CM Punk rips into WWE on the way out.

[Romo 2 Austin]

.WHAT CM PUNK SAID AT THE END OF RAW INCLUDING MENTIONS OF COLT CABANA, PAUL HEYMAN, BROCK LESNAR, NEW JAPAN, RING OF HONOR, AND THE MCMAHON FAMILY
by Richard Trionfo @ 11:53 PM on 6/27/2011

Here is what CM Punk said after the R Truth/John Cena match on tonight’s episode of Raw. This is not a full transcript of what he said, but covers what he said.
Punk takes a seat as he tells John Cena that while he lays there hopefully as uncomfortably as he can possibly be. He wants Cena to digest some of the things that Punk wants to get off his chest before he leaves in three weeks with Cena’s title. He doesn’t hate John and he actually likes John. He says that he likes Cena a hell of a lot more than most of the people in the back.

He hates the idea that Cena is the best because he is not. Punk says that he is the best and the best in the world. There is one thing that Cena is better at and that is kissing Vince McMahon’s ***.

Punk says that Cena is just as good as Hulk Hogan was. He doesn’t know if Cena is as good as Dwayne because he is a pretty good *** kisser and still is. Punk says that he is breaking the fourth wall and he waves to the camera. Punk reiterates that he is the best wrestler in the world. He has been the best since day one when he walked into the company and he has been vilified and hated since that day because Paul Heyman saw something in him that nobody else wanted to admit.

Punk says that he is a Heyman guy and he says that another person who was a Paul Heyman man was Brock Lesnar. Brock split just like he is splitting. Punk says that the biggest difference between him and Brock is that he is leaving with the WWE Championship.

Punk says that he has grabbed at so many of Vince McMahon’s imaginary brass rings that it dawned on him that they are completely imaginary and the only thing that is real is him. The fact that day in and day out for almost six years he has proven to everybody in the world that he is the best. He is the best on the microphone, in the ring, and even on commentary. Nobody can touch him.

Yet no matter how many times he has proven it, he is not on the lovely little collector cups, he’s not on the cover of the program, he’s barely promoted, he doesn’t get to be in movies, he certainly not on any crappy programs on USA Network. He isn’t on the poster for Wrestlemania, he isn’t on the signature that’s produced at the start of the show. He’s not on Conan O’Brien, he isn’t on Jimmy Fallon. Punk says that he should be.

He says that this isn’t sour grapes. The fact that Dwayne is in the main event of Wrestlemania next year and he isn’t makes Punk sick. Punk wants everyone who was cheering him to know that they are the biggest part of him leaving as anyone else.

Punk says that they are sipping out of those collector cups, buy those programs that his face isn’t on the cover of. Then at five in the morning, at the airport, you shove it in my face for an autograph so you can sell it on eBay because you are too lazy to get a real job.

Punk says that he is leaving with the WWE Championship on the 17th. Who knows, maybe I’ll defend it in New Japan Pro Wrestling. Maybe I’ll go back to Ring of Honor. Hey Colt Cabana, how ya doing.

Punk says that he is leaving because of the people. After he is gone, they are going to continue to pour money into this company. Punk says that he is just a spoke on the wheel and the wheel is going to keep on turning and he understands that.

Vince McMahon is going to make money despite himself. Vince is a millionaire who should be a billionaire. He says that it is because he surrounds himself with glad handing, nonsensical, (word was omitted, but sounded a lot like d-bag), yes men like John Laurinaitis who is going to tell him everything that he wants to hear.

Maybe this company will be better after Vince McMahon is dead, but the fact is that it’s gonna get taken over by his idiotic daughter and his doofus son-in-law and the rest of his stupid family.

Let me tell you a personal story about Vince McMahon. We do this whole bully campaign . . .

At this point Punk’s mic is turned off and he gestures about being silenced by the WWE and then they go to credits.


.WHAT HAPPENED AFTER RAW WENT OFF THE AIR (AND IT HAS TO DO WITH CM PUNK)
by Richard Trionfo @ 11:16 PM on 6/27/2011

After Raw went off the air, Michael Cole announced to the crowd in Las Vegas that WWE has suspended CM Punk indefinitely.
Thanks to Bill Peterson for the report.





And as next weeks RAW is taped, not live I already know what has happened (you can too by going on PWInsider.com & it Is the end of PUNK in the wwe)

Edge & Punk out of WWE, top in ring worker, Christian??? Lollll.

[Romo 2 Austin]

& for those saying it was scripted, it wasn't. Check twitter trends for info, I'm on phone. Proof enough is they would never mention RING OF HONOR espesically since come september they are on broadcast TV

[RoyTheHammer]

And as next weeks RAW is taped, not live I already know what has happened (you can too by going on PWInsider.com & it Is the end of PUNK in the wwe)

Edge & Punk out of WWE, top in ring worker, Christian??? Lollll.

Christian the top in ring worker?

Are you out of your mind?

[Romo 2 Austin]

WWE ANNOUNCES PUNK SUSPENSION, VINCE MCMAHON COMMENTS
by Mike Johnson @ 12:30 AM on 6/28/2011

WWE issued the following:
Raw’s abrupt conclusion Monday night was not due to technical difficulties. The decision to suddenly end the broadcast in that manner was made by WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon, who gave this quote to WWE.com:

“CM Punk was suspended indefinitely for his unprofessional conduct as soon as Raw went off the air.”

With his WWE contract expiring on July 17, one can only assume that this suspension effectively terminates CM Punk’s tenure with WWE.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Christian the top in ring worker?

Are you out of your mind?

Who else is left? Who's above him?

[RoyTheHammer]

Who else is left? Who's above him?

What does Christian bring in the ring exactly, in your opinion?

He has no speed, no power, nothing special about him at all. He's a stick figure who's lucky that he gets the name recognition that he has from all his time in the business.

As for the promo, dude.. i hate to break it to you, but just by reading what you posted i can tell its a work.

[RoyTheHammer]

And as next weeks RAW is taped, not live I already know what has happened (you can too by going on PWInsider.com & it Is the end of PUNK in the wwe)

Edge & Punk out of WWE, top in ring worker, Christian??? Lollll.

BTW.. i read the preview as well.

Punk is reinstated next week. Imagine that. :eek:

[zrinkill]

Thanks to Roy's quoting I got to see a mark buying a work hook line and sinker.

Thank you Roy ....... :laugh2:

Hilarious .......

[RoyTheHammer]

I apoligize for spoiling the outcome next week btw, didn't think before i posted that up. My bad.

[zrinkill]

I apoligize for spoiling the outcome next week btw, didn't think before i posted that up. My bad.

I think we all already knew what was gonna happen .... well almost everyone :laugh2:

I just love that WWE are taking chances again ...... gonna be a great summer.

[RoyTheHammer]

I think we all already knew what was gonna happen .... well almost everyone.

I just love that WWE are taking chances again ...... gonna be a great summer.


Saying everyone pretty much knew what was going to happen (which is true) and then saying the WWE is taking chances again are contradictory statements. Aside from that promo, which was pretty cool, they have the same guys facing each other week in and week out, doing the same 5 moves each, with generally the same outcomes and no advancement in the fueds at all.

I thought it was just smackdown, but after watching Raw tonight, i see they arn't innocent of it either. The best part of the entire show (besides the awesome Punk promo) was either the tornado tag match with Swagger, Riley, etc.. or the promo where Michaels comes in and superkick's Macyntyre with the one and only.. D. D. P.

[Romo 2 Austin]

BTW.. i read the preview as well.

Punk is reinstated next week. Imagine that. :eek:

That part wasnt up yet, your right it's a work. Historic angle last night, and next weeks main event segment looks insane as well. Problem is next week is taped so instead of the rating being popped it will probably even out at the same old 3.1 3.2, which is a shame.

[Romo 2 Austin]

What does Christian bring in the ring exactly, in your opinion?

He has no speed, no power, nothing special about him at all. He's a stick figure who's lucky that he gets the name recognition that he has from all his time in the business.

As for the promo, dude.. i hate to break it to you, but just by reading what you posted i can tell its a work.

In WWE he hasn't had many great matches but his tenure in TNA was fantastic, check out some matches on youtube

[Romo 2 Austin]

Thanks to Roy's quoting I got to see a mark buying a work hook line and sinker.

Thank you Roy ....... :laugh2:

Hilarious .......

Sometimes it doesn't hurt to believe, should try it some time instead of being so bitter all the time

[Yakuza Rich]

Still sounds like a work to me and sounds exactly like what WCW did with Pillman back in 96.




YR

[Romo 2 Austin]

Michaels was gold last night as usual, loved the segment with DDP & McIntyre, hope McIntyre gets a push in the future he has real potential

[Phoenix]

Punk was freaking hilarious. Awesome promo.

http://www.gerweck.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/258920_2118014800628_1553516737_2177321_2277659_o. jpg

[zrinkill]

Punk was freaking hilarious. Awesome promo

It was great ...... they have been building this angle for a long time.

Vince or HHH or whoever is behind this is a genius.

Punk is the pied piper using twitter ..... and the marks are following him wherever he wants them to go.

[DallasGirl50]

It was great ...... they have been building this angle for a long time.

Vince or HHH or whoever is behind this is a genius.

Punk is the pied piper using twitter ..... and the marks are following him wherever he wants them to go.

Just illustrates that when you have a skilled wrestler who has great mic skills what a company can do. My guess would be this is HHH's handiwork. I agree..Punk was great last night.

[Manwiththeplan]

& for those saying it was scripted, it wasn't.

everything in pro wrestling is scripted.

[big dog cowboy]

for those saying it was scripted, it wasn't.

everything in pro wrestling is scripted.
:bow:

[zrinkill]

everything in pro wrestling is scripted.

:laugh2:

:bow:

[BraveHeartFan]

LMFAO!!!!

CM Punk is officially the best thing going in the world of wrestling today. It's so hilarious how this thread was started and pushed as if Punk was really in trouble and that he'd really pulled a shoot on the WWE.

LMAO! I love how some people fell for that hook line and sinker. That is so awesome. Great job to Punk and everyone else who is behind the idea of this angle. Great work.

[BigWillie]

Still sounds like a work to me and sounds exactly like what WCW did with Pillman back in 96.




YR

Of course it was a worked shoot. R2A was just markin' hard last night thinking it was a shoot.

Paul Heyman, Joey Styles, JBL .. tons of guys have gotten permission for worked shoots over the years and said some pretty controversial things that made people think it was a shoot.

Granted Vince was probably shocked himself that Punk said a couple of the things he did. But once Vince seen how people were buzzin' about the promo, I would guess the old man was grinning from ear to ear.

[BraveHeartFan]

Of course it was a worked shoot. R2A was just markin' hard last night thinking it was a shoot.

Paul Heyman, Joey Styles, JBL .. tons of guys have gotten permission for worked shoots over the years and said some pretty controversial things that made people think it was a shoot.

Granted Vince was probably shocked himself that Punk said a couple of the things he did. But once Vince seen how people were buzzin' about the promo, I would guess the old man was grinning from ear to ear.

Yep. No doubt.

[DallasGirl50]

Best mic work by a wrestler in a good many moons....and very clever writing. Now people are interested & will watch if only to see what else is next. Brilliant stuff...he called HHH a doofus. HHH probably was the first guy waiting for him backstage to congratulate him. Or Vince.

[silverbear]

In WWE he hasn't had many great matches but his tenure in TNA was fantastic, check out some matches on youtube


TNA sucks...

Here endeth the lesson...

[silverbear]

Sometimes it doesn't hurt to believe, should try it some time instead of being so bitter all the time

ROTFLMAO... anybody who "believes" wrestling needs to stop watching it...

I mean, I get a kick out of it, but you take it WAAAAAAY too seriously...

[The30YardSlant]

Maybe they could get a couple of these meatheads together and actually hold a real, unscripted fight for once. Until then, it's just a bunch of grown men staging professional slapfights, and they're all childish "punks" in my book.

[zrinkill]

Maybe they could get a couple of these meatheads together and actually hold a real, unscripted fight for once. Until then, it's just a bunch of grown men staging professional slapfights, and they're all childish "punks" in my book.

Here we go again ......

[BraveHeartFan]

Maybe they could get a couple of these meatheads together and actually hold a real, unscripted fight for once. Until then, it's just a bunch of grown men staging professional slapfights, and they're all childish "punks" in my book.


Awesome. Thanks for sharing that with us.

[RoyTheHammer]

Maybe they could get a couple of these meatheads together and actually hold a real, unscripted fight for once. Until then, it's just a bunch of grown men staging professional slapfights, and they're all childish "punks" in my book.

So don't watch it? :confused:

[Hostile]

So don't watch it? :confused:This, and spare us all future commentary too.

[Hoofbite]

So what happened.

[RoyTheHammer]

Michaels was gold last night as usual, loved the segment with DDP & McIntyre, hope McIntyre gets a push in the future he has real potential

Agree on McIntyre. Need to see more of him, Swagger, Ziggler, Reks.. and DDP on Raw. ha.

[The30YardSlant]

I will say though that wrestling gave us one of the greatest .gifs ever

http://www.4thletter.net/gavok/wwf/santinorecord.gif

[zrinkill]

I will say though that wrestling gave us one of the greatest .gifs ever

http://www.4thletter.net/gavok/wwf/santinorecord.gif

Looks like what happened to you when you entered this thread.

[RoyTheHammer]

Looks like what happened to you when you entered this thread.

:laugh2:

[The30YardSlant]

Looks like what happened to you when you entered this thread.

Yeah

Here we go again ......


Awesome. Thanks for sharing that with us.

You guys really brought it. Lolz. I was literally sitting here thinking it just felt like a roided-up cretin with face paint and a cape clotheslined me in front of thousands of adolescents and thirty-somethings who still live in their mother's basement. I truly aspire to your level of enlightenment.

[zrinkill]

You guys really brought it. Lolz.


Nothing we did ...... you looked like a doofus all by yourself.

Just like Santino ...... of course he does it on purpose.

[The30YardSlant]

Nothing we did ...... you looked like a doofus all by yourself.

Just like Santino ...... of course he does it on purpose.

I have no idea who that is, which in the context of this discussion is probably a good thing.

Do you like Jerry Springer as well? Because it's literally the exact same thing. The only difference is the physical makeup of the actors. People wonder why other countries think we're a bunch of idiots who love violence, and then sit down in anticipation of what the Rock is gonna be cookin this week and who said what about someone's lack of testicular fortitude.

[RoyTheHammer]

People wonder why other countries think we're a bunch of idiots who love violence, and then sit down in anticipation of what the Rock is gonna be cookin this week and who said what about someone's lack of testicular fortitude.

Other countries like the 145 others that the WWE broadcasts in?

You should probably just go man..

[The30YardSlant]

Other countries like the 145 others that the WWE broadcasts in?

Uh, so does Jerry Springer. That's the point homeslice.

People wonder why other countries think we're a bunch of idiots who love violence

[RoyTheHammer]

Uh, so does Jerry Springer. That's the point.

So you're saying we should worry what people who watch WWE think of us because we watch things like the WWE?

Flawless logic.. again, move on man.

[The30YardSlant]

So you're saying we should worry what people who watch WWE think of us because we watch things like the WWE?

Flawless logic.. again, move on man.

People see it, laugh and think that is what America is. It's part of their perception of us. You ever flip through the channels, see one of those off the wall Mexican game shows and think "what the hell is wrong with them"? Mexico sees the WWE and wonders what the hell is wrong with us. You know how American talk shows joke about France being pansies and surrendering easily? Well French talk shows mock Springer and pro wrestling and associate that with America. During my time in Europe in college I saw it all the time. The BBC has humorous segments dedicated to American crap like that.

[RoyTheHammer]

People see it, laugh and think that is what America is. It's part of their perception of us. You ever flip through the channels, see one of those off the wall Mexican game shows and think "what the hell is wrong with them"? Mexico sees the WWE and wonders what the hell is wrong with us. You know how American talk shows joke about France being pansies and surrendering easily? Well French talk shows mock Springer and pro wrestling and associate that with America. During my time in Europe in college I saw it all the time. The BBC has humorous segments dedicated to American crap like that.

So you're telling me the people in those 145 countries that the WWE broadcasts in just are flipping through the TV, see it, laugh, and turn away from it?

You're sounding more dumb with each post.. please, just go. You're out of your element Donnie.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Agree on McIntyre. Need to see more of him, Swagger, Ziggler, Reks.. and DDP on Raw. ha.

McIntyre has the most potential though, from what ive seen he has Cena, Austin etc; level potential.

[The30YardSlant]

So you're telling me the people in those 145 countries that the WWE broadcasts in just are flipping through the TV, see it, laugh, and turn away from it?

That's exactly what I'm saying. Viewership does not directly correlate with personal enjoyment. Hell, you don't even need great ratings in other countries in order to be shown. Dozens of shows from the food network, A&E, etc. are also shown across the globe. I gurantee you no more than six people in Brazil have ever tuned into "Flip This House", but that doesnt mean it isnt broadcast every week there.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Agree on McIntyre. Need to see more of him, Swagger, Ziggler, Reks.. and DDP on Raw. ha.

McIntyre has the most potential though, from what ive seen he has Cena, Austin etc; level potential. He has that unique good looks, that special trait(awesome accent), good in the ring & he seems to be great on the stick. He has it all.

[Romo 2 Austin]

TNA sucks...

Here endeth the lesson...

Your wrong, but ok.

[zrinkill]

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Then you are even more foolish than you have looked in this thread.

And I must tell you, that is an accomplishment.

[The30YardSlant]

Then you are even more foolish than you have looked in this thread.

And I must tell you, that is an accomplishment.

No more foolish than someone who doesnt understand how broadcasting rights work.

[RoyTheHammer]

That's exactly what I'm saying. Viewership does not directly correlate with personal enjoyment. Hell, you don't even need great ratings in other countries in order to be shown. Dozens of shows from the food network, A&E, etc. are also shown across the globe. I gurantee you no more than six people in Brazil have ever tuned into "Flip This House", but that doesnt mean it isnt broadcast every week there.

Dude.. the WWE is a huge company. They go where the demand is. They aren't going to continue to program in countries where there isn't a fan base or a demand. That's bad business. Think before you speak man. I understand your point about the world having reasons to hate us as a country, but the WWE is not one of them. They have a huge global fanbase.

[The30YardSlant]

Dude.. the WWE is a huge company.

So is the NBA. Wanna guess what the ratings were for the Finals in England this year?

They go where the demand is. They aren't going to continue to program in countries where there isn't a fan base or a demand.

That isnt how it works at all. The WWE doesnt give a crap about how many people watch so long as they get the broadcast revenue. The only people who would care about the ratings are the networks, but many small countries don't even monitor ratings and others simply want to have "American" TV to show, both because American tourism is one of the world's leading industries and because people are curious about the culture of America. You'd be foolish to think that most peiople who watch WWE in other countries are actually natives who watch t because they can't get enough.

That's bad business. Think before you speak man. I understand your point about the world having reasons to hate us as a country, but the WWE is not one of them.

It's great business, the WWE gets network revenue. As long as people are willing to pay to broadcast them, they don't care.

They have a huge global fanbase.

The only nations on Earth where WWE registers as more than a statistical blip on the ratings scale are the US, Canada, England and the UAE. Not coincidentally, those are the four countries with the highest number of American citizens and/or tourists at any one time. Go figure. :rolleyes:

[Hostile]

This, and spare us all future commentary too.Oh well, I could hope.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Whether or not wrestling is stupid has nothing to do w/ America. Who cares what England thinks? Why so insecure?

The entire world gobbles up our culture and entertainement. Let them pick and choose what parts of it they want

The people who like wrestling are probably more entertained by the stroylines and characters then the actual wrestling. I know thats how it usually was for me when I was a kid.

[RoyTheHammer]

Whether or not wrestling is stupid has nothing to do w/ America. Who cares what England thinks? Why so insecure?

The entire world gobbles up our culture and entertainement.

England actually loves WWE. They tour their all the time and always sell out arenas over in Europe when they go.

WWE has and will continue to have a huge global fanbase. So the same countries that criticize us, are the same ones buying into our culture and entertainment, as you said mb. They're just as hypocritical as we are.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Plus from what I hear it's barely violent these days. At least nothing close to the Mankind days.

I don't watch anymore but I'll check in for a Rock match here or there or something. Just like soccer isn't my thing but I won't cover my eyes if I hear there's a big match on at some point.

There are a few things I will cover my eyes for. Harry potter is one. You Lose me when you invent an entirely new universe and Dan make up rules as you go. WFC

American idol is another

[daschoo]

People see it, laugh and think that is what America is. It's part of their perception of us. You ever flip through the channels, see one of those off the wall Mexican game shows and think "what the hell is wrong with them"? Mexico sees the WWE and wonders what the hell is wrong with us. You know how American talk shows joke about France being pansies and surrendering easily? Well French talk shows mock Springer and pro wrestling and associate that with America. During my time in Europe in college I saw it all the time. The BBC has humorous segments dedicated to American crap like that.

People who don't like wrestling don't look at it as proof that America is stupid, my girlfriend for example thinks I'm stupid for watching it not that America is for producing it. The biggest company on the planet happens to be american but there are federations based in most countries. I know of at least 3 for example here in Scotland so it would be pretty ridiculous to claim its an american thing. Since you brought up Mexico it would probably be worth you checking the history of wrestling in that country before deciding what impact wrestling being popular in yours has on their opinion of you.
French talk shows may well mock Jerry Springer, I know it gets mocked here, to be fair it also gets mocked in the U.S. does it not? I've never spent much time in France but I know in this country we have shows like http://www.itv.com/lifestyle/jeremykyle/ so Jerry Springer and its audience are mocked not the country for having his show.
Also just thought i'd mention that in 29 years of watching the BBC most days I can't say I know what humorous segments you're referring to.
Without going into the politics of it or giving any opinions on it I think its fair to say that American foreign policy has more of a bearing on how you are viewed as a country by others than whether or not you watch wrestling.

[daschoo]

So is the NBA. Wanna guess what the ratings were for the Finals in England this year?
That isnt how it works at all. The WWE doesnt give a crap about how many people watch so long as they get the broadcast revenue. The only people who would care about the ratings are the networks, but many small countries don't even monitor ratings and others simply want to have "American" TV to show, both because American tourism is one of the world's leading industries and because people are curious about the culture of America. You'd be foolish to think that most peiople who watch WWE in other countries are actually natives who watch t because they can't get enough.
It's great business, the WWE gets network revenue. As long as people are willing to pay to broadcast them, they don't care.
The only nations on Earth where WWE registers as more than a statistical blip on the ratings scale are the US, Canada, England and the UAE. Not coincidentally, those are the four countries with the highest number of American citizens and/or tourists at any one time. Go figure. :rolleyes:

People in England as a general rule don't watch the NBA. It doesn't mean anything other than basketball, unlike the WWE, isn't particularly popular in that country.
I think you're over estimating how important other people think you are. Most countries do not buy the rights to broadcast WWE so that American tourists will visit which seems to be your argument. If locals didn't watch it then TV companies would not buy it. I'd also doubt that Americans who are on holiday in London will choose to sit up until 4 o'clock on a Monday night/Tuesday morning to watch Raw, I certainly don't see them staying up in the numbers required for the biggest sports broadcasting network in the country to show it live just to accommodate them. We do get some terrible American shows broadcast here but that means that we "just want American TV shows" no more than terrible domestic programming means we're xenophobic regarding our TV programming or we're obsessed by Australian shows because we have a lot of Aussie **** on our teles.
I will agree that WWE doesn't care about marketing to an international audience. That's not a criticism, their money predominantly comes from the U.S. so they are entirely correct to focus on that market and change it slightly when on tour.

[Ren]

People see it, laugh and think that is what America is. It's part of their perception of us. You ever flip through the channels, see one of those off the wall Mexican game shows and think "what the hell is wrong with them"? Mexico sees the WWE and wonders what the hell is wrong with us. You know how American talk shows joke about France being pansies and surrendering easily? Well French talk shows mock Springer and pro wrestling and associate that with America. During my time in Europe in college I saw it all the time. The BBC has humorous segments dedicated to American crap like that.

Terrible example, Pro wrestling is about a billion times more popular in Mexico then anywhere else on the planet.

[zrinkill]

Terrible example, Pro wrestling is about a billion times more popular in Mexico then anywhere else on the planet.

The guy is completely clueless.

Do not waste your time.

[DallasGirl50]

Just put him on ignore....

[Romo 2 Austin]

People see it, laugh and think that is what America is. It's part of their perception of us. You ever flip through the channels, see one of those off the wall Mexican game shows and think "what the hell is wrong with them"? Mexico sees the WWE and wonders what the hell is wrong with us. You know how American talk shows joke about France being pansies and surrendering easily? Well French talk shows mock Springer and pro wrestling and associate that with America. During my time in Europe in college I saw it all the time. The BBC has humorous segments dedicated to American crap like that.

WWE Raw the highest rated show in mexico drawing a 9.0, WWE smackdown is second with 8.4s.

I don't think nearly 10% of the country is watching to say what's wrong with the USA LULZ.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Whether or not wrestling is stupid has nothing to do w/ America. Who cares what England thinks? Why so insecure?

The entire world gobbles up our culture and entertainement. Let them pick and choose what parts of it they want

The people who like wrestling are probably more entertained by the stroylines and characters then the actual wrestling. I know thats how it usually was for me when I was a kid.

I Prefer the actual wrestling

[DallasGirl50]

McIntyre has the most potential though, from what ive seen he has Cena, Austin etc; level potential. He has that unique good looks, that special trait(awesome accent), good in the ring & he seems to be great on the stick. He has it all.

When he first came on he was supposedly the next big thing...that fizzled out quickly. Now he's basically just midcard..maybe they still have big plans for him.

[zrinkill]

When he first came on he was supposedly the next big thing...that fizzled out quickly. Now he's basically just midcard..maybe they still have big plans for him.

He had some real life drama with his wife who was wwe diva Tiffany ..... she got fired and they both missed time for it.

I think Vince is punishing him for that.

[Phoenix]

So was this the best work/shoot since this? :D

vswZ73WETpc

[DallasGirl50]

He had some real life drama with his wife who was wwe diva Tiffany ..... she got fired and they both missed time for it.

I think Vince is punishing him for that.

Could be...something happened. He faded fast & I don't think he was hurt.

[BraveHeartFan]

LMFAO!!!! They laugh at USA for wrestling, in Mexico?

You mean that country where they have a HUGE lucha libre following and tons of people watch and enjoy wrestling?

This is why people who don't watch, and don't like it, shouldn't bother coming into threads about wrestling to give their two cents on the subject. Almost every time their two cents isn't even worth that because they are clueless as to what they're talking about.

I mean whats next? You gonna try and sell people that they don't watch, or like, wrestling in Japan either? lol

But, by all means, keep trolling on. Hopefully they'll just ban you, eventually, for doing it and then everyone will be spared your ignorance.

[Phoenix]

LMFAO!!!! They laugh at USA for wrestling, in Mexico?

You mean that country where they have a HUGE lucha libre following and tons of people watch and enjoy wrestling?

This is why people who don't watch, and don't like it, shouldn't bother coming into threads about wrestling to give their two cents on the subject. Almost every time their two cents isn't even worth that because they are clueless as to what they're talking about.

I mean whats next? You gonna try and sell people that they don't watch, or like, wrestling in Japan either? lol

But, by all means, keep trolling on. Hopefully they'll just ban you, eventually, for doing it and then everyone will be spared your ignorance.



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[dargonking999]

so who knows when the rock's next match is? And can we get one against punk?

[BraveHeartFan]

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Funny picture. lol


so who knows when the rock's next match is? And can we get one against punk?

His next one that is actually known, for sure, is WM next year. So, at this time, not until April against John Cena.

[cowboys#1]

wwe pg :laugh2:

[DallasGirl50]

Rock has either already started or will be soon working on a new movie. About G.I. Joe I think.

[casmith07]

I can't believe people still watch this stuff.

[Phoenix]

I can't believe people still watch this stuff.



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[MarionBarberThe4th]

I Prefer the actual wrestling

Yea theres no way I believe that.

All these wrestling threads seem to be about favorite heels and what-not. And the actual matches were always pretty run of the mill if it wasnt on PPV.

I can't believe people still watch this stuff.

If Im flipping around Ill give it 60 seconds over baseball. At least people are actually moving. As for following it I was out when they merged

[Aikmaniac]

Rock has either already started or will be soon working on a new movie. About G.I. Joe I think.

Yep, he'll be Ro in the new GI Joe movie.

[zrinkill]

Yep, he'll be Ro in the new GI Joe movie.

Wonder if he will do something with Sergeant Slaughter on WWE :laugh2:

[DallasGirl50]

Rock was smart to leave wrestling when he did. He left at the height of his popularity..he wasn't all beat up & he has built himself a nice movie career. He's a good looking guy. He can play in chick flicks..action movies..or kids stuff. And he can still do the WWE stuff & make a big splash.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Yea theres no way I believe that.

All these wrestling threads seem to be about favorite heels and what-not. And the actual matches were always pretty run of the mill if it wasnt on PPV.



If Im flipping around Ill give it 60 seconds over baseball. At least people are actually moving. As for following it I was out when they merged

Then you don't read my posts, it's the reason I prefer John Morrison, Bryan Danielson & Aj Styles too Rock, Austin & Cena and that is the matches.



And that is the case in WWE, not TNA or ROH, both which I watch. You don't know me so you should believe it since it's fact lol, if I want drama I'll watch 24, I wont wAtch soap opera lite on Monday night

[Romo 2 Austin]

Rock was smart to leave wrestling when he did. He left at the height of his popularity..he wasn't all beat up & he has built himself a nice movie career. He's a good looking guy. He can play in chick flicks..action movies..or kids stuff. And he can still do the WWE stuff & make a big splash.

He shouldnt do wrestling... Bad decision makes 6$m a movie+, wouldnt make that in a year of WWE.

Plus he's the most overrated performer of all time, I miss the hurricane more than the rock.

[WackoGirl]

Rock was smart to leave wrestling when he did. He left at the height of his popularity..he wasn't all beat up & he has built himself a nice movie career. He's a good looking guy. He can play in chick flicks..action movies..or kids stuff. And he can still do the WWE stuff & make a big splash.

Nice movie career? His movies are not only terrible, he is a terrible actor, he needs to stick to wrestling which is something that he is good at

[Romo 2 Austin]

Nice movie career? His movies are not only terrible, he is a terrible actor, he needs to stick to wrestling which is something that he is good at

His wallet disagrees

[zrinkill]

Nice movie career? His movies are not only terrible, he is a terrible actor

:rolleyes:

[WackoGirl]

:rolleyes:

So you think Dwayne is the best actor ever and the Tooth Fairy the best movie ever? Whatever floats your boat

[DallasGirl50]

He shouldnt do wrestling... Bad decision makes 6$m a movie+, wouldnt make that in a year of WWE.

Plus he's the most overrated performer of all time, I miss the hurricane more than the rock.

I don't judge wrestlers by your criteria..you can think whatever you want about Rock being overrated..just the fact that you mentioned Hurricane & Rock in the same sentence is goofy. He's as big time as there has ever been in wrestling..and my favorite mic guy ever.

[zrinkill]

So you think Dwayne is the best actor ever and the Tooth Fairy the best movie ever? Whatever floats your boat

Is that what I said?

I think he is just as good an actor as every other action star.

If you do not like that ....... go float yourself.

[DallasGirl50]

Nice movie career? His movies are not only terrible, he is a terrible actor, he needs to stick to wrestling which is something that he is good at

Yes he has a nice career going in the movies...he makes action movies and the Disney kid stuff. I don't think Pacino is losing sleep over losing a part to Rock but he does make alot of money..his movies do as well for the most part I think. He got out of wrestling at the perfect time for him.

[WackoGirl]

Is that what I said?

I think he is just as good an actor as every other action star.

If you do not like that ....... go float yourself.

Like Stone Cold Steve Austin?

We just have different opinions, that is all

[zrinkill]

Like Stone Cold Steve Austin?

Can you not read?

I said like EVERY other action star.

From Diesel to Schwarzenegger.

They are not known for their acting abilities ..... they are known for playing cool characters who are bad***es.

If you do not like action movies ...... do not watch them.

[WackoGirl]

Can you not read?

I said like EVERY other action star.

From Diesel to Schwarzenegger.

They are not known for their acting abilities ..... they are known for playing cool characters who are bad***es.

If you do not like action movies ...... do not watch them.

:rolleyes: I do not even watch action movies so stop whining

[zrinkill]

:rolleyes: I do not even watch action movies so stop whining

You are the one who started whining in this very thread.

And if you do not watch action movies ....... how do you know what kind of actor Rock is?

[WackoGirl]

You are the one who started whining in this very thread.

And if you do not watch action movies ....... how do you know what kind of actor Rock is?

I went to watch Faster with my friend who has nothing else to do at so that is how I knew what kind of actor Dwayne is and that is a terrible actor who can't act (Tooth Fairy anyone?)

[zrinkill]

I went to watch Faster with my friend who has nothing else to do at so that is how I knew what kind of actor Dwayne is and that is a terrible actor who can't act (Tooth Fairy anyone?)

:lmao:

Sure you did.

[Phoenix]

Like Stone Cold Steve Austin?

We just have different opinions, that is all


Good grief no. We're talkin' JESSE THE BODY VENTURA here!

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:D

[DallasGirl50]

:laugh2:

float away

You are posting logic..common sense..sometimes that goes over like a lead balloon.

[Aikmaniac]

He shouldnt do wrestling... Bad decision makes 6$m a movie+, wouldnt make that in a year of WWE.

Plus he's the most overrated performer of all time, I miss the hurricane more than the rock.

If you're a professional wrestling fan, guru, or critic, you'd be silly to make that comment.

Don't think for a second that Vince McMahon is not thankful the Rock fell into his lap (seeing as Rocky Johnson was part of the roster and Dwayne hung out with his dad throughout the years).

I guarantee if you ask everyone in the locker room that they will say The Rock is one of the best things to ever happen to the WWE and wrestling in general.

I'm curious as to what you mean by him being overrated. As a in-ring performer? No, he's not Kurt Angle or Dean Malenko as far as being the most technical wrestler, but you are mistaken if you think that makes a superstar in professional wrestling.

It's about entertainment and there is/was nobody better at it than the Rock.

Judging by your posts (about guys that will never be any higher than mid-card status), you would be better suited to watch the real stuff.

[BraveHeartFan]

Nice movie career? His movies are not only terrible, he is a terrible actor, he needs to stick to wrestling which is something that he is good at

LOL!

Right.

His wallet, and the people hiring him and making money off the movies he's in would disagree.

He can make 10 million or more a movie, or whatever it is he makes, and that is about 3 times the amount he'd make wrestling 300+ days a year.

Yeah. Terrible move on his part. LOL!

WOW.



So you think Dwayne is the best actor ever and the Tooth Fairy the best movie ever? Whatever floats your boat

I see. So saying he's not terrible equals him being the best actor ever and the Tooth Fairy the best movie ever?

LOL!!!

WOW. Again your fail in logic is on another level.




I don't judge wrestlers by your criteria..you can think whatever you want about Rock being overrated..just the fact that you mentioned Hurricane & Rock in the same sentence is goofy. He's as big time as there has ever been in wrestling..and my favorite mic guy ever.

His criteria and logic when it comes to wrestling has been proven to be so far off, so many times, that it's not even worth debating with him. The sooner everyone puts him on ignore, where he's talking to himself, the better. Then he'll go back to the 'wrestling forums' where the lemmings all agree with him.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for people liking different things and having different tastes. But I prefer people with actual opinions, and not something some forum or wrestling magazine told them was the truth, than someone who comes in here acting like everything he says and 'knows' is fact cause PWI Insider told him so.

Roy is a much better poster, and someone I enjoy discussing this with, and we don't necassarily agree on everything.

Like Stone Cold Steve Austin?

We just have different opinions, that is all

Totally different levels and I'm not surprised, given your other posts, how you don't even comprehend that.

The Rock's movies go TO THE MOVIES. Austin's movies go directly to DVD. Outside The Expendables (Probably spelled that wrong) which went to the theatre cause of Stalone and some of the other guys.

[BraveHeartFan]

If you're a professional wrestling fan, guru, or critic, you'd be silly to make that comment.

Don't think for a second that Vince McMahon is not thankful the Rock fell into his lap (seeing as Rocky Johnson was part of the roster and Dwayne hung out with his dad throughout the years).

I guarantee if you ask everyone in the locker room that they will say The Rock is one of the best things to ever happen to the WWE and wrestling in general.

I'm curious as to what you mean by him being overrated. As a in-ring performer? No, he's not Kurt Angle or Dean Malenko as far as being the most technical wrestler, but you are mistaken if you think that makes a superstar in professional wrestling.

It's about entertainment and there is/was nobody better at it than the Rock.

Judging by your posts (about guys that will never be any higher than mid-card status), you would be better suited to watch the real stuff.

Wasting your breath. Some kids on a wrestling forum (Who are apparently the pulse and voice and reason of all wrestling fans cause they're from that particular set of forums) told him that's the way it is.

[DallasGirl50]

Great posts guys...Rock was golden in the WWE.

[Romo 2 Austin]

No way I'm denying his impact and importance but I always like Stone cold 5000000x more than Rock, I always found rock stale with catch phrases that were corny. If you're a professional wrestling fan, guru, or critic, you'd be silly to make that comment.

Don't think for a second that Vince McMahon is not thankful the Rock fell into his lap (seeing as Rocky Johnson was part of the roster and Dwayne hung out with his dad throughout the years).

I guarantee if you ask everyone in the locker room that they will say The Rock is one of the best things to ever happen to the WWE and wrestling in general.

I'm curious as to what you mean by him being overrated. As a in-ring performer? No, he's not Kurt Angle or Dean Malenko as far as being the most technical wrestler, but you are mistaken if you think that makes a superstar in professional wrestling.

It's about entertainment and there is/was nobody better at it than the Rock.

Judging by your posts (about guys that will never be any higher than mid-card status), you would be better suited to watch the real stuff.

[Aikmaniac]

No way I'm denying his impact and importance but I always like Stone cold 5000000x more than Rock, I always found rock stale with catch phrases that were corny.

Seems that the fans that drop hard-earned cash and keep the WWE afloat are fond of those corny phrases since they "sing-a-long" to all of them.

I respect your opinion about not liking the Rock. There's many out there that feel the same way, but to say that is the popular opinion is just not true.

To put it into perspective, when both Stone Cold and The Rock left the WWE, I left as well. Take a poll...you'll see I wasn't the only one. In fact, check the TV ratings for the last decade or so.

[big dog cowboy]

He shouldnt do wrestling... Bad decision makes 6$m a movie+, wouldnt make that in a year of WWE.

Plus he's the most overrated performer of all time, I miss the hurricane more than the rock.
One day later, none of this makes a lick of sense to me.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Seems that the fans that drop hard-earned cash and keep the WWE afloat are fond of those corny phrases since they "sing-a-long" to all of them.

I respect your opinion about not liking the Rock. There's many out there that feel the same way, but to say that is the popular opinion is just not true.

To put it into perspective, when both Stone Cold and The Rock left the WWE, I left as well. Take a poll...you'll see I wasn't the only one. In fact, check the TV ratings for the last decade or so.

I'm not saying its the popular opinion, if I did it was a mistake as I was on my phone. Hell it is probably the most unpopular opinion you can have about wrestling, not liking The Rock, but I find him cornier than John Cena, and personally I find Cena more entertaining. Rock did the same shtick for what, 5 years? then he left, if he had stayed I would bet by 04, 05 the crowd would have turned on him has they have on Cena.

[DallasGirl50]

WHile Cena is popular he's nowhere near as popular as Rock or Austin were....they are both bigger than he will ever be.

[Romo 2 Austin]

WHile Cena is popular he's nowhere near as popular as Rock or Austin were....they are both bigger than he will ever be.

Simple circumstance, they were the top dogs in WWF during the highest point in the industrys history, Cena is the top dog in the lowest point in the industrys history in decades, only exceptions may be 94-95, and it has risen up in 2010, 2011, was lower in 08,09

[DallasGirl50]

Whatever "circumstance" you throw out there either one of them is a bigger name..more popular.

[RoyTheHammer]

Simple circumstance, they were the top dogs in WWF during the highest point in the industrys history, Cena is the top dog in the lowest point in the industrys history in decades, only exceptions may be 94-95, and it has risen up in 2010, 2011, was lower in 08,09

There's a reason they were the top dogs at the highpoint and he's the top dog at the lowpoint.. think about it.

[BraveHeartFan]

WHile Cena is popular he's nowhere near as popular as Rock or Austin were....they are both bigger than he will ever be.

Without a doubt. Its not even close.


There's a reason they were the top dogs at the highpoint and he's the top dog at the lowpoint.. think about it.

Exactly.

Nothing against Cena, the dude works his butt off for the fans and the company and I respect the hell out of him for that, but Austin and The Rock are two of the absolute biggest reasons that the hightpoint was the highpoint.

You take them out and that highpoint in popularity for wrestling never happens.

[MichaelWinicki]

I dunno, angles like this one... Well it's tiring.

Bring back the old days when a guy who was leaving a territory would spend several matches putting other guys over and then quietly leave in the night... Soon to show up somewhere else as the next great threat to that area's champion.

[BraveHeartFan]

Except that you don't have enough places out there for that type of thing to work anymore. I wish there were, that would be great, but there just isn't. They should still put people over on their way out...except in this case I don't think Punk is going out for a really long time. Probably taking time off while they work on a new deal, at least that's what I think. I could be wrong, obviously.

[MichaelWinicki]

Except that you don't have enough places out there for that type of thing to work anymore. I wish there were, that would be great, but there just isn't.


You're right. There isn't.

Someone ruined that process.

[zrinkill]

Wonder if the OP thought Cena's speech was a shoot as well.

:laugh1:

[Romo 2 Austin]

Wonder if the OP thought Cena's speech was a shoot as well.

:laugh1:

Mad I can still suspend disbelief?

[Romo 2 Austin]

WWE STARS ROBBED ON THEIR WAY TO SOUTH AFRICA
by Steven Fernandes @ 8:25 PM on 7/5/2011

Randy Orton noted on his twitter account that over half of the roster had items stolen from their checked luggage when they reached South Africa. His luggage was untouched. There were locks on the bags that were stolen from, but they were cut off.




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[big dog cowboy]

WWE STARS ROBBED ON THEIR WAY TO SOUTH AFRICA
by Steven Fernandes @ 8:25 PM on 7/5/2011

Randy Orton noted on his twitter account that over half of the roster had items stolen from their checked luggage when they reached South Africa. His luggage was untouched. There were locks on the bags that were stolen from, but they were cut off.

Vince should have borrowed Jerry's plane.