Do you want the Fan Zone and Daily Zone forums combined?

[Reality]

We would like to know if you want the Fan Zone and Daily Zone combined into one forum? The new forum would be called the Fan Zone.

Keep in mind that we have relaxed our thread moving policies to the Daily Zone somewhat due to the mad rush of news related threads since the lockout ended.

Our normal policy would be to move those kinds of threads to the Daily Zone almost immediately which means the Fan Zone would be primarily for only fan created discussions and the Daily Zone for snippets and summaries of articles, recaps, tweets, etc. from other news sources.

#reality

[jobberone]

No. Keep it the way it is. We changed it for good reasons.

PS: You could make this into a poll.

[JBell523]

Yes.. I never check the Daily Zone.

Some good articles go unnoticed because I bet a lot of people don't visit that section often either.

[Boyzmamacita]

I like the idea of coming to one forum for all news and fan created discussions. Combining the two would be a great idea. And I don't mind tweets like some posters do. The more news/rumors/recaps etc., the better.

[CATCH17]

I hated it when it was split up at first but I actually think it was a good idea looking back on it.

Just leave it the way it is.

[viman96]

Another yes vote. I never liked the idea of spliting them in the first place. In additon it is more busy work for the mods.

[Risen Star]

No. I think you have a good thing going with the split forums. The reason being you have too many fan rambling threads that would push the news off the first page.

[Jenky]

No. I think you have a good thing going with the split forums. The reason being you have too many fan rambling threads that would push the news off the first page.

Exactly this ^.

[Go Big D!]

No. I think you have a good thing going with the split forums. The reason being you have too many fan rambling threads that would push the news off the first page.

agreed.

I like that the news is separate from the conversational threads. Sometimes there are so many silly threads (like yesterday) going that threads with substance drop off.

If I've been away from the forum for a while, I know where to go to catch up on Cowboys' news....the Daily Zone. And then I don't have to wade through fodder for the substance.

[ThreeSportStar80]

No I like them separate...

[theogt]

I can't tell you the last time I went to the Daily Zone except by accident. I'm sure there's information I've missed, but I'm not going to navigate two separate forums and if there's something worth discussing it's probably in the Fan Zone.

[Romo 2 Austin]

I never look at the daily zone, if it was in the fan zone the topics I probably would.

Or atleast rename it, daily zone sounds stupid, passible, probably gets much less views than Fan Zone, im confident it does. Call it Hot News zone, or Daily News zone atleast, something along those lines.

[Dallas]

I think it's unfortunate that the actual legit NEWS sources are not kept seperate from the

FanBlog
BeatBlog
TweetBlogs

If hope that the legit national stuff can keep being seperate from the tweets and mundane blog content.

I enjoy going to the Daily Zone to see actual articles from Peter King and Mosley and CBSSPORTS/FOXSPORTS writers etc.

The little fan stuff I feel, is fine in the Fan Zone. Hence the name, I thought.

Coordinated organization is a GOOD thing btw. You know where to go for legit articles and you know where to go for discussion and blog info and tweet info.

[fortdick]

Another yes vote. I never liked the idea of spliting them in the first place. In additon it is more busy work for the mods.

Screw the mods, it's what they get paid for ....

nevermind

:D

[Everlastingxxx]

I never check the daily zone. Keep it simple and in one spot. If it’s a good opinion/article it will stay on the top.

[Cajuncowboy]

Keep it like it is. News and articles in one place, fan discussions (and whining and moaning) in another.

It was a great move and was made for good reasons.

Imagine the number of valid news articles that would get lost in the mess of complaint threads when Red doesn't run/pass enough?

[Iago33]

I don't go to the Daily Zone because I don't want to have to go to an external site to see if there is any useful news. I liked the Daily Zone before the snippits rule--but I understand the reason for the rule.

[tupperware]

Or you could just ban cowboyjoe from creating new threads and leave him with reply only access.

[Go Big D!]

I don't go to the Daily Zone because I don't want to have to go to an external site to see if there is any useful news. I liked the Daily Zone before the snippits rule--but I understand the reason for the rule.

I understand/know the reasoning behind the snippits rule but it is frustrating when somebody starts a thread and there is only a link in the OP. They should have to put at least a sentence or two snippit, in the OP, relating to the thread topic.

[Cajuncowboy]

I understand/know the reasoning behind the snippits rule but it is frustrating when somebody starts a thread and there is only a link in the OP. They should have to put at least a sentence or two snippit, in the OP, relating to the thread topic.

They do include a line or two from the beginning of the article.

[Go Big D!]

They do include a line or two from the beginning of the article.

The mods do but not everyone does that.

For example one of the threads on the front page:

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214488

(not using this to single anyone out, just using it as an example)

[Cajuncowboy]

The mods do but not everyone does that.

For example one of the threads on the front page:

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214488

(not using this to single anyone out, just using it as an example)

Gotcha. Yes, they should include at least the first two sentences.

[JonJon]

Leave them separate. It makes it much easier to find fan created discussions.

[hutch1254]

No. I think you have a good thing going with the split forums. The reason being you have too many fan rambling threads that would push the news off the first page.

This totally ^.

[chip_gilkey]

Well judging by the poll results you guys have your work cut out for you in making this decision. :laugh2:

[67CowboysFan]

I think if they get combined the news would get pushed off the first page when you have something like Nnamdi mania going on.

[tupperware]

I think if they get combined the news would get pushed off the first page when you have something like Nnamdi mania going on.
Not really, it could just be a thread that the other discussions about Namndi get merged in to. It's pretty much how it functions now anyway. Just use the news item / headline post to be the first post and news follows it. As it stands, this pretty much happens anyway, I never visit the daily zone and I'm sure others don't either.

It's a little redundant if you ask me, since news items do get posted to the fan zone and discussions take place because of them.

I think if anything, there needs to be a twitter zone. Not every single tweet deserves its own thread.

[hutch1254]

Not really, it could just be a thread that the other discussions about Namndi get merged in to. It's pretty much how it functions now anyway. Just use the news item / headline post to be the first post and news follows it. As it stands, this pretty much happens anyway, I never visit the daily zone and I'm sure others don't either.

It's a little redundant if you ask me, since news items do get posted to the fan zone and discussions take place because of them.

I think if anything, there needs to be a twitter zone. Not every single tweet deserves its own thread.

If there is going to be anything added or moved it should be a cowboyjoe zone. Good Lord, I appreciate the passion but he has spurts that push entire pages off pages. STOP.

[tupperware]

If there is going to be anything added or moved it should be a cowboyjoe zone. Good Lord, I appreciate the passion but he has spurts that push entire pages off pages. STOP.
:laugh2::laugh2:

[NorTex]

Definitely combine them. I'm usually in a hurry to see what's going on in Cowboysland and find it frustrating to have to search 2 forums for what interests me. I've been here a long time but have been mostly frequenting another forum because of the ease of which they provide me information.

Just my two cents.

[tomson75]

Definitely prefer them separate.

I like not having to wade through a ton of BS and smilies to get my news fix from time to time. If the two are combined, there will be a TON of good, newsworthy information that will be pushed back by the more popular threads with people *****ing back and forth at one another. No thanks.

It's nice the way it is. Having an area that is relatively free of agenda and hyperbole is a great asset to this forum. IMO, if they're combined, you lose that.

[TheSkaven]

I can't tell you the last time I went to the Daily Zone except by accident. I'm sure there's information I've missed, but I'm not going to navigate two separate forums and if there's something worth discussing it's probably in the Fan Zone.

What he said. :) I never liked the idea of splitting them years ago and it would love to see them combined again. I rarely visit the Daily Zone.

[Duane]

I hated the idea of separating them when it happened but it's been one of the best things you've done on the board. So I'd like them kept separate.

[SkinsandTerps]

So much better seperate than combined like it used to be.
And I have my pages set at 40 posts per.

[Hypnotoad]

protested the split and now I never check daily zone - maybe a different post icon to differentiate more serious/more relevant posts so everyone is happy.

[NorthTexan95]

No. Keep it the way it is. We changed it for good reasons.


This!

[LandryFan]

We would like to know if you want the Fan Zone and Daily Zone combined into one forum? The new forum would be called the Fan Zone.

Keep in mind that we have relaxed our thread moving policies to the Daily Zone somewhat due to the mad rush of news related threads since the lockout ended.

Our normal policy would be to move those kinds of threads to the Daily Zone almost immediately which means the Fan Zone would be primarily for only fan created discussions and the Daily Zone for snippets and summaries of articles, recaps, tweets, etc. from other news sources.

#reality
I like them seperate. During the season (and any time there's lots going on, such as Draft, FA, etc.), it's tough enough to keep up with the threads in the Fan Zone, as it is. Adding in all the articles from the Daily Zone would make it even more difficult to keep up with. Thanks.

[iceberg]

We would like to know if you want the Fan Zone and Daily Zone combined into one forum? The new forum would be called the Fan Zone.

Keep in mind that we have relaxed our thread moving policies to the Daily Zone somewhat due to the mad rush of news related threads since the lockout ended.

Our normal policy would be to move those kinds of threads to the Daily Zone almost immediately which means the Fan Zone would be primarily for only fan created discussions and the Daily Zone for snippets and summaries of articles, recaps, tweets, etc. from other news sources.

#reality

i honestly never go to the daily zone.

[jazzcat22]

Really kind of split on this. I like the idea of seeing all threads in one place. to be able to read all the latest articles as I go down the list of threads.

But I voted no, as it is very nice to just go and be able to read the articles without sifting through all the user created discussions and threads and tweets.

Especially on gameday articles and reviews. Actually can a forum be added that lists links to highlight videos if anyone posts them. just a thought, if there are enough to list.

[justbob]

How about a up zone and down zone..The down zone would give the whiners,trolls , chicken littles and Jerry hater a place to meet and plan their mass suicide:)

[SA_Gunslinger]

No way.

The Fan forum is already too crowded b/c people make 30 different threads on the same topic. I like having the news in one place and the fan talk in another.

:star:

[Sportsbabe]

I thought Daily Zone was for official writers/articles and links, and Fan Zone was for wanna-be writers manifestos, ravings and rants.

[Sportsbabe]

How about a up zone and down zone..The down zone would give the whiners,trolls , chicken littles and Jerry hater a place to meet and plan their mass suicide:)

Church.

[Robbieac]

I never go to the Daily Zone. If they were combined, the worthy articles and discussions will stay towards the top.

[Primetime42]

I think during the season, hell no. The reasons have already been explained ad nauseum by others.

But in the offseason, when nothing is really going on, it wouldn't be a bad thing at all.

[poke]

i was thinking of asking if you could add a twitter zone so i could avoid
twitter threads

[tupperware]

i was thinking of asking if you could add a twitter zone so i could avoid
twitter threads
Agreed, if anything THIS is what the forum needs. The news items that are worthy of discussing will be discussed and keep a spot on the first page.

Every time a player goes to the bath room doesn't need a thread.

[VThokie7]

i was thinking of asking if you could add a twitter zone so i could avoid
twitter threads

I agree some of the twitter threads are worthless and probably don't even need to be posted. But at the same time you need to accept that twitter is how news is broken these days. So to say nothing from twitter can be posted in the fan zone would be a huge mistake. Random meaningless posts from players? Sure, but legit news from twitter has its place.

[iceberg]

I agree some of the twitter threads are worthless and probably don't even need to be posted. But at the same time you need to accept that twitter is how news is broken these days. So to say nothing from twitter can be posted in the fan zone would be a huge mistake. Random meaningless posts from players? Sure, but legit news from twitter has its place.

i wouldn't say it's how news is broken. it's how gossip can spread and the potential for news, sure. but someone twitting around in 140 characters or less in sext'ing style doesn't really means it's news.

[VThokie7]

i wouldn't say it's how news is broken. it's how gossip can spread and the potential for news, sure. but someone twitting around in 140 characters or less in sext'ing style doesn't really means it's news.

Pretty sure if you following the right people like Schefter, Mort, and Glazer you can be confident its not "gossip" and frankly where do you think the free agent signings were broken? Has nothing to do with "style" it has everything to do with convenience if you don't understand it or appreciate it that's your decision. But its not going away.

[tupperware]

Pretty sure if you following the right people like Schefter, Mort, and Glazer you can be confident its not "gossip" and frankly where do you think the free agent signings were broken? Has nothing to do with "style" it has everything to do with convenience if you don't understand it or appreciate it that's your decision. But its not going away.
Yeah I gotta agree here. We wouldn't of found out that Namndi was going to the Jets without Schefters up to the second tweeting.

[VThokie7]

Yeah I gotta agree here. We wouldn't of found out that Namndi was going to the Jets without Schefters up to the second tweeting.

Yes because there is never any false information in any other information medium? And when was that posted as fact? Do you understand what speculation is? Or do you believe everything you read online?

Guarentee you find out news faster on Twitter when something happens than you will on TV or any website.

[tupperware]

Yes because there is never any false information in any other information medium? And when was that posted as fact? Do you understand what speculation is? Or do you believe everything you read online?

Guarentee you find out news faster on Twitter when something happens than you will on TV or any website.
My point was that basically, because of the ease and quickness with which you can post things to twitter, the garbage to fact ratio is much much higher. So while you may get it quicker, you may also be getting a load of bull quicker.

[ConcordCowboy]

Never understood the need to split them in the first place.

[CowboyMcCoy]

I hated it when it was split up at first but I actually think it was a good idea looking back on it.

Just leave it the way it is.

I adjusted too. And I don't like change. But I'm on board with the majority if they want it.

Get out and vote, though.

[The Emperor]

Please don't. Having a Daily Zone makes my show prep that much easier.

[JoeCorrado]

I almost never visit the daily zone, and just a quick glance there this morning shows that most threads there don't get much discussion, in fact the entire daily zone seems to always have only a relatively few number of people viewing it at any time compared to the fan zone.

I disagree that important topics would be pushed of the first page. ANY "active" topic will maintain it's front page status till something more important to the fans arrives to move it down the line... as it should be. And I expect that most people don't simply view the first page of a forum, but click through at least the first several several pages.

I say combine the two. Let the most active topics compete for front page status. Survival of the fittest, so to speak.

[jterrell]

i'd say combine them to make a Hot Zone.

you could then rename the daily zone to the all-star zone and reserve it for really good articles, threads or posts. it would be a motivating factor to get better posts coming in.

[panchucko]

If combined I would probably see more articles, since I hardly every go to the Daily Zone.

[DCBoysfan]

No. Keep it the way it is.

[MadCow]

I hardly ever check the Daily Zone. I say combine the two but only if its an overwhelming majority vote.

[Sam I Am]

I do not even read the DailyZone. I know there is stuff in there that I would be interested in reading, but I already read at least four different ones now. I don't need another. Merge them.

[StanleySpadowski]

Merge them then put in a "grown up" zone in it's place. Only allow intelligent conversations about the Cowboys without the trolls that have slowly turned this place into "cesspool light".

[stasheroo]

In my opinion, nothing kills a thread like moving it from the Fan Zone does.

[gmoney112]

I like having them separate. For "Official" news I check the Daily, sifting through poster's opinions in the populated Fan Zone to find official information is tedious.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Green Hill Zone!

[Robbieac]

In my opinion, nothing kills a thread like moving it from the Fan Zone does.

QFT.....

This point simply cannot be countered.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Uh Oh, here comes the tyranny of the majority.

Quick!

Think about all the lame beat writers we'd like to beat with a broom stick!

Think about Jennifer Floyd Engle!

Do you really want vomit posted in the main forum when it's busy?

Ed Werder?

I mean, this could effect the attention and integrity of those "I told you so posts".

Just food for thought before the voting ends.

[Fletch]

I like the idea of coming to one forum for all news and fan created discussions. Combining the two would be a great idea. And I don't mind tweets like some posters do. The more news/rumors/recaps etc., the better.

I'm with her!

[SkinsandTerps]

Sounds like most people that want a merger so, simply because they are too lazy to click on another forum ?

[bbgun]

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/9752/doyouwantthefanzoneandd.png

[REDVOLUTION]

I dont agree with De-Categorization.

[CowboyMcCoy]

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/9752/doyouwantthefanzoneandd.png

You beast.

[67CowboysFan]

Something to think about, between the two categories right now there are 9 stickies. Unless I counted wrong there is 27 threads listed on the first page of the Fan Zone. Do you really want the top 1/3 of the Fan Zone to be Stickied?

[Reality]

Something to think about, between the two categories right now there are 9 stickies. Unless I counted wrong there is 27 threads listed on the first page of the Fan Zone. Do you really want the top 1/3 of the Fan Zone to be Stickied?

That would not be the case if the forums are merged .. we tend to use the Daily Zone as a sticky holder because that forum is underused right now. It has more sticky threads than normal because I moved most out so this poll would get more attention.

#reality

[Silverstar]

Combine them and then change the quick links to...

Home - Fan Zone - Draft Zone - NFL Zone - Guidelines - Chat



JMO

[baj1dallas]

I honestly don't care, which I'm sure that should mean something, but I don't know what that is.

[proline]

Don't combine them:)

But in addition, can you consider providing support for tapatalk http://www.tapatalk.com/plugin.php? I believe it is FREE for the forum owners and vBulletin is supported. It would make browsing the forum on a mobile device simpler and more enjoyable.

[REDVOLUTION]

Sometimes its something as simple as name change /branding


change this

Quick Links: Home | Daily Zone | Fan Zone | Draft Zone | Guidelines | Chat




to this

Quick Links: Home | Cowboys News | Fan Zone | Draft Zone | Guidelines | Chat

[Chuck 54]

So often the same articles get posted in both places anyway.

Have the FAN FORUM for all articles and opinions.

Maybe replace the DAILY FORUM with something new and creative...maybe the SOCIAL NETWORK FORUM where someone who follows all the twitter accounts, etc. can post that stuff, maybe even with links to certain pages to make it easier for fans to follow. Or maybe the BEAT WRITERS FORUM or maybe a PRE-POST GAME FORUM where people can post anything they want about the next game or the current game...and not limit fans to putting all their game posts in one thread. I understand the reason for that when it's part of the FAN FORUM, but it's sort of annoying when the thread gets so many pages long. I actually like seeing lots of threads with different titles so I can choose some to respond to without scouring 10 pages, and because it would be replaced each week, say every Wednesday, it really wouldn't matter if there were what some refer to as duplicate threads. It would let everyone have their fun leading up to game day and during the game and for a day or two afterwards...the format might actually help some of us move on after a tough one the way the players do.

Just an idea.

[tupperware]

So often the same articles get posted in both places anyway.

Have the FAN FORUM for all articles and opinions.

Maybe replace the DAILY FORUM with something new and creative...maybe the COWBOYJOE FORUM where someone who stalks all the twitter accounts, etc. can post that stuff, maybe even with links to certain pages to make it easier for fans to follow. Or maybe the BEAT WRITERS FORUM or maybe a PRE-POST GAME FORUM where people can post anything they want about the next game or the current game...and not limit fans to putting all their game posts in one thread. I understand the reason for that when it's part of the FAN FORUM, but it's sort of annoying when the thread gets so many pages long. I actually like seeing lots of threads with different titles so I can choose some to respond to without scouring 10 pages, and because it would be replaced each week, say every Wednesday, it really wouldn't matter if there were what some refer to as duplicate threads. It would let everyone have their fun leading up to game day and during the game and for a day or two afterwards...the format might actually help some of us move on after a tough one the way the players do.

Just an idea.
FIFY.

[Dallas]

I hate change. :mad:

Reality, if you change the Zone around, I will be SO BLASTED TICKED off.


I might threaten to leave the Zone and start my own board.


Oh wait...................................


nm :laugh2:

[tupperware]

I hate change. :mad:

Reality, if you change the Zone around, I will be SO BLASTED TICKED off.


I might threaten to leave the Zone and start my own board.


Oh wait...................................


nm :laugh2:
Call Reality and threaten to cancel your CowboysZone membership unless he keeps the Daily Zone. If he gives you a hard time wait 5 minutes and call Hostile.

[StevenOtero]

I never check the daily zone. Keep it simple and in one spot. If it’s a good opinion/article it will stay on the top.:hammer:

[Apollo Creed]

I haven't checked the daily zone in 4 years if that says anything.

[ZeroClub]

I'd prefer combined.

Somewhat related question: Is there anyway to get more than 25 threads listed on a page? (not counting stickied threads)

[tupperware]

I'd prefer combined.

Somewhat related question: Is there anyway to get more than 25 threads listed on a page? (not counting stickied threads)
If you remove your avatar I'll tell you about a neat little Firefox extension. (Assuming you use FF)

[Sam I Am]

Can we create a forum where people I don't like can ONLY post in there? Or hell, just straight ban them because they suck anyway. :laugh2:

[bbgun]

We can't even read the DZ articles in full, so why put them on the front page?