ESPN Dallas: Todd Archer's practice observations

[WoodysGirl]

Aug 1
6:47
PM CT

By Todd Archer

SAN ANTONIO -- ** In the morning workout, backup C Bill Nagy (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14096/bill-nagy) and QB Jon Kitna (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/1383/jon-kitna) worked on the snap exchange after they had some issues Sunday. They did not appear to have any problems Monday. Phil Costa (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13552/phil-costa) had a high shotgun snap to Tony Romo (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5209/tony-romo) that disrupted the timing on a handoff.

** How strong is OT Tyron Smith’s punch? During individual drills with fellow offensive lineman, he was able to knock a spinning Nagy off balance.

** New coordinator Rob Ryan must love what he is getting from DeMarcus Ware (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8426/demarcus-ware) and Jay Ratliff (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8638/jay-ratliff). They have been disruptive every day. Ware forced a Romo throwaway and also chewed up a reverse to WR Manny Johnson. Ratliff thwarted a run by RB Felix Jones (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11256/felix-jones) after bullying Costa into the backfield at the snap. Later, a Ratliff pressure led to a Ware interception.

Read the rest: http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4681218/todd-archers-practice-observations-5

[realtick]

If you read through the training camp chats, Archer has repeatedly said that AOA looks really bad in both scrimmages and one-on-ones.

Just passing the info along...

[Muhast]

If you read through the training camp chats, Archer has repeatedly said that AOA looks really bad in both scrimmages and one-on-ones.

Just passing the info along...

It's conflicted tho bc vela said a.o.a looked good and Dallas may only need to find one safety

[ddh33]

It's been fairly unanimous that Barry Church has been the best safety in camp. Take that for what you will.

[Hoofbite]

If you read through the training camp chats, Archer has repeatedly said that AOA looks really bad in both scrimmages and one-on-ones.

Just passing the info along...

Someone posted the other day that AOA looked completely lost in a 1-on-1 drill.

[Clove]

Maybe we'll finally get that consistent pressure from Ware I've been preaching. I can't wait.

[cbow44]

If you read through the training camp chats, Archer has repeatedly said that AOA looks really bad in both scrimmages and one-on-ones.

Just passing the info along...

I havent read that, thought I had read everyones. repeatedly?

[realtick]

I havent read that, thought I had read everyones. repeatedly?

If you go through the chat logs the past few days, including today, he mentions it a few times.

Take it FWIW.

[TheCount]

Great news on Brent, I'm actually excited to see him play.

[RS12]

** Second-year NT Josh Brent was able to beat Nagy off the snap to get to Kitna before the quarterback could even hand the ball off. Brent has had a solid start to camp.


Sorely needed.

[speedkilz88]

Someone posted the other day that AOA looked completely lost in a 1-on-1 drill.1-1 drills? Does that even make sense to you?

[Hoofbite]

1-1 drills? Does that even make sense to you?

espn_macmahon: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah looks lost and it's 1-on-1s. Got totally turned around on seam route by Marty B. Burned by 5 yards for TD.

Found it.

[Muhast]

Anybody find it odd we havn't heard a single comment about John Phillips?

I've heard a ton about Bennett. I've even heard about Rucker. Not a single mention of Phillips.

[RS12]

Anybody find it odd we havn't heard a single comment about John Phillips?

I've heard a ton about Bennett. I've even heard about Rucker. Not a single mention of Phillips.

Dont remember where I read it but supposedly he is much better at moving opponents from out of the backfield than Gronk or Chappas. Basically a beast as a blocker.

[WoodysGirl]

Anybody find it odd we havn't heard a single comment about John Phillips?

I've heard a ton about Bennett. I've even heard about Rucker. Not a single mention of Phillips.
I don't know. I read alot about Phillips in the chats. Everybody asks about him in the chats and they respond.

He seems to be having a solid camp.

Bennett's the #2 TE, tho per the chats.

[speedkilz88]

Found it.That's just crap from Timmy. Getting beat in 1-1 drills is a common thing in practice. Getting lost in coverage is suppose to be about team defense and not knowing where you are suppose to be.

[Muhast]

I don't know. I read alot about Phillips in the chats. Everybody asks about him in the chats and they respond.

He seems to be having a solid camp.

Bennett's the #2 TE, tho per the chats.


They must just be in the chats and not in the articles then.

That explains it. I was worried maybe he wasn't full speed yet.

Thanks Woody and RS12

[Muhast]

That's just crap from Timmy. Getting beat in 1-1 drills is a common thing in practice. Getting lost in coverage is suppose to be about team defense and not knowing where you are suppose to be.


The offense is going to win on a 1-1 drill the large majority of the time. You are all alone, they know the play and you don't. It's much harder then you'd think.

It is pretty common to get turned around on a double move. Or he could have guessed and that'd be another reason why he turned around.

Eitherway, that doesn't really bother me. It's the team drills that would be more of a concern.

Vela says AOA is doing well, and Dallas only needs to find 1 safety, not two.

So who knows who is actually right.

I always consider MacMahon and Calvin especially to be dumb. I take what they say with a grain of salt.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's just crap from Timmy. Getting beat in 1-1 drills is a common thing in practice. Getting lost in coverage is suppose to be about team defense and not knowing where you are suppose to be.

Its not complete crap. AOA takes bad steps. You know this because the coaches have had AOA take additional reps in practice over said steps. Broaddus talked about how AOA should never get turned around like that on a double move to the vertical or something along those lines.

The thing is though is McMahon does not know what the hell he is talking about. He had some hyperbole today like AOA would be a significant downgrade from Alan Ball. Thats just stupid.

What he has not said is how the coaches give AOA extra work, or that he has been in position a few times to make plays on the ball. In the first practice video you can see him charge the sideline from the hash and almost comeaway with the pic and causing the incompletion. He has shown that he will come up and be physical in run support which was a major question mark and lets just say Alan Ball could not do it.

Vela who does know what the hell he is talking about describes AOA as 'always showing up around the ball,' how he wants to "see more of him" and that we might need to only export one safety and not 2.

I allowed ******* McMahon damper my enthusiasm but then I read Vela and what i saw when I was at camp. Who are you going to believe? Vela or McMahon?

[Muhast]

Its not complete crap. AOA takes bad steps. You know this because the coaches have had AOA take additional reps in practice over said steps. Broaddus talked about how AOA should never get turned around like that on a double move to the vertical or something along those lines.

The thing is though is McMahon does not know what the hell he is talking about. He had some hyperbole today like AOA would be a significant downgrade from Alan Ball. Thats just stupid.

What he has not said is how the coaches give AOA extra work, or that he has been in position a few times to make plays on the ball. In the first practice video you can see him charge the sideline from the hash and almost comeaway with the pic and causing the incompletion. He has shown that he will come up and be physical in run support which was a major question mark and lets just say Alan Ball could not do it.

Vela who does know what the hell he is talking about describes AOA as 'always showing up around the ball,' how he wants to "see more of him" and that we might need to only export one safety and not 2.

I allowed ******* McMahon damper my enthusiasm but then I read Vela and what i saw when I was at camp. Who are you going to believe? Vela or McMahon?

I agree 100% with this.:D

[ThreeSportStar80]

AOA isn't ready.... :laugh2:

[UnoDallas]

I have seen a lot of Mc Cray playing Saftey

don't know if that means something or not

Do like this


Second-year NT Josh Brent (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13923/josh-brent) was able to beat Nagy off the snap to get to Kitna before the quarterback could even hand the ball off. Brent has had a solid start to camp

He may have a difficult time making the team given the recent signings, but DE Sean Lissemore (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13406/sean-lissemore) did a nice job disengaging from Tyron Smith (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13978/tyron-smith) to stop Jones for no gain.

After Tanner stuck his foot in the ground and turned upfield on a run to the right

have to get Tanners number so I can watch him

can you say bye bye Choice

[realtick]

Its not complete crap. AOA takes bad steps. You know this because the coaches have had AOA take additional reps in practice over said steps. Broaddus talked about how AOA should never get turned around like that on a double move to the vertical or something along those lines.

The thing is though is McMahon does not know what the hell he is talking about. He had some hyperbole today like AOA would be a significant downgrade from Alan Ball. Thats just stupid.

What he has not said is how the coaches give AOA extra work, or that he has been in position a few times to make plays on the ball. In the first practice video you can see him charge the sideline from the hash and almost comeaway with the pic and causing the incompletion. He has shown that he will come up and be physical in run support which was a major question mark and lets just say Alan Ball could not do it.

Vela who does know what the hell he is talking about describes AOA as 'always showing up around the ball,' how he wants to "see more of him" and that we might need to only export one safety and not 2.

I allowed ******* McMahon damper my enthusiasm but then I read Vela and what i saw when I was at camp. Who are you going to believe? Vela or McMahon?

The short answer is you're gonna believe who you want to believe based on what you want to happen.

Question, how has AOA shown that he will come up and be physical? Have they been tackling in the practices that are available for the public to see?

[speedkilz88]

I have seen a lot of Mc Cray playing Saftey

don't know if that means something or not

Do like this


Second-year NT Josh Brent (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13923/josh-brent) was able to beat Nagy off the snap to get to Kitna before the quarterback could even hand the ball off. Brent has had a solid start to camp

He may have a difficult time making the team given the recent signings, but DE Sean Lissemore (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13406/sean-lissemore) did a nice job disengaging from Tyron Smith (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13978/tyron-smith) to stop Jones for no gain.

After Tanner stuck his foot in the ground and turned upfield on a run to the right

have to get Tanners number so I can watch him

can you say bye bye ChoiceI feel safe saying McCray will never be a starter at safety unless the rest are decimated by injuries which if that happens we're in big trouble. Guy is strictly a STs ace. Slow as molasses.

[UnoDallas]

I feel safe saying McCray will never be a starter at safety unless the rest are decimated by injuries which if that happens we're in big trouble. Guy is strictly a STs ace. Slow as molasses.

alrigthty then

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have seen a lot of Mc Cray playing Saftey

don't know if that means something or not

Do like this


Second-year NT Josh Brent (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13923/josh-brent) was able to beat Nagy off the snap to get to Kitna before the quarterback could even hand the ball off. Brent has had a solid start to camp

He may have a difficult time making the team given the recent signings, but DE Sean Lissemore (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13406/sean-lissemore) did a nice job disengaging from Tyron Smith (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13978/tyron-smith) to stop Jones for no gain.

After Tanner stuck his foot in the ground and turned upfield on a run to the right

have to get Tanners number so I can watch him

can you say bye bye Choice

there are only 4 safeties on the roster. mccray only gets maybe 1/4 of the snaps if that.

[lookoutblock]

Smith is gonna be a good for a long time.