WWE Raw & SD score historically low ratings.

[Romo 2 Austin]

The 7/4 edition of Raw did a 2.4 rating

The 7/1 edition of Smackdown did a 1.63 rating with 2,333,000 viewers



The 6/30 edition of Impact did a 1.27 rating with 1,838,000 viewers, it was up 300,000 viewers and .15 in the demo from the prior week.



Discuss.

[Bonecrusher#31]

:clap2::clap2::clap2:

[DIAF]

people finally getting tired of wrestling?

[Hostile]

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/TNA_News_1/article_51240.shtml

The "limited commercial interruption" edition of Wrestling on Thursday, June 30 scored a 1.27 rating off a first hour 1.25 rating and a second hour 1.30 rating.

Impact's peak rating came in the eighth quarter-hour with a 1.36 rating. The show opened with a 1.23 rating in the first quarter-hour. It continued a trend from nine out of the last ten episodes - the Q1 rating falling below the overall show average.

Benefiting from "limited commercial interruptions," each quarter-hour was above its corresponding 2011 average. The most notable gain was in Q8 - the 1.36 rating was eleven percent above the 2011 average of a 1.22 Q8 rating.

[CATCH17]

There are no iconic wrestlers. Seriously Cena is their go to guy...


Everyones gimmick is basically the same. Not a lot of charisma swirling around these days.


Plus there is no shock value anymore because the show is for little kids.


Wrestling sucks. Their storylines suck and their talent is awful.

[Romo 2 Austin]

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/TNA_News_1/article_51240.shtml

The "limited commercial interruption" edition of Wrestling on Thursday, June 30 scored a 1.27 rating off a first hour 1.25 rating and a second hour 1.30 rating.

Impact's peak rating came in the eighth quarter-hour with a 1.36 rating. The show opened with a 1.23 rating in the first quarter-hour. It continued a trend from nine out of the last ten episodes - the Q1 rating falling below the overall show average.

Benefiting from "limited commercial interruptions," each quarter-hour was above its corresponding 2011 average. The most notable gain was in Q8 - the 1.36 rating was eleven percent above the 2011 average of a 1.22 Q8 rating.

Pretty interesting, never knew PWtorch went that indepth on ratings. Will check them out for now on for ratings.

[RoyTheHammer]

There are no iconic wrestlers. Seriously Cena is their go to guy...


Everyones gimmick is basically the same. Not a lot of charisma swirling around these days.


Plus there is no shock value anymore because the show is for little kids.


Wrestling sucks. Their storylines suck and their talent is awful.


:bow:


Im actually with you. Im watching the same two shows week after week after week..

Same matches, same order.. same results. Its ridiculous.

[Romo 2 Austin]

:bow:


Im actually with you. Im watching the same two shows week after week after week..

Same matches, same order.. same results. Its ridiculous.

TNA is radically different every week, but its in a bad way. They drop storylines for no good reason and start no-sense ones for no reason either. Remember Samoa Joe got kidnapped and then 3 weeks later he was back with no mention of it?


Just look at the WWE title and TNA title pictures:

This year WWE's legit contenders for the title have been:
John Cena & The Miz.

This year TNA's legit contenders for the title have been:
Jeff Hardy, Sting, Mr.Anderson, RVD.

[RoyTheHammer]

The 7/4 edition of Raw did a 2.4 rating

The 7/1 edition of Smackdown did a 1.63 rating with 2,333,000 viewers



The 6/30 edition of Impact did a 1.27 rating with 1,838,000 viewers, it was up 300,000 viewers and .15 in the demo from the prior week.



Discuss.

In case some were not aware btw.. 7/4 is also known as July 4th.

Independance Day.

Single most likely day of the year to not find someone camped on their fat arse in front of a TV.

lol.

[big dog cowboy]

The 7/4 edition of Raw did a 2.4 rating

The 7/1 edition of Smackdown did a 1.63 rating with 2,333,000 viewers

The 6/30 edition of Impact did a 1.27 rating with 1,838,000 viewers, it was up 300,000 viewers and .15 in the demo from the prior week.


I watch Raw every week. However Monday night I was shooting off fireworks with my family and missed the entire show. I'm betting there were many who did the same thing.

They could have had a topless diva's match and I would have stayed outside. :eek: Trust me that is saying something.

[zrinkill]

I watch Raw every week. However Monday night I was shooting off fireworks with my family and missed the entire show. I'm betting there were many who did the same thing.


That is hilarious.

Raw can have a pre-taped show, that everyone already read the spoilers on a week before, on a holiday that is known as being family oriented.

And still do over double the rating of TNA.

:laugh2:

[Sam I Am]

Honestly, I still can't figure out why people watch this in the first place. It's just a bunch of steroided up muscle heads following a script that has them acting like idiots.

What exactly makes you want to watch this? I suppose to each his own. My wife watches those stupid celebrity reality shows and I don't get that either.

[zrinkill]

Honestly, I still can't figure out why people watch this in the first place. It's just a bunch of steroided up muscle heads following a script that has them acting like idiots.

You mean like just about every action movie or action oriented TV show?

[Sam I Am]

You mean like just about every action movie or action oriented TV show?

They are not the same. Not even close. That said, there are action movies that aren't worth watching either.

[DallasGirl50]

I dunno..to me this is a really simple issue. If you don't like pro wrestling do not watch! And yet posters come on here..they hate it and yet they know the wrestlers names..know about matches. Makes no sense. Don't watch it. Why waste your time?and then waste more time coming to a wrestling thread telling everyone how much you hate it...

[zrinkill]

They are not the same. Not even close.

Why? because you do not like it?

That would be just like someone going in the "game of thrones" thread and asking why people like watching this crap about a bunch of meat heads fighting with play swords and a midget with a hot girl.

Actually that sounds a lot like wrestling. :laugh2:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/nycmidgegame.jpg

[Aikmaniac]

Do these numbers also include DVR-recordings? Can Nielsen track it that way?

The reason I ask is I imagine many did the fireworks thing and still had the DVR set to record.

I tried watching Raw and couldn't make it past 15 minutes.

It's horrible...I'm just wondering how Vince keeps selling the houses out week after week.

[BraveHeartFan]

Wow. Surprise surprise. The shows, especially RAW, did lower ratings on 4th of July and 4th of July weekend.

I'm in shock that this happened. No, really, I am. Shocked. Can't you tell?

lol

[RoyTheHammer]

Wow. Surprise surprise. The shows, especially RAW, did lower ratings on 4th of July and 4th of July weekend.

I'm in shock that this happened. No, really, I am. Shocked. Can't you tell?

lol

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

He sounds shocked.

lol

[Phoenix]

Wow. Surprise surprise. The shows, especially RAW, did lower ratings on 4th of July and 4th of July weekend.

I'm in shock that this happened. No, really, I am. Shocked. Can't you tell?

lol


Yep. Who'd've thunk it?

[Romo 2 Austin]

Do these numbers also include DVR-recordings? Can Nielsen track it that way?

The reason I ask is I imagine many did the fireworks thing and still had the DVR set to record.

I tried watching Raw and couldn't make it past 15 minutes.

It's horrible...I'm just wondering how Vince keeps selling the houses out week after week.

He doesn't. SD rarely draws more than 3-4k, RAW 5-6k. Long gone are the days of 20k houses weekly

[DallasGirl50]

I was just @ a house show very recently in Houston..it was not full ...did not expect it to be though since the arena seats maybe 15K. They must be making money though or there would be no more house shows. You don't continue to do that year after year with no profit.

[cowboys#1]

nobody likes the 'pg' era

i would watch again if it had some blood, tables, n sexier women

[cowboys#1]

i dont watch raw anymore but i bet they still have a womens division right?

nobody watches women wrestle. just have them as managers who interfere like the old days. diva champion? lol who cares

[Hostile]

He doesn't. SD rarely draws more than 3-4k, RAW 5-6k. Long gone are the days of 20k houses weeklySmackdown last week was here in Arizona. There was a lot more than 4k there.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Smackdown last week was here in Arizona. There was a lot more than 4k there.

They had a ppv draw 6500 in may, possibly April. They do a good job of making it seem like more people than it actually is.

[DallasGirl50]

nobody likes the 'pg' era

i would watch again if it had some blood, tables, n sexier women

You really must not watch the women very carefully...most of them wear very skimpy ring attire...and almost every single one are walking advertisements for breast implants. Seriously..they are athletic but they are hired for sex appeal.

[big dog cowboy]

Smackdown last week was here in Arizona. There was a lot more than 4k there.

They are coming here next month and I guarantee you at least 7,000-7500 or more there.

[Ren]

Why? because you do not like it?

That would be just like someone going in the "game of thrones" thread and asking why people like watching this crap about a bunch of meat heads fighting with play swords and a midget with a hot girl.

Actually that sounds a lot like wrestling. :laugh2:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/nycmidgegame.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/nycmidgegame.jpg)

Mexican wrestling has a lot better midgets :laugh2:

http://www.thealexshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/499px-QueMonito.jpg

[BraveHeartFan]

You folks are wasting your time on the numbers with the kid. Some kids on a wrestling website told him there is never more than 3-4k there so it's absolutely 100% the truth with him.

Never mind that several people here have mentioned how that hasn't been the case at any of the house shows they've gone to.

I highly doubt anyone sells out all their house shows, or ever even did on a weekly basis even when it was hot (though I could easily be wrong about that) cause they're house shows.

They're not intended to draw 25k every show.

[DallasGirl50]

If house shows weren't profitable WWE would just stop having them...to change the subject I just watched the recording of Impact. Whatever they are paying Sting it isn't enough..how embarrassing. I hate to watch one of my favorites reduced to acting so stupid. And there is no doubt who the best wrestler is on there...Kurt by a mile. That dude is great. He's an all time great.

[BraveHeartFan]

If house shows weren't profitable WWE would just stop having them...to change the subject I just watched the recording of Impact. Whatever they are paying Sting it isn't enough..how embarrassing. I hate to watch one of my favorites reduced to acting so stupid. And there is no doubt who the best wrestler is on there...Kurt by a mile. That dude is great. He's an all time great.


Also who didn't see Mr. Anderson joining Immortal coming? That was a done deal since Immortal began. That was completely predictable and such a waste.

[DallasGirl50]

Also who didn't see Mr. Anderson joining Immortal coming? That was a done deal since Immortal began. That was completely predictable and such a waste.

I use to like Anderson..not so much anymore. Not for the heel turn but his little vignettes are horrid. Even Hogan is better than he is @ that. In ring he's still good. Can't get over Sting! I'd retire before I would do that crap..bad Ledger impersonation. Just awful. Like Jerry Lynn. Good wrestler.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I use to like Anderson..not so much anymore. Not for the heel turn but his little vignettes are horrid. Even Hogan is better than he is @ that. In ring he's still good. Can't get over Sting! I'd retire before I would do that crap..bad Ledger impersonation. Just awful. Like Jerry Lynn. Good wrestler.

I love the Joker stuff

[DallasGirl50]

I would rather never see Sting do anything wrestling related than watch that stupid stuff...it is embarrassingly bad.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I would rather never see Sting do anything wrestling related than watch that stupid stuff...it is embarrassingly bad.

I don't see how you don't enjoy it, it's a fantastic gimmick. Shouldn't have been put on Sting, but it's still a fantastic gimmick.

[DallasGirl50]

Well it was a great movie with a fabulous performance by Heath...really a perfect performance. It's dumb on a wrestling show & Sting can't pull it off without looking foolish.

[BraveHeartFan]

The Joker thing...eh....it's not awful. It's not great.

I like the idea the problem is there just really aren't to many people that can, or would, pull that off in a cool way. Quite frankly there isnt' a single wrestler today I'd put that gimmick on and expect it to be done well.


Still it's not horrible but it's a really horrible idea for Sting, IMO.

[dargonking999]

I had an awseme idea for the money in the bank PPV event.

John Cena loses his title to CM punk, but before CM punk can get out of the ring, winner of the money in the bank ladder match comes out with the briefcase and wins back the WWE title.

CM punk gets his win, John Cena doesn't get fired cause CM punk didn't leave with the title, and we get a new WWE champion for however long.

If only the WWE brass was cool enough to do that.

[BraveHeartFan]

I had an awseme idea for the money in the bank PPV event.

John Cena loses his title to CM punk, but before CM punk can get out of the ring, winner of the money in the bank ladder match comes out with the briefcase and wins back the WWE title.

CM punk gets his win, John Cena doesn't get fired cause CM punk didn't leave with the title, and we get a new WWE champion for however long.

If only the WWE brass was cool enough to do that.

That would be pretty cool if that's how it played out. Unfortunately it won't. lol

[Phoenix]

That would be pretty cool if that's how it played out. Unfortunately it won't. lol


Oh sure it will...and here's the new champion-to-be! :D


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f131/vsmith23/wrestler_dance_250-2.gif (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f131/vsmith23/wrestler_dance_250-2.gif)

[DallasGirl50]

The Joker thing...eh....it's not awful. It's not great.

I like the idea the problem is there just really aren't to many people that can, or would, pull that off in a cool way. Quite frankly there isnt' a single wrestler today I'd put that gimmick on and expect it to be done well.


Still it's not horrible but it's a really horrible idea for Sting, IMO.

i am sure Marvel or somebody owns the rights to that character...it's an obvious ripoff..I'd sue! J/K...but Sting is a very close second to Taker as my favorite. I hate it!

[DallasGirl50]

I had an awseme idea for the money in the bank PPV event.

John Cena loses his title to CM punk, but before CM punk can get out of the ring, winner of the money in the bank ladder match comes out with the briefcase and wins back the WWE title.

CM punk gets his win, John Cena doesn't get fired cause CM punk didn't leave with the title, and we get a new WWE champion for however long.

If only the WWE brass was cool enough to do that.

good idea...you should send your resume to WWE.

[Ren]

I had an awseme idea for the money in the bank PPV event.

John Cena loses his title to CM punk, but before CM punk can get out of the ring, winner of the money in the bank ladder match comes out with the briefcase and wins back the WWE title.

CM punk gets his win, John Cena doesn't get fired cause CM punk didn't leave with the title, and we get a new WWE champion for however long.

If only the WWE brass was cool enough to do that.

You give the WWE writers far to much credit

[Hostile]

I thought the Joker stuff with Hogan and Sting was awful. One thing I do not like about TNA is the backstage footage. They try too hard to be documentary.

[Phoenix]

Punk was pretty good again tonight on Raw I thought...WWE Ice Cream Bars...LMAO :laugh2:

[zrinkill]

Punk was pretty good again tonight on Raw I thought...WWE Ice Cream Bars...LMAO :laugh2:

Wonder how many people still think this gimmick is real?

I know of one on this board.

[Phoenix]

Colt Cabana getting quite famous out of all of this lol...the crowd was actually chanting his name ha ha :laugh2:

[zrinkill]

I thought the Joker stuff with Hogan and Sting was awful.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/stingjoker.jpg

Really awful.

[DallasGirl50]

Punk got a bigger pop than John in John's hometown no less....at the PPV in Punk's hometown it will be pro Punk as well. I missed some of the show but I heard alot of Punk chants.

[zrinkill]

EXCLUSIVE: Further Update on CM Punk and Vince McMahon's Negotiation

According to several key WWE insiders, the meeting was private, between McMahon and Punk, and none of the writing staff or the agents have been notified of the outcome of the negotiation.

"Vince is keeping this only within the inner circle," one key insider leaked this evening, "and the negotiation may not even be over yet."

http://www.ringsidenews.com/news/exclusive-further-update-on-cm-punk-and-vince-mcmahon-s-negotiation/

:p:

[Ren]

Punk got a bigger pop than John in John's hometown no less....at the PPV in Punk's hometown it will be pro Punk as well. I missed some of the show but I heard alot of Punk chants.

It was the best Raw in ages cause of all the Punk stuff. I think Punk has reach the point now where no matter what he does heel or face he'll be loved. I really hope they let this play out and don't just end it with Cena winning

[big dog cowboy]

Punk got a bigger pop than John in John's hometown no less....at the PPV in Punk's hometown it will be pro Punk as well. I missed some of the show but I heard alot of Punk chants.
Absolutely correct.

I heard as many boos for Cena as cheers.

[Hostile]

It was the best Raw in ages cause of all the Punk stuff. I think Punk has reach the point now where no matter what he does heel or face he'll be loved. I really hope they let this play out and don't just end it with Cena winningPrediction...Punk aligns himself with McMahon.

[zrinkill]

Prediction...Punk aligns himself with McMahon.

Which would lead to that feud with Stone Cold.

[RoyTheHammer]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/stingjoker.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/zrinkill/stingjoker.jpg)

Really awful.

Wow.. zrin doesn't like something TNA is doing? What else is new.

:rolleyes:

[RoyTheHammer]

Punk got a bigger pop than John in John's hometown no less....at the PPV in Punk's hometown it will be pro Punk as well. I missed some of the show but I heard alot of Punk chants.

He's the only guy i know who can completely work a crowd to do whatever he wants them too all the time.

He insults them every night and still gets them to cheer him later on.

[DallasGirl50]

Punk is pretty much flawless on the mic...you never get the feeling he is being anybody but himself..which makes for a convincing gimmick. He was sooo much better than Cena last nite...

[zrinkill]

Wow.. zrin doesn't like something TNA is doing? What else is new.

:rolleyes:

Pot meet Kettle

[zrinkill]

Punk is pretty much flawless on the mic...you never get the feeling he is being anybody but himself..which makes for a convincing gimmick. He was sooo much better than Cena last nite...

He really is taking his game too another level.

[RoyTheHammer]

Pot meet Kettle

Go back to your new forum.

Nah.. actually i give props where they are due. Its called being objective.. something you'd know little about.

There's things every wrestling company does well, and doesn't do well. Lately, most companies do very few things well.. and that's the problem.

[RoyTheHammer]

He really is taking his game too another level.

He's really not.. its amazing what people are capable of when they are allowed to say certain things though, isn't it?

[zrinkill]

something you'd know little about.

:rolleyes:

Wanna compare good things said about both companies?

[zrinkill]

He's really not..

:rolleyes:

So you are just here to argue?

Let me save you the time ........ ***** *****

[RoyTheHammer]

So you are just here to argue?

Let me save you the time ........ ***** *****

Cool stars bro.

Is this still a message board? Oh so we can discuss the topic then.

Punk has always been great on the mic.. he's not stepping his game up, his game has always been at a top level. The only differenced is the leeway he's being given by the creative dept now. He can say and do things he wasn't previously allowed to do.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Punk's been doing what he always has done, he's just saying the truth about the sad pathetic state the DUBBLE DUBBLE E is in, and it's getting over huge, since it's all facts.

[zrinkill]

he's not stepping his game up

He built an interest outside of WWE control using twitter and his personal website.

Vince noticed this and is trying to capitalize on it.

That is stepping up your game ....... Vince respects that.

[RoyTheHammer]

He built an interest outside of WWE control using twitter and his personal website.

Vince noticed this and is trying to capitalize on it.

That is stepping up your game ....... Vince respects that.

lol

Punk could have been doing that for years if they would have given him more leeway with what he was allowed to do and say.

All his interest he's built up has been pretty much from that one episode of RAW to the present.. when they gave him the leeway to cut that sick promo.

Case in point.

[zrinkill]

All his interest he's built up has been pretty much from that one episode of RAW to the present.. when they gave him the leeway to cut that sick promo.

You are not giving Punk enough credit here.

He has been working on this for months ...... it has been a thing of beauty.

You think they just out of the blue told him to speak "his mind" last 2 weeks ago?

please .....

[RoyTheHammer]

:rolleyes:

Wanna compare good things said about both companies?

Yes, actually. I've stated numerous good things about TNA, which im sure you won't debate.

As for the WWE, i've stated my interest in their production value being vastly superior, the in ring talents that i enjoy that are up and coming, including Zig, Sheamus, McIntyre, and Swagger. The old school guys that are still there that are my favorites of all time HHH and Stone Cold (when they are on). Guys like Punk, even said Del Rio has grown on me a little.

However, the WWE still does alot of things badly right now. Repetition being the biggest problem. The creative dept is severly lacking, and it probably has alot to do with the amount of freedom they have in coming up with logical wrestling fueds.. because they have to stay PG and avoid any mention of wrestling or sports. Some of that is just silly. For the past month or two, smackdown has been a repeat of itself over and over again. Same matches, same order, same results for the most part.. with the main event usually changing slightly, but including the same cast of characters.

There are clearly problems with both companies right now, but as with both shows i DVR and skim through to the parts that are watchable.

[RoyTheHammer]

You are not giving Punk enough credit here.

He has been working on this for months ...... it has been a thing of beauty.

You think they just out of the blue told him to speak "his mind" last 2 weeks ago?

please .....

Have you heard him, or anyone, cut a promo like this in the past few years?

Of course not.. people have had a very short leash.. if you even listened to Punk's promo you should already know this.

[DallasGirl50]

He really is taking his game too another level.

Yea he is..he's been fun to watch.

[DallasGirl50]

Punk's been doing what he always has done, he's just saying the truth about the sad pathetic state the DUBBLE DUBBLE E is in, and it's getting over huge, since it's all facts.

Get your head out of the sand...they knew what he was going to say..that is scripted & rehearsed for the most part. He is probably one of the best at improvising..shades of Rock...but that was planned...Lordy!

[Romo 2 Austin]

Get your head out of the sand...they knew what he was going to say..that is scripted & rehearsed for the most part. He is probably one of the best at improvising..shades of Rock...but that was planned...Lordy!

I didn't say it wasn't planned? Once I wokeup the day after I admitted it was a work. I was just so excited that WWE would actually be heading in an entertaining direction for once I assumed it had to be a work.


He has been given the freedom to state facts, and it's getting over huge. That's what I said.

[DallasGirl50]

You make me laugh R2A...perhaps what should be said is that Punk is a consumate actor...an excellent wrestler...& this storyline conceived months ago has made the product fun to watch. And again he is doing what they tell him to do...it is scripted! There is no personal freedom here...he's TOLD what to say. This is acting. You don't seem to get that.

[Romo 2 Austin]

You make me laugh R2A...perhaps what should be said is that Punk is a consumate actor...an excellent wrestler...& this storyline conceived months ago has made the product fun to watch. And again he is doing what they tell him to do...it is scripted! There is no personal freedom here...he's TOLD what to say. This is acting. You don't seem to get that.

No. Punk is given creative freedom, he is given points to hit and hits them.

Former Creative team member John Piermarini has said that multiple times, along with people such as Orton, Cena, HHH, Etc; Punk has been given the privilege to write his own scripts, he has to hit a few points that creative directs him too, and then run it by an agent and then you hear what came from Punks mind, not a member of the creative team. That's how it works with pretty much every top guy.


Is it acting? Yes, for most of the "entertainers" in WWE, sadly..

[DallasGirl50]

You believe whatever you want R2A...you always do.

[Aikmaniac]

No. Punk is given creative freedom, he is given points to hit and hits them.

Former Creative team member John Piermarini has said that multiple times, along with people such as Orton, Cena, HHH, Etc; Punk has been given the privilege to write his own scripts, he has to hit a few points that creative directs him too, and then run it by an agent and then you hear what came from Punks mind, not a member of the creative team. That's how it works with pretty much every top guy.


Is it acting? Yes, for most of the "entertainers" in WWE, sadly..

What are you saying here, bro?

This is all a big angle by and for the WWE through Vince McMahon.

[BraveHeartFan]

Cool stars bro.

Is this still a message board? Oh so we can discuss the topic then.

Punk has always been great on the mic.. he's not stepping his game up, his game has always been at a top level. The only differenced is the leeway he's being given by the creative dept now. He can say and do things he wasn't previously allowed to do.

I agree with you here. Punk has ALWAYS been amazing on the mic when he's given the freedom to work the storyline anyway he'd like and such.

Go watch some Punk in the Indy's and ROH and you'll see tons of great promo work where he's got his total control of what he's doing and how they're going to work their angles.


I do think he's stepping up though from even the greatness that he normally has to another level because he's being allowed to let go here. Which is awesome. I am a huge Punk fan, have been for years, and it's absolutely great to see him getting to let go right now. Love it.

[Romo 2 Austin]

You believe whatever you want R2A...you always do.


Of course i do, why would I not?
Dont think you understand what i meant though, of course its an angle, but its not 100% scripted. Punk has been given creative freedom on the mic, he has had it since summer 09 fued w J.Hardy

[zrinkill]

What are you saying here, bro?

This is all a big angle by and for the WWE through Vince McMahon.

Been so for months ......

[Romo 2 Austin]

Been so for months ......

Id still bet hes leaving, legitamitally.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Another bad rating for raw


The 7/11 edition of Raw did a 2.9 rating, with 4,386,000 viewers

[Ren]

Id still bet hes leaving, legitamitally.


Seems like they're setting him up for a face turn, they would not show this much commitment to him unless they feel really good about getting him to re-sign. If he was dead set on leaving for good they would not go trough all this build up. My guess is he'll sign a new deal but take a break for a while. Probably show up again at the royal rumble or something, that seems to be where they have people return

[Romo 2 Austin]

Seems like they're setting him up for a face turn, they would not show this much commitment to him unless they feel really good about getting him to re-sign. If he was dead set on leaving for good they would not go trough all this build up. My guess is he'll sign a new deal but take a break for a while. Probably show up again at the royal rumble or something, that seems to be where they have people return

Exactly what i think, i bet they have an agreement he cant work for TNA or mexico companys, but can for ROH and japan companys. #30 at the rumble, and whc or wwe title shot at mania is what i expect aswell

[JustDezIt]

Exactly what i think, i bet they have an agreement he cant work for TNA or mexico companys, but can for ROH and japan companys. #30 at the rumble, and whc or wwe title shot at mania is what i expect aswell

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[Romo 2 Austin]

Seems like they're setting him up for a face turn, they would not show this much commitment to him unless they feel really good about getting him to re-sign. If he was dead set on leaving for good they would not go trough all this build up. My guess is he'll sign a new deal but take a break for a while. Probably show up again at the royal rumble or something, that seems to be where they have people return

Yvd3aEsThbc

Love that video, dont get the point it was posted for.

[RoyTheHammer]

R2A is actually right.. he isn't told what to say.. just what topics he's not allowed to touch most likely. Its not like they give him a script to memorize though.

[BraveHeartFan]

Agreed. The top guys are given what they call bullet or flash points. Things the creative want them to touch on, for feud and character purposes, but guys like Punk are given creative freedom to word and call the promo how they want to.

Austin, Rock, Foley, HHH, HBK, Taker, Jericho all the guys like that have had that ability. It's part of being a top guy. They're given a very basic outline of "Hey we'd like you to hit on these 3 topics. No go get them." and the superstars themselves just do their promos.

[JustDezIt]

Love that video, dont get the point it was posted for.

someone takin wrestling way too serious. just saw it for the first time actually and had laughed my way thru this thread yesterday so i came back to drop it in here

[Aikmaniac]

Seems like they're setting him up for a face turn, they would not show this much commitment to him unless they feel really good about getting him to re-sign. If he was dead set on leaving for good they would not go trough all this build up. My guess is he'll sign a new deal but take a break for a while. Probably show up again at the royal rumble or something, that seems to be where they have people return

Face turn to face who?

There's not a heel to rival him unless they get Orton to turn again.

I think he'll stay heel long enough to get Austin or Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

[DallasGirl50]

Would not be shocked to see Punk win...Vince come out in a rage to "fire" Cena...and it ends up being a Punk/Vince plot to get the belt. They could write it any number of ways but we already know Vince will be involved.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Would not be shocked to see Punk win...Vince come out in a rage to "fire" Cena...and it ends up being a Punk/Vince plot to get the belt. They could write it any number of ways but we already know Vince will be involved.

I HOPE it goes


Punk wins, mitb winner cashes in and loses, Punk says only way he will defend title is for a shot at WHC, Punk v. Orton set for WM. With punk not in a match until then but doing vingettes

Imagine the buyrate, new undisputed championship & rock returning taker 20-0 etc, could top 1.25m buys


Most likely if they go this way itd be for summerslam and Orton would win though

[DallasGirl50]

As I said before Vince will be a part of whatever happens. I have already purchased the PPV...will see what happens. Orton & Punk were in the last WM...I personally would rather see a different match but they were awesome. I use to not like Orton & he is now one of my favorites.

[Phoenix]

I have already purchased the PPV..

Sweet! I'll show up half an hour before the start with beer :D

[DallasGirl50]

If you aren't bringing food don't bother to show up...

[Phoenix]

I didn't know that Dory Funk Jr and Terry Funk went to my alma mater before today...or that their dad Dory was very affiliated with the place for years!

[RoyTheHammer]

The Rock responds to Cena



Hate Cena.. but he was right.

[Aikmaniac]

Wonder Woman wristbands...haha.

The Rock is the man.

[BraveHeartFan]

The Rock always cracks me up. The guy is hilarious.

[Yeagermeister]

Was the sound in the Rock video really low for anyone else?

[Aikmaniac]

Was the sound in the Rock video really low for anyone else?

Yes it was. The camera's mic wasn't the best apparently.

[DallasGirl50]

The Rock always cracks me up. The guy is hilarious.

He is really funny...and a nice guy.

[zrinkill]

Last night's post-Money in the Bank episode of WWE RAW scored a 3.2 cable rating with 4.83 million viewers. This week's show did hours of 3.15 and 3.29.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Last night's post-Money in the Bank episode of WWE RAW scored a 3.2 cable rating with 4.83 million viewers. This week's show did hours of 3.15 and 3.29.

That's still down from the year-to-date average, which is frightening that they may pull back on this angle because of it.