunday-Blitz-3332.html

*According to an ESPN interview with Bruce Feldman, new Cowboys linebacker Bruce Carter isn’t exactly scientific when it comes to fueling his body. He said he eats three double cheeseburgers, a medium order of fries and a six-piece order of McNuggets from McDonalds almost every day. Wow. I’ve known other athletes who have eaten similarly through the years and I always have marveled how they perform so well and look so good while eating such junk.

That's alright. As long as he's not playing golf, right Joe? ;)